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CEDA."I CIESK ESTATES/CEDAR HILLS ESTATES PUBLIC HEARI!:G - !IAY 15, 1978
MInUTES
Pursuant to notice published thereof, a Public Hearing on the proposed construction of
street and storm sewer improvement to serve Cedar Creek Estates and Cedar River· Hills ~GtateG
was called to order by !1ayor Jerry Windschitl on May 15, 1978, 7:33 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstovm Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
~ouncilpersons Present: Lachinski, McClure, Orttel, Vanderlaan
CouncilTIersons absent: None
Also Present: City Attorney, E. p. Babcock; City Engineer, D" R. Kasma;
Engineer Chuck ~etzler; City Clerk, p. K. Lindquist; and
interested residents.
!~. Kasma showed sketches of the area, reviewed the proposed project as explained in the
informational letter sent to residents involved in the ~roject and described the area
origina lly, petitioned for and the area recommended to be included in the project, noting
that the ~roject could be reduced to a much smaller project if the Council so desires. He
also reviewed the street costs for both the expanded and reduced projects and if the project
is done with bituminous birm or concrete curb and gutters. He recommended that the
assessments for both streets and storm sewers be done on a front-footage basis giving
credit for corner lots and odd-shaped lots to equalize the payments. The proposed financing
on a 20-year bond at 7~ percent interest for the expanded project would be $178 a year for
bituminous birm and $234 a year for concrete curb and gutters on a typical lOa-foot lot.
The project is estimated to be completed by October 1, 1978.
Mayor Windschitl stated there has been no action by the City to allow the park in that
area to be used as a storm drainage pond. !~. Kasms stated if that is tie Council's
decision and if the project goes ahead, they will look at that and there may be some cost
deferment on oversizing the pipe to the river. It would be a nominal cost, as the proposed
storm drainage are all l2-inch minimum pipe size, and those people should not be paying
for the oversizing. If the cost for oversizing the pipe to the river gets to be substantial,
the assessment policy provides for assessing the open acreage for the oversizing of
trunks. Mr. Kasma stated that Springsted, the financial consulting firm, is feeling that
the bond issue could be 6~ percent; but because the bond market is changing daily, they
want to be conservative. Quoting 7~ percent interest is showing the residents the worst
conditions. Snringsted also feels that 15 years should be maximum for bituminous birm
streets. He also felt he would recommend 15 years financing if bituminous birm is ordered
in the nroject. He also considers this project permanent streeb3 whether it is concrete
curb or bituminous birm; although if the people don't want concrete curb, a higher
bituminous curb would have to be put in to channel the water through the section with
draina~e problems; costs would be coveréd in the 10 percent contingencies.
Hr.. Kasma also noted it would not have a detrimental affect on the project if the Council
chose to scale down the project to l75th ~·'\ve. The project may have to go one lot beyond
l75th so that it doesn't end in the middle of a person's lot. It would be worked out so
these people would have a free-standing project.
HOTIn>1 by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the portion of the Cedar River Hills Estates
and Ged~r Crest Est~tes storm sewer ~nd street project 300 feet north of l75th Avenue WN
be deleted from consider~tion. Discussion: Mr, Kasma noted the project must begin at
the top of the hill to prevent sand washing dovm the street. Councilperson VanderLaan
noted this was not part of the ori~inally petitioned portion of the project and that as
reported in a report from TKDA M~y 15, 1978, cost to the origin~lly petitioned property
Owners is substantially reduced if the project is reduced. Motion carried unani~ously.
Testi~ony was then open to the public.
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Al Putz, 172lh Aztec Street !~~ - lives just south of 172nd Lane and felt ~1,000 was an
unreasonable charge for storm water drainage when he didn't believe he was getting any
benefit from it. }~. Kasma rexplained that everyone south of 172nd is no longer involved
in the 1J1"'oject. The larger areas was originally contacted because it wasn't known who was
~oin~ to be involved. If the Council proceeds tonight on a policy of assessing on a fron~
foota~e basis for both the streets and storm sewer, only the property abutting 173rd
and l74th and that piece of Blackfoot and Aztec and Xenia is going to be affected. He
also ex~lained the difference in assessing storm water drainage on a square footage basis
versus a front-footaRe basis.
