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.- . SPECIAL~ C:tCA~I~~YG~~ 26,1980
AGENDA
1. Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
2. Agenda Approval
3. Bond Sale - $4,365,000 (1980-3, 1980-4)
4. Xenia Street Repair
5. Expanded Water Service Area - 8:00 P.M.
6. Interview - Kevin Starr - 9:00 P.M.
7. Change Order - Water/Sonsteby
8. Volunteer Fire Department
a. Grant Application Approval
b. Purchase vehicle/Fire Chief
c. Transfer of Budget Funds
9. Personnel Committee
a. Cost of Living Increases/January 1
b. Conferences/Seminar Policy
10.
11.
12.
13. Adjournment
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~ 01 ANDOVER
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 26, 1980
MINUTES
A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jerry
Windschit1 on August 26, 1980, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Jacobson, Lachinski, Ortte1, Peach
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: TKDA Engineers, John Davidson and Mark Schumacher; City Clerk,
P. K. Lindquist; and others
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Peach, to approve the Agenda as presented. ~lot ion
carried unanimously.
XENIA STREET REPAIR
Ms. Lindquist explained that a contractor building a house on Xenia Street damaged the
blacktop shortly after it was put in. Mr. Winner had r~cCrossan Company patch it up, which
amounted to a cost of $226.37. Mr. Davidson stated that normal practice is to have the
City pay McCrossan and to bill the contractor responsible for the damage.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Ortte1, that we pay C. S. McCrossan, Inc., $226.37 for
repa1r to the street at 16242 Xenia Street NW, and that we also have the City Clerk make
out a bill for the same amount and send it to whomever it was that did the damage.
After discussion, Councilman Jacobson CHANGED motion for the amount that we bill to the
firm that did the damage that our bill should be for $226.37 plus any costs incurred
by the City. Second stands. Motion carried unanimously.
CHANGE ORDER - WATER/SONSTEBY
Mr. Davidson explained that Ms. Sonsteby has petitioned to become part of the water
service district in the Southwest Area Project. The connecting line is already laid under
the road. It is a matter of her extending lateral watermains into her subdivision as
part of the presently proposed system. That 17 acres would then count toward the 160
acres of ultimate development. It is feasible to service her with or without the
storage tank.
Discussion was on the additional cost this would be to the entire project. The Engineers
are to make an estimate of the cost for this change order; the item will be discussed
again later during the meeting.
BOND SALE - $4,365,000 (1980-3, 1980-4 Projects)
King Forness of Springsted, Inc., reviewed the following bids that were submitted: John
Nuveen and Company for a net interest dollar cost of $5,620,857.50 and for a net interest
rate of 9.5422 percent; and First National Bank of St. Paul and co-managers for a net
interest dollar cost of $5,287,573.36 and for a net interest rate of 8.97644 percent.
Given the market conditions today, Mr. Forness felt that the bid represents their best
efforts and, he felt, is realistic for long-term bonds.
Discussion was on the market conditions today. Mr. Forness estimated if the entire call
is taken, the City is looking at about an effective 8.75 percent rate. Mr. Forness also
stated that the City has to demonstrate 105 percent coverage of the bond to provide for
delinquent accounts by law; and at these rates, an additional 1 percent for assessment
purposes might not cover the issue. For this reason, he suggested the City not make a
Special City Council Meeting
August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 2
(Bond Sale - $4.365,000, Continued)
commitment on the assessment rate at this time. The Engineers noted that the amount
presented at the public hearing was at 8 and 9 percent interest for the assessments. At
10 percent, it would add approximately $40 more annually to an assessment payment.
Council also noted that a property owner has the option of paying off an assessment at
any time.
Mr. Forness explained that the bond issue has a call after the fifth year, requiring
the longest bonds to be called first as the City has prepayment monies available to do so.
