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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 12, 1985 ~ 01 AN DOVER REGULAR PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 12, 1985 AGENDA Approval of Minutes Call to order - 7:30 P.M. 1. Comm. #1-85-4 2. Comm. #12-84-1 James Perry Sketch Plan Ord. 8, Sec. 3.01,4.19,6.02 Amendment Public Hearing ~ 01 ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 12, 1985 MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Jacobson at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, February 12, 1985 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Jovanovich, Bosell, spotts, Rogers Apel Councilman Jim Elling; Curt Adams, Woodland Development Approval of Minutes January 22, 1985 MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Jovanovich to approve the minutes of January 22, 1985 as presented. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1 present (Bosell) vote. James Perry Sketch Plan (Comm. #1-85~4) James Perry, developer - noted that at the Council meeting last week, the Council suggested that a 6th lot be added rather than just 5. Lot 4 will be a 7 acre lot. Chairman Jacobson stated that when this plat was previously presented, the problem was that the lots would have been unbuildable. He also noted that Lot 1 will require a variance because of the width. Mr. Perry noted that he would like to build a house on Lot 1 before the road is put in. He was told that he could do that. Commissioner Bosell noted that Lots 2 and 5 will also require variances because the short side of the lot is not the front. Chairman Jacobson also noted that Mr. Perry will have to make sure that Lot 6 contains 39,000 square feet of buildable land 'in order to obtain a building permit on that lot. Mr. Perry stated that he is going to require the houses to have cedar or brick fronts and they will be in the $80,000 price range. He also stated that he wants to build a house on the remaining 15 acres that are not included in the plat. Chairman Jacobson noted that the 15 acres will have to be shown on the plat as an exception. Ordinance 8, Sections 3.01, 4.19, 6.02 Public Hearing (Comm. Jl12-84';'1) Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. It was suggested that Section 3.01 be changed to read 'A room or suite of rooms with cooking facilities available which is occupied and normally rented as a residence by a single family. Includes buildings with 3 or more dwelling units and efficiency units.' Curt Adams, Woodland Development - stated that he is here tonight basically to see what is being proposed. Chairman Jacobson noted that in the memo from Pat Lindquist she stated that condominiums Regular Planning Commission Meeting Februa ry 12, 1985 - Mi nutes Page 2 (Ordinance 8, Cont.) are usually an apartment type building with the individual units being owned rather than rented and in most cases do not have separate entrances to the front and rear yards from each unit. ' Commissioner Bosell noted that (CCCCC) Condominiums and Section 4.19 are in conflict with one another. The memo from Ms. Lindquist also suggested that Section 7 of Ordinance 8 be changed to conform to the other changes being proposed. Also, Section (HHH) should be changed from Multiple Residence (Apartment Buildings) to Multiple Single Family Attached Dwelling Units. The commission concurred with these changes. Councilman Elling asked if there are definitions in the State Building Code for Townhouses, carriage homes, etc. Chairman Jacobson felt that our definitions are pretty well nailed down; they are basically the same as other cities. Commissioner Spotts noted that in Section 6.02 under the dwelling unit requirements for M-l and M-2, a two bedroom unit should be more than 750 square feet. Commissioner Rogers suggested taking out the two bedroom unit requirement and only having one bedroom units plus 150 square feet for each additional bedroom. By doing it that way, a two bedroom unit would have to be 150 square feet larger than a one bedroom unit instead of only 50 square feet larger. The Commission concurred with this idea. Curt Adams explained that part of this ordinance revision was initiated by their project (Woodland Terrace). With the original density, they were going to do a high quality development. Now, they are proposing single family units throughout. He stated that it is not feasible to do the PUD with the changes being proposed. Commissioner Bosell asked if the city is being too restrictive. Mr. Adams felt that we are, namely the lot area requirements and the garage requirements. Councilman Elling noted that we have tried so hard to get some flexibility in a PUD that we have taken everything out. Mr. Adams stated that with 8550 square feet per unit, it inflates the cost of the unit and it's not competitive with single family units. Chairman Jacobson asked what theit' lot sizes were before. Mr. Adams stated it was 6,000 square feet per unit. Commissioner Bosell asked if we need to take action on this item tonight or if it could be continued at the next meeting. Chairman Jacobson noted that the City Council might like to see what we have come up with and we should not keep the developers waiting. Councilman Elling stated that the proposal would work very well on a small piece of property but when you get to the larger parcels, it isn't that good. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Bosell to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Spotts that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of the amendments to Ordinance 8 per the attached. Regular Planning Commission Meeting February 12, 1985 - Minutes Page 3 (Ordinance 8, Cont.) A public hearing was held; there was some discussion on the part of the public. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on March 5, 1985. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 8:51 P.M. Respectfully submitted, L.w Vicki Volk Commission Secretary