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~ o¡ ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ~ OCTOBER 2, 1979
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschitl on October 2, 1979, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Jacobson, Orttel, Peach
Councilman absent: Lachinski
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; City Engineer, John Davidson;
Planning and Zoning Commission Chairman, d'Arcy Bosell; City
Clerk, P. K. Lindquist; and others
Agenda Approval
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, that we accept the Agenda as published with
the addition of Item Se, 160th Lane; Item Sf, Stenquist Addition Change Order and
Partial Payment; and Item ga, Assessor's Contract. Motion carried unanimously.
Public Hearings - Junkyard License Denials
Mayor Windschitl called to order the Public Hearings on the denial of the junkyard
license applications for Anoka Auto Wrecking and Commercial Auto Parts.
Lorraine Jellison, representing Anoka Auto Wrecking, 1775 Bunker Lake Boulevard -
stated they have been fencing and have gotten quite a bit more done in the last six
weeks. She felt they had approximately 400 feet left to go on the west side,
approximately 500 feet left on the east side, plus across the back which is about 700
feet. Plus they have some poles set in. They are working on it. She felt that they
wouldn't be able to complete the fencing this fall because of the ground freezing
soon, but stated they would be able to complete it next summer. They have hired
extra men to work on it. They have quite a large area to fence, and they are not
adjoined with anyone to share fencing and costs, etc. They yard was also moved two
years ago this November.
Councilman Jacobson stated that unless the ordinance is enforced uniformly, there will
be problems with everyone else. He felt it would be more desirable to have a specific
date by which the fence would be completed. Mrs. Jellison again stated that they
cannot be working through the winter months.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Jacobson, that because C. Jellison of Anoka Auto Wrecking
has not completed his fencing in accordance with the Junkyard Ordinance, that the
request for permit be denied, and an order be issued to cease action as a junkyard
until the ordinance is complied with.
Discussion: The Clerk and Mrs. Jellison both stated that junk is not visible from
Bunker Lake Boulevard nor Hanson Boulevard, and that there is woods and the landfill
area behind the junkyard. Councilman Jacobson noted that the matter of natural
screening for junkyards was referred to the P & Z on September 18 for their considera-
tion. He questioned whether this denial should be tabled until the P & Z has forwarded
their recommendation. It was also noted that the Jellison's have had a year to complete
the fencing under the ordinance presently in existence. It was Councilman Jacobson's
feeling that if the P & Z comes with a recommendation to change the fencing to allow a
variance for natural screening of any kind, that this yard should be allowed to take
advantage of that provision as well as the other yards; and that denial of the license
at this time might be premature. After the recommendation, all yards can be considered
at once.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to table it until the P & Z comes back with a
recommendation on the natural screening of junkyards or a variance provision.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 2
(Public Hearings - Junkyard License Denials, Continued)
Discussion: It is the intent that the applicant would be allowed to continue to
operate until such time that that decision is made. The Attorney felt as long as all
junkyards are treated uniformly, which is what this is attempting to do, he didn't
feel the City is prejudicing its position.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, that we continue the Hearing for the Anoka
Auto Wrecking Junkyard License until such time as the Planning and Zoning Commission
returns on their deliberations on a variance procedure to the standards of the
Junkyard Ordinance.
Discussion: Chairman Bosell stated that this matter is on their October 9 Agenda. If
a recommendation is made at that meeting, it will be back on the Council Agenda on
November 6. Attorney Hawkins stated that the applicant is entitled to have a decision
as to the request this evening. Ms. Jellison was agreeable to continuing the Hearing
until there is a recommendation from the Planning Commission, as it would give them
more time to be working on their fence. Mayor Windschitl explained if the Planning
Commission recommendation is to allow the use of the trees or natural topography for
screening and it doesn't fit their requirement, it makes it very difficult for the
Council to allow the operation to continue, as many of the other yards have complied
with the Ordinance. It would be to Ms. Jellison's advantage to get the work done or
make a commitment as to a specific date for completion.
Councilmen Jacobson and Peach WITHDREW the Second and the Motion for denial of the
application.
Councilmen Orttel and Jacobson WITHDREW the Second and the Motion to table the motion.
VOTE ON MOTION TO CONTINUE HEARING: Carried unanimously.
