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REGU~~ CITY COIDTCIL MEETING - JmŒ 6, 1978
lUNUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor
Jerry Windschitl on June 6, 1978, 7:31 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard ~r:l, Anoka, Hinnesota.
CouncilpersoTIo present: La.chinski, Orttel, Vanderlaan
Councilperoon absent: McClure
Also -ç¡resent: City Attorney, E. p. Babcock; City Engineer, D. R. Iillsma; City
Clerk, p. K. Lindquist; and interested residents
Resident Forum
Rosella Sonsteby, 4100 Seventh Avenue N - mentioned for Council consideratioTI'jhat at:lother
meetings she has gone too they have alw?ys pledged allegiancé to the flag before the meeting.
Secondly, she has a p~t coming in of approximately 70 acres. She went before the
Planning Commisskn with I-acre lots on 12 acres of it and was told that according to the
Comprehensive Plan, they r.1ust be 2~-acre lots. She didn't feel that was right since they
are only 1/2 mile to the four-way stop of 116 and County Road 9 and close to sewer and
water and that she should be able to rezone it into one-acre lots. She is working on the
Preliminary Plat now; and if she can get a favorable comment from the Council relative
to one-acre lots, she will begin the process for rezoning. Hayor Windschitl stat ed she
should go through the proper procedure for rezoning property. Councilperson Lachinski
stated there is a moratorium on and he wouldn't approve of anything like that during the
moratorium. The whole purpose of the moratorium is to look at acreage smaller than 2t
acres and that is what she is asking for. The City-wide problem has to be resolved first
before looking at specific areas.
Dick Schneider, 1343 Andover Boulevard mv - questioned why the Hotocross Bike Track wasn't
on the agenda this evening. He had told the Clerk the Lions could not afford to carry
insurance during the entire time. He also noted that Brooklyn Park is paying for all the
insurance on the BJ1X track plus putting it in and l1innetonka is paying the insurance on
theirs. He can't understand why it is insisted that the Lions pay all of the insurance
On this. The Clerk noted that according to our Insurance Agent, the Lions Club still
has to have insurance and a Certificate of Insurance not only for the meets but for overall
coverage because of the extra exposure. She will ask J~. Chester to send a letter clarify-
ing the insurance coverage problem.
Glen Rogers. 1~647 l1aniteau Boulevard - would like to see a moratorium on stop signs
and traffic control signs. He explained he could see no use for the four-way stop in his
area, and now another yieid_ sign has been installed. Yield signs do control some traffic
problems, but they are not a controlling factor. He felt the policy should be reviewed
and some criteria established for stop sign placement. He also believed that stop signs
are not a controlling factor of speed. In some areas he has seen he felt we are trying to
use stop signs to control traffic problems. He suggested the Road Improvement Committee
should establish the criteria where the signs go. ~hyor Windschitl stated the Crime
Prevention Committee could also work in conjunction with the Road Improvement Committee.
Winslnw Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard NW - two months ago he asked when the ditches on
Prairie Road would be taken care of. Nothing has been done and there is real water erosiœ
out there. V~at is the status of that? I~. Kasma stated the blacktopping and shouldering
on Prairie Road has been completed and we were assured by Busse Construction Company, who
is a subcontractor of Alexander, that they will be there tomorrow morning'S o'clock with
the backhoe to take the rocks out of the ditch and to clean the ditch out.
Regular City Council Heeting
June 6, 1978 - Jlinutes
Page 2
(Resident Forum,Continued)
Hr. Holasek - noted when that:,·rain hit it took out a couple driveways which were repaired.
He showed pictures of sand washinG and erosion after the heavy rains a couple weelŒ ago am
also questioned why the apron was only 14 to 16 inches wide, as he didn't believe that
was sufficient. I~. Kasma stated in a rural area they just W1nt to protect the edge
of the blacktop, so a two-foot lip is put on. The aprons being put on are because we are
cost-conscious and because it is for field roads that get very little use. They aro
meeting the State Highway Department standards.
