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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING-AUGUST 18,1981
AGENDA
1- Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4. Public Hearing/1981-4 (Potowatomi Street Extension)
5. Discussion Items
a. Award Contract/1981-2 (Smith's Addition)
b. Approve Streets - Andover West
c. Approve Streets - Birchwood Pond
d. Rezoning - Rademacher
e. Preliminary Plat - Creekside
f. Cost Estimate - Plans/Specifications-Boat Landing
g. Sketch Plan - R. Hand
h. Cedar Crest Lots-Hearing Date
i. Set Hearing Date/1981-1, 1981-2
j. Community Development Grant Project
k. HUD Grant Resolution
l.
6. Non-Discussion Items
a. Summer School Program-N.Hagman
b. Ordinance No. 8 Amendment-Mixed Uses
7. Reports of Commissions, Committees, Staff
8. Approval of Minutes
9. Approval of Claims
10. Adjournment
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 18, 1981
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Month1y Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschit, on August 18, 1981" 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Lachinski, Ortte1, Peach
Councilman absent: Jacobson
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; TKDA Engineer, Mark
Schumacher; City Staff Engineer, Larry Winner; City
Clerk, P. K. Lindquist; and others
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, to approve the Agenda as published with the
following additions: 51, Condemnation Appea1-Vosika; 5m, Resolutions/Trunk Charges;
6c, Meeting Date/1980-3; and 5n, Solid Waste. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, to suspend the rules. Motion carried
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unanlmous 1y.
PUBLIC HEARING - 1981-4/POTOWATOMI STREET EXTENSION
Pursuant to notice published thereof, a Public Hearing on the 1981-4 Street Project in
the are a north of Stenquist Addition was called to order by Mayor Windschit1 at 7:32
p.m. Mr. Schumacher reviewed the August 5, 1981 , feasibility report of the location,
initiation, the proposed street and drainage improvements, and the estimated cost of
each of the alternatives. Testimony was then opened for public testimony.
Gladys Ransom, 4640 165th - asked if soil samples were taken in the low area for the
proposal to extend Potowatomi north from 163rd to Seventh Avenue. She complained
that since Seventh Avenue was raised, the drainage comes to her property; and she even
had to hire a lawyer to get the County to fix the road. (Mr. Schumacher stated they
took soundings in the known low area between 162nd and 163rd in the easement area for
Potowatomi Extension but not on her property where the alternative for Potowatomi
extension is shown.)
Ms. Ransom - stated that there is a great deal of black peat in the swamp on her
property, which she felt was not adequately addressed for that alternative. If that
alternative was chosen, she wanted to be sure that the actual costs would not greatly
overrun the estimated costs. She felt those estimates should be based on soundings taken
in that swamp as well because there is peat there. She stated she owns Lot 3 in Castner's
Addition, and related the problems she has with fencing, etc., because of the low area
in the middle of her lot. That area was a drainage for all the farmers in the area in
which clay tiles were placed.
Fred Hamacher, 4755 162nd Lane - stated his lot would be receiving the largest assessment
on the south side of 163rd, which is his back lot, with the least amount of benefit.
He stated that the area in his back lot is the low spot, and the area goes uphill from
there into the Castner Addition. He took exception with the engineer's calculation of
raising the pond one/tenth of a foot when the road is constructed, because the part of
the pond that goes to the north is low, and the water raises to a depth of six or seven
feet deep in the spring. In his opinion, the construction of 163rd through there would
make his lot unbuildable. He also took issue with 290 assessable feet when he owns only
165 feet, as there is no easement on the other 165 feet. He agreed that it would cost
the $18,000 estimated for tree removal through the area, although it may not be a very good
use of money. He felt it made sense to run Potowatomi north from 163rd to Seventh Avenue,
but didn't understand why 163rd should also be run east to Makah as well. (Mr.