It is a mandatory procedure in the Resolution that in December of each year, the bonds
will be called for the amount of balance over what will be needed to meet payments the
following year.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Peach, introducing a Resolution authorizing issuance,
awarding sale, prescribing of form and details, and providing for the payment of $4,365;000
in General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1980, Series B as presented by Springsted,
Inc., and acknowledge the bids from the firm of John Nuveen with the net interest dollar
cost to be $5,620,857.50 and net interest rate of 9.5422 percent and the firm of First
National Bank of St. Paul with a net interest dollar cost of $5,287.573.36 and with a net
interest rate of 8.97644 percent; and award the bid to First National Bank of St. Paul.
(See Resolution R105-80) Motion carried unanimously.
Recess at 8:03; reconvene at 8:15 p.m.
EXPANDED WATER SERVICE AREA
Mr. Davidson reviewed the originally proposed system and costs and the revised water
service area with overhead tower and its costs.
Larr~ Carlson - asked if his figures are correct that the overhead tower system is at
an a ded cost of $200,000. Mr. Davidson agreed, also noting that the storage tank
provides added benefit for fire protection, but the question is how quickly will the 360
acres beyond the first 160 acres develop. He also noted that the system originally
proposed will be an intrega1 part of the expanded system in the future. It is designed
to be affordable at this time using the cost of providing 200 separate wells to the area
as a parameter; and there are a number of alternatives to financing. It can be paid for
entirely by area charge or partially by user charge. Their figures represent using 60
cents per 1,000 gallons user charge, of which 40 cents would be used for operational
expenses and maintenance and 20 cents would be put in a sinking fund for capital replace-
ment or expansion. Mayor Windschit1 stated that the net additional cost of the elevated
tower over the pressure pneumatic system is $170,000.
Mr. Carlson - noted that on May 7 he wrote the City asking to be removed from consideration
in the proJect and estimated at that time the proposed water system would amount to
approximately $4,500 per home unit. He asked the Engineers what figures they are basing
their parameters. Mr. Davidson stated that the figures do not relate the total dollar
amount in a particular subdivision; but with most of the private wells in the area being
200 to 280 feet deep, the cost for the central system is comparable to that of individual
wells, assuming the going rate for well drilling is $10 to $20 a foot for private wells.
Mr. Carlson - stated that the going rate for well drilling is closer to $7.50 to $8.50
per foot; and he estimated a 200-foot well would be approximately $2,500 completely connected
to the house. Mayor Windschit1 calculated that with the projected lateral cost for
Northg1en of $168,400 and with an area assessment at $860 an acre, which is $42,456,
the total cost of $210,906 divided by 121 actual living units in the plat equats to $1,743
per dwelling, which gets it to the property line.
Special City Council Meeting
August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 3
(Expanded Water Service Area, Continued)
Frank Voth - asked about the price difference between the two pressure systems. Mr.
Davidson stated they are talking in terms of the elevated tank, $35,000, in lieu of the
pressure system, $180,000. Both the pressure system and the elevated tank would not
be needed. The cost difference between the two is $170,000.
Mr. Carlson - asked if the per-lot cost determined for the Northglen plat would be
1ncreased if an elevated tank were put in instead. Mr. Schumacher stated in looking at
480 acres, one well, and elevated tank plus oversizing, the per-acre charge would
increase by only $10 per acre.
Mr. Carlson - questioned the figures in light of the fact that a second well would
probably be needed at the time he develops his property. Would he be assessed again for
that second well? He is puzzled that he would be assessed for the first well but it
could not be used to serve his property. Discussion was that the well would not
be needed until the 160 acres is saturated, and then it would be paid for out of the 20
cents/1,OOO gallons user charge. Mr. Davidson suggested outlining the scope of the
entire project now so that an area assessment wouldn't be needed for the second well,
using either an area assessment or user charge, which would be projected On a population
increase of 440 people per year and which would be put into a sinking fUnd to be
available at the time the second well is needed. Or a combination of an area assessment
initially and a user charge ultimately would be established. Another option is a
segmented-type assessment, which would mean those areas that would utilize a second well
would be assessed for it when it is constructed.