Paluh Kishel, 3934 l73rd I~ne - felt part of the project is good for the critical areas bd
could see no benefit to him for blacktopping l73rd as it won't increase the value of his
home to the amount he would have to pay in assessments. He didn't think anybody was informed
when the ~etition came around that they would be assessed for part of the storm sewer
whether it helþed you out or not. He didn't feel the cost should be spread over the
project to those people who don't need blacktop or storm sewers. He proposed putting Claæ 5
gravel in that area at $450 per a 300-foot lot with oil on it every other year and it
wouldn't be so costly. He also felt 32-foot wide streets were not necessary in that
area and questioned why 173rd Lane west of Tulip, which is the main route through the
area, is not maintained. !æ. Kasma stated they have the right to petition for Class 5
gravel, but the City is not going to put oil on it for dust control because it is only a
temporary situation and it gets ruts in it which needs to be bladed up. The City's posit2on
is if you want a street done, they will do it right and charge you for it.
Kay Habeck, 3731 l72nd Lane WN - stated the pond is in their back yard and they ovm part
of it. She felt if all the area of storm drainage is drained into it, the pond is going
to flood them out because it is high now and there is only one little culvert under their
road. Hr. Kasma stated no new area is going to be added that will be draining into that
pond. The same amount of water is going in, although it may be corning in at a faster rate.
Future consideration would be to dredge it out so the pond could hold more water. If
the ~eo~le from l72nd want to use that pond, an outlet could be put in so the water can
run out, which is the future intent. If the project goes ahead, they will do a final
design on the pond and the intent is to have an overflow so tbat it will only reach a
certain level and then go out to the south. He is also aware of the Council's concerns
that only uublic property is used for the pond. Work that needs to be done to keep the
water off private urouerty would be covered under the 10 percent contingencies.
Kenneth West. 3850 173rd Lane - stated that to his knowledge none of the people on l73rd
that are against this project have their blocks colored in on the map representing resident
'T)reference. He requested his lot be marked in opposition to the project.
As there were other residents who also wished to have their choice known or changed, a
recess was called at 8:34; reconvened at 8:50 p.m.
Horace Hayo. co-owner of Hayban development - has two or three lots not sold in the 1st
and 2nd Additions plus a contract for deed on 8 or 9 others. He questioned if the water
level studies were conducted in the area. If the surface water is drained off and not
allowed to collect in ponds, are you going to lower the water levels of those wells 85- to
100-feet deep? !T. Kasms stated they haven't done any study to look at the deep wells,
but the 85- to laO-foot wells are below the first layer of hardpan, which seals off all
the ~onding-type water. He didn't believe the proposal here would affect anyone's well.
~he only water pondin~ is proposed_to stay in essentially its present condition, so it would
not be drained dry.
Hr. r·~ayo - stated if the oversizing of the pipe from the southwest corner of the 4th
Addition to Cedar Crest Estates is needed in order to drain that area and that the area is
assessed, he felt that consideration be given to not draining the water but leaving it as
possibly the water should be left in there to drain down. He asked who ~ays for the cross
streets on Xenia and for the parI, property. Hr. Kasma stated it is sµ'EiJ.'d :1ut over the
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entire project, and then explained the city's assessment policy for corner lots. The
City would pay for the ~ark property financing it on the bonds paid by the General Tax
Levy.
Nr. Hayo _ Questioned hoVl many lineal feet of road is proposed to be paved in the project
and how the cost of the street is determined, as he is trying to determine the cost per
lineal foot. lIT. Iillsma stated there was approxi~ately one mile of road; and when
determining the cost of the street, the amount of grading necessary is estimated along with
determing the amount of Class 5 gravel required at 4 inches th~k, and figuring the cost
of bituminous surfacing to include the 7-foot driveway to each property line plus top soil
in the boulevards for the finishing of yards. Those items added up is divided by the
adjusted assessable front feet. Class 5 gravel laid in place compacted is ~4 per ton;
bituMinous ~ixture laid in Dlace is $9 per ton; bitrnihous material is 590 per ton. Front
footage is adjusted because of corner lots and odd-shaped lots; therefore, the lineal footage
cost needs to be adjusted.
1,'1'. Havo - stated the lots on the side of Blackfoot are a total of 345 feet. The Council's
motion wss to include in the project everything 300 feet north of 175th. Did you intend
to stou 45 feet short of that one lot lin? Mayor ~indschitl stated the intent was to
find the high point of the hill.