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Schumacher explained that unless 163rd was run out to Makah, it would create a long
deadend street, which he could not recommend to the Counci 1; a-lthough that could be
considered as another alternative.)
Mr. Hamacher - stated the comment was made that there would be a lot of tree removal
for 163rd and the extension of potowatomi between 162nd and 163rd; however, the
alignment could be changed for Potow~omi extension north of 163rd because of trees.
He asked why there would be a difference. (Mr. Schumacher explained that in the first
case the City is working within an existing easement alignment; whereas in the second
case no street alignment presently exists and there would be the flexibility of making
the alignment fit with the terrain.)
Mr. Hamacher - asked if 163rd is constructed, where would a house be constructed on 163rd,
his concern being the use of the land in the Castner Addition area after these streets
are constructed and possible future requests for additional roads through that area.
(Oiscussion was that the lot could be split; but development of the lots within Castner's
Addition is at the discretion of the property owners. One option would be for all owners
within the Castner's Addition to jointly rep1at that area.)
Mr. Hamacher - asked what would happen if his back lot becomes unbui1dab1e because of
the water problem if 163rd is constructed. (Discussion noted that the City cannot do
something to his property that would render it unbuildab1e. If it got to that point,
the engineers would have to make a hydrological determination of what effect it would
have on that lot.)
Robert Fodness, 4613 162nd Lane - stated at a previous meeting he made a statement that
he had an agreement with Mr. Shaffer, owner of an adjacent lot, to purchase the lot.
He asked to go on record that at that time he thought that there was such an agreement,
understanding that if they could agree on a price that he would purchase the lot and
Mr. Shaffer would no longer be in favor of the project. Apparently there was a mis-
understanding, and Mr. Shaffer attended a subsequent meeting and made him appear as a
liar. He wanted it clarified that Mr. Shaffer had agreed to sell the lot but had then
apparently changed his mind. Since that time, Mr. Shaffer had agreed to sell the lot again;
however, Mr. Fodness stated he is not in agreement with the selling price. He stated
he is opposed to the streets, noting that the lot his home is on is the back lot. He
has given a 33-foot easement across the front lot; his home and garage face south; he
was forced to build 50 feet back onto that lot; and he has not even been able to obtain
a building permit to build a garage on the first lot. If 163rd is constructed, it would
be totally unusable to him and of no benefit, and felt he could legally justify that
position if he had to. If the City would be willing to permit the construction of a house
behind his, he would be willing to consider paying an assessment for 163rd. He didn't
feel he would have a water problem unless 163rd went through to Makah, which might create
a problem in the low portion of his lot. Also, if his information is correct, it would
be extremely difficult to purchase the right of way through Tract R to extend 163rd to
Makah, which could conceivably mean condemnation and the costs involved. He stated he
has no intention of paying the assessment. He felt it would have to be proved that
there is a benefit to him, and he alleged there is none.
Ralph Shaffer, 4644 163rd Lane - refuted that any a11egiations were made as to Mr. Fodness
being a 11arer, explaining that Mr. Fodness did want to purchase the lot but no price was
set. He stated that the one hole on Potow&ümi extension can be walked through, and that
there are very few trees but mostly brush to be removed, feeling there would be no
problem getting rid of the trees considering the fuel problem. He felt the best and least
costly alternative would be the extension of 163rd east. (Mr. Schumacher stated tree
removal was not shown for the section of Potowatomi between 162nd and 163rd, but mostly
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brush. He took issue that one can walk through that area, as the soil soundings
indicated a peat depth of up to 12 feet, which would have to be removed and replaced
with fill material before a road could be constructed.)
Ms. Ransom - asked how much she would be assessed. She is in favor of the project if
lt lS not going to cost her a fortune. She stated she does not want to plat her land
but rather to sell off the front portion and construct a house on the back portion.