Mr. Voth - asked for the area assessment charge for just the overhead tank. Mayor
W1ndsch1t1 ca1cuated that by theoretically recoving the net increase of the overhead
storage system of $170,000, it would result in an area assessment of $354/acre for the
tank.
Mr. Voth - asked if the 160 acres projected that the pressure pneumatic tank system
could serve could be increased. How was that number arrived at? Mr. Davidson
stated that when 160 acres is saturated, the available 500 gpm flow begins to decrease.
It can be expanded beyond that, but there would not be 500 gpm flow.
Mr. Voth - stated that Northg 1en and Rademacher's area util i zes approximate 1y. ha 1f of
the 160 acres. He asked if the assessment is going to be against a specific 160 acres
at this point. He questioned what happens if they are assessed $870/acre for the 160
acres but they are not ready to use the water, then someone else comes in. Would a
new developer get to use that water that they have paid against or do they have a
vested interest in it? Mayor Windschit1 stated that that problem has already surfaced
as Ms. Sonsteby has already petitioned for water for 17 acres.
Mr. Voth - had no problem paying the acreage assessment against the land already platted;
but he felt that possibly the land across the road should not be charged at this time any
more than anyone else is. He didn't want to pay for something any sooner than he had to
or pay for something that others will be able to use first. They presently have only an
undefined interest for the 80 acres west of Bunker Lake Boulevard with no formal plans
to do anyth i ng with it yet. Mr. Davidson explained that the City will have to establish
a defined water service area for the proposed water system, but the system is designed to
serve the 80 acres west of Round Lake Boulevard.
Mr. Voth - asked what figure is used for the number of units per acre in a development.
Mayor Windschit1 stated that Northg1en is slightly over 4 housing units per acre, and
calculated that an overhead tank system comes to an additional $88 a house over the
initially proposed pressure pneumatic tank system. The Engineers stated that their cal-
culations are based on approximately 10 persons per acre or 3 housing units per acre.
Special City Council Meeting
August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 4
(Expanded Water Service Area, Continued)
Mr. Voth - then calculated that 3 housing units per acre times 140 acres equals a
dens1ty of 1440 units. At a development of 150 houses a year, which is about the
largest number of houses built in Andover in any given year, it would take between 9
and 10 years to saturate the area. He was concerned that the thinking may be too optimistic
that this will be completed within 2 or 3 years. There was a lengthy discussion
relative to the figures being used in the calculations, questioning whether the $170,000
net difference being used is the correct one; questioning the financing and assessment
procedures if the pressure pneumatic tank system is built now and eventually expanded to
include an overhead tank; and reviewing the Engineer's recommendation on how the system
would be expanded if the pressure pneumatic tank is constructed at this time.
Mr. Carlson - stated that if the pressure pneumatic system with two wells could serve an
area of 250 acres, that would economically make more sense to him. as he felt 250 acres
is not going to be saturated for quite some time. Mr. Davidson also stated that if an
elevated tank were put in now, the City would be carrying the financing until the user
charges were sufficient to pay for it. It is possible to put in the pressure pneumatic
tank system now, accumulate revenue from the user charges and issue revenue bonds to
construct the elevated tank when it is needed, which is their proposal for the staged
water system.
Wayne Anderson - asked how the overhead tank system would affect the timetable for
availability of water. Mr. Davidson stated it is their intent that there would be
no reduction in the time frame relative to water availability, even if a temporary facility
would be needed in the interim. The tank would probably not be built until next fall.
Mr. Voth - favored the more conservative route at this time with the pressure pneumatic
tank and one well.
Mr. Carlson - asked the length of the assessment period (15 years of equal payments) and
when it would be levied (payable in 1982, with a 15 percent escrow amount required up
front) and when is the breaking point for a third well. Mr. Davidson stated that
at saturation, a determination must be made about carrying the feedermain to the east
or to put in another tank and well. At the pOint when 250 acres is saturated, an
overhead storage system would be constructed. Mr. Davidson stated that economically, the
proposed pressure pneumatic tank system is more attractive, but not so regarding fire
protection. It is possible to have a ground storage reservoir for some minimal amount of
storage. The pressure tank would be a permanent part of any future expansion as a backup
only if it is put in initially. A pressure tank would not be installed if an overhead
storage tower would be constructed initially.