T-Tarry Hay. 3~55 l72nd JAne ~] - If there is to be an overflow on the pond off 173rd running
south, he stated Woodbine does climb a considerable distance and asked wouldn't it be
costly to have an overflow go up that road. ~~. Kasma stated the road would be cut;
it is part of the overall plan. They will work out the problems and ccrne back to the
Council with additional information. Because of the limited dollars given for the
preliminary plans, not all the anSwers are available this evening.
Ken Mortenson. 3555 l73rd Lane Iny - stated the original petition did not include that
portion of l73rd to Tulip and felt that l73rd should be done all the way to Round Lake
Boulevard. Mr. Kasma stated it waS his recommendation to the Council to include that
portion to TuliP. He also stated a couple hearings on that portion to Round Lake Boulevard
have been held, and the people didn't want it done because they wanted to slow traffic
down.
Hr. Hortenson - there's no runoff in the area as it is absorbed into the sand as fast as
it can go. It appears that the problem is in one area and the rest of the people are
against the project. He also felt a 32-foot wide street would be ripping up everybody's
driveway and yard and asked who pays for the road in front of the park. Mr. Kasma stated
he agreed that water is absorbed but the only problem is in the spring when it rains and
sleets before the frost is out of the ground. That is when the streets break up because
subsoil is saturated from moisture from the winter. The storm sewer is to keep water from
standing on the streets and are the minimum design. Storm sewers aren't needed if rural
streets with ditches and culverts under every driveway are put in. !~. Kasma also stated
the present road is about 25 to 30 feet wide, so it won't be changed that much; and if
Gamaone's driveway is cut ofr, we will fix it. \7i th curbs, the road must be 32-feet
minimum, which gives two l2-foot driving lanes and an 8-foot parking lane. The park area
is Þaid for by the City as a whole. Side lots are picked up by the residents within the
'Uroject.
Jim Davis. 3660 174th Avenue ~J - didn't think 32-foot wide streets were minimum as he
thought they were 24-feet where he lived before in Coon Rapids. !Ie doesn't want cars
parkinR on the street in front of his house even if it is his guests, as he is in law
enforcement and has seen enough children coming out from parked cars. He felt the people
on l73rd Lane between Tulip and County 9 don't want that portion paved because of the
sþeeders Going through there. In front of his house now when the street is smooth, there
are speeders all day long. He also didn't think that the City is looking at the project
in a minimal way and hoped the problem area could be solved; but he didn't want to be
involved in it.
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Dave Ga"On. 17421 Blackfoot Street }n1 - stated the culvert on the corner has been flattened
out for over two years. !Ie stated the City hasn't tried to correct the problem prior to
this and felt it ~ould be cheaper to try Class 5. Hr. KaS!~a stated Class .:J won't do
any good because of the sand; and unless the sand is curbed somehoTI, the problem is not
going to be eliminated. A 24-foot blacktop surface without curbs is not going to solve
the "ÇJroblem.
Dic!, Theisen, 3755 l74th Avenue ~nv - is there any practicality of installing City se~er at
the same time? !!r. Kasma stated there are no plans at this time to extend sanitary
sewer into that a~ea. The master plan for the City done in 1974 sho~s a cut-off at Round
Lake with no intent to run a sewer line any further before 1990, per our aßreement with
the Metro~olitan Council. ~ith the large lots in the area, no problems are anticipated.
III'. Theisen - asked if the storm se~er is projected for the low area on l74th and Xenia.
¡II'. Kasma eXplained the high and lo~ points on l74th and where the water will be draining.
In the final design, the street may be able to be cut sufficiently to run the water.
SId ~ l1i ther , 17410 Blackfoot Street - since 1968 he's seen the runoff increase on ßlackfoot
as new homes are constructed. On several occasions, Class 5 material was hauled in, the
most recent in 1975 or 1976; and most of that material is gone. A solution was attempted
and it is not working. He is in favor of the project as proposed. He felt in the long
run it is in their best interest to do it as proposed by the engineers as it is a good
investment in his þroperty.. He felt the project would enhance the neighborhood substantially
and that property values would increase. It would also help solve a problem of a neighbor
who has a ponding area in his front yard which is very close to his drainfield. III'. Rither
felt as more homes become constructed out there, they risk the possibility of creating a
health hazard from his sewer. He urft~d the Council to take favorable action on the project.