She again stated that the middle of her property is very swampy, questioning how that
would affect the cost of the road, and questioning how much of her land would be needed
for easement if Potowatomi was extended north from 163rd. She also related the events
of her granting easements along the north and south portions of her property. (If
the road came from Seventh Avenue down to 163rd, Ms. Ransom's assessment would consist
of a front-foot assessment against any property that would be buildable, making a
determination of how many lots could be derived from her parcel, estimating it would be
approximately $20 a running foot. In further discussion with Ms. Ransom, Council noted
that that particular alternative was considered at her suggestion, and if she is
opposed to the assessment, the alternative probably would not be considered.)
Jerry Ostapiuk, 8866 Central Boulevard - one of three owners of Lots 1 and 2 in
Castner's Addltion - stated he did not know whether he would be in favor of such a
large assessment for the extension of Potowatomi north of 163rd, as he would have to
determine how the area could be divided.
Ashley Brooks, 16221 Potowatomi - owns the two lots east of the proposed Potowatomi
extenslon - is definitely opposed to the proposals, feeling it does not benefit him.
Since the City is going to 2~-acre lots in the rural area, he'd like to keep his 2~
acres even though it is two lots combined. He doesn't want to sell off the back lot,
but felt he would have to if he had a $10,000 assessment against it. He also felt it
would detract from his present homesite. With all the people against it and with what
will be gained by putting Potowatomi and 163rd through, he felt the people in Castner's
Addition would be better off to privately put a road in about half way and put a cu1 de sal
on Lots 1 and 2, then coming back out to Seventh Avenue, not ever coming close to 163rd.
Only one lot would be gaining by extending Potowatomi from Seventh to 163rd and 163rd east
Mike Shaffer, 11910 Xeon Street - was planning to purchase the lot (south of 163rd)
from hlS fater, bUlldlng a house, and living there. He had received an independent
contractor's cost for constructing the road, which came to considerably less than the
City's estimates. To go out through the RLS property to the east would be a lot cheaper.
He felt another exit out of Stenquist Addition is needed, and that Mr. Fodness would
be able to build on the front lot. And the other owners of the lots adjacent to 163rd
easement would also become buildable once that road is constructed, whereas they are
not buildable lots now. (Discussion was that it could be cheaper if right of way through
Tract R could be acquired at a reasonable cost, discussing the estimated costs with Mr.
Shaffer, noting the reasons the City's costs are higher are because of the legal,
engineering and administrative costs necessary when a City does a project.)
Mr. R. Shaffer - asked why 163rd couldn't be placed further north to bypass all swamps,
etc., and then go out to Makah. (Discussion was that that would be creating smaller
lots south of the street, that the City does not have easement in that location, and
that would still not provide access to his lot which is located south of the existing
163rd easement.)
Council discussion with the residents present noted that the key to the entire question
is what the.owners in Castner's Addition want to do with their land, that it may be more
practical to them to have a road constructed through the center portion of their lots
to enable the development of more buildable lots, that that would not address access to
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end to gain access or to provide a cu1 de sac to that lot. That option may be possible
with a rep1atting of Castner's Addition. When the Mayor asked those who own the front
and back lots along 162nd and 163rd whether they intended those back lots to remain
unbui1dab1e, to have them combined and treated as one lot, and to have the City then
vacate the right of way on 163rd, a number of people said "yes" and no one opposed.
Ms. Ransom - stated when she provided the easement for 163rd seven years ago, she was
told the road would be built within a year so she could build on her back 6~ acres.
She stated she is 61 years old now, asking if the Council thought she wants to go into
debt to build on the back 6~ acres now. But she does want to help out the neighbors.
Mr. R. Shaffer - asked what happens three, four, or five years from now. He felt the
road has to go in, and it is less costly to do it now. (Discussion was that if it is
not needed to service any lots, it would not be necessary. The owner of Lot 4 in
Castner's Addition, nor any representative, was present.)