IrVin¡ Shaw, Attorney, 2706 West Gannon Boulevard, St. Paul, represented Mr. Charles
Mlste ske, owner of Commercial Auto Parts. Mr. Shaw stated that the general llabl lty
lnsurance has been in effect, but there has been some confusion with the insurance
agent. Mr. Mistelske is insured by Northland Insurance Agency. Mr. Shaw will have
proof of the coverage to the City Clerk tomorrow to satisfy the Council that the
insurance has been in effect at all times.
Mr. Shaw also explained that Commercial Auto Parts fronts on Jay Street and is bordered
on the north by Wilber Auto Parts, on the south by Andover Auto Parts, and in the back
by Cecil Heidelberger. Wilber's, Commercial Auto, and Andover Auto all consist of
approximately 10 acres of land each. This year, to comply with City Ordinance, Mr.
Mistelske built a new building located on the front of the acreage on Jay Street. He
has also been carrying on the fencing project. About 2/3 of the total area is now
fenced. Also, a good portion is screened with trees planted in front. There is
approximately 1300 feet along each side line going west and the front that is already
fenced. There is no way that any portion of Commercial Auto Parts can be seen from
any road. In the rear is a large stack of tires on Heidelberger's property. There
is also a large rise of the land to the rear. Mr. Shaw also explained that Mr. Mistelske
has been having trouble obtaining fence posts, plus the financial problems because of
the construction of the new building. He will complete the fencing as fast as he can,
but it was his estimate that he can't finish it until the spring. Originally, when
Mr. Mistelske was in partnership with Mr. Shernell, there was a four-year plan to
complete the fencing , and this is the third or fourth year of that plan.
Mr. Mistelske explained that the junkyard was split into two five-acre sections. The
front five acres is completely fenced including an 8-foot fence actually dividing the
yard across the center. ~ uses approximately 1/3 of the second five acres to store
cars at the present time. Mayor Windschitl stated that at the previous meeting the
Regular City Council Meeting
October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 3
(Public Hearings - Junkyard License Denials, Continued)
question of using the tires for screening did not receive a favorable reaction from
the Council. The topography question or enbankment is what will be addressed by the
Planning Commission. Mr. Shaw asked that that area be viewed by City personnel, as
he felt it is going to be difficult to build a fence on that particular area. Mayor
Windschitl stated that this question can be continued as well, but if this particular
yard does not comply with a Planning Commission recommendation, the Council must again
address uniformly enforcing the ordinance with everyone. He stated that the Building
Inspector will view the yard and make a report on the individual yards. The Planning
Commission can have the benefit of that report when they make their deliberations.
Mr. Mistelske also explained that he is building the sideyard fences in cooperation
with the adjoining junkyard owners. They had no objections to continuing the Hearing.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, that the Public Hearing on Commercial Auto Parts
be continued until the first meeting in November when some recommendation be had
from the P & Z. Motion carried unanimously.
Public Hearings continued to the November 6 Regular City Council Meeting. 8:07 p.m.
League of Minnesota Cities - General Discussion
Donald A. Slater, Executive Director, and Duke Addicks, Legislative Counsel, represented
the League of Minnesota Clties.
Mayor Windschitl explained the major concern of the City has been the State Aid law
and how if affects Andover and various other communities in the area. Preliminary
information shows that the City is probably worse off with the new bill than with the
old one basically because of the 20 percent limitation factor, and especially as it
relates to population growth. And it makes it practically impossible to ever get back
to any type of fiscal parity with other cities our size that were in under the old
formula. Also, there is a disparity in comparing mill levies between cities, as Andover
does not have any general indebtedness for improvements calculated in the mill levy
as does the more established cities. The Mayor also stated that there has been sentiment
that the position of the League has been counterproductive to the City's purposes.
He asked if there is any hope that the League could be trying to get a technical
amendment to help some of us out.