Don Alberg, 17538 Blackfoot Street ;rJ - lives on lot 9, which is north of 175th and was
suddenly included in the project. The hill crests in front of his driveway, which is 1/3
the distance of the lot. He personally would like not to be included in the project.
Hr. Kasma stated if the final design is such that the grade can be cut to make the water
to the other way sosand doesn't run dovm the hill, there would be no objection. Without
chec!dn!,,: driveways, he didn't know if that cut could be made.
Dave Hahn. 17400 Blackfoot Street - the person passing the petition. !Ie has some problems.
~ater rolls down after a rain and he has put railroad ties to keep it out until it raises
high enough to go over. The water was 5 to 6 feet da>p this spring, and he is worried
about his se"!)tic tank. He bought the lot in 1966-67 when it was a cul-de-sac, and at that
time there were no problems of drainage. ~~en ¡II'. J.!ayo developed the land and tlit in
the road, he told J!r. !Iahn that there would be no drainage þroblems. However, the problem
has gotten worse every year. A lot of water comes from l74th and 173rd. He is in favor
of t!Œproject.
Gary ì'lhi te. 3qZl 174th Avenue !rJ - in 1001dng at what he is getting for the amount of monw
he is paying, his figures indicate that with curbs it is 513,000 over a 20-year period,
or $10,000 over a 20-year period without curbs. He didn't think he would benefit that
much from the project and is against it. He has , 300- feet of frontage.
Brnie Pletan. 17360 Blackfoot Street ¡;W - has a problem. He o\mS two lots there, but the
sand washes down from 174th and from Blackfoot. He tried planting everygreens on the land
but the sand buried them. There is no way for him to improve that corner without blacktop
and curbs, and he felt that it will enhance the value of the property for everyone. He
felt that each year the road situation is deteriorating the value of his proþerty, as each
year the roads and water are þrogressively worse. He is definitely in favor of the project.
}~. Ka8~a informed the Council how the project could be scaled dorm to absolute minimum
to solve the drainage þroblem on l74th and Blackfoot.
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Duane Halter. 17461 Blackfoot Street IDJ - is not excited about payinr, for this, but in
looking at ~revious costs over the past 3 years, it appears there has been a 40-percent
i~crease. lIe believes that sometime in the future they will be forced into the situation
of havin~ to get either streets or sewers. He would rather have it now, because he doesn't
see his income appreciating at the sa~e rate the costs are going up. l,w. Kas~a stated
construction costs will ~o up between 8 to 10 percent a year, and these problems will
!lot go away.
Oscar Dotseth, 3639 l74th Avenue ¡n'l - lived there since 1969. Ar,rees that costs are goi!lr,
up t1300 per 100 feet per year and agrees it is something that is going to hrne to be done.
TIe is in favor of doing it nov/.
Bud Kowalski. )667 l73rd Lane I!W - appreciates the problem O!l Blackfoot. Every year One
of his neighbors has to put in a drainfield. Presently his earth is sinking, and he will
have to have it dug up and a drainfield put in, which no one will þelþ pay for. So he is
faci!lg a drainfield situation at a cost of 51,200 to 11,500 plus 250 feet of frontage with
~ossible curb streets and storM se~er asseSSMents.
t~. Kishel - sU~~Qrizinß his observations, l73rd should be deleted from the project. lIe
didn't see the need for Xenia to be serviced vith starn sewers as he hadn't seen that much
run off there in the 5 years he lived there. If these people have a problem, solve that
problem. He doesn't have a problem and is not creatinG the problem in that area.
Dennis J'ohnson. 3918 174th Avenue ìTTI - lived there for four years ~nd has seen the road
deteriorate and has pulled out neiGhbors who ~ere stuck every sprinG. He is in favor
of the -project.
tT~ Bither - has pictures taken one spring about 1975 on a gulley wash on Xenia that co~es
to r:1id-thi~h~
Steve lierke. 3·324 173rd Lane '1':1 - stated when the petition came around, nothinG was said
about storr:1 se~ers. He can livp. with the water in his front yard, but if the road is
tout throu¡;h, he'll have to sell his house or his cars to pay for it as he's not r.:akinG
that kind of money. Councilperson Vanderlaan read copies of the petitions received by
the Council which included the statement "petition for bituminous streets with storm
seY.rers.. . "
!·:r. 'Iahn - stated the figures with the original petition are actually more than what the
cost fiGured out to be by the engineer.