Mary Joworsky - one of the three owners of Lots 1 and 2 in Castner's Addition - with
the road through the back, they can simply split their lots without any additional
costs. Right now they would have to go through the platting procedure which is a
larger expense. (Discussion was that lot splits could be done with the construction
of a cu1 de sac as well and that the lot split ordinance allows the splitting of one lot
every three years without going through the platting procedure.)
Ms. JOwOrSk{ - stated in the future they are planning to do something with the land,
that it wi1 not remain ten acres. They had not given any consideration to the con-
struction of Potow~omi between 163rd and Seventh Avenue and had not determined the
amount of land it would take and how many lots would be available. Ms. Joworsky also
asked how the assessment is determined on corner lots, asking who picks up the costs
not charged back to the portion of the corner lot. (Discussion was that the total cost
is divided by the assessable footage, which has the effect of increasing everyone's
front foot assessment, which Ms. Joworsky felt was not proper and questioned the legality
of doing it in that way. Council discussion with Ms. Joworsky was on the assessment
policy and the reasons for doing it that way.)·
Further discussion was on sorting out facts and opinions brought out this evening and
what course of action to take. It appears that from the Stenquist area, Mr. Shaffer is
the only one who wants the road constructed; that the best solution may be to have Mr.
Shaffer and the property owners in Castner's Addition work out a solution and present it
to the Council; and that rep1atting the Castner Addition property and constructing the
roads themselves may be the most cost effective. Discussion with some members of the
audience was on possible alternatives to the placement of the roads through that area
for the most efficient use of the land. Council also noted that the 163rd easement could
be vacated, but it won't be done as long as there is the potential of serving lots in
there at a later time. Other discussion was that Mr. Shaffer is allowed access to his
lot via the easements of Potowatomi extension and 163rd; some on the Council feeling
$41 per front foot is too costly; and that the taxes on Mr. Shaffer's lot should be on
an unbui1dable lot at this time. The Attorney advised that just because the City has a
road easement, it doesn't mean it has an obligation to open up and improve the roadways
unless building is allowed back there.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, that we continue the public hearing on the
1981-4 Potowatomi Street Extension Project to the next regularly scheduled Counci 1
meeting. Motion carried unanimously. Mayor Windschitl stated at the next meeting the
Council is looking for any new proposals for road alignment through the various
properties in Castner's Addition; after which the Council will make a decision on the
project.
The Public Hearing was continued to the September 1, 1981, meeting. 8:55 p.m.
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AWARD CONTRACT/1981-2 (Smith's Addition Area)
Mr. Winner reviewed his August 17, 1981, memo on the bids received and recommendation
for the awarding of the contractor for the project. There is one correction on the
memo, in that the low bid of Northern Asphalt on Project 2A should read $59,629.39.
He recommended awarding the contract to the low bidders in each project, noting that
Northern Asphalt indicated they would sub their part of the work to N.D.H., which would
mean the City would then be working with only two general contractors on this project.
The assessment rate for 146th from Evergreen to Prairie Road would be $2,352 per lot
rather than the $1,932 given at the public hearing, the increase being the result of
additional Class 5 needed on the roadbed; and a rate of $3,532 per lot for the re-
mainder of the project rather than the $4,066 given at the public hearing, those
calculations not including capitalized interest.
A1 Smith, 254 150th - stated he was not able to see the drainage plans because the
englneer was not at the public hearing. (Council noted he would be able to see the
plans and specifications during the recess if he desired.)
Art Korbel, 14801 Butternut Street - asked if the streets involved in the estimates are
146th, Evergreen, Butternut, and 150th, and nothing to do with University Avenue.
(Correct. It was noted that these are the best estimtes at this time, though there
may be some increases in costs if quantities chang~etc.)
Rögêr Dahl, 15003 Butternut - asked if the actual assessment will not be made until next
year because the work will not be completed. (Discussion was that the City has the
ability to assess prior to the completion of the work; that it would be to the benefit
of the homeowners to assess it this year to avoid the year's capitalized interest on
the proj ect. It would be assessed based on the engineer's best estimate at the time
of the hearing.)