Mr. Slater reviewed the League's organization, which serves as a legislative representa-
tion unit, as a policy development organization, and as a clearing house and research
organization for those member cities. He explained their policies are developed
through a committee process, with five standing committees which are made up principally
of elected officials from member cities. Mr. Slater reviewed the process the League
went through to establish their policy on the State Aid issue this previous legislative
session, noting how information was obtained and the recommendation proposed by the
Revenue Committee and its subcommittee, which is basically the same procedure used on
all League questions. The general membership votes on the recommendation, which
becomes policy if approved. The Board of Directors does have the authority to look
at new situations which are not covered in the policy or make new policy where there
may be some doubt. The policy governs the League for a two-year cycle. The process
for getting appointed to the various committees is beginning now and the question bnòthe
State Aid formula will be under review in this process, and the question of whether or
not there might be modifications of the existing Statute. The Legislature provided
that there be some study of the State Aid system, and the League is going to have some
input into that study. Concerns of the Cities should be made known to the Research
Staff. The Governor is also committed to an evaluation of local government finance and
will be in touch with the League and cities directly. So the present State Aid policy
will be reviewed and in all probability some changes made.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 4
(League of Minnesota Cities ~ General Discussion, Continued)
Mr. Addicks explained that this is the first time the League had ever taken a position
on the State Aid formula. Before that time the formula was specifically designed to
benefit Minneapolis and St. Paul. This last session, the Legislature indicated that
they were not going to stop that benefit but would look for a new formula. So the
League had not really looked at that until they were requested by the Legislature to
do so late last year. It was intended that the formula would be for two years and would
be reviewed after that time. Clearly the formula fails to help Andover as much as
would be liked, and he felt that is something they will have to look at. He doubted
that there would be a change this next year, but felt changes would be considered in
the next legislative session, 1981, as normally tax matters are considered every other
year. But the League will look at the formula again through the normal Committee
process. He didn't feel there would be a permanent formula but one that would change
every two years and was hopeful it would benefit Andover in the future.
Mayor Windschitl stated he would be interested in serving on the Committee. Discussion
between League representatives and the Council elaborated on the disparity in the State
Aid formula as it relates to Andover, with the Council requesting some help from the
League to try to remove some of the inequity that exists in the present formula. Mr.
Addicks will submit the Mayor's name to serve on the Committee. Mr. Slater also
explained that the Metro City Association is separate from the League in that it has
its own Board of Directors, committee systems, and does develop policies; but they are
both bound that they cannot conflict on matters that concern the welfare of cities.
He also presented a tabulation indicating what services are available from the League.
Vacation of Street/Sonsteby
Parties present were Rosella Sonsteby, 4151 141st Avenue NW, Anoka; Gabriel Giancola,
Law er, 3700 Central Avenue NW, Columbla Hei 55421, and Jeffrey Johnson, Lawyer
rom t e same aw lrm, bot representlng Mr. agen. Mrs. Hagen, 14234 Round
Lake Boulevard, was also present. P & Z Chairman Bosell explained that this is the third time the Planning Commission
looked at this particular issue of the vacation of the road easement on property owned
by Mrs. Sonsteby located just west of State Aid No.9 and south of 143rd Avenue NW.
The Commission determined that there was no specific benefit for the City for the release
of this easement; therefore they recommended the easement vacation be denied because
it is an existing easement of record, on the fact that the building permit was issued
for a garage which faces the easement, vacation of the easement would not allow ingress
or egress for the Hagen family for the use of the garage, that it would not benefit
the public; there was a public hearing held and opposition was posed to the vacation.
She stated it is unfortunate that it needs to be before the Council as the situation
appears to be a multiplication of errors.
Ms. Sonsteby stated there has been misrepresentation regarding this 33-foot easement,
and she read Minutes of the Grow Township Board from April to December, 1941, which
she interpreted to say that the easement was accepted for the George Houston cartway
only. She showed a Hoium survey map dated January 5, 1973, on which she indicated that
the easement does not come all the way out to Round Lake Boulevard. She owns a strip
that she has deeded into the lots that she has sold on Round Lake Boulevard. She
purchased the Hoosline lot and is referring to what is in front of her 79 feet and the
33 feet that is deeded into that lot. Ms. Sonsteby then read a description of the
property. In her opinion that road easement to ingress and egress with no parking
whatsoever does not exist any more since it is not used to get back to the George
Houston property and has not for many years. She then read a statement from a law book
On how easements are terminated and applied it to this case feeling the easement was put
in for a George Houston cartway which no longer exists; therefore, the easement should
Regular City Council Meeting
October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 5
(Vacation of Street/Sonsteby, Continued)
be terminated. She stated she wants to build a house on that particular piece of
property. Ms. Sonsteby also read from the City Council Minutes of April 4, 1978, in
which she interpreted the Attorney's statement that the easement cannot be used because
it is not built according to City ordinance and cannot be used as a public road.