Discussion was then that there is some confusion over the $170,000 net additional cost
being used for the overhead tank. The meeting was recessed to allow the Engineers to
compute the correct figures.
Recess at 9:20; reconvene at 9:37 p.m.
Mr. Davidson reviewed his revised calculations: with an overhead tank, two wells, one
pumphouse, and one pressure pneumatic tank, $770,000, divided by 480 acres equals
$1604 per acre if everything is assessed. With just the overhead tank and one well and
oversized piping, $588,800 divided by 250 acres, the point at which an additional well is
needed, equals $2,360 per acre. If that is divided over the 480 acres, it equals
$l,226/acre at 100 percent assessed. With two wells, one with pressure pneumatic tank
and no overhead storage, $318,800, divided by 250 acres of assessable property, equals
$1280/acre. The tank, piping, and additional pressure facility would be $700,000 divided
by 480 acres, which equals $1460 and which is approximately $260 an acre additional for
the pressure facility in the interim.
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August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 5
(Expanded Water Service Area, Continued)
George Ado1fson - had no comment at this time. He does not have any plans to develop
h1S property 1n the near future as he is still farming the land.
Council discussion was that since it appears that development over the next five years
will not warrant the overhead storage tank at this time, that it would not be feasible to
put it in now; that the City should determine what the original water service area should
be assessed per acre to take into account the amount to support the total water system so
that in the end, all property is treated alike regardless of which order it is developed;
that the pressure pneumatic tank system with two wells should service most of that land
that may be developed in the foreseeable future; questioned the assessment procedure as
to when property is assessed for water service, referencing the Good Value property
west of Round Lake Boulevard which is included in the original assessment area but which
will not be utilizing the service until such time that it is developed; that once a
revenue-producing water facility is established, there are several ways to expand the
system for the overhead storage tank; and that at some point when land beyond the 250
acres would be developed, the system would be 600 feet from the undeveloped properties
east of Coon Creek in the Bunker Lake Boulevard area, which would quite likely have
another water system or elevated storage.
Mr. Carlson - preferred the water system of two wells with pressure pneumatic tank to
service 250 acres rather than incurring the assessment for the overhead tank now.
M~. Voth - assuming the two wells, pressure pneumatic tank, and pumphouse is installed
to serve 250 acres at $1280/acre, will they be assessed for the entire thing now? They
have signed the development contract and delivered it today. He wondered where these
numbers relate. Discussion was that only one well would be constructed at this time;
that the Council will need to determine what average rate would be assessed over the area;
and that the Council will be making that decision shortly after the bids are received for
the project.
Mr. Voth - preferred the water system of two wells with pressure pneumatic tank at this
time.
Council agreed to construct the pressure penumatic tank system, and that decisions will
need to be made regarding the number of acres to be assessed initially, the assessment
policy for new incoming plats, and the assessment rate.
INTERVIEW - KEVIN STARR (Public Works Person)
Council asked various questions of Mr. Starr. Mr. Starr stated he had received his
Class B driver's license, that he started working in the City On a part-time basis last
summer, that his hours are flexible, that he has been driving the dump truck and may be
trained to operate the grader, that he lives in Anoka but may try to move into Andover,
that he is accepted in the Fire Department contingent upon his acceptance of this position,
and that he is willing to do any work that would be required of him.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Ortte1, that we hire Kevin Starr on a permanent basis
effective as of 8/25/80 at $4.50 an hour. Motion carried unanimously.
CHANGE ORDER - WATER/SONSTEBY, Continued
Mr. Davidson stated that based on the previous estimated cost of the water system, it
would be approximately $80,000 to serve Ms. Sonsteby's 17 acres with watermains and
hydrants. The easements for the sanitary sewer have already been defined. Council
agreed to postpone action on the issue until after the bids for the Southwest Area
Project are tabulated to determine the actual cost.