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, entering a Resolution accepting bids and
awardlng contract:, for the improvement of bituminous streets for 146th Lane, 150th
Lane, Evergreen Street and Butternut Street east of Prairie Road in the south half of
Section 24-32-24 and the north half of Section 25-32-24, as presented by the City Clerk;
acknowledging that contract be awarded to Northern Asphalt Construction in the amount
of $59,629.39 for 1981-2A; to N.D.H., Inc., in the amount of $66,949.40 for 1981-2B,
and Forest Lake Contracting in the amount of $10,087.25 for 1981-2C according to the
plans and specifications approved by the City Council. (See Resolution R62-81) Motion
carried unanimously.
Recess at 9:08; reconvene at 9:20 p.m.
1981-2/UNIVERSITY AVENUE IMPROVEMENT
Mayor Windschit1 explained that the Council has received the petition to include
University Avenue Extension with the 1981-2 project, but explained the process required
of the City to include it, making it doubtful that it could be done with the project yet
this year. Mr. Hawkins explained that the process could be moved along if a 100-percent
petition were received waiving the public hearing process, and explained the procedure
by which the Cities of Ham Lake and Andover would enter into a joint powers agreement to
have Andover do the work with Ham Lake reimbursing the City of Andover. The problem
is getting both petitions in, getting both city councils to act, drafting the joint
powers agreement, etc. Also, the City is restricted by the amount of money it can
borrow through private placement within any 90-day period. It was agreed that the item
will be placed on the next Council Meeting Agedda (September 1, 1981) at which time
the petition can be validated.
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APPROVE STREETS - ANDOVER WEST
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we accept the streets for maintenance purposes
in Andover West Addition and refund the security deposit for construction guarantees.
Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE STREETS - BIRCHWOOD POND
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we accept the streets in Birchwood Pond
Addition for maintenance purposes and refund the security deposit for construction.
Motion carried unanimously.
REZONING - RADEMACHER
Planning and Zoning Chairman d'Arcy Bosel1 reviewed the Commission's August 12, 1981,
memo recommending the Council approve the Rademacher rezoning.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that the Andover City Council rezone the
property known as Lot 1, Block 1 and Lots 1, 2, and 3, Block 2 of the Andover Community
Shopping Center from Neighborhood Business to Shopping Center pursuant to Ordinance 8,
Section 5.02, Ordinance 8G, 5.02, noting that a public hearing was held and there was
no opposition stated; it is also noted that it has always been the intent and plan of
the owner to develop this property to serve the community as a neighborhood business
with no sewer being available; since that time the sewer has been placed to serve the
property and the logical use of that property would be for Shopping Center. (See
Resolution R63-81) Motion carried unanimously.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - CREEKSIDE
Chairman Bose1l reviewed the Commission's August 12, 1981, memo recommending the
Council approve the preliminary plat, noting the reasons for approval and recommended
variances. She has since reviewed the plat and the contingencies of Items band c
have been taken care of. She also noted there was considerable input from the neighbors
concerning the sizes of the lots. They also considered street alignment; and though
it isn't the most efficient traffic flow, the Commission recommended approval.
Council discussion was that it is intended that Crocus would come back around to 138th.
Jim Green - explained that Crocus Street goes down past the property line of Mr. Robinson;
and when he sold the 100 feet to the City, the eastern boundary of that parcel was
determined to be the center of Crocus Street, sold with the intent that it would be
City street. Attorney Hawkins stated there would be no difficulty getting the City's
half of that street incorporated into the system if the City has fee ownership of that
property.
Discussion was also on the procedure Mr. Green would follow pursuant to the ordinance
for filing the final in stages, as Mr. Green stated it is his intent to present the
final plan in two stages.