She further argued that the City had no right to issue a building permit for the Hagen
garage in 1975; that the garage itself is not built according to Ordinance 8, 4.0Sc;
and that Judge Larson did not give them the right to trespass over that strip of land.
Ms. Sonsteby admitted that this is the third time she is before the Council for vacation
of that easement; it has no public access; felt she had cause of action for criminal
trespass; and showed an aerial map dated 1965 and 1971 showing the Hagens coming in
from the front of their lot facing Round Lake Boulevard. It was after she bought the
property from Steffenson that the Hagens fenced the front. She also read a portion
of the transcript in the last court case and Judge Larson's comments from the first
court case, with the intent of proving that the road was not used 15 years by the
Hagens. Ms. Sonsteby also presented pictures which she stated was of her easement, on
her property, and on the Hoosline lot. Ms. Sonsteby also read part of Mr. Giancola's
brief into the Supreme Court relating to her owning land on all sides of the Hagens,
in which she argued the Hoium survey of January 5, 1973, and the legals (which she read
to the Council) presented into the court as evidence indicates that the Hagens do own
the front of their property. She felt that she has presented evidence that the Hagens
do have other accesses to their property up to the time she bought the property from
Steffenson.
Mr. Giancola said that all of this information has been presented to the court. There
was clearly established that the easement was in use and that the use had been there
for at least 15 years prior to when Mrs. Sonsteby purchased the property in 1971.
He stated that they believed Mrs. Sonsteby is trying to landlock the Hagens by indicating
the sliver between the east edge of the Hagen property and the west edge of County
Road #9 is a piece of property which she owns. He also stated that the County of Anoka
intends to widen County Road #9, and he read from a letter addressed to him by the
County's Chief Right-of-Way Agent, Ralph Kishel, which indicates in accordance with
a telephone conversation of June 19, 1979, Mr. Kishel is furnishing Mr. Giancola a
zerox print of a portion of Anoka County Highway right-of-way plat No. 14 and that it
is the intent of the Anoka County Highway Department to acquire the right of way shown
as platted and numbered, including Parcel 19A, which is a remnant of land which,
according to records and as near as can be ascertained, belongs to the Estate of Elijah
Rogers, with the last entry in the County Recorder's office dated 1865. The County
will acquire that particular parcel through eminent domain proceedings listing the
Estate of Elijah Rogers as fee owner and Rosella Sonsteby as claimant of an interest
by virtue of a Quit Claim deed. M9 '~Aancola went on to explained that his firm has
obtained Quit Claim deeds from 22/ fl e Elijah Rogers Estate, and he believed some
have these deeds have been filed with the County. Mr. Giancola stated that the arguments
presented by Mrs. Sonsteby is in the courts and before the Supreme Court. There is
an easement there for right-of-way purposes; there is a right of ingress and egress
over the 10.89-foot strip. When the garage was placed there, an application was made
to the City of Andover and granted and laid out by M~ Arntzen. Both Hearings have
been adverse to Mrs. Sonsteby, and she has appealed the second case which is before
the Supreme Court at present.
Mr. Johnson addressed the issue raised by Mrs. Sonsteby that Judge Larson concluded
that there was an easement by adverse possession, which is continued use of an easement
for greater than 15 years. That being the case, the underlying fee owners of that small
sliver of land is really irrelevant. Because with the adverse possession determination,
that easement exists no matter who the fee owner is or whether or not the fee owner
granted the right to that easement. Mr. Johnson went on to explain they did research
with the County Recorder's office to determine heirs of Elijah Rogers and have located
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October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 6
(Vacation of Street/Sonsteby, Continued)
approximately 22 heirs and have sent and received Quit Claim deeds to this small
piece of land.
Mrs. Hagen stated when they moved there, there was a double garage facing #9, but there
was no way to get behind their house with anything with four wheels except via the
easement. And they have always used the tractor to get behind the house.
David Jabloni~ 14269 Woodbine Street NW - stated they have property in the rear
off Woodbine treet and asked how far the easement goes toward Woodbine. He now lives
on a cul de sac and doesn't look forward to any traffic nor a road through there.
There are many motorbikes running through there now. (It was determined by the Council
that the easement extends westward to the 40 line between 200 to 300 feet south of the
end of Woodbine Street.)
