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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER 21, 1980
AGENDA
1. Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4. Discussion Items
a. Complaints - 1980-1, 1980-2
b. Property Division/Wallace
c. Final Plat/Rolling Creek Trails
d. Amendment/Ordinance No.8-Visual Standards
e. Cedar Crest Development Contract/Dispüsition
f. Special Use Permit/Rademacher
g. Moving Permit/Sia h. Cable TV
5. Non-Discussion Items
a. Selection of City Auditor
b. Date/Budget Meeting
c. Date/Interview Consultants-Ordinance Revision
d. Ordinance No. 19 Amendment/1979 UBC-1980 State Code Amendments
e. Appointment/Advisory Board-Community Development Block Grants
6. Reports of Commissions, Committees, Staff
7. Approval of Minutes
8. Approval of Claims
9. Adjournment
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER 21, 1980
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschit1 on October 21, 1980, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Lachinski, Orttel, Peach
Councilman absent: Jacobson
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; TKDA Engineer, Mark
Schumacher; City Engineer, Larry Winner; City Clerk,
P. K. Lindquist; and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Herb and Jeane Moore, 138th Avenue NW - complained about the quality of the material
and workmanship on the1r corner during the street improvement project. They were
disturbed about the straw placed over the seed, the rocks, glass and debris mixed in
with the soil placed in the boulevards which was previously sodded. Their concern is
to get it rectified in a professional manner, and they expressed concern over decreasing
value of their property as a result of the poor job done on the improvement. Mr.
Winner stated that there was debris in the topsoil as the specifications did not call
for pulverized topsoil. He has talked with the contractor, who has agreed to do the
work on Mr. Winner's punch list within the next few days, including raking out the
debris, res10ping and reshaping the boulevard on the Moore's corner, and to reseed the
boulevard.
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Ms. Moore - described what she felt was now a mess because of the sloping on the
boulevard from the project, explained the problem they had with mud running into their
driveways from the boulevard, the problem with the standing water over their other
driveway as a result of the sloping of the asphalt and the driveway, and stated she
felt that sod was justified in their area because of all the aggravation they have gone
through. She also did not want the mess of having the straw put down again if it is
seeded. Mr. Winner stated the contractor has been asked to slope the boulevard from
the existing curb downward to the existing yard. Because of the amount of regrading
that wi 11 need to be done, he fe 1t that most of the debri s wi 11 then be graded from
the topsoil. Discussion continued with the Moores that the policy has been to place
sod for erosion purposes only because sodding is very expensive for the City and that
a resident would be able to place sod much cheaper than the City can. Discussion was
also on the problem of the topsoil washing out and gathering in their driveways and
on the sequence of events relative to the blacktopping of their driveway and the sur-
facing of the street. It was agreed to place a roll of sod along both sides of the
driveways to keep the soil from washing over the driveways. It is also possible to
seed without placing the straw down. Also, the City cannot do any work on private
property. H & S Contracting has an obligation to put the road in according to plans
and specifications, and Mr. Schumacher is to verify that that was done. Mr. Winner
stated he has also talked with United Asphalt who put in the Moore's driveway just
prior to the street surfacing, and he understood that United Asphalt was to work out
some compromise with H & S on correcting the:?rob1em of the standing water on the
Moore's driveway. It was also agreed that as much sod as is needed to control erosion
will be placed there.
Mr. Moore - also felt there has been a lack of communication and requested that they be
lnformed of what will be done. Mr. Schumacher stated that the contractor will be in
the area in the next day or two to take care of these and other problems. When working
on the Moore's problem, both he and Mr. Winner will make themselves available to the
Moores.
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(Resident Forum, Continued)
Bob Chapman, 720 Lincoln Street, Anoka - had owned and developed Chapman's Additions
and requested that he be allowed to have the excess fill from the street improvement
project in those developments. He felt that when a property owner develops a project
and dedicates the streets, if there is a portion of that material no longer needed
by the City, it should be returned to the original property owner. Mr. Schumacher
explained that all excess fill from the construction of the frontage road along Bunker
Lake Boulevard will be made available to Mr. Chapman and Mr. Boeh1and, rationalizing
that it normally would have been developed at the expense of the developer but is
instead being constructed as a City improvement project. He didn't believe that would
be enough fill for the properties east of Grace Lutheran Church on Bunker Lake Boulevard.