Discussion was on the park dedication with Park Board Chairman, Bill LeFebvre, stating
it is the Park Board's intent to accept cash in lieu of land, feeling that the three
parks within the area would provide sufficient parkland for this subdivision as well,
and not wanting to create another small park in the area. The intent would be to use
the cash dedication to improve the other parks in the area. Mr. Green clarified that the
park dedication is for the development excluding his homestead lot. He understood the
plat is approximately 13 acres valued at $5,000 an acre with park fees based on 10
percent of that value, equalling a $6,500 park dedication fee. Mr. Hawkins stated the
reason for excluding the homestead is that Mr. Green is not required to include that
parcel in the plat but is doing so to simplify a rather lengthy metes and bounds legal
description.
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Bill Siron~ 2635 138th Avenue - is opposed to the preliminary plat feeling that the
area has tra fie problems and nothing is being done about those problems. No outlet
is even provided. Also, it is smaller lots, so not only is traffic added, but the
problem is compounded by going with a denser development. He also wondered about
approving plats with variances within them to begin with. On the corner lot, Lot 10,
it was stated at the Planning meeting that Mr. Green has no intention of building a
house on that lot. By approving this, he asked what is done when Mr. Green requests a
rezoning on that lot. This is residenti,a1, and he felt it was obvious Mr. Green has
other designs on that property.
Mr. Green - Lot 10 was not originally shown on the preliminary plat, but was added after
he was told to do so by the P & Z to include all contiguous property. A proposed
building is now shown because when meeting with the Engineer, he didn't know where a
building would be built; and the ordinance requires showing a building site only on those
lots where a building is proposed. He stated he does not have other plans for that
particular parcel at this time, but he really doesn't know how that lot is going to be
used. He has no plans to rep1at that lot in the future; but he doesn't know the highest
and best use of that lot at this time.
Council discussion was then on the question of the frontage road and the necessity for
a variance on Lot 1, Block 2, noting that it is a matter of interpretation whether the
lot is fronting on a county road or facing the frontage road, with Mr. Winner
interpreting the frontage road to be a part of the County Road 18 right of way. It
was felt that the service road easement must be dedicated to the City at the time the
final plat is filed.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Lachinski, that we direct the Clerk to prepare a Resolution
approving the Preliminary Plat of Creekside and note the Planning and Zoning Commission's
reasons for approval, and note that there will be variances required for Lot 11, Block 2,
which is a double-frontage lot, and a variance for Lot 10, Block 2, which fronts on
a County Road, and Variance for Lots 10 and 11, Block 2, which are more than twice the
average lot size of 25,130 square feet; and note that a requirement of dedication of
right of way for the service road on the west side of County Road 18 in front of lots 1
and 2 in Block 2. (See Resolution R64-81) Motion carried unanimously.
COST ESTIMATE - PLANS/SPECIFICATIONS ~ BOAT LANDING
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that the Consulting Engineers of Bonestroo,
Rosene, and Ander1ik be appointed to do the engineering for the Boat Landing project
at a cost not to exceed $1,350. Motion carried unanimously.
SKETCH PLAN - R. HAND
Dick Hand, 3775 217th Avenue NW, developer, and Toni Emmerich, 2579 South Coon Creek
Drlve, archltect - were present asking several questlons as to the concept, trafflc
flow, park dedication, sanitary sewer installation, and staged development of property
west of Underc1ift and north of Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Some discussion points were Mr. Hand has not yet talked with Good Value Homes, the
property owners to the north, as to how this development would relate to their proposals,
but he intends to do so. Council noted a contiguous street pattern must be developed.
No parkland is shown, but he felt there would be no problem providing some. Discussion
was on the contour levels, what would determine the 100-year flood plain in this area,
noting that development would have to comply with the Flood Plain Ordinance regulations.
Council guessed that the traffic generated by the proposed development would be of
concern to the neighbors in the area, questioning if there is any way traffic from the
proposed development could be brought out to Highway 116 to eliminate that problem.