Ms. Sonsteby stated the reason she read the legals from Mr. Hoium in 1973 was as
evidence that they (Hagens) owned the front of their property. And she is not trying
to get any land in front of the Hagen's property. All her property is in front of
the 33-foot easement and now a 10-foot strip between the Hagen property and the road
easement. All her land from Steffenson's deeds to the middle of Round Lake Boulevard.
Mrs. Hagen stated the aerial map showing that they had access to the back of their
house from Round Lake Boulevard shows that the attached garage had already been torn
down. They could not build the new garage until after the court case and Judge's
decision. Mr. Giancola stated there just isn't any way of policing the cars, visitors,
etc., for Hagen or other purposes. They have no objections of the area being policed,
and related incidences where the Hagens have made an honest effort to keep cars off
the easement.
Council discussion was that basically nothing has materially changed:since the last
time this was before the Council except the question of the sliver of land and that
the Council is addressing the easement that exists. Attorney Hawkins stated the only
issue before the Council is whether or not there is any public purpose in vacating
that easement. Is any public purpose being served by vacating it or is it something
that potentially will be used in the future. The question of the strip of land has
nothing to do with the Council action.
Harr{ MOberg, 14279 Woodbine - would like to have the easement lifted for the purpose
of a 1 the motorcycles, snowmobiles, etc., that come down past his property from off
that easement. He explained the problems he's been having relative to this nuisance.
Discussion of Council indicated that it would probably still be used whether it was
dedicated easement or not; that by using this easement, they have to come across
private property to get to Woodbine. The Mayor suggested the Sheriff Patrol come into
that area with a saturation patrol to see if we can be of assistance on Woodbine.
Mr. Jablonic - after seeing the layout of the easement, he wanted to go on record
as objecting to the end of that easement. He would have no objection to the front
part of the access, but the rear end does come close enough to Woodbine to have people
coming through on Woodbine, which he objects to.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Jacobson, that the City of Andover deny the vacation,
legal description identified by the recommendations from the Planning and Zoning
Commission. The reasons are: There is an existing easement of record prior to the
time of Mrs. Sonsteby's acquisition of the property; the Andover Building Department
granted a building permit for a garage which faces the said 33-foot easement; the
rights of Mr. and Mrs. Hagen, who reside exactly south of the 10.89 feet, would be
jeopardized with the vacation of said easement, that is the right to ingress and egress
over the 10.89 feet; the civil action in 1974 in the court ruled in favor of Mr. and
Mrs. Hagen granting them prescriptive easement rights over said 10.89 feet; the natural
development of the property the City would use for potential use of the future road;
and there is no public interest that would be advanced by the vacation. (See Resolution
R84-9) Motion carried unanimously.
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October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 7
Recess at 9:22; reconvene at 9:37 p.m.
Acceptance of Easement - Gengler
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, that the City accept the easement for drainage
and utility purposes from Paul Gengler and Nickola Gengler, husband and wife, as
described on the Quit Claim Deed presented to the City on October 2. Discussion:
Attorney Hawkins stated that this is a temporary easement as that is all the Gengler's
were willing to give at this time. Motion carried unanimously.
Certification to County Auditor
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, a Resolution certifying to the County Auditor
tor collection of the unpaid sewer charges; City Council of the City of Andover hereby
resolves, pursuant to City Resolution the following charge is hereby certified to
County Auditor tö'be placed on the taxrolls and collected with the 1980 taxes if not
paid by October 10, 1979, pursuant to Lot 9, Block 2, Northwoods Addition, G. Koleber,
$237.88. The above charge represents the cost paid by the City of Andover for the
connection of the sanitary sewer to service the residence plus 6~ percent interest.
Adopted by the City Council this Second day of October, 1979. (See Resolution R8S-9)
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, entering a Resolution certifying to the County
Audltor for collection of the unpaid sewer user charges; City of Andover hereby
resolves pursuant to City Ordinance 32 the following charges are certified to the
County Auditor to be placed on the taxrolls and collected with the 1980 taxes if they
remain unpaid by October 10, 1979, with the list attached to the Resolution being those
unpaid items; and that the above charges represent the sewer user charges, 15 percent
administrative costs for certification, and 8 percent interest. Adopted by the City
Council this Second day of October, 1979. (See Resolution R86-9) Motion carried
unanimously.