If fill is taken from a standing dedicated street which has been maintained by the
City for a number of years, the policy has been that that excavation would be used by
the City to fill parks, etc., within the City. Discussion also noted that all excavation
from the Southwest Area project is planned to be used in the LakeRidge park, and it is
felt that the estimated 20,000 cubic yards of excess fill can all be used in LakeRidge
park. There is an obligation to the entire City and the fill is needed in the park.
Also, the City cannot fill private property at the expense of the city at large.
Council agreed with the Engineer's suggestion to provide Mr. Chapman with the excess
fill from the construction of the frontage road but that the excavation from the street
construction in the various developments be used for City purposes.
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, the Agenda be approved as published with the
add1tions of 4f, Special Use Permit/Rademacher; 4g, Moving Permit/Sia; 4h, Cable TV;
and 5e, Appointment/Advisory Board. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, the addition of Items 4i, Pumphouse Plans; and
4j, Change Order on the Well. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we suspend the rules. Motion carried
unanimously.
COMPLAINTS - 1980-1, 1980-2
Discussion on Mr. Winner's October 17, 1980, memo was on the suggestion that he also
include the cost increase of the project if sod were included.
FINAL PLAT/ROLLING CREEK TRAILS
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we allow an extension for the filing of the
F1nal Plat of Rolling Creek Trails until 4/21/81 pursuant to Ordinance lOA. (See
Resolution R130-80) DISCUSSION: Mr. Winner stated that they have received the results
of the water tests taken by Twin City Testing, which has found that there are small
levels of contaminates. However, the Health Department didn't see any problem or
cOncern with using the water because the levels were so small. It is not known whether
the contaminant is related to the plastic disposals on that site. Discussion also
noted that the Metropolitan Council, which is reviewing the City's Comprehensive Plan,
may be requiring the City to amend the Plan to provide for 5-acre minimum lot size
rather than the existing 2~-acre requirement. If that were to happen, there is a
possibility that at some point the plat may not be in compliance with the Comprehensive
Plan prior to final plat approval.
Jim Merrila - stated the intent is to go forward with the development of the plat. The
only reason the owners have not gone forward is because of the financial status of the
economy at this time. He asked if there is a good 1ik~lihood that the Metro Council
will require Andover to have the 5-acre stipulation as a minimum lot size; and if so,
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when would that go into effect? Discussion was that from what information is available,
the Metro Council is holding with the 5-acre minimum requirement and do have the
enforcement powers for requiring the City to comply with their recommendations. The
Metro Council must act on the City's plan within 60 days, which means any change in
lot sizes would probably come about prior to the 4/21/81 extension date.
Mr. Merrila - understood that with this extension, bonding would be required to
guarantee the street construction, and that the streets wouldn't have to be cOnstructed
at the time of final plat approval. He asked for the extension until 4/21/81; and as
long as they are aware of the possible 5-acre situation, they can be looking into their
options as well. Council discussion noted that pursuant to the ordinance, plans that
have been granted an extension of time are subject to all ordinance changes. Councilman
Lachinski indicated he was in favor of this extension, but he didn't feel he would look
favorably on another extension beyond this one. Motion carried unanimously.
PROPERTY DIVISION/WALLACE
Mr. Schumacher reviewed the Wallace's concern that they will not be able to fully
develop their property located immediately north of 142nd, east of C.S.A.H. 9. Council
discussion was that there are several ways in which the property could be developed,
getting as many as 23 lots from the 9-acre piece by running some through streets north
and south, which was felt to be very efficient development. Mr. Schumacher agreed to
talk with the Wa11aces on the Council's feeling that there are several possible ways
to develop the property.
PUMPHOUSE PLANS
Mr. Schumacher reviewed the pumphouse plans and site plan of the area, noting they are
proposing some shrubbery in the front of the pumphouse estimated to cost between
$400 and $500, plus some larger trees totalling approximately $1,500 to $1,600.
Council generally had no objection to the landscaping but felt that the area could be
seeded rather than sodded. Mr. Schumacher also noted that the exterior is proposed to
be a burnished block finish in lieu of brick and is designed with the intent to look
like a residential home. He stated that Mr. Voth of Good Value Homes is satisfied with
the plans. Wayne Anderson, representing the Rademacher shopping center development,
also stated he was agreeable to the design. Mr. Schumacher also noted there will be a
knockout in the wall for the removal of the tank from the building if that is ever
desired.