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Mr. Hand stated the sanitary sewer at Underc1ift is at 864.5 feet; and by extending that
past the ponds, it would be coming out of the ground. Discussion was on several
alternatives for servicing this property, including adding a lift station or by being
serviced from the property to the north. Council indicated a lift station would not
be desirable; questioned whether or not this area is included in the CAB Interceptor
area; discussed the use of a larger line through the Good Value property; generally
feeling the item is an engineering question to be resolved by them. If the area cannot
be served, it wouldn't be assessed for sanitary sewer.
Discussion also noted that water is west of Round Lake Boulevard, and that the availability
of the existing facilities is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Also, it is possible
to develop the property in stages pursuant to ordinance requirements. It was fe 1t
that the engineers would need to make a determination as to whether or not the developer
would be allowed to dig the peat out of the ponds and use it around the proposed
structures.
CEDAR CREST LOTS, 1981-1, 1981-2, and 1980-3 - HEARING DATES
It was determined that $15,522 is needed over what was originally assessed in the
project; that there are 7 lots from the Aztec area that were not assessed for their
street but may be assessed some indirect benefit for the bituminous improvement in the
Cedar Crest area; that of the 16 lots on 174th that have been referred to as "unbui1dable",
3 are owned by adjacent property owners, 2 adjoining lots were recently purchased by
one person and could become buildable if a variance were granted, and 11 remaining
with some of them owned by the State as a result of tax forfeiture.
Discussion was on the most equitable assessment for those lots. Attorney Hawkins stated
,that the three lots owned by adjacent property owners are bui1dab1e to the pOint of them
being used for garages, septic systems, etc., which could justify a full assessment
against them. Council also felt that the two adjoining lots recently purchased could
potentially become a buildable lot and should receive a full assessment as well.
Attorney Hawkins advised that if the remaining "unbui1dable" lots are not assessed now
but are subsequently sold, they cannot be assessed at a later time. If it is assessed
now but it is not paid, there may be a basis for collecting the assessment at a later
date.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, that we change the Public Hearing for the
Southwest Project Improvement Hearing from September 10 to September 24 for the
purposes of assessing the project; and also set the date of the 29th of September for
an assessment hearing for the White Oaks Area Street Improvement project, the Smith's
Rolling Oaks Street Improvement project, and the assessment hearing for the Cedar Crest
Street Improvement project. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Peach, that the Cedar Crest lots that have not been
assessed be assessed as follows: that the 7 lots on Aztec Street be assessed at $500
each for a total of $3,500; and that the lots that are buildable or are in common
ownership on 174th will be assessed their actual footage; and the remaining unbui1dab1e
lots be assessed at a rate determined by dividing $3,522 divided by the remaining 11
unbui1dab1e lots (approximately $320 each). Motion carried unanimously.
SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAM - N. HAGEMAN
Nancy Hageman, Community School Coordinator, presented the Council with copies of the
participation in the Summer School Program, noting the enrollment was somewhat lower than
the previous year, but attributed most of that to the fact that summer school enrollment
was very high in the District this year. She also noted that adding softball to the
program brought increased participation and felt it was a good addition.
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(Summer School Program - N. Hageman, Continued)
Ms. Hageman also presented copies of the proposed 1981-82 Community School budget,
noting she will be reviewing these figures with the Park Board as well. The total
budget is approximately 12 percent more than this last year for a total proposed
budget of $23,177, but the summer program is up only $55 over this summer.
CONDEMNATION APPEAL - VOSIKA
Mr. Hawkins reviewed his July 28, 1981, letter, noting the proposal to settle the
matter for $860. He thought the jury trial was set for sometime in November. He
stated he doesn't like to settle for more than what the Commissioners awarded, but
realistically it would be more economical to settle rather than go through a jury trial.