City Auditor - Discussion
Bob Davis of Olsen,Thielen, and Company, explained the increase of the City's bill was
due mainly to the lncrease of services, which include special funds, capital project
funds, special assessment funds, establishment of a fire department, convert from a
cash basis general ledger to accrual basis financial statements; some problems with
the Prairie Road Improvement; and the financial statement presentation change recommended
by the State Auditor,in that the financial statements should be prepared in an over-
view- type format. They put those statements on as of 12/31/78 and will not be an
additional cost in 1979. Their increase was due mainly to the increase in funds and
the change in the report. They anticipated the 1979 audit cost to be approximately
the same, $4,900 based on 160 hours at an average rate of $27.50 an hour including
write-off hours. Last year's hours of 201 hours equated to approximately $23.80 per
hour. He anticipated the City preparing more schedules for them and doing more work
at the City itself this year to hold down their costs.
Discussion was on some confusion as to the actual cost of the Auditor's billing, as
Mr. Davis' record indicated a cost of $4,900 and the Clerk's records indicated a billing
of $5,200. Mr. Davis and the Clerk were to review their records further. Mr. Davis
estimated if the City prepared more schedules for them, that it would be approximately
a 30-hour reduction in their time. The Mayor stated it would be helpful if the Council
could receive a breakout of pure audit hours and the additional hours billed for special
services. Mr. Davis felt they could give a fair estimate of it by the next meeting.
He also stated they would like to meet with either the Finance Committee or the Council
as early as possible after the audit report is completed. The Mayor felt it would be
appropriate for the full Council to schedule a meeting with the Auditors.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 8
(City Auditor - Discussion, Continued)
In response to a question from Councilman Peach, Mr. Davis felt that if the City used
data processing equipment, auditing could be easier or it could be very much more
difficult, depending on the type of records and what is put on data processing. It
would normally increase the audit bill because the internal controls need to be
reviewed, etc.
160th Lane, Stenquist Addition
Bill Lewis, North Branch, MN, represented Northern Natural Gas Company.
Mr. Davidson explained that there was a pre-existing easement for Northern Natural gas
line along the south right-of-way line along 160th for 1,500 feet. The design for
160th was adjusted by the Council previously to eliminate the ditching over this
line. The pipe is located approximately 15 feet south of the birm on the street.
Northern Natural was invited to the pre-construction conference and were aware of the
City's plans. They have now come back and asked that the City provide an Encroachment
Agreement basically that would state that they would not be responsible for damage to
their facility as a result of the street construction nor would they be responsible
for replacement of the street if they would have to come back at some later date to
work on the existing pipeline or add another pipeline within their dedicated easement.
He felt that they can adjust the street grades to provide the gas company with their
minimum (3 feet) and maximum (5 feet) coverage of the line.
Mr. Lewis explained that the line is 15 to 16 feet south of 160th on the west end and
angles to about 8 feet from the bituminous on the east end. He stated this is a problem
because they have a maintenance easement and during emergency repair or pipeline in-
spection, their heavy machinery can tear up the blacktop in uncovering of the line, etc.,
because they do not have the working area to properly maintain the pipeline. The line
is a high-pressure transmission line with 30 feet of maintenance easement on either side
of it.
On the question of the blacktop carrying a gas leak, Mr. Lewis explained that should
a leak develop in the pipe, the gas will find the easiest way out, which is not
necessarily up. An easy path would be under the blacktop and follow under it until
it found a place to rise up and out of the blacktop on the other side, quite often it
will come up under a driveway. The maximum allowable pressure on that line is 885 pounds,
and most of the distribution in residential areas is 40 pounds. Normally a pipline
leak with that kind of pressure does raise the ground. The Mayor stated it is trouble-
some the way this is written. The City is not blacktopping over the pipeline at all.
Mr. Davidson stated that in this case the street would be compacted to greater density
than the material adjacent to the pipeline, so perhaps that would be less of a possibility.
Council discussion continued on whether or not the blacktopping of the street should
be eliminated, whether the proposed encroachment agreement should be agreed to, or
whether some compromise can be worked out. Council was also troubled as to why
such large equipment would be required to expose a six-inch pipe which is only three-
to five-feet deep; that these roads were put in with the full knowledge of the gas
company quite some time ago and allowed to exist; if these things would have been
known in the earlier stages of the construction project, the Engineers might have
been able to design something to offset the street or look at different possibilities.