Also, it is TKDA's recommendation that the City not put in standby power unit in the
pumphouse itself but have a provision for a portable unit that, until the City purchased
on~, could be rented to hook into the pumphouse. A standby power unit in the pumphouse
would require constructing an extra room onto the pumphouse for the diesel engine to
drive the 75 or 100 horsepower motor. Discussion On the recommendation was on the
Council's concern that a rental unit may not be found in an emergency when it is
needed; on the procedure that would be used if a portable unit would be used; that
a portable unit could be used in the future when additional wells, lift stations, etc.,
are constructed; and that possibly a portable unit could be acquired by the City to be
used for standby power at the pumphouse, the fire station, etc. Mr. Schumacher was
directed to find out the approximate costs to purchase a portable unit.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we approve the plans for the pumphouse for
the City water system as presented by TKDA. (See Resolution R131-80) Motion carried
unanimously.
CHANGE ORDER/WELL
Mr. Schumacher requested the Council to approve a change order for the well project for
an additional $1,575 for the well contractor to furnish and install discharge piping for
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(Change Order/Well, Continued)
the test pumping on the well, running it over to the County storm sewer. The plans
originally called for the test pumping to be done around the middle of November when
the sewer would have already been installed. They are nOW looking at test pumping
next week, and the contractor is still dewatering that area for the installation of
the sanitary sewer lines.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we approve a change order in the amount of
$1,575 for the City well to allow for test pumping. DISCUSSION: Mr. Schumacher
explained the cost is for the installation, test pumping, and removal of the 10-inch
pipe for 700 to 800 feet to the ditch. The payment does not include the purchase of
the pipe itself. Mr. Schumacher also explained that they have augured the 18-inch
hole for the well and the formation they were looking for is at 400 feet rather than
the 600 feet that was anticipated, thereby saving about 200 feet of depth. It is
anticipated that they will be able to pump up to 1,100 gallons per minute. Motion
carried unanimously.
AMENDMENT/ORDINANCE NO.8 - VISUAL STANDARDS
Discussion was on the interpretation of the ordinance as written by Attorney Hawkins.
Mr. Hawkins' interpretation is that someone could not put up unfinished or unpainted
galvanized steel, aluminum, or steel siding. If it was painted, it is allowable.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, introducing an Ordinance amending Ordinance
No.8, adopted October 21, 1970, known as the Zoning Ordinance of the City of
Andover, as presented with the following revision: Under Section 4.05, Paragraph K,
change the word aluminum siding to metal siding. DISCUSSION: Mr. Hawkins stated
he was trying to except the person building a garage and puts on aluminum siding.
He felt there would be a difference between commercially prepared metal siding put on
sides of houses or garages as opposed to the pole barn type in which the metal is the
wall itself. Motion carried unanimously.
CEDAR CREST DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT/DISPOSITION
Mr. Hawkins stated that the development contract called for everything to be done by
October 1, 1980, but the bond is not posted and the abstract has not been provided
properly. Mr. Carson feels the City has lived up to all the requirements imposed on it
by the Court; and since the breach of the contract is on the developer, the City no
longer has an obligation to approve the final plat.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, to direct Mr. Carson to notify the developers
that the developer has defaulted on the contract and that we consider the plat null
and void. DISCUSSION: Horace Ma 0, 4920 Ewin Avenue South, Minnea olis - is one of
the co-owners of the Mayan eve opment partnersh1p an t e eve opers 0 Cedar Crest
Estates. He felt there has been a communications problem. They have been trying to
develop this property for over 10 years and have spent approximately $200,000 in it.
It is true that they have not furnished a ~ond, but he has a receipt that the abstract
was furnished on May 14, which is the fourth one they have taken to Mr. Hawkins. Mr.
Hawkins stated he has spoken with Mr. Banke about this on the phone. The abstract was
not complete, and he has discussed that with Mr. Banke today. It did not cover the
areas they were platting. Mr. Banke is aware of that and has not yet returned the
completed abstract.
Mr. Mayo - asked for the City's indulgence and hoped that they will be able to develop
the property. If they have to start over, they probably will. Motion carried
unanimously.
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SPECIAL USE PERMIT/RADEMACHER
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, approving a Special Use Permit for William
Rademacher to install a bulk storage facility and self-service gas pumps at Bill's
Superette in the Andover Community Shopping Center as presented by the City Clerk.
(See Resolution R132-80) Motion carried unanimously.
