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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 13 1984 ea<t 0& ANDOVER AGENDA PARK COMMISSION May 3, 1984 l. Jim Lund Sketch Plan 2. Questionnaire on parks in general 3. Fi nanc i a 1 - bond issue 4. East Round Lake Estates preliminary plat. 5. Discussion on Quad City topic 6. 7. 8. Approval of minutes 9. Meeting adjournment ~oIANDOVER M E M 0 RAN DUM lU Citv Council COPIES TO City Clerk. City Engineer, Park and Recreation Commission FROM Andover Quad CityCo~ittee (Merlyn Prochniak) DATE 5/9/84 REFERENCE: Quad City Positions Statement and Facilities Needs In accordance with the drafted statement (attachment 1) of the Quad Cities Recreation. Advisory Committee (QCRAC) on 4/16/84, an inventory of available active recreational facil ity in each community (city) should be made. (lIttachment 2). Anoka Youth Athletic Association (AYAA) has provided and identified a number of participants from each community that are involved in their organization and that use the recreational facilities offered by and in the city of Anoka (attachment 3). Discussion at the Quad Ciyy meeting varied in different ways: A. Each city has its' own characteristics and its needs are somewhat different (the city should outline and evuluate its needs for today's and for future development of recreational facilities). B. What recreational facilities have priority? C. How some of the other communities develop their own recreational facilities (methods of obtaining monies)? D. What methods are being used to collect monies from non-residents? Objective being that each city provide its own residents with an adequate recreational facility within its city without too much reliance on surrounding communities to provide facilities. The individual community should be responsible for the development of their own recreational facilities (determine what/when/how) keeping in mind that in some instances a joint effort with a neighboring community could be very advantageous and could alleviate some duplication which would benefit those communities involved. 11 : 5/10/84 A It Al:ti'1t:N I ST AFF REPORT April 16, 1984 POSITION STATE~ffiNT DRAFTED BY THE QUAD CITIES RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BE PRESENTED TO THEIR RESPECTIVE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES I. In order to resolve the problem, both present and future, we jointly agree the highest priority must be given to emphasize the importance of each community developing their own active recreational facilities which encompass the needs of the entire Quad City recreation area where programs and facilities are jointly shared. II. A two year time frame has been established whereby each community has the opportunity to incorporate and develop their active recreational centers into their respective communities. In developing these active recreation centers, strong consideration must be given to the lighting of soccer fields and football fields as the committee feels that the greatest problem is a shortage in these types of recreation facilities. III. In the event that after two years communities have not completed the development of these active recreation centers and have made no firm commitment as to their completion dates, the committee recommends the assessment of fees for the use of these active recreational centers until such time that equalization of facilities used by participants becomes a reality. The committee agrees that such assessments tend to be discriminatory but feel it justifiable if communities cannot provide their recreational responsibilities, l- City of A noka Attachment 2 Inventory of recreational facilities: 1) City Hall 2 regulation softball fields - 1 - in use District #11 Adult Program 1 - in use Soderville Athletic Association 1 regulation soccer field 2) Northwoods East - 1 - in use by North Metro Soccer Associatio 1 youth softball field - CRAA Girls Youth Softball 3) Pinehills 1 youth softball/baseball field - in use by Soderville Athletic Assoc. 4) Crooked Lake Elementary School 3 youth softball fields (only 2 when soccer) - 1 - Girls youth softball Mon/Wed - 1 - Boys youth softball one night a week - 1 - Womens softball (church) one night a week 1 regulation soccer field - 1 - North Metro Soccer Assoc. Mon thru Thur: ATTACHMENT 3 5T AFF ,.;,EPORT 17d k,d~ - ~(,b~r...- (T)t..r",'b.-l\) S ~t:L. r ~~.;r'oc...\\ ~~Ic<.\\ October 14, 1983 ",,,/ "".l.:, t;j ,., '1. .l~~ '5...."" ~ (' FALL PARK FACILITIES USE ANALYSIS 1. PURPOSE STATEHENT '. The purpose of this report is to identify the fall sport participants by community, to review research information and establish a basis for decision making which can best benefit the many organizations involved. The information provided in this report was compiled from th~ Anoka Youth Athletic Association, the Ramsey Youth Athletic Association foot- ball and soccer programs, the League of Minnesota Cities and their re- search division, the cities of Blaine, Brainerd, Chaska, Hopkins, Minne- tanka, New Hope and Plymouth. II. PARTICIPANT DEMOGRAPHICS The 1983 fall soccer program consists of 18 teams with 290 participants. The fall football program consists of 26 teams with 545 participants. The number of parti~ipants for each community is broken down as follows: SOCCER FALL '83 PROGRAM Grade Anoka Ramsey Ramsey Andover Champlin Coon -- AYAA RYAA Rapids 3-6 130 15 (95) 80 21 9 4 total 7 19 .6' 2 1 0 Dayton 1 o (Brooklyn Park and Oak Grove Township - One each in grade 3-6) TOTAL 290 FOOTBALL - FALL '83 PROGRAM Grade 4, 5, 6 Heavy & light 7 Anoka Champlin Andover Ramsey 103 101 158 35 40 38 52 18 TOTAL 545 The major difference in the participation ratio between football and soccer is that the football proeram includes 210 participants from . the City of Champlin and the soccer program consists of only 10. Of the participant ratio per community you will note that Anoka's facil- City of A noka . \... ANDOVER PARK/ATHLETIC SURv~Y Name (Optional) Addres s Your response will be significant. It will provide important information for future park development and insight for proposed athletic programs in the City of Andover. 