Mr. Lewis explained that they did not receive requested plans of the project and still
don't have the plans. He appealed for proper planning before a contractor begins a
project to avoid possible accidents, citing two incidences in the City when contractors
began work prior to their knowledge which could have resulted in a serious accident.
Mr. Davidson was lead to believe that they were notified of the project and wasn't
aware that plans were not sent to them. He will check on this further.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 2, 1979 - Minutes
Page 9
(160th Lane, Stenquist Addition, Continued)
Council generally agreed that 160th should be blacktopped along with the rest of the
project. The problem that evolved is that the contractor will be ready to begin black-
topping next Wednesday, but Mr. Lewis stated that their Land and Right-of-Way man is
out of town and will not be able to provide the City Attorney with a copy of the
Encroachment Agreement until next Tuesday. Mr. Lewis also stated that without that
Agreement, the Company would take steps to halt the blacktopping of that road.
Attorney Hawkins argued that the City is not depriving the Company from the use of
their easement as blacktop is not being placed over the pipeline along 160th, and he
felt it would be unreasonable for them to stop the blacktopping. We are encroaching
on the easement, but it doesn't in any way affect the current use of that. It may
affect the upcoming maintenance of the line, but it wouldn't deny them the use of that
easement. He also wondered about the legality and necessity of this Agreement. Mr.
Lewis stated he would try to contact their Right-of-Way man tomorrow, and Mr. Davidson
felt they could work around 160th and do the street last.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, to refer the whole matter regarding the
necessity of an Encroachment Agreement with the Northern Natural Gas Company to the
City Attorney for his review; and if necessary, that the City Attorney present a
completed Encroachment Agreement to the City. Also authorize the Mayor and Clerk to
enter into any such agreement the Attorney prepares. Motion carried unanimously.
Stenquist Addition Change Order and Partial Payment
Mr. Davidson reviewed the change order for changes made in the design of the project
(as per the September 24, 1979, Council Meeting at the Stenquist Addition project site)
including some unit cost revisions requested by the contractor because of those changes.
Joe LaCasse- 6474 20th Avenue South, Hugo, MN, contractor - indicated that a certain
portion of his overhead costs and operating costs were lncluded in the culvert portion,
which was a substantial part of the work. He has already purchased the culverts and
had them delivered to the job. He felt there should be some compensation for returning
those culverts plus for those culverts that were removed and relocated. There is a 20
percent rehandling charge for returning the culverts. And he felt the simplest way to
work it in was to get a flat $4.50 increase in the per foot culvert price, which covers
all culverts removed, re-installed, etc. The lineal feet of culvert on the project
was reduced from 1620 feet to 585 feet.
The Attorney felt that with the reduction in the overall project cost the City would
still be within the five percent legal bonding limit.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, that on the Stenquist Addition Improvement
project, to credit the contract by the following: Excavation, 24,268 cubic yards at
$1.10 a cubic yard for a total price of $26,694.80; and lS-inch culverts, 1620 linear
feet at $14.80 a linear foot for a total amount of $23,976; the total credit being
$50,670. And increase the contract by the following revised quantities and unit prices:
15,225 cubic yards of common excavation at $2.15 a cubic yard for a total of $32,733.75;
and 585 linear feet of culvert at $19.30 a linear foot for a total price of $11,290.50;
total add-on being $44,024.25. Revise total contract price being $201,400.45. Motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. Davidson recommended partial payment to the Contractor in the amount of $36,328.09,
which will be processed with Claims this evening.
Crooked Lake Advisory Council
Jim Stewart, Nancy Hagman, plus other members of the Advisory Council were present.
Ms. Hagman presented copies of the attendance at the 1979 summer school program and
reviewed those figures, indicating that over the previous year the daily average
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attendance had tripled. Over all, approximately 700 students participated in activities
at one time or another which also includes some duplicates. Mr. Stewart explained
that this was the second summer that there was a full-time employee, and the
enrollment is significant over the previous year. He also stated the number of eligible
students in Andover Grades K through 6 is about 1,900.