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August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 6
VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT - GRANT APPLICATION APPROVAL
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Clerk be authorized to sign the
grant application for breathing apparatus for the Fire Department. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Lachinski, that we approve Claim Number 3349 in the amount
of $1,999.98 to Minnesota Fire, Inc.. Motion carried unanimously.
VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT - PURCHASE VEHICLE/FIRE CHIEF
Assistant Fire Chief Tom May stated they have looked at the vehicle and drove it
Saturday morning and talked with the person who had the vehicle for the last 6,000 miles.
Fire Chief Bob Palmer explained that the vehicle is a 1977 Ram Charger Dodge, 4-whee1
drive, v-a engine, for sale at $1,000 with 99,000 miles on it. Insurance will be between
$300 and $350 a year for liability only. They have a firm estimate for a radio installed
at $1,000; however, that would not have to be done at this time, as the Chief can
continue to use his portable hand-held radio until funds are available.
Council discussion was on the vehicle itself and on the use of it. Councilman Ortte1
felt that it was a lot of money for the number of miles on it. He was afraid of the
maintenance problems that may occur on it as well. Chief Palmer estimated he puts on 5100
miles a year on his own car for Fire Department purposes. He intends to keep the
vehicle at his house so that he can respond directly to fires. He also asked if it
would be possible to drive it to and from work in Anoka as he responds to fires during
those times as well. Mayor Windschit1 questioned whether the Chief should be taking
a City Vehicle out of the City. He felt the City would come under a lot of criticism if
a City vehicle were allowed to sit in a parking lot outside the City all day, and he
didn't think it was a reasonable thing to do. Councilman Lachinski felt that it
would not be a problem since Chief Palmer works in Anoka, but felt there probably would
be if he would transfer to a suburb farther away. Councilman Ortte1 questioned the
insurance rating of the vehicle if Chief Palmer were allowed to drive it to and from
work. Chief Palmer stated that he would be willing to reimburse the City for personal
mileage on the vehicle and he would be willing to keep mileage sheets as to where and
how it is being used. He also stated that the County may be agreeable to defer billing
until after the first of the year. He also felt the $1,000 grant the Department will be
receiving could be put toward this vehicle.
Discussion was on the amount of money remaining in the Fire Department Capital Improvements
budget for 1980.
Fire Chief Palmer also stated that he was not aware that the bill for the transmission
repair, amounting to $1120, was not paid. In reviewing the budget, he felt that there
would be excess funds from the Staff Employee account.
Councilman Peach felt that professionally speaking, it is essential that the Chief be
provided a vehicle. Whether or not the Chief can use the car to and from work or to
charge him for it, is largely incidental to him. Councilman Jacobson was not opposed to
purchasing the vehicle if the $1,000 is to come out of this year's budget.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that the Council authorize $1,000 for the
purchase of a County 4-whee1 drive for the Fire Chief.
Councilman Peach AMENDED MOTION that the vehicle is to remain within the City limits
except in the case of emergency or specific approval of the Council. Amendment dies for
lack of a second. DISCUSSION: Mayor Windschit1 stated that the vehicle is very
expensive to run, especially to meetings and made a recommendation to equip one of the
existing City vehicles with safety equipment to be used as the Chief's car after hours.
Some Councilmen expressed the opinion that the use of the vehicle outside City limits
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Special City Council Meeting
August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 7
(AVFD - Purchase Vehicle/Fire Chief, Continued)
should not be made a contingency for purchasing the vehicle but that a policy on the matter
should be established at some point.
Vote on the motion was held to get a clarification of the amount remaining in the Fire
Department budget.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Jacobson, that Fire Department be authorized to transfer
$1, 120 from Salaries fund to pay for the repairs on the 6-whee1 drive fire vehicle.
Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion continued on the purchase of the vehicle for the Fire Chief. It was determined
that approximately $1,240 would be in the account after receiving the grant mOney from the
State and after purchasing the breathing apparatus and compressor. It was also noted
that lights, radio. mileage, and insurance will be extra and will need to be budgeted
for 1981.
VOTE ON MOTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF VEHICLE: YES-Jacobson, Lachinski, Peach;
NO-Ortte1, Windschit1. Motion carried.
Councilman Ortte1 - I think it is too much money to pay for that type of vehicle with
that many miles on it. There are cheaper ones available.
Mayor Windschit1 - I would like to know the ultimate use of the vehicle before I would
be in favor of purchasing it.
Discussion was on where the money should come from.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, to direct the City Clerk to request the County
to defer the billing of the vehicle until January 1, 1981. DISCUSSION: the reason
for the deferment is to insure that the City has the grant funds from the State in
hand. Also, insurance money will be needed for the remainder of 1980. Motion carried
unanimously.
(Councilman Peach left the meeting at this time - 11:10 p.m.)
Mayor Windschit1 asked the Council to give some thought to the City making an additional
contribution to the Relief Association for those fire fighters who joined the Department
when it first began for the first and possibly second years. He estimated it would be
approximately $500 per person per year and would be a reward to those first people who
put their time and effort into organizing the Department. It would also then equalize
payments for the length of service for all fire fighters.
PERSONNEL COMMITTEE - COST OF LIVING INCREASES/JANUARY 1, 1981
Councilman Jacobson stated that it is the Personnel Committee's recommendation that cost
of living increases for all City employees be based on 60 percent of the CPI-U Minneapolis
Urban Consumer Index, which is approximately 7 percent. Merit raises would be on top of
that.
Councilman Lachinski didn't agree with the concept of basing it on a particular index.
His concern was the final outcome of an employee's salary and wanted to know what percentage
the surrounding cities are using. He suggested granting a 7 percent cost of living increase
for everybody and anything above that would be for outstanding performance.
Mayor Windschitl had no objection to 7 percent, or possibly somewhat more; but he didn't
feel it should be used across the board. He felt that those employees hired during the
year should get a percentage of the increase based on the number of months worked during
the year. He also felt that monies should be made available to give performance raises.
Special City Council Meet1ng
August 26, 1980 - Minutes
Page 8
(Personnel Committee - Cost of Living Increases, Continued)
(Councilman Peach returned to the meeting - 11:24 p.m.)
Discussion continued on the pros and cons of the Perosnne1 Committee's recommendation,
with various other suggestions for determining salary increases made by Councilmembers.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Peach, that we adopt the Consumer Price Index - U, which
is the Minneapolis Urban Consumer Index and that we set the salary increases in the
coming year at 60 percent of that Consumer Index based on the most current Index.
DISCUSS ION : Councilman Jacobson stated that this is the formula that will be used to
determine cost of living increases. The Clerk would determine a merit increase as well
for a figure to be used in the budget. Mayor Windschit1 felt a simple percentage would
be the best method rather than using the CPI. He also was concerned on how the salary
increases would affect the 1981 budget.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Jacobson, Ortte1, Peach; NO-Lachinski, Windschitl
Motion carried.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that the Urban Consumer Price Index figure that is
used times 60 percent will be paid on the basis of 1/12 of that amount for each month
worked in the previous calendar year.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Jacobson, Ortte1, Peach; NO-Lachinski, Windschitl
Motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Windschit1 - I agree with the idea of pro-rating an increase, but I disagree with
using of an index.
CONFERENCES/SEMINAR POLICY
Councilman Ortte1 stated that previous Council discussions were that for major conventions,
employees would be allowed to attend one every three years, that one being the closest to
the City in that time period.
Given the reduction in City revenues, the Council agreed to budget $1,000 for conferences
and travel; and if that money can be kept in the budget after going through the budget
cuts, a resume must be submitted of what is expected to be accomplished at a particular
function prior to approval.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:43 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar e11a A. Peach
Recording Secretary