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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSeptember 24, 1985 CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 24, 1985 - AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes - 9/10/85 l. Carom. #9-85-2 Eugene ~val ters Variance 2. Comm. #9-85-3 GIlover-Bak Development Sketch Plan 3. Carom. #9-85-4 CreekRidge Estates Sketch Plan 4. Carom. #9-85-5 Rose Benigni Lot Split 5. Carom. #9-85-6 Roger Junglen Lot Split 6. Carom. #7-85-1 Ordinance 8 Arnendmen t-:'1inor Retail, Cant. 7. Conm1. #9-85-1 Satellite Dishes Discussion, Cant. 8. Comm. #8-85-3 Ground,vater Heat Pumps, Cant. CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 24, 1985 - MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Don Jacobson at 7:30 P.ri., Tuesday, September 24, 1985 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Apel, Bosell, Rogers, Ward Jovanovich Dave Almgren, Building Inspector; Eugene Walters; Gene Bak; Bob Grover; Ken Gust; Roger Junglen APPROVAL OF MINUTES September 10, 1985 MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Rogers to approve the minutes of September 10, 1985 as written. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1 present (Apel) vote. GROVER-BAK DEVELOPMENT SKETCH PLAN (CO~l. #9-85-3) ;ene Bak - explained that their cul-de-sac is longer than is permitted by the city. They have three options - the first is the sketch plan as submitted; the second is to put a road in between the two lots on the north side; and the third is to put a road on the south. They would, however, like to stay with Option 1. Chairman Jacobson asked if they own any plat. Mr. Bak stated that they do not. on the south end of the plat looks very additional property adjacent Mr. Jacobson noted that the close to the property line. to this house Dave Almgren stated that the house can be 10 feet from the lot line. He also noted that if you try to cut a street out of the property, the lots could end up being less than two and a half acres. He noted that, as shown, the cul- de-sac would be 900 feet long. Bob Grover felt that they could move the cul-de-sac to the east a little. Commissioner Bosell noted that it would be better to put a road to the south, but it would serve no purpose. She also told the developers to make sure that the lots that require fill be shaded on the preliminary plat. Chairman Jacobson stated that his only concern on this plat is the length of the cul-de-sac. EUGENE WALTERS VARIANCE (CO~h~. #9-85-2) ~ene Walters, 752-l57th Avenue N.W. - noted that he is looking for a variance for the size of a pole building and also for the setback off of Prairie Road. Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 24, 1985 - Minutes Page 2 E. Walters variance, Cont.) Chairman Jacobson asked if he had been turned down by the Building Inspector for a building permit. Mr. Walters stated yes. Mr. Jacobson noted that the plat map shows that there are two separate lots. The lot with the house on it is only 1.5 acres. He then explained Ordinance 8U to Mr. Walters, noting that on a parcel that is 1.5 acres his accessory buildings can only be as large as the ground coverage of the principal structure. Because this parcel is only 1.5 acres, a pole building is not permitted. Commissioner Ward asked Mr. Walters if the main reason he wants the pole building is a fear of theft or vandalism. Mr. Walters stated yes, they have some very valuable vehicles and want some place to keep them. Mr. Ward asked why the building has to be so large. Mr. Walters noted that they have three Lincolns, 2 Red Express pickups and a Datsun 280Z and he needs some place to work on them. Commissioner Bosell asked how close to prairie Road the house is, noting that the drawing shows the house is 82 feet from the road and the pole building would be 49 feet from the road. Mr. Walters felt that the figures on the drawing are incorrect. They should be reversed. Commissioner Bosell noted that the house is 960 square feet and that is how ~ig Mr. Walters' accessory building can be. The building Mr. Walters is ~sking for is more than twice the size of the house. She suggested that Mr. Walters withdraw his request. Dave Almgren, Building Inspector - noted that Mr. Walters has two separate lots. If they were combined, he would meet the requirements for a pole building, but with them separate he can only build an accessory building that is 960 square feet. There was discussion about whether the property, if combined, would be more than five acres. Several of the Commissioners felt that it would be more than five acres because on a metes and bounds description, the description goes to the centerline of the road. If the property actually is more than five acres, Mr. Walters ,would then be able to build the building he wants. Mr. Walters then requested that his variance request be withdrawn. ROGER JUNGLEN LOT SPLIT (em-1M. #9-85-6) Roger Junglen, 20 Andover Boulevard N.W. - stated that he wants to split off the front of his property, leaving a 50 foot easement to the back lot. He stated that the purpose of splitting the lot is to obtain a loan to payoff the mortgage. ~ommissioner Rogers asked if he would be creating a landlocked parcel. It was noted that the parcel would be landlocked. Mr. Junglen stated that he spoke to his attorney who told him that what he is doing is legal and the proper way to do it. Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 24, 1985 - Minutes Page 3 (Junglen Lot Split, Cont.) Commissioner Bosell noted that it is basically legal to do that as long as the road is blacktopped and meets city standards (the 50 foot easement) . In order for this lot split to be approved, the road would have to be built. Dave Almgren stated that according to the ordinance, this is not feasible. The piece he would be leaving is a little less than four acres including the easement. Taking the easement out would leave less than four acres. Ms. Bosell noted that if the front lot dimension is 322.5'and we take 50 feet off, that makes the frontage on Andover Boulevard less than 300 feet which is the ordinance requirement. The area would be compliant, but the frontage would not be. Mr. Junglen could either put the street in now, or he could otbain a surety bond for 150% of the cost of construction. Mr. Junglen stated that he would obtain a surety bond. MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Ward that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council denial of a lot split requested by Roger and Susan Junglen at 20 Andover Boulevard N.W. for the property described as Lot 9, Auditor's Subdivision 141 for the following reasons: 1) The lot split request does not meet the criteria as set out in Ordinance 40 and its amendments; a) the north lot would not meet the frontage require- ment; b) the southern lot