MOVING PERMIT/SIA
Kim Sai Sia, 11518 Zia Street, Coon Rapids - stated that Mr. Weaver is his consultant
who does a lot of draw1ngs for h1m. This is his first attempt at moving a house. He
is a landscape contractor and is moving the house for his manager to live in. There
has also been some confusion as to the number of feet that will need to be added to
bring it up to the footage required in an R-2 zone.
Council discussion was on their concerns that the house be brought up to code and
ordinance requirements. It was determined that the house is now 780 feet and would
have to be increased to 1200 square feet. Mr. Sia stated he would meet that requirement
and would have plans for the planned expansion to the City within a few days.
Mr. Hawkins stated that the City has the right to attach certain conditions on the
issuance of a moving permit to be sure the ordinances are complied with. It was his
recommendation to require a letter of credit or bond or cash in the amount that would
be required to start action to have the building removed from the City in the event
the ordinances are not met. Council also felt that the Building Inspector should
inspect the building before it is brought into the City.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, introducing a Resolution approving a Moving
Permit for Kim Sai Sia to move a home onto property described as Plat 65907, Parcel 3210
as proposed by the City Clerk with the following change: in the final BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED by the City Council, the City of Andover, to hereby make such approval con-
tingent upon the applicant furnishing the City with an affidavit secured by a Letter
of Credit or other surety in the amount of $4,000 indicating the structure, if moved
into the City of Andover, will comply with all zoning ordinances and building code
requirements within a 120-day period. (See Resolution R133-80) Motion carried
unanimously.
Recess at 9:05; reconvene at 9:15 p.m.
CABLE TV
The Clerk felt that the funds needed could come from the legal fees for ordinance
enforcement.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we authorize the expenditure of $1,292.35
to the Anoka/Champ1in/Ramsey/possib1y Andover Cable Commission for legal and organiza-
tional fees for our membership therein. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion was on the "Needs Assessment" questionnaire and how to conduct the survey.
After discussion, it was agreed to ask if the questionnaire could be brought home by
the children in Crooked Lake School.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we contact the Crooked Lake School in regards
to having the school children at the school bring home and have filled out and bring
back to the school the Andover Community Needs Assessment for the Cable TV service
area. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, authorizing the Mayor and Clerk to sign the
Joint Cooperative Agreement for the Anoka/Champ1in/Ramsey Cable Commission. Motion
carried unanimously.
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SELECTION OF CITY AUDITOR
Mayor Windschit1 reviewed the qualifications and bids received for City Auditor.
Discussion was then on the work that may be expected for the price quoted, some
expressing concern over the tight finances of the City and not wanting to increase the
auditing costs substantially, but noting that the George Hanson firm, which appears
to have a lot of municipal auditing experience, had not stated a specific amount, and
some questioning the advisability of changing auditing firms every few years.
Councilman Lachinski didn't feel the City should be spending as much as $7,500 for
auditing, when apparently there are other firms quoting to do the same thing for
$2,500. It was Mayor Windschit1's opinion that the firms with more qualifications and
municipal experience would do a better job for the money. Others felt that
the auditing costs should not go beyond last year's costs plus a 10 or 11 percent
inflationary factor.
.MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, that the City Clerk be authorized to enter into
a contractor for the City audit for 1980 with the George Hanson firm not to exceed
$5,500.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Orttel, Peach, Windschit1; NO-Lachinski
Motion carried.
DATE/BUDGET MEETING
Discussion was that prior to holding a budget meeting, the Council will need to discuss
whether or not to approve municipal liquor in the City. It was agreed to place this
item on the November 5 agenda and to set a meeting date at that time. The discussion
of municipal liquor is also to be placed on the next agenda.
DATE/INTERVIEW CONSULTANTS - ORDINANCE REVISION
Councilman Orttel didn't feel that the City should become involved with ordinance
revision until the Metro Council has reviewed the theory of the City's Comprehensive
Plan.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we direct the City Clerk to send a note to
each one of the bidders on redrafting the City ordinances explaining to them that until
the Metropolitan Council makes its comments and changes in our Comprehensive Plan,
we will not be starting the redrafting of our supporting ordinances, that we would
probably be asking them for an updated bid when that review is done which should be
around the first of the year. Motion carried unanimously.