Mr. Hnlasek - felt that when driveways are used by the truck farmers, they get extensive
use froM. heavily loaded trucks. He felt there was insufficient blacldop and that it is
not being cost conscious by putting three inches of blacktop the entire 40 feet of width
in the urban section. In the urban section approximately four times the amount of black-
top is used than on the rest of the road. Hr. Kasma stated the reason that was done is
because you don't want to þut an overlay in. We show 150 vehicles a day down the road;
and according to State standards, it doesn't warrant the extra thickness.
Agenda A puroval
NOTIor'T by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, to approve the Agenda with the following changes:
Add Item 5g, Woodbine Street Oiling; Item 510, Prairie Road Land Acquisition; 8e, Fire
Department - Award bids for equipment; and 8102, Lease of Hawk Ridge Park. Hotion carried
unanimously.
South Coon Creek Drive Brid~e/Land Acquisition
Attorney Babcock referred to the parcels owned by 3lance Gallant and her sister noting the
appraisa~ on the basis of $1,000 an acre, are $1,840 and $840, totaling $2,680. Mrs.
Gallant has agreed to settle the matter for $3,300 total. He is allowed by Statute to pay
$300 for appraisers fees on each parcel and recommended adding those appraisal fees and
rounding it to $3,300 to settle the matter to obtain a conveyance. ¥~. Babcock has been
in touch with Jæ. LaFromboise and !æ. Konan with respect to the parcel on Prairie Road
~hich has been appraised at $220. He has been talkins with l!r. LaPro:;¡boiGe earlier in the
day and was to talk with him at the end of the day but has not yet been able to contact him.
He will continue to try to reach him throughout the meeting this evening in an attempt to
settle the matter.
!lOTIO,! by VanderLaan, Seconded by LachinSki, that the City Council, City of Andover,
authorize the expenditure of $2,700 for award for land plus $600 for statuatory appraisers
fees for-procurement of land for the South Coon Creek Drive Bridge construction from r,ITG.
Blanche Gallant from parcels of la~d referred to in Plat 65928, Parcel 5400 and Plat
F5929 Parcel 7200, total dollar amoumto be conveyed, $3,300. (See Resolution R60-8)
Hotinn carried unanimously. }~. KaGma stated they are ready to go for bids as soon as
!~. Babcock approves, as both bridge plans are completed. Construction costs on both
bridges have not chansed and are comFbtely covered under the State Bridge Bonding. The
South Coon Creek Drive B~idge will be put on the next Agenda for advertising for bids.
Continued Board of Review
David Clough, City Assessor, and Ed Thurston, Anoka County Assessor, were present.
Jim Fitzpatrick. Plat 67809. Parcel 0850
!~. Clough determined that !~. Fitzpatrick's house was 100 percent complete on the
upper and entry level, the lower level was unfinished, and there is no bituminous
driveway. It is classified Class 7, B, an average house with typical construction.
!æ. Fitzpatrick agreed with the percentage of completion but disagreed with the market
value placed on the house. V~en a home is on the market for six months and is appraised
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June 6, 1978 - Minutes
rage 3
(Continued Board of Review)
for that much more than the market value, he questioned how that value was arrived
at. The 1977 market value was $500 more than what he paid for the house in September,
1977. He didn't question that;.however, the several thousand dollar increase since
then doesn't seem right to him. There are no extras in the house, no yard work, no
deck, and no cement work done. Mr. Thurston and Mr. Clough e~plained how the house
is classified and how the market value is determined. Mr. Thurston e~plained the
~rocedure Mr. Fitz~atrick would need to go through to change the completion of the
house as of January, 1977, to make an adjustment to the 1977 assessment by going thragh
the abatement procedure and needing to provide some documentation of work that was
done since that time. The County could also change tbe classification if they don't
feel it is classified correctly. Mayor Windschitl stated if there is no basis for
a classification change, the City must use the formulas given by the County.
HOTTON by VanderLaan, Seconded by Orttel, that the City Council, City of Andover, reduce
the structure valuation on a home owned by Jim Fitzpatrick, Plat 67809, Parcel 0850,
from previous valuation of $40,000 to be reduced by $300. l1otion carried unanimously.