!!r. Hortenson - felt the people on Blackfoot passed the petition, and they are the ones
who have the probler.:. The rest of us don't have the problem and are just average people
who canlt afford those prices.
I~r. Davis - those peo!,le affected by the problem should r,et together to solve that
problem, and he hopes they do. !Ie couldn't see the fairness of dragging someone down the
street who does not have a problem into the solution. !Ie's still paying for the drain field
he put in last year and canlt Qfford to pay for something to Dolve SOMeone elses problem.
Hr. Alberp; - seems to be a local problem affecting few people and it see'Os to be a prece"",nt
that in the past the City has taken care of these kinds of situations. Is that completely
outside the realm of possibility? He felt there is a legitimate concern that when that
was platted it waS the T01'ffi'S responsibility to look into that, and he felt a case could
be made that it would be a legitimate request. I!r. Kasma stated prior to 1974 the town
had done that; The Cityhas not, although it is within their authority. The problem is
these cases can be r.:ade allover the City. Council's position is to solve these problems
but not make taxpayers i!l another part of the City pay for them. Hayor I'lindschitl felt
that l!r. Alberg's question does have some meri~ and if the project is voted down, the
-probleM is still there, and the Council has an obligation to fix that problem. Haybe
cO!lside~ation would be to putting in the pipe and deferring the assessment until the road
¡;ces in or would be fully extended. Hr. Kasrla stated the pipe won't do any good without
the road.
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Garland Hinenko. 3863 173rd Lane !n'! - asked if the majority of the people don't want some-
thin!,:, how does the Council vote. !1ayor Windschi~ stated the most recent pollis 33
a~ai:nst, 14 for, and 21 no opinion.
Dave Green. 17541 Blackfoot Street NW - as],ed what the City proposes to do about the
safety of these roads from traffic. The streets behind us in the undeveloped area have been
plowed for traffic, and there is a terrific problem now with hiGh speed automotible,
motorcycle, and cross-country bike traffic which goes on incessantly. That is ~ore of a
problem than water runoff. He thought it would definitely encourage that traffic if it
were paved. Is there anything that can be done? Hr. Kamna stated hurl.carles can be
)Jut up.
Recess at 9:45 p.m.; reconvene at 10 p.m.
r~. Theisen - suggested having the area posted or to close off the street to the property
Q\'med by Hr. Hayo on Xenia going straight north, as he has frequently had calls to help
pull cars out. r~. Kasma stated a practical solution would be to have a short barricade
there, but it vrouldntt keep rnotorbil:es out. rbyor Windschitl stated the City will have
it looked at; and it will be put on a Council AGenda.
HOTION by HcClure, Seconded by Orttel, to close the public portion of the Public Hearing.
Hotion carried unanir.lOusly.
I~yor Windschitl questioned if bituminous birm can be put on the high ground part of the
project and to have concrete curb until you get past the problem area, as the concrete
curb is adding to the project and the sheer cost is changing a lot of people's minds.
!'-fr. Kasr::¡a stated it is possible. Alternati~ 2 and 3 don't have concrete curb. Because
of the grades, you would stay with the 32-foot street to put the concrete curb or a higher
bituminous curb in the steep slo~and put in bituminous birm in the relatively flat areas.
However, the ~ajor cost is the storm drainaGe.
Councilperson Lachinski ~as concerned that by cuttinG back the project and storm serrer,
you are also cuttin~ back the nUMber of years of financing the project, which wcul~n.t
be saving any ~o~ey on an annual basis for residents. tœ. KaSMa stated that is true;
they would be paying less money but about the same rate. Council:per son Lachinski also
felt the project should be cut bacl, far enough until there are enough people willing to pay
for it to curtail the problem: and if the Council decided not to do anything at all with
the project, the Council would still be obligated to do something with the problem on the
corner of l74th and 3lackfoot. ¡'T. Kssma stated he can't do a final design without
doinr, inspectio~s, but minimum p~oject as he saw it would be from Xenia west; and he will
cut it off as close dorm the hill as possible hittinG the high point on both 173rd and 174th.
