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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 13, 1985 - AGENDA
Call to order - 7:30 P.M.
Approval of Minutes
l. Comm. #7-85-2
2. Comm. #7-85-3
3. Comm. #8-85-1
4. Comm. #8-85-2
5. Comm. #7-85-1
Tom Thumb Amended Special Use Permit Public
Hearing
Wm. C. Rademacher Amended Special Use Permit
Public Hearing
Arnold Aker Lot Split
Phillip D. Hanson Variance
Ordinance 8 Amendment
CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
AUGUST 13, 1985 - HINUTES
The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was
called to order by Chairman Don Jacobson at 7:30 P.lI., Tuesday, August 13,
1985 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, llN.
Commissioners Present:
Also Present:
Apel, Bosell, Jovanovich, Rogers, Ward
Dean Willis, John Prest, Arnold Aker, Phillip Hanson
Approval of Minutes
July 23, 1985
Page 1, after the approval of minutes, next paragraph, says "Chairman Spotts".
This should read Chairman Jacobson.
MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Rogers that the minutes of July 23, 1985 as
corrected. l'1otion carried on a 5 yes, 1 present (Apel) vote.
lorn Thumb Amended Special Use Permit Public Hearing (Cowm. #7-85-2)
Dean Willis, Pump and !.Ieter Service, Hopkins, 11N - stated that the Tom Thumb
store would like to add a gas tank for premium unleaded gas and also change
the pump island to be diagonal with the building to enable them to put up
a canopy.
Chairman Jacobson asked how many tanks are there now. l1r. \villis noted that
there is one regular tank and one unleaded. Chairman Jacobson asked if this
will create the need for additional pumps. Mr. Willis noted that they will
be adding 10 hoses; there are presently 4 hoses. He also noted that they
\-lill be installing electronic heads on the pumps.
Commissioner Rogers noted that the drawing is incorrect. It only shows 5
pumps when they are actually installing 6. He also asked if they have to
cut the curb off the entry\vay. I'lr. Willis stated that they will be cutting
it back. Hr. Rogers asked how many parking spaces will be eliminated. Mr.
vlillis noted that they will not be eliminating any.
Commissioner Bosell asked if the State Fire Harshal will be giving written
approval of the plan for the tank. :~. Willis noted that they will be
receiving his approval and it will be forwarded to the city.
Commissioner Bosell asked if they intend to use the two 10,000 gallon tanks
and add another 10,000 gallon tank. Mr. Willis stated that they are; however,
~e tanks in the ground now are 12,000 gallons each. Ms. Bosell stated that
the plan presented in 1977 shows that the tanks are 10,000 gallons each, not
12,000. ~1r. Willis stated that he will check his records to see how large
the tanks actually are.
Regular Planning Commission Meeting
August 13, 1985 - Minutes
Page 2
Tom Thumb Amended SUP, Cont.)
Rich Larson, Andover Fire Marshal - noted that he looked at the plan and as
long as the tank is installed according to the specs, it should be satis-
factory. There might be a problem with the piping, however.
~lr. Willis stated that they will be replacing any piping that is bad.
Commissioner Bosell asked ~lr. Larson if it would make any difference if the
tanks are 10,000 gallons or 12,000 gallons. ~lr. Larson said no, they have
to follow the same rules. He also stated ~hat before this goes to the Council
he will have something in writing regarding this request. Commissioner
Bosell asked Mr. Larson if he looks at the installation of the tank or if
only the State Fire Marshal carnes out.
Mr. Larson stated that the State Fire Marshal assumes that the installer is
doing it correctly and that he will check on it when he has the time.
Mr. Willis noted that usually the local fire marshal or the building inspector
comes out to check on the installation.
Chairman Jacobson noted that the state says that they have preliminary
approval. It should be subject to inspection by the city Fire ~larshal and
the Building Inspector.
\t this time, Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. There was no
~ublic comment.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich to close the public hearing. Motion
carried.
Commissioner Bosell asked at what point in the installation the Fire Marshal
comes out. Mr. WIllis explained that they dig the hole for the tank, start
the piping and backfilling. That will take approximately 4 hours. The reason
for the backfilling is so the hole will not fill up with water, which would
cause the tank to float to the top. After that is done, they start piping.