Councilman Jacobson explained that in reviewing the budget, a majority of the Council
voted to cancel the summer school program because they were looking at some very severe
budget constraints. He asked about the City's commitment to fulfill the contract with
the school district. Mr. Stewart explained the City's contract with Ms. Hagman is on
a January to January basis. If the Council's decision would stand and because Ms.
Hagman is a 12-month employee, he would have to try to assign her to another community
school, as there wouldn't be any need to have a 12-month person at Crooked Lake, and
a 10-month coordinator would be assigned instead. No part of Ms. Hagman's salary was
included in the $6,100 that the Council deleted from the 1980 budget under Summer
School Program. Mr. Stewart felt there were some alternatives he would like to
present to the Council regarding the Summer School Program. He stated that from a
planning position, it would be desirable to know whether or not there would be funding
for the 1980 summer school proqram bv January; but for staffinq purposes, they would
like a decision from the City soon. The Mavor felt it would be reasonable for Mr.
Stewart to present alternate proposals. as the formal budaet has not yet been adopted:
and it was felt that the budqet would be discussed again at the October 16 regular
meeting.
Park/Recreation Commission
Park Board Chairman Wes Mand explained that in the Lake Ridge plat, they would like
the $3,500 park dedication fees generated to be used within that plat; and he requested
Engineer input on grading plans for the park, especially building up a sliding hill on
one end using the excess material.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, that the Park Commission arrange slope designs
for sliding area in the Park in Lake Ridge with the City Engineer. Motion carried
unanimously.
Mr. Mand explained that in the Lake Ridge Park area another large area would make good
ballfields; and his thought was that if the slopes adjacent to the fields were terraced,
a natural amphitheater could be created. He requested input from the Engineers as to
its feasibility, how to avoid erosion, etc.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, to authorize the Park Board to meet with the
Clty Engineer as to the feasibility of the construction of natural terraced bleachers
or slopes around the future playing field in the Lake Ridge Park. Motion carried
unanimously.
The question of reimbursing Chairman Mand for time missed from work to attend meetings
on behalf of the Park Board was referred to the Personnel Committee to make a
recommendation, suggesting if it is going to be a policy for one Commission, it should
apply to all Commissions as well.
Volunteer Fire Department
Fire Chief Bob Palmer stated that they will not be conducting the burning of brush as
was requested at previous meetings.
Chief Palmer explained that in the repair of the six-wheel drive truck, a problem has
been discovered; and they believe the exhaust manifold is warped. He didn't know what
the cost would be to repair it, and Mr. Lindeen has asked for an additional $30 to do
the additional repair on the truck.
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MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, that we authorize the Fire Department to repair
the exhaust manifold on the 6x6 and authorize an extra $30 to Rich Lindeen for
additional time spent on repairing the motor. Motion carried unanimously.
Chief Palmer asked the Attorney on whether or not churches are exempt from inspection
by the Fire Marshall. He related some problems they have encountered with the Meadow-
creek Baptist Church. The Attorney will investigate this furtaer.
Assessor's Contract
Attorney Hawkins reviewed the changes he had made to the Assessor's Contract as there
was some conflicting statements about the termination of the contract. He added a
provision so there would be no misunderstanding that the City could terminate the
contract at any time as long as notice was given the prior year.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, that the Council authorize the Mayor and City
Clerk to sign the amended contract for the City Assessor with the County of Anoka.
Motion carried unanimously.
League of Minnesota Cities Regional Meeting
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, that the City Council authorize the City
Council, the Mayor, and the City Clerk to attend the League of Minnesota Cities
meeting October 25 should they desire. Motion carried unanimously.
Approval of Claims
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, that the following checks be paid: Number 2715
through 2732 excluding Check No. 2731 for a total of $12,638.92 (that includes Check
2627 to League of Minnesota Cities for dues as well). Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Jacobson, that Check 2731 for Charles Lund for a total of
$3,637.20 be approved subject to an affirmative recommendation from the Park Board and
inspection by the Public Works Department. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, that the following Improvement Funds be paid:
1978-2 for a total of $7,633.30; Prairie Road Bridge Approaches for a total of $8,955.71;
and MS Bridges for a total of $14,422.99; Check Numbers 299 through 312. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, that Lino Lakes Contracting be paid $36,328.09 as
preliminary partial payment on their Stenquist Addition project. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:46 p.m.
Respectfully sUbm~~
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Ma lla A. Peach
Recording Secretary