1) Number of persons involved in organized sports in your household? Adul t D Number Youth D Number 2) Organi zed athletic activity persons in your household are involved in? Youth Baseball D Number Youth Softball D Number Adult Softball D Number Youth Hockey 8 Number Youth Basketball Number Youth Soccer D Number Youth Football 0 Number Other Activities: 3) What athletic associations are you or members of your household involved in? c=J North Metro Soccer Association c=J Rum River Hockey Association c=J Coon Rapids Athletic Association c=J Blaine/Spring Lake Park Athletic Association c=J Champlin/Dayton Athletic Association c=J Ramsey Youth Athletic Association c=J Anoka Youth Athletic Association o Other: 4) Location where you or members of your family participate in organized athletic activities (please check all cities that apply). D Andover D Anoka D Blaine o Coon Rapids D Ham Lake D Ramsey D St. Francis D Oak Grove o Other: OVER 5) If participating oucside of Andover in athletic aCL1vities, is an extra fee being charged because you are not a resident of that community? DYes. Where o No 6) Would you or any members of your household oppose such a non-residential fee if it were or is being charged? DYes. Where o No 7) Distance you or members of your household are traveling for organized sport activities (average round trips/mileage to a practice or home game). 0 1/2 - 1 mile 0 2 - 4 miles 0 6 - 8 miles 0 9 - 12 miles Other total miles 8) If the above questions do/do not apply to your household, what recreational activities would you or members of your household like to see developed in the Ci ty of Andover? 9) Please comment on park development in your area. (May list parks of concern.) o Satisfied c=J Dissatisfied. Comments: 10) We would appreciate your suggestions on future park/athletic facility development in Andover. Please send survey back with office, or mail to: your child to Crooked Lake Elementary Community School Andover City Hall Parks/Recreations 1685 N.W. Crosstown Blvd. Andover, Minnesota 55303 Thank you for your cooperation. ~ 0{ ANDOVER PARK COMMISSION MEETING May 3, 1984 MINUTES The meeting of the Andover Park Commission was called to order by Acting Chairman LeFebvre at 7:45 p.m., Thursday, May 3, 1984 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. COMMISSION MEMEBERS PRESENT: LeFebvre, Syzplinski, Prochniak, Kinkade ALSO PRESENT: Melanie DeLuca, Jim Lund, Al Parent LUND EVERGREEN ESTATES 2nd ADDITION Mr. Lund pt'esented his plan and stated that there were 197.43 acres for the entire layout and they would all be single family dwellings with a total of 60 lots. He stated that the land he would want to give is not buildable for houses but that it could be useful for a park with some fill. All roads will be blacktopped and the project will be completed by 1985. Kinkade asked Mr. wInd if the park would be completed in the first Phase. Mr. Lund stated that the roads would be built first to balance the dirt out. LeFebvre stated that the best lot would be the Northwest corner lot and the rest in cash. Lund stated that he felt a bigger park would be used more by kids. Szyplinski stated that the bigger park area would be of no use because there was not enough access or parking. Kinkade stated that the area was also too wet. Melanie DeLuca stated that what would be necessary is room for a tot lot, soccer field and ball field. Lund stated that he could take the value of grading out of park fee and then the Commission could have both parks. ( one on each end). MOTION by Kinkade~ seconded by Syzplinski, that the Park/ Recreation Commission recommends lot 1, Blockl, Phase III per sketch, with no work to be done by developer, be dedicated as park land and 17.24 acres be paid in cash in lieu of land not to be less than $500.00 per acre. Motion carried unanimously. Discussion: Lund gave permission to the Commission to develop park as soon as the City Council approves Lunds Evergreen Estates 2nd Addition final plan. East Round Lake Estates Al Parent stated that he had 39.78 acres with one 2~ acre homestead existing, the rest would be 2~ acre lots. There would be a total of 12 single family homes. Kinkade asked if the area was large enough to need a park. Mr. Parent stated that with only 11 families he didn't see the need. MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Syzplinski, that the Park/Recreation Commission recommends to accept cash in lieu of land for East Round Lake Estates for 3.98 acres, with dollar per acre to be determined by City Council and developer. Motion carried unanimously. -2- DISCUSSION ON QUESTIONNAIRE Prochniak presented to the Commission a questionnaire that he was considering to send out to Andover residents through the Community School. A majority of the members present felt that it was a good idea. (See attachment) DISCUSSION ON BUDGET MOTION by Kinkade, seconded by Prochniak that any expenses within $50.00 to $200.00 should be presented to the Chairman and approved and presented at the following Park/Recreation Commission meeting. Anything over $200.00 needs approval by the Park/Recreation Commission. The City Engineer's feedback on this matter would be appreciated. DISCUSSION ON BOND ISSUE The general feeling of the members present was that there was a positive need for pursuing this issue and a special Non-Park/Recreation Commission meeting was planned for May 10, 1984. QUAD CITY DISCUSSION See attached memorandum. APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Prochniak to approve the minutes as typed for April 5, 1984. MOTION by Syzplinski, seconded by LeFebvre to adjourn meeting at 10:25 p.m. Res pectfu llyqsubmi tted, ~~r~-+ Secretary ~ ~ ANDOVER M E M 0 RAN DUM TO Mavor and City Council COPIES TO: Planninq and Zoninq Commission FROM: Park/Recreation Commission DA TE May 8. 1984 REFERENCE Lund's Everqreen Estates 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat The following motion was made at the Park/Recreation Commission's May 3, 1984 meeting and is for your consideration: MOTION by Kinkade. seconded by Syzplinski. that the Park/Recreation Commission recommends Lot 1. Block 1, Phase III per sketch, with no work to be done by developer. be dedicated as park land and 17.24 acres be paid in cash in lieu of land not to be less than $500.00 per acre. Motion carried unanimously. ,d~~:4-~~& Steve Nichols. Chairman Park/Recreation Commission 11 /5/8/84