This could take an entire day. The Fire Marhsal usually does his inspection
at this time. After the piping is done, they finish backfilling.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Ward that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend to the City Council approval of an amended Special Use
Permit requestec by the Torn ThQ~ Store at 15825 - 7th Avenue N.W. (PIN
18 32 24 42 0001), pursuant to Ordinance 8, Section 5.03 A and C, Section
7.03 and Section 4.26. The changes will be to move the existing island in
a diagonal fashion and to install a total of four double pumps and two
single pumps, and to install a 10,000 gallon gas tank and a canopy. The
amended Special Use Permit will be subject to the following conditions: 1)
the piping shall be coated as per the commitment by the installer: 2) it
will be noted that the pumps are older pumps, but will have new electronic
heads placed on them; 3) Installation is subject to the inspection by the
appropriate city and state inspectors; 4} Construction shall be in con for-
lance with the standards contained in National Fire Protection Association
Pamphlet 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code (19~3 edition as amended);
5) The plan will be corected to show 6 pumps rather than 5; 6) The original
installation records will be checked to determine if the existing tanks are
12,000 gallons each or 10,000 gallons. Approval is recommended for the
Regular Planning Cornnlission Meeting
August 13, 1985 - Minutes
Page 3
:Tom Thumb Amended SUP, Cant.)
following reasons: 1) The proposed use will not be detrimental to the
health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) It will not cause
serious traffic congestion or hnzards; 3) It will not seriously depreciate
surround property values; 4) It is in harmony with the general purpose and
intent of the Zoning Ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan. It should also
be noted that a public hearing was held and there was no opposition.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on September
3, 1985.
Wm. C. Rademacher Amended Special Use Permit Public Hearing (Comm. #7-85-3)
John Prest, Bill's Superette - stated that they would like to install a steel
tank with the state requirements being met. They have always carried kerosene,
but have had many requests for premium unleaded gas. Last fall they switched
the kerosene to unleaded. Now, they need another tank for the kerosene.
Originally they had proposed to eliminate one of the nozzles for diesel.
They have since decided that they would like to put in another dispenser, one
side for premium unleaded and one for kerosene. Presently there are three
10,000 gallon tanks and one 4,000 gallon tank, all steel. At the time the
tanks were put in, they were inspected by the Fire Marshal.
~hairman Jacobson asked if they are proposing to put the new pumps in closer
~o the county road. fIr. Prest stated that they will go between the two
existing dispensers. The tank itself will be closer to County Road 9, but
will be covered with concrete. ~lr. Prest also stated that last year when
the new dispensers were installed, they had new lines plumbed, so the piping
for this tank is already there.
Commissioner Bosell asked if they will end up with 22 nozzles. Mr. Prest
stated yes.
Chairman Jacobson noted that by having one pump with premium unleaded on one
side and kerosene on the other, you could have a problem with someone taking
the wrong fuel. He asked if there is something that can be done to prevent
this from happening.
!lr. Prest noted that for four years they have dispensed diesel and kerosene
from the same pump and there have been no problems. Chairman Jacobson
stated that he still has a problem with having the two fuels ;in the same
dispenser.
Rich Larson, Fire Marshal-asked if the kerosene will be there all year
around. Mr. Prest stated that he will probably take it out in the summer.
Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing.
Arnie Aker, 1550 - 181st Avenue N.W. - felt that there should be two separate
lumps for the fuels.
!10TION by Rogers, seconded by Apel to close the public hearing. llotion
carried unanimously.
Regular Planning COIT~ission Meeting
August 13 - 1985 - Minutes
Page 4
'Rademacher Amended SUP, Cont.)
Commissioner Bosell asked ~lr. Prest if they would have to make a lot of
changes to have separate pumps. Mr. Prest said that they would have to make
quite a few plumbing changes.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend to the City Council approval of an Amended Special Use
Permit requested by Wm. C. Rademacher to install a 4,000 gallon kerosene
tank and a dispenser at Bill's Superette, 14041 Round Lake Boulevard N.W.
(PIN 32 32 24 12 0077) for the following reasons: 1) The proposed use will
not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community;
2) It will not cause serious traffic congestion or hazards; 3) It will not
seriously depreciate surrounding property values; 4) It is in harmony with
the general purpose and intent of the Zoning Ordinance and the Comprehensive
Plan. A public hearing was held and there was minor opposition.
The amended Special Use Permit will be subject to the fOllowing: 1) That the
kerosene pumping facility be separated froln the unleaded p~~ps as proposed
by the owner; 2) Installation is subject to inspection by the appropriate
city and state inspectors; 3) Leak detectors will be installed; 4) Construc-
tion shall be in conformance with the standards contained in National Fire
Protection Association Pamphlet 30, Flammable and Co~~ustible Liquids Code
(1973 edition as amended~
~pproval is recommended pursuant to Ordinance 8, Section 5.03, A and C,
,ection 4.26 and Section 7.03.
