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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP May 19, 1980 ~ 01 ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 19, 1980 MINUTES A Special Joint Meeting of the Andover City Council and the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Acting Mayor Kenneth Ortte1 on May 19, 1980, 7:35 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, for the purpose of discussing the City's Comprehensive Development Plan. Councilmen present: Lachinski, Peach Mayor Windschit1 (arrived at 8:30 p.m.) Councilman absent: Jacobson P & Z Commissioners present: Chairman Bose11, Ape1, Anstett, Kishe1, Lobb A 1 so present: City Clerk, P. K. Lindquist The Council and Planning Commission discussed various changes to the proposed Development Framework Comprehensive Plan, recommending the following changes be made: Discussion was on making a determiniation of the percentage of land remaining in the City that can potentially be developed; that this can also be graphically shown with a series of overlay maps showing agricultural, wetlands, floodplains, and peatland areas in the City (a soils limitation map is shown on Page 31 of the Inventory Update), and areas that have already been or are in the process of being developed; that the overall plan should be justifying the City's position of allowing 2~-acre lot develop- ment in the rural area. It was also suggested that ordinances be written to prohibit development in the wetland areas. Page 106, Community Facilities Issues map: Delete "in 1981" in notation on CAB interceptor. Also correct CAB sanitary sewer service area as per Council motion to be shown for that area one 40 west of Round Lake Boulevard. Also correct the SAC charge limit boundary to be verified by the Clerk. Page 43: Discussion was that this should be reworded to justify the City's position for 2~-acre lots within the rural area; that it is written assuming the rural area will eventually be sewered and the City is assuming and planning that there will not be sewer in the rural area; that the City allows 2.5 acres in developable areas because such a large portion of the City is not developable, which means that the average lot size still comes out to be a very high average per house; that the City doesn't want the 2.5 acre lot sizes to be an issue, as it considers the lot sizes an uncontested matter; that the gross lot size density in the rural area is actually 3.3 acres per homesite. It was agreed that this page should be rewritten in its entirety, putting in why the City feels 2.5 acres is adequate, having a paragraph show that when un- developable areas -- park1ands, open spaces, streets setbacks, thoroughfares, etc. -- are eliminated, the lot size equates to approximately 7 acres (make a determiniation of accurate gross density of lot sizes in the rural area); that a 2.5 minimum acre lot size would create a gross density of 111- acres. Page 46: Last paragraph, delete "while sandy soils make the installation of septic systems difficult." Suggested the first portion of that paragraph be moved to "Lot Size Issues" on page 43, as that is the reason for the 2.5-acre building sites. After ". ..peat soil s and wet 1 ands pose the most severe deve 10pment 1 imitat ions." add: "Therefore, these areas will be protected from development and would tend to increase the average lot size in the City On a gross basis." Change second sentence to: "Wetlands, other soil, slope, and water restrictive conditions are common, in- dicating a total of 50 percent (determine correct percentage) of the land is un- developable." It was also agreed that the wording in this paragraph should relate to the fact that these areas of the City will be protected and not developed. Therefore, if the City were developed in its entirety to 2.5-acre lot size, these areas having been excluded within the City, actually develop to a five-acre density, and with - Special City Council/Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 19, 1980 - Minutes Page 2 parks, streets, etc., each lot size would be closer to 6 or 7 acres. Show that the gross average lot size is more than 2.5 acres. Last paragraph, last sentence, change to read: "A benefit of the undevelopable land is that they will play an important role in maintaining the City's rural, open space character." Page 38, Environmental Protection Overlay map: Include all three overlay maps as presented as an update by the Planner. It was later suggested that transparent overlays be provided, with colored sections of the various factors, and that a transparency overlay of p1attedc: areas sbou1d be updated, including preliminary plats that are in process. Page 70: Change title to: AGRICULTURAL/VACANT/ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTED LANDS. Discussion was On whether the figures indicated in the last two paragraphs are in conflict with what is stated on page 43; questioned the accuracy of 18,862 acres of agricu1turaVvacant areas in the City; that the paragraph should make reference to the overlays; that this section should be corrected to adequately reflect the corrected graph on page 65 and the update to be done on page 43. Page 45: First paragraph: delete entirely. Last paragraph, last sentence, correct to read: "The decision to preserve the agricultural and commercial farming economy will have an impact upon community growth patterns." Page 48: Last paragraph, change sentence in middle to read: "Fees collected in the non-sewered rural service area are held in escrow until SAC boundaries are corrected. The 1979 SAC charge is $425..." Delete last sentence, "It is up to the City to determi ne.. .d i rect the community's deve 10pment." (Mayor Windschit1 arrived at this time) Page 49: Delete sentence "It would appear that this scheme.. .even within the scope of this plan." Page 51: Objective 3, should read: "Retain Andover's general rural/open space character in the rural service district." Page 59: Industrial, 1, Change to read: "Industrial development shall be confined to the industrial area; and if additional industrial development takes place, it should be within the sewered area of the City." Page 64, Staged Provision of Urban Service map: To be corrected to reflect accurate study area for CAB interceptor service and the accurate SAC charge limit boundary. Also questioned the study area for CAB interceptor service north of the urban service area. Page 62, Existing Land Use map: Needs to be updated to show all plats, plus areas shaded