Joyce Boog property. Plat 65919. Parcel l+h50
Hr. Clough testified that the house in question was no longer on the property.
MOTTO'! by VanderLaan, Seconded by Orttel, that the City CounCil, City of Andover, authorize
a reduction of structure valuation on property owned by Joyce Boos, Plat 65919, Parcel
4650, from $49,500 to $32,000 due to the fact that the property now has only one house.
Motion carried unanimously.
Dave Lanp,seth proþertv. Plat 67513. Parcel 0008
I~. Clough reported he checked the measurements of the house and found so~e errors in
the books as the two storys are not on a basement as is classified. He also felt the
classification is too high and recommended lowering it to a Class 6.
Recess at ~:35 to ~ive ~IT. Clough and Hr. Thurston time to re-evaluate the house; reconvene
at ,Q,:I+S TI.r.t.
~OTTO~ by VanderLaan, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Council, City of Andover,
authorize a reduction in structure valuation on a home owned by Dave Langseth, Parcel 0008,
Plat 67513, from $61,200 to $50,100. Motion carried unani~ously.
Da1re Lanp,seth. Plat h7513. Parcel OOQO, 0030. 0040. 0050, 0060, and 0160; and PIa t 67512,
;>ar-ee Is 0010. 0020, 0030. 0040, 0050. 0060, 0070. 0080. OllO, 0120, 0130, 0140, and 0150
~IT. Clough reported that because 40,000 square feet of land is required to put in an
on-site septic system so two lots must be sold as one, and because the owner has the
ri~ht to decide which parcel he wants to build a home on, he felt the valuation of
the lots would be correct. So for all practical purposes, the two lots would be
treated as one lot at this point. He didn't feel there would be any ta~ advantages
to indicating one lot at a bare-land value and another lot at a buildable-lot value,
as that could also conceivably be placing a buildability status on certain lots.
Ho action was taken by the City Council.
~mTTON by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we close the Board of Review. Discussion:
}IT. Fitzpatrick questioned why lIT. Langseth's house was reclassified and no consideration
was ~iven to reclassifying his house. ~IT. Clough reported that he was directed to de-
termine the completion of the house and check about the bituminous driveway, and thre was
no indication that the value was wrong. Mr. Thurston also e~plained the differences in
the classification system and noted there has to be some reason to reconsider the classif~
cation. Motion carried unanimously.
Board of Review closed at 8:58 p.m.
Re~ular City Council Meeting
June h, 1978 - Hinutes
J'a~e 4
State Aid Hie:hway Report - En¡;ineer
Reference Hr. J~sma's letter of June 6, 1978, to the Council summarizing the Andover
Municinal State Aid Highway Funds available, the proposed projects to be completed and
theIr projected costs, and the MSAH Fund balance. ~~. Kasma recommended the Council
cnnsider beginning purchasing easements for the southern portion of Prairie Road Street
construction project.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, to refer the Municipal state Aid System proposal
by TKDA to the Road Improvement Committee. Motion carried unani~ously.
Preliminary Plat - Dostaler/Hane
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the matter of the Dostaler/Hane Preliminary
Plat be referred to the June 20 Council meeting. Motion carried unanimously_
Lot Split - Jeff Green
Larry Retzlaff, Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission, reviewed the Commission's
recommendation to deny the Jeff Green Lot Split as noted in their April 25, 1978, minutes.
Any driveway coming from the proposed lot to the east would have to come out onto Bunker
Lake Boulevard into the passing lane at Crooked Lake Boulevard. He also referred to the
City's Comprehensive Development Plan that the lot split would jeopardize the integrity
of the land use within the area under the provisions of the Comprehensive Plan on page 144
A resident at the public hearing did object to the lot split and has also written to the
City Council voicing that opposition. He also stated that the existing land use there is
larger lots and the character of that neighborhood is large lds backing onto the creek.
Tbe plan proposed creates much smaller lots not backing onto the creek.
Discussion was on that portion of the City Ordinance for which there is justification for
denial of the lot split. }w. Babcock felt that any reasonable reference to our Ordinances
or to a COMprehensive Plan is legal. Councilperson VandaLaan stated we need to cite
Ordinance 10, 9.06, Item G, Access to Thoroughfares, noting the concern that the City
Council has to the safety, indicating that no direct vehicular access shall be permitted
from individual lots to a major highway or thoroughfare.
Jeff Green - since the R & Z made their recommendation, he has taken the map to the County
and has gotten the proposed lot split drawn to scale. It would be 110 feet from the center
of Crooked Lake Boulevard to the western boundary of the eastern lot. The driveway was
shown and presented to the Highway County Engineer, who has okayed it and signed the Plat.
He is also the adjacent property owner and speaks in favor of the lot split. Two sewer
stubs were put into that lot. Iw. Kasma stated that waS done at the request of the
property owner.
T?1!;o Schalwi~. 13725 Eidelweiss Street - cornmon sense tells him this should not be permitted,
relating to the safety factor and this passing zone. He stated if one is familiar with
the area, one can understand why he is here trying to vote this down. He also mentioned
that the previous property owner would not have wanted this and did protect that area
well.. He sa~ this happening and tried to buy the entire tract of land himself, but could
not afford it. He felt the City ought to be consistent ~ith the Guidelines and vote to
consider the land-use regulations..
The ~ain concern expressed by the Council W$S the private driveway coming out onto the
nassing zone on Bunker Lake Boulevard, as that area in itself is a dan~ereous intersection..
The Engineer also stated that co~mon sense tells him it looks like it would be a dangereous
access, as both Crooked Lake Boulevard and Round Lake Boulevard are heavily traveled roads.
He su~gested possibly it would be feasible to have that lot access out onto Eidelweiss,
possibly through an easement across the northern portion of the proposed westerly lot.
Discussion was on the problems involved with that suggestion relative to lot depth, the
width of the easement required, and access onto a pUblic road.
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TIe~ular City Council l'~eeting
June is, 1978 - !!inutes
Pa~e 5
(Lot S~lit - Jeff Green, Continued)
HOTIO'J by Lachinski, Seconded by VanderLaan, to deny the Jeff Green Lot Split under
Ordinance 40 and 40A for the followinß reasons: 1) Althoußh the application would create
lots within the size requirements of an R-4 zone, the proposed lots would not be consistent
with the surrounding area; 2) The traffic generated by the creation of the lots would be
hazardous to the public safety and welfare; and 3) They would not be consistent with the
orderly ~lanning of the area and would be inconsistent with the Comprehensive Development
Plan.
AHEI1DI1R1!T TO HOTION by VanderLaan, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Council cites
with particular concern Ordinance 10, 9.06f Lotsf Item g, Access to Thoroufares. (See
Resolution £61-8)
VOTE mr AHE'rm:E:TT: Carried unanimously.
VOTE ON HOTIOn: Carried unanimously.
Snecial Use PerMit/Variance - James Refri~eration
tw. Retzlaff stated the Commission has discussed the Special Use Permit/Variance for James
nefri~eration at length, has sought input from outside sources, and feels just in its
recommendation of approval of the requests in this order. There is another Special Use
Per~it pending to allow construction, which the Commission has not yet reviewedf but he
felt that the action pending is not contingent upon that permit. The major question before
the Council is will they allow the construction of this neighborhood business on one acre
of land.
Councilmembe!Bhad not received copies of the Commission's findings until this evening and
had not had a chance to review and study them. ¡·w. Retzlaff stated it is the developer's
request that action be taken tonight; he is recommending that action be taken in this order.
Charles James of James Refrigeration - stated this matter has been before the Planning
Commission since !{arch and explained the delay that has taken place. He was told by the
P & z that the best ~rocedure would be to obtain approval on this Special Use Permit and
Variance before applying fo~ the Special Use Permit for construction, as the size of the
lot seems to be the main issue. tw. Retzlaff stated the area ~not combined into one legal
description and that the Commission has addressed the first rezoning and original site
þlan along with looking at other land uses in the communities. Traffic has been considered
and certain recommendations and changes were made to the proposed site plan. They didn't
have a 'traffic study done, but felt traffic would not increase greatly because of the
business.
1·:0TIO:¡ by Va!!derLaan, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Council defer action on the
Special Use Permit-and Variance for James Refrigeration until the regular City Council
meetin~ on June 20 in order to comply with the provisions of Ordinance llA.
Discl1ssio::1: Concern was expressed by Councilperson Lachinski that possibly the entire
area should be loolmd at regarding traffic control and that there is not an entire plan
for the whole area that WaG rezoned. }~. James stated there are four lots of record
there; and at the time the Ordinance requirinG two acres in a neighborhood business was
enacted was also at the time there was no sewer in the City of Andover. Sewer is now
available at this location, Councilporson Lachinski wished to withdraw his Gecond and
stated he is not opposed to the project but w,uld like all the supporting information
for it includinG the impact on the area. lIT. JaDes was willinc to withdraw his request
for action this eveninG if he could have an idea of the types of information the Council
is desirinr,. As far as the balance of the land, he believed there ITas some discussion
that as long as these other businesses comply to all setbacks, parking requirements, and
applicable Ordinances, then it ITould not be as much a cause for alarm because it ITould
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Regular City Council Meeting
June 6, 1978 - Hinutes
Page 6
(Special Use Permit/Variance - Ja~es RefriGeration, Continued)
be an orderly development of the area. The question is ,how much land does each busi~ess
need and is it all that i~portant that all businesses are contained in one buildinG.
VOTS OIr IIOTIO'T: Yes-Orttel, VanderLaan, '¡',rindschitl; ~'TO-Lachinski
Hotion carried.
S~ecial Use Permit - Galen Farrian
}~. Retzlaff stated the P & Z has reco~mended that the Council approve the Special Use
Permit of Galen Farrian as it is compatible with existing land uses. It was referenced
that this same individual applied for a Special Use Permit for a oimilar use in April, 1976,
which TIas denied. lIe felt the split vote on the COMmission was because of personal feelings
ap;ainst any More junkyards, but that they found that it is in complaince with the existing
Ordinance and they could not find a reason for denial. At the Hearing there was support
for the request from adjoining property owners and no public opposition to it. III' .
Retzlaff also noted it doesn't say how larGe an auto salvage yard has to be. Under the
Junkyard Ordinance there are certain provisions, but those provisions need not be met at
the tiMe the Special Use Permit is granted but at the time of licensing. The COMMission
has recommended approval of this Special Use Permit contingent on application for a junkyard
license. }~yor Windschitl stated it was his interpretation under Ordinance 8, 3.02, that
a bUilding must be constructed before getting the Special Use Permit.
Galen Farrian, 1832 Bunker Lake Boulevard - is in the process of purchasing a building
from Arrow Fence and it will be up within the next 30 days.
~rs. Farrian - stated the building will be purchased within the next 30 days. They have
put up two fences along both street sides and felt there is no reason to deny this perMit.
It is zoned specifically for this and this is their livelihood. They will be selling
used automobile parts and storing them before they are sold. He will not be processing
them in any other way other than dismantleing them. He fixes them, sells them, and junks
them out. Not much land is needed for that. The Clerk noted several years aGo they
started issuing Special Use Permits contingent upon a building being put up within so many
days, so that people don't put up a building and then have the Special Use Permit denied.
M0TION by VonderLaan, Seconded by Lachinski, a Resolution granting the Special Use Permit
to Galen Farrian to operate a junkyard on that portion of Lot 1, Watts Garden Acres in
Section 34, Township 32, Range 24 also described as a used auto parts business . . .
'Discussion: Mayor Windschitl felt the question is the adverse affect on the surrounding
area, noting the house built in Red Oaks tha t is totally exposed to these junkyards.
He felt addin~ another junkyard does have an adverse affect on the surrounding area and
didn't feel that that should be a portion of the motion.
VaTS 0'1 MOTION: YES-Orttel, VanderLaan, NO-Lachinski, Windschitl
Motion defeated. The Matter is still pending before the Council.
Mayor Windschitl - I think it does adversely affect the surrounding areas and I cite the
new house that was built in the Red Oaks area that faces these junkyards. It's my opinion
that the continued proliferation of these is just making it worse. Even though the junk-
yards are required to be fenced and we are takL~g them to court to make them comply, you
can still see junk cars parked in front of the fences. He didn't feel that the surrounding
neighborhoods should have to be continually exposed to this and didn't see how these
motions coùtl continually be passed with that statement in it.
Discussion: Mr. Babcock stated each case is a separate one; and if there are specific
facts about this parcel and if there is to be a denial, those facts and reasons should be
~iven in the resolution. If there are distinquishing characteristics, then he felt you
have the right to exercise your discretion. But just because we don't want another junl\:-
yard is not proper justification for denial.
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~e~ular City Council Meetinß
June ~, 197'S - !!inutes
narr:e 7
(S~ecial Use PerMit - Galen Farrian, Continued)
Counctl'Person Lachinski asked when does this get to be an adverse situation for the entire
r;i.ty. He was concerned that the procedure seems to be that the junkyard is there before
they apnly for the Special Use Permit and felt that was backwards. He felt there should
~nly be so many junkyards in the City, as it definitely does dimish the property value
in the City. As long as the junkyards keep growing, the other businesses are going to
stay away. Mayor ~indschitl also noted that the junkyards are not a good source of tax
revenues and are not an efficient use of the land, along with bein~ an eye sore. HI's.
Farrian didn't feel that there was that much junk now that the fences arc up, it is an
advantage to the people to be able to obtain cheap parts, it is ~oned for junkyard use,
and asked what is the problem.
Councilperson Lachinski asked when is there too many junkyards to adversely affect the
community or the immediate one-mile radius? Mr. Babcock stated if'this is the reason for
exercising your discretion against the permit, it is a valid reason and felt it would be
upheld in court. ~~at you are saying is the granting of one more permit will adversely
affect the general welfare of the community and the court always gives c~edence to that
kind of arf,ument. However, it is an arguable point. Any distinguishing facts about this
particular parcel might be worth looking into also.
Gilbert Menkveld - ovms the land next to Red Oaks and had a chance to sell it for apartments,
but the people turned it down because of the junkyards. So he has been as hurt by the
junkyards as anybody. But these people are inbetween the junkyards and there is nothing
else they can use that land for. One more junkyard among._ the rest isn't going to hurt
any more than the rest, especially because they are in the middle.
Because of the tie vote, the matter is still pending and will be put on the June 20th
Agenda.
WQodbine Street Oilin~
Reference Hr. Kasma's memo to the Council of June 5 regarding the oiling of Woodbine Street
from l43rd to l45th and his recommendations.
IIOTIŒI by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the Council direct the City Clerk to have
Burton Kraabel grade IToodbine Street at his earliest convenience and that the Council
agree to allow the property owners on ~oodbine Street from 143rd to l45th to have the
street oiled at their own expense and to direct the Clerk to send a letter to Mr. Ruchti
stating that the City will grade up the oiled street when required to because of com-
plaints or maintenance problems. Motion carried unanimously.
!·IOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinsld, that we take up Agenda items Be and Be and
continue the rest of the June 6 Agenda until 7:30 on the 14th of June. Hotion carried
unanimously.
Fire Denartment - Award bids for Equipment
MOTTO;) by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinsld, that the City Council recognize the bids received
from Hinnesota Fire, Inc., inthe amount of 51B,290.42 and from Mid-Central Fire and Safety
Comnany who submitted a partial bid and that the bid be awarded to the Minnesota Fire,
Inc. , as the lower of the two over-all bids in the amount of 51B,290.42. (see Resolution
R~2-~ )
VOTE O:¡ !IOTIO'!: YES-Lachins!Ü, Orttel, Windschitl; NO-Vanderlaan
Notion carried.
C0uncilperson Vanderlaan - As I did not approve the original expenditure, I Vlould not be
a~TIroving the bid.
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Regular City Council ~æeting
June 6, 1978 - Hinutes
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Public Service Buildinr, Presentation
Wes Hendrickson, TKDA representative - presented a description of the concept plans and
showed the image sketches for the Fire Department/Phblic Works building and reviewed the
preliminary cost estimates as presented in a Hay 17, 1978 memo from TKDA to the Andover
Public Service Building Committee and the City Council. The building is proposed to be a
masonary-type building of 7,700 square feet for a total cost of $295,000, assuming the
construction cost of $27 a square foot and excluding the cost of a well, which should be
an additional $13,000. There would be mezzanine space over the offièe areas and the
equipment storage areas of 6 to 8 feet of clear storage area.
The d±cussion was on the need for that size of a building, the cost per square foot for
the building, the advantages and disadvantages of a metal building versus the masonary
bUlliing, and concern over the possibility of defeat of the bond issue if the cost gets
too hiGh. Councilperson Lachinski felt it would be feasible and desirable to limit the
price of the building to a quarter of a million dollars. He explained what he had been
told by a company willing to build a similiar metal building at that price, and felt he
would be going for space as opposed to beauty because he didn't feel one could ever build
large enough. He also felt we cannot delay on this project any further because the costs
are escalating so fast that one year makes a substantial difference in the price of the
building. ~w. Hondrickson agreed it would cost less to have the metal building peo¡iLe
doing the desiGn although you would have more control over the end product going the
traditional bidding process. Discuss~ was also on the fact that this is a very visible
location and through a masonary building you would have the opportunity to make it more
visually pleasing.
Fire Chief Evans stated the Fire Department would be requesting $172,000 for additional
fire equipment which would be for a pumper, a tanker, and all equipment needed' to outfit
those truclæ and the building itself as far as office furniture, etc. I'lith this money
and the expenditures previously approved, the Fire Department will be fully operable. As
presented to the Capital Improvement Co~~ittee per their request for a 5-year capital
expenditure, they are requesting to put wells in -- four high-capacity wells, one each
year the next five years which would be an expenditure over and above this $172,000. At
about 'the five-year point in their plan, they would like to add a rescue/emergency-type
vehicle.
Bill Bush - stated Haple Grove, a City similiar to ours, has just passed a bond issue,
voted in in favor three to one, for about $600,000 to $800,000. This was their second bond
issue and fire s tat ion in five year s . He felt we have to get out and sell this.
Glen Ror,ers - stated Coon Rapids has built both masonary and metal buildings. The Road
Improvement Committee has looked ahead five to 10 years as a basis for what equipment will
be needed for the Public Works section. He stated the two trucks and the tractor now
takes up three spaces; adding a dumptruck with a plow would take up two spaces. To reduce
costs, they are recommending the section be unheated. He stated there is an advantage to
concrete, but it is a costly item. They do have a problem with equipment putting holes
and dents in the metal buildings. There is also problems with fumes in the metal buildings
that are insulated with rolled insulation
~w. Hendrickson stated there is a doubling of the cost between metal versus masonary over
a 20-year life cycle and is confident there is a savings by having a masonary building.
Chief Evans requested a Special !!eeting with the Council to discuss both the building and
pamphlet covering the bond issue. He felt it probably would take Qore than one meeting.
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Regular City Council Ilee ting
June 6, 1978 - Hinutes
Page 9
(Public Services Building Presentation, Continued)
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the matter of the Public Service building be
put on the Agenda for discussion on the 14th of June.
VOTE ON MOTIœ/: YES-Lachinski, Orttel, Windschitl; NO-VanderLaan
Hotion carried. Councilperson Vanderlaan - I feel it is not allowing enough time for reviewing what has
to be done on the Agenda yet and felt a special separate Council meeting should be set.
!~. Evans reported he has received a letter from the Dlffi stating they are sending us a
check for $1,500 for matching funds for the 6 x 6 vehicle.
_l~TION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, to adjourn. All in favor said aye.
Meeting adjourned at 11:28 p.m.
Res¡œtfully submitte~_, _"" ""::/.
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Marcèl1a A. Peach
Recording Secretry