ORDINANCE NO. 19 AMENDMENT/1979 UBC - 1980 STATE CODE AMENDMENTS
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, adopting an ordinance amending Ordinance 19C,
an Ordinance relating to the adoption of the Minnesota State Building Code. City
Council, City of Andover, hereby ordains all references to the 1976 State Building
Code in Ordinances No. 19, No. 19A, and No. 19B, as amended by Ordinance No. 19C,
are hereby amended to read: 1979 Minnesota State Building Code. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPOINTMENT/ADVISORY BOARD - COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, that the City Engineer, Larry Winner, be appointed
the Clty representative to the County CDBG Program. Motion carried unanimously.
PARK/RECREATION COMMISSION
Discussion was on the October 14, 1980, memo of the Park Board's request that grant
monies be placed in the Park Fund to earn interest. The Clerk stated that the money
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(Park/Recreation Commission, Continued)
is in the General Fund and is in an interest-bearing account. No action was taken
on this request.
Discussion was also on the accounting system of the Park Board, and similarly with
the Fire Department, in that those in the Departments are frustrated at not knowing
how much is left in their budgets at any given time. The Clerk stated that the City's
share of monies for capital improvements authorized the Park Board but which will not
be expended this year have been put into the 1981 budget over and above the City's normal
contribution to the Park Board. The Clerk was directed to be providing monthly financial
reports to the Departments. The Clerk stated that she had planned to provide monthly
reports for October, November, and December.
Discussion also continued feeling that in some fashion each Department is going to
have to keep their own records and to know what funds are committed, reviewing
the procedure used by the Fire Department for purchasing items, noting that purchase
orders are generally not used except in cases of large purchases because of the time
and staff that would be required.
VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT
Councilman Peach stated he felt that the monies allocated to the Fire Department for
the emergency lights for the Chief's vehicle and the wall for the fire fighter's gear
could come from the Attorney's budget, as $500 had been allocated for work for the
Fire Department and only $150 has been expended.
Fire Chief Bob Palmer stated he would like to have a separate meeting of the Council to
meet with the ISO representatives relative to the City's fire rating for insurance
purposes and how the City may qualify for better ratings.
Discussion was then on the requirement of having churches, schools, etc., tie directly
into Central Communications for fire protection; that there have been objections from
others as well as the Meadowcreek School but that some in the City have already
agreed to the system; that there apparently is only one other City in the State of
Minnesota which requires auto-call fire protection; that there may be a bill introduced
in the State Legislature that will require this in all schools; that the Fire Department
has been compromising the automatic call systems rather than requiring the installation
of a sprinkling system; that the City needs to sort out what is required by law and what
the City is requiring over and above it relative to fire protection; and that a fire
protection system should be placed in Meadowcreek School but that the issue of the
auto-call to Central Communications should not be used as a crutch for not putting
anything into the school. Mr. Hawkins stated that the City is charged with enforcing
the Fire Code, and the City interprets it in what is felt is a reasonable fashion. If
an interpretation is made and a requirement established, then the question becomes what
is the standard throughout the State. The City is entitled to require stricter codes,
but there must be something to back that up as well. Council generally felt that it
would be beneficial to meet with the State Fire Marshall and the City Fire Marshall on
the issue. Chief Palmer will set up a meeting and inform the City Clerk. If need be,
a special meeting can be called, and the meeting with the ISO representatives can be
done at the same time.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, that Checks Numbered 3480 through 3496 for a
total of $5,356.55 from the General Fund be approved. Motion carried unanimously.
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(Approval of Claims, Continued)
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that checks numbered 385 for $500; 386 for
$583.80; 387 for $285.18; 388 for $17.20; 398 for $2,485; 390 for $45.38; 391 for
$1,400; 392 for $4,235; 393 for $153,347.59; 394 for $802; 395 for $38,557.70; 396
for $1,500; 397 for $8.50; 398 for $8.50; 399 for $3,892.50; 400 for $13,465.38; and
401 for $130,707.25 be approved from the Special Funds. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Ortte1, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:45 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 10:46 p.m. by Mayor Jerry Windschit1 for discussion to
hire Dale Mashuga as a temporary employee to work on sewer maintenance. (Reference
the October 21, 1980, memo from Larry Winner referencing contractura1 help for cleaning
storm sewers.)
MOTION by Orttel. Seconded by Peach. that Dale Mashu9a be hired at the rate of $4.50
an hour to work on sewer maintenance for a period up to two weeks. Motion carried
unanimous 1y.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:47 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar 11a A. Peach
Record1ng Secretary
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