should include the entire platted area, squaring up the plats, including pre- liminary plats that are in the process. The proposed Hanson Boulevard extension should also be shown. Page 63: This will be updated when the rezoning of the urban service area is finalized. The rezoning changes in the southwest portion of the City should be shown. The maps should also reflect "Special Use Permit issued for mobile home park per Supreme Court ruling" on that affected property southwest of Round Lake. Page 65: The percentages of each of the categories appear to be in error. It was directed that the Planner verify the accuracy and correct the percentages.. Page 66: Second paragraph, last sentence, change to read: "The size of the individual lots will vary due to the existence of some small lots that were developed prior to the adoption of the zoning ordinance." Last paragraph, fourth line, change "3.4 units" to "2.5 units." Last paragraph, eighth line, delete "in 1981". Also delete last sentence in paragraph: "In addition to the PUD suggested...site of the present landfill." Special City Council/Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 19. 1980 - Minutes Page 3 Page 68: Will need to be updated for the rezonings that the City makes in the near future. Pages 72, 73, 74, and 75, Existing zoning district and proposed zoning districts: "AG" District: It was agreed that the district should be created by the City, but to have property owners apply for the zoning. "R-2" Single Family Estate: Is no longer allowed by the City, but there are existing R-2 districts. Suggested rewording to: "This district was intended to provide for suitaó1e areas of a residential atmosphere in a single family neigh- borhood of large suburban density. Minimum lot size was one acre. This use is no longer allowed for new development." (page 73) "R-7" Manufactured Housing District: end of paragraph, add: (This was formerly the R-5 District). (page 74) "R-4" Single and Two-Family Suburban: Discussion was on whether or not double family residential uses should be deleted from this district and allowed only in R-5 districts in which the developer would need to apply for a rezoning, or whether double family residential uses should remain in the R-4 definition and be allowed by Special Use Permit only. It was agreed to leave double family residential uses in the R-4 zone, that conditioBS should be set forth for granting Special Use Permits for doubles, and that Ms. Bose11 confer with Dave Licht to see if criteria can be set up that would be protective of existing residents. If not, a separate district should be set up for doubles. "GR" General Recreation, which is an existing zoning district, should also remain as a proposed zoning district. (page 72) Proposed Zoning District "B-3", Highway Business, be changed to "Thoroughfare Business District ". (pages 72 and 74) OVERLAY DISTRICTS, also include "**Peat1ands" (page 72 and add definition on page 75) *P1anned Unit Development: should be split between Residential PUD and Commercial PUD (page 72) and both definitions be included (page 75). Page 86, Transportation Issues map: Graphics of the extension of Hanson Boulevard should be corrected to go straight north from County Road 20 as was agreed to by the City. Discussion was also on planning an east-west road through the City, particularly in the area west of Round Lake Boulevard and north of County Road 20. It was suggested a conceptual east-west route be marked on page 86 from Hanson Boulevard westward in the general area of 167th to 165th. It was also suggested a statement be made to the effect that the City recognizes the need for and is searching for a location for building a major east-west thoroughfare west of County Road 9 to provide adequate fire and police protection. Page 89, No. 10: Reword to "The City shall work with the County in the planning of additional transportation links crossing the Rum River." Page 98: First paragraph under STREET CONDITION/MAINTENANCE: Ray Sowada is to obtain the accurate figure for the number of miles of sand and gravel streets in the City. Page 106, Community Facilities Issues map: Correct SAC charge limit boundaries. Also correct CAB interceptor boundary. Page 125, Existing Parks map and Page 126, Park System Master Plan map: Update to include recent parks accepted by the City. A more recent map should also be used which would indicate all streets in recently accepted plats as well. Special City Council/Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 19, 1980 - Minutes Page 4 Page 133, Planning Districts map:: Needs to be changed to reflect the accurate seweredarea with the proposed change of the MUSA line by the City after that change is formally adopted. Pages 134 through 146, Planning Districts: All districts should show shaded areas on the maps to indicate platted areas or define boundaries of platted areas, including those preliminary plats that are pending before the City. Each district should also reflect the percentage of developable land remaining. DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED RAMSEY ICE ARENA Mayor Windschitl explained that the City of Ramsey has asked for and received $4,000 from the County for preparation of a grant application for an ice arena to be built On parkland dedicated to the County within the City of Ramsey. There are several Andover residents on their committee and the name "City of Andover" has appeared in some of their documents as using the arena, assuming the Rum River Crossing is constructed. In the past, Andover has denied Ramsey's request to serve. on the committee. The problem that arises is that the County's original plan called for the next ice arena to be constructed at Bunker Hills Park. The Council needs to decide whether to support Ramsey's proposal, oppose Ramsey's proposal, or whether to apply for simi1iar funds from the County and work a joint effort with Coon Rapids, Ham Lake, and Blaine, all of which border Bunker Hills Park, to obtain a similiar grant for an ice arena at Bunker Hills. After further discussion, it was generally agreed by the Council that an ice arena at Bunker Hills Park would be preferable and agreed to have the Mayor contact the Mayors of Ham Lake, Blaine, and Coon Rapids to find out their feeling on such a joint proj ect. MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Lachinski, to adÖourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:16 p.m. Respectfully SUb~~ ~~ CA . tccu~ Mar 11a A. Peach Recor °ng Secretary ---- -,