!Ie didn't feel spillways \'lould \'lorI, because the sand would \'lash around them. To be More
specific on the mini~al project, additional dollars would have to be allocated so that an
exact determination could be made as to the exact projecct scaled dorm to the absolute
minimur;r.. In the sho~tened project, thore TIere still 17 against, 10 for, and 8 no opinion.
Councilperson Orttel's concern with the cut-dorm project was that the people other than
the ones having t~e severe problems that would not be in favor of the project would really
not be treated fairly because of the fact that they would probably never use the street,
as they nor~ally exit the other way. So there is a question as to whether it ~ould be a
benefit or increase the value of their ho~e. Hr. Babcock stated \'lhen talking about 300-
foot lots being assessed close to )6,000 for streets and storM sewers, he couldn't say
fi~ally without advice fro~ expert appraisers as to the benefits attributed to the property,
but he thought the Council could adopt such an assess~ent a~d expect it to be upheld by
the courts.
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lx. Kasma noted w~en assessments are thio high in other communities, they have gotten an
appraisal and adjusted the assessments throughout the project. He also statèd it is a
localized area and didn't see any adva~tage to assassins on a square footage basis for
storM sowers. The storM sewer proposed is the maximum, but only a final design will tell
whether or not it can be cut back at all.
!~yor ITindschitl felt it could be argued that the past Boards that accepted these two
plats didn't require the proper drainage; and he questioned if the City should be involved
in paying for part of the storm sewer as this is a through street. Councilperson
VanderLa.an felt that many mistakes have bean made in the past; and if a financial contribu-
tion is to be made by the City in this case, it is going to have to be done throughat
the entire City. The City has established the position of residents paying for their
TIarticul~nrojects, and she didn't feel it was fair to all of the people in the City to
sten in and pay for a portion of this project from the general tax levy.
Hr. I~sma stated the pipes going up the hill are to take care of the water coming dovm.
In the final design, we miGht be able to shorten that up a little. Standard storTI drainage
design is to run water not more than 600 feet over the road and then drop underneath.
ITit~ this severe grade, some pipe will be needed up the hill to catch the water. Hr.
I~sma also stated t~at by scaling dorm the project to the bare minimum, he felt that the
costs would not increase more than 10 to 15 percent, as the street costs will remain the
Dame and the storm sewer costs may be slightly more. In the final design, they would try
to scale it dorm to stay within a budget. nayor \7indschtil felt that the storm serIer
assessnent would be e~ormous and would want to see the figures for the smaller p~ect
of the storm sewers.
I'OTIOH by VanderLaan, Seconded by lIcClure, ordering final plans and specifications for the
improveMent of streets and concrete curbs for Alternate Humber 3 as described on a TKDA
report of nay 15, 19711, to include the initial petitioned streets plus l73rd Lane NIT,
Xenia Street 11'7 to Tulip Street '>1'.'1 ...
VOTE O~¡ l'IOTIOn: YF~-VanderLaan; 'TO-Lachinski, HcClure, Orttel, Windschitl
notion defeated.
1-mTIO;r by rJindschitl, Seconded by Iachinski, to direct the City Engineer to prepare an
additio~al report dealing with the costs of solving the problem at l74th and Blackfoot.
Discussio~: Councilperson Jßchir.sl:i felt that the benefit of the project to the residents
should also be addressed at the saMe tir.1e plus 1001::: at some alternative r.:ethods of
financiTIg'. !~yor Windschiü stated the inte~t of the motion is that he felt the storm sewer
assessme~t on the mi~imum p~oject is going to be such that it will be very expensive and
totally u~assessable. Te wa!lts to fi!ld out ",hat it would cost if the project involved
just the sr.1allest area. Councilþerso~ IEchinski stated the Council uill have to seG the
facts and fi~urGs, and at this ~oint the Council has r.ï.ade no decision on IThether or not tlis
?roject should be subsidized by the City. iiotion rorried unani:r:lOuoly.
r:OTI()~~ by Orttel, Seconded 'by Lachi:1s1::i, that the vouncil continue the Public Hearing on
Cedar Cree~/Cedar River Hills Estates Additions until Jur.e 5 at 7:30 p.m. at the City
!Iall. Hotion carried unanimously.
?ublic !Iearinr, cor..tinued to June 5, 1978, 7:30 p.m.
10:50 p.m.
';\\,::?z:tedZL
1-1'arc"ella A. PeaC!1
Recordinr, Secretary