Council discussion was on the fear that agreeing to a settlement may be setting a
precedent in simi1iar right-of-way negotiations in the future; but that the settlement
would be paid for by State Aid, whereas the cost of the trial would come from General
Funds. A suggestion was also made that the Council consider some assessment for a
State Aid road which opens up landlocked property.
MOTION by Lachi nsk i, Seconded by Ortte 1, that we authori ze payment of $860 to Mr. Vosi ka
for Parcel Number 4 for property on the Hanson Boulevard Extension project for a total
reimbursement to Mr. Vosika of $2,000 for his property.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Lachinski, Ortte1, Peach; NO-Windschit1
Motion carried.
SOLID WASTE HEARING
Discussion noted that the MPCA's position is the Andover/Coon Rapids site would be
suitable for a demolition site only, questioning the position the City should take
on that proposal. It was also brought out that County officials have indicated to the
City_ that if this site is not accepted, another site in Andover could be chosen for
a landfill, with the Council questioning whether other sites could now be brought into
the hearing process at this point since the required five sites have already been
chosen by the County. Mr. Schumacher explained that the County is recommending the
Andover/Coon Rapids site be certified for both a sanitary and demolition landfill, and
he suggested the City support the PCA position for demolition site only as the lesser
of two evils, so to speak. Apparently the County is also planning to submit new in-
formation at the public hearing tomorrow offering reasons why a sanitary landfill could
be located at that site, and at this point the City has no idea what that information
is going to be. The Clerk also reported she has been told by County officials that
the County is looking toward the future when the site could be used for recreational
activities, ski hill, generating monies for the City and County when the landfill would
be terminated.
Discussion was on speculations as to why the County is pushing for the landfill at
the Andover/Coon Rapids site, questioning the validity of the public hearing process if
the status of the sites can be changed at this point in the selection process;
objecting to the site because of the water table problem and because it is "main street"
Andover with the City attempting to clean up the visually blighted area there; and
questioning the environmental impact of a demolition landfill.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that the Council direct the Engineering firm to
present the position at the Public Hearing on Waste Disppsal Sites that we are in
opposition to a sanitary landfill being conducted at the Bunker Prairie site due to the
water table conditions, etc., as outlined in the PCA report. Motion carried unanimously.
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August 18, 1981 - Minutes
Page 10
(Solid Waste Hearing, Continued)
Discussion was then on the proposal of a demolition landfill on the site. Council
was generally opposed to any type of landfill on that site because of the water table
conditions, close proximity of residents, the regional park center facilities, and
because of the existing landfill to the northeast of the area. But it was not known
by the Council what the specific environmental impact a demolition landfill would have
and on what other specific criteria it should be objected to. Because it is not known
what evidence the County will be presenting at tomorrow's hearing, it was agreed that
the City would not take a formal position on the demolition landfill proposal at this
time and to have Mr. Schumacher research the effects of this kind of landfill. The
public hearing will be held over for five days at which time the City will have an
opportunity to submit written statements. The Council can discuss the item again on
Monday, August 24.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that the remainder of the Agenda Items be
contlnued until next Monday, August 24, 7:30, and the question of the engineering for
future projects be discussed. Motion carried unanimously.
PARK COMMISSION/KELSEY PARK
There was a brief discussion with Park Commission Chairman Bill LeFebvre over what
direction the City should take on the final grant application for the proposed Kelsey
Park, the City's standings on the preliminary grant application, the specific property
considered for acquisition, questioning whether the City should proceed with the project,
and if so, who should conduct the negotiations for acquisition and fill out the final
grant application forms.
Council directed Chairman LeFebvre to ask the engineering firm of Bonestroo, Rosene,
and Ander1ik for a cost estimate for preparing the final grant application, the intent
being the Council will discuss it at the August 24 meeting. It was also suggested the
Attorney may be the one to negotiate the land acquisition.
Meeting continued to August 24, 1981. 11 :29 p.m.
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