Hotion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on September 3,
1985. However, it will come to the Planning Commission on August 27, 1985
so that Mr. Prest can present his plans for the separation of the unleaded
fuel and the kerosene.
Arnold Aker Lot Split (Comm. #8-85-1)
Arnold Aker, 1550 - 18lst Avenue N.W. - stated that his lot is 850' along
County Road 58 and he wants to split off approximately 312 feet. He stated
that he plans to build on the smaller lot and use the existing driveway.
The parcel with the house on it has been sold contingent upon the approval
of the lot split.
Chairman Jacobson asked how much land the County is taking for Hanson Boule-
vard. Mr. Aker stated they are taking very little.
Commissioner Rogers noted that there is an accessory building on the parcel
that will be split off and he asked ~1r. Aker if he is conducting a business
out of that building. Mr. Aker noted that he has had a business there for
the last several years.
Chairman Jacobson told Mr. Aker that he should check with the city to see
'hat kind of permit is required for that business.
It was noted that the park dedication fee will have to be paid unless there
was one paid when the property was developed by Lary Carlson.
Regular Planning Commission Meeting
August 13, 1985 - Minutes
Page 5
A. Aker Lot Split, Cont.)
Chairman Jacobson explained to ~~. Aker that he has to be careful to make sure
that the lot he is splitting off is exactly 2-1/2 acres or more.
MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Rogers that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a lot split requested
by Arnold Aker, for the property located at 1550 - 181st Avenue N.W. (PIN
02 32 24 22 0002), under Ordinance 40B, noting that this request is compliant
with Ordinance 40B. It should be noted that the smaller parcel which is to
the east of Ward Lake Drive and Soutll of 181st Avenue needs to meet the square
footage requirement of 2-1/2 acres. Further, it should be noted that there
is a 1,000 square foot garage on the parcel being split off and the applicant
has stated that he will be building a home on the parcel. In the event that
does not occur, the applicant must come back to the city for further considera-
tion. The city records need to be checked to determine if a park dedication
is required. A public hearing was held and there was no public comment. A
discussion was held regaring the extension of Hanson Boulevard, just for
informational purposes. It should also be noted that the applicant was made
aware of the permit requirements for the business he is operating out of his
garage.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on September 3,
1985.
hillip D. Hanson Variance (Comm.#8-G5-2)
Phillip Hanson - stated that he is attempting to obtain a loan so that he
can build a house; however, the bank will not loan him the money on 35 acres
so he has to split off a parcel that is less than 10 acres.. In doing this,
he ends up with less than the required 300 feet of frontage. The parcel
being split off is approximately 8 acres.
Commissioner Rogers asked ~lr. Hanson if he owns the adjoining property. Mr.
Hanson stated that he does not.
Commissioner Bosell noted that in lookiny at the wetlands map, the part of
the property along 161st Avenue with 97 feet of frontage is very wet.
Commissioner Jovanovich asked Mr. Hanson where the house will be located.
Mr. Hanson stated it will be about 600 feet north of the south property line.
Chairman Jacobson suggested that because the house will be so far back, Mr.
Hanson should obtain a copy of the driveway standards from the city.
It was also noted that the legal description provided by Mr. Hanson and signed
by Palmer Schmitt is not correct. !lr. Hanson provided the Commission with a
correct legal description.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Rosers that the Andover Planning and Zoning
:ommission recommend to the City Council approval of a variance requested by
Phillip D. Hanson for the property described as PIN 16 32 24 13 0001,
pursuant to Ordinance 8, Sections 5.04 and 6.02 to vary from the 300 foot
lot width requirement. The resulting frontage will be 267 feet. A hardship
is created due to the current metes and bounds dimensions. rlr. Hanson
Regular Planning Commission Meeting
August 13, 1985 - Minutes
Page 6
P. Hanson Variance, Cont.)
needs to apply for this variance to qualifY for a building loan. Although
he owns the property to the north, the lots to the east are not available
to increase his frontage.
Approval is recommended for the following reasons: 1) It will not adversely
affect the existing or potential use of adjacent land; 2) It is in conformance
with the Comprehensive Plan; 3) It is necessary to the reasonable use of the
land.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on September 3,
1985.
Ordinance 8 Amendment (Comm. #7-85-1)
Chairman Jacobson asked that this item be tabled until the September 24th
meeting.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Rogers to adjourn. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
~~
Vicki Volk
Commission Secretary