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PARKAND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING -DECEMBER 15,2005
MINUTES
The regular Bi-monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chairman Lindahl on December 15, 2005, 7:10 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present:
Chairman Jim Lindahl, Ernest Bedor, Wendy Albee, and
Devon Walton
Commissioners Absent:
Dan Maslowski, and Dave Blackstad
Also Present:
Parks Coordinator, Todd Haas
RESIDENTS FORUM
There were no co=ents at this time.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Walton, seconded by Commissioner Bedor, to approve the
November 17,2005 Park Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes,
O-nays, 2-absent (Maslowski and Blackstad) vote.
APPROVAL OF REVISED AGENDA
Parks Coordinator Haas stated that he would like to add the following items to the
agenda: Approve Application for scheduled Use of Recreational Facilities/Coon Rapids
Free Church Youth Group as Item 4a and Consider Tennis CourtsfPine Hills Park as Item
4b.
Motion by Commissioner Bedor, seconded by Commissioner Walton, to add 4a and 4b to
the agenda Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Maslowski and Blackstad)
vote.
UPDATE OF 2006 TOURNAMENTINORTH METRO SOCCER ASSOCIATION
Parks Coordinator Haas noted Judy Densmore of the North Metro Soccer Association
was present, and stated City Staff and the North Metro Soccer Association (NMSA) has
attempted to contact the Andover Baseball Association over the past few weeks to
determine if there would be any conflicts for the tournament that NMSA requested in
June 2006. Staff did receive a response on December 2, 2005 from the President of the
Andover Baseball Association. He indicated they planned to have a tournament the same
weekend. Parks Coordinator Haas reco=ended the commission approve both
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tournaments, because there should be adequate parking with the schools nearby. It was
suggested that baseball and soccer work together to communicate this to the teams where
parking will be available. He suggested that some of the championship games (if
possible) on Sunday could be played in the Prairie Knoll Park.
Chair Lindahl clarified the last time they addressed the Commission it was a tentative
plan. He mentioned that Andover Baseball Association could make concessions, because
there were two other parks nearby that could be used for their games. He reminded the
Commission that the Baseball Association's schedule was still tentative because the
baseball association had not submitted the required tournament application form to the
City for consideration.
Motion by Commissioner Walton, seconded by Commissioner Albee, to approve the
North Metro Soccer Association tournament. Motion carried 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Maslowski and Blackstad) vote.
APPROVE APPLICATION FOR SCHEDULED USE OF RECREATIONAL
FACILITIES/COON RAPIDS FREE CHURCH YOUTH GROUP
Parks Coordinator Haas stated that the same group as last year. This year they needed the
facility for two nights. They would have to pay the $36.00 fee for the adults on the first
night, but no fee for the second, because it was for youth. Last year, the group used the
facilities past II :00 p.m. so the police were called to let them know of the activities going
on in the park.
Commissioner Walton inquired if the facility was lighted. Parks Coordinator Haas
responded they had lights.
Motion by Commissioner Walton, seconded by Commissioner Albee to notify the
neighbors and approve the application. Motion carried 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Maslowski and Blackstad) vote.
CONSIDER TENNIS COURTSIPINE mLLS PARK
Parks Coordinator Haas introduced Don Jacobson, Chair of the Meadow Creek School
Board of Trustees. Mr. Jacobson stated the new site for the school would be across from
Pine Hills Park on the north side of 161st Avenue NW. Originally they proposed 4-6
tennis courts on there own site. But due limited space, the school is requesting the City
to consider the concepts to build the courts in Pine Hills Park. The school will ask for
exclusive use of the courts during their tennis regular season and for tournaments. Each
year they would bring the schedule to the Commission for approval. He inquired if they
were in favor of the concept. The City Attorney would write up the agreement, which
would then go to Council for consideration. They would not be built until about 2008.
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Chair Lindahl inquired when the school is established, would the crossing be adjusted at
the intersection. Parks Coordinator Haas stated a traffic study is currently being done by
the church., but there were no plans for a change in the intersection except for some turn
lane improvements and probably crosswalks.
Chair Lindahl questioned if the courts would be used during school days for gym classes.
He requested that one or two courts be left open for public use. Mr. Jacobson answered
they would be used for practice from generally 2:30 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. during the week.
He asked if the houses at the school site would be removed. Mr. Jacobson responded that
most likely the existing houses where the school would be built would probably be
removed.
Commissioner Bedor inquired if the courts would be located beyond the outfield. Mr.
Jacobson responded that they would be beyond the outfield, but the area would need to be
regarded to accommodate the courts. Chair Lindahl indicated he did not want to remove
many trees to protect the adjacent neighbors' views.
Commissioner Walton questioned if there was a need to expand the parking lot. Mr.
Jacobson noted there would be a parking lot across the street at the school that they could
use if parking was short at the park. At the present time, it was merely at the conceptual
level.
Chair Lindahl requested that when the blacktop is put in could they pave the parking lot
in the park at the same time they pave the tennis courts as well. Commissioner Walton
indicated he would like to revisit the asphalt parking lot issue at a later date.
Motion by Commissioner Bedor, seconded by Commissioner Albee to recommend
approval of the concept of the plan for tennis courts at Pine Hills Park. Motion carried on
a 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Maslowski and Blackstad) vote.
UPDATE OF PARK DEDICATION IMPROVEMENT FUND QUARTERLY
REPORT/FINANCE DEPT.
Parks Coordinator Haas stated he spoke with the Finance Department about the 3rd
quarterly and questions some of the Commission members had at the last meeting. After
discussing this with the Assistant Finance Director, it was determined to wait until the 4th
quarterly report is finished. The Assistant Finance Director would be at the January
meeting to go over the report with the Commission.
UPDATE ON TWINS GRANT
Parks Coordinator Haas indicated that Commissioner Walton had obtained a newsletter
application that will not be available until January 14,2006. His impression was the
grant was for ballparks needing improvements.
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Commissioner Walton clarified that the funding is for the installation of ball fields or
retrofitting. One example was a renovation of a park with a new drain field. Examples
of parks where this funding could be used for are Strootman Park and Andover Lions
Park.
Chair Lindahl inquired about the total amount being offered. Commissioner Walton
responded the amount was $210,000.
Chair Lindahl mentioned that Andover was a relatively affiuent community, and the
target appeared to be more rural.
Commissioner Walton answered that there were several other communities similar to
Andover such as St Paul, St Francis, and Ham Lake that received funding for their
facilities.
CONSIDER 2006 OUTDOOR RECREATION APPLICATION ROUND/06-6
Parks Coordinator Haas stated this funding was available to cities, counties, and other
agencies. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources decides the amount that each
agency will receive. The City has been seeking funding for the past couple years for the
Crooked Lake boat landing for parking lot reconstruction, and a new fishing pier at the
same location. The City has applied for other grants for other parks, but it has been very
competitive due to all the agencies applying, and in the past the City had not obtained any
of those grants.
Commissioner Walton questioned if there was a trail along the Rum River that could be a
possible site for a grant Parks Coordinator Haas responded the terrain was not
conducive for a trail along this section.
Motion by Commissioner Bedor, seconded by Albee to pursue funding through the 2006
Outdoor Recreation Application for the Crooked Lake Boat Landing parking lot
reconstruction and a new fishing pier. Motion carried 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Maslowski and Blackstad) vote.
CONSIDER CONCERTS IN THE PARK/COMMISSIONER ALBEE
Commissioner Albee inquired if there was any interest for the Commission to hold
concerts in the park. She spoke with the Coon Rapids Arts Commission, and suggested a
trial run of two concerts to be funded with concessions. The trial run would indicate if
there was any interest by the community. Chair Lindahl mentioned Sunshine Park was
possibility, to be located in the parking lot or the picnic area, at a time when it might be
open such as a Wednesday.
Commissioner Bedor suggested a Friday or Saturday night. Commissioner Albee stated
that is was difficult to book bands on the weekends.
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Chair Lindahl noted there was a considerable difference in the amount the bands charged
for a booking. Commissioner Albee clarified that it ranged from $200-1200 per booking,
but that several were in the lower range.
Commissioner Walton suggested cooperating with other groups. He gave the example of
Tanner's sponsoring two bands for their funfest. The bands that were kids-oriented drew
large crowds. POV's was another group to cooperate with that might do an outdoor
concert.
Chair Lindahl suggested another site could be between Festival Foods and Target.
Commissioner Walton stated Tanners had a band in the parking lot in the fall that was
well attended. Commissioner Bedor noted it was more of a rock band. Coon Rapids had
their concerts by the dam, so it was not competing with sporting events.
Chair Lindahl indicated it might not necessarily be in a park. Commissioner Bedor
mentioned it would be helpful to find a part of the City to dedicate for the purpose.
Commissioner Walton would like the site to be by the Community Center.
Chair Lindahl noted the issues were concessions, a facility, the accommodations, and
other distractions. Sites could include Bunker Hills Park or the Community Center.
Funding was a concern for him. Possibly for the trial basis they might use money from
the General Fund. They needed to consider concession availability.
Chair Lindahl stated it should be brought back in the meeting in January. Commissioner
Walton questioned which permits were required.
Chair Lindahl added that it was necessary to address the available venues.
Commissioner Albee inquired if electricity was available near Target. Commissioner
Walton stated he would contact Tanner's concerning how they held their concerts.
REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Parks Coordinator Haas indicated that they are working on addressing the fencing design
of Andover Station North Park ball fields. Country Oaks Park irrigation system would be
installed in the spring. He spoke recently with the YMCA representative at the YMCA
Edina facility about any recommendations on a new skate park. They will be at the
January 19, 2006 Commission meeting to make a presentation. The Sign Advertising
Task Force would meet sometime in the first two weeks in January.
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CHAIR'S REPORT
Commissioner Walton noted that playground equipment had been ordered for Woodland
Estates Park, and would be installed sometime this spring. Parks Coordinator Haas added
that they had $15,000 budgeted in the CIP for the project.
Commissioner Walton inquired if it would be ready for use in April. Parks Coordinator
Haas clarified it would be ready sometime in the middle of May.
Commissioner Walton noted it was a positive experience with the cooperation they
received from the neighbors, and the playground equipment was purchased was on sale.
Parks Coordinator Haas stated there were 4-5 applicants that have applied for the 2 open
positions on the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Bedor, seconded by Commissioner Albee, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:03 p.m. Motion carned on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Maslowski and
Blackstad) vote.
Respectfully submitted,
Brigette Blesi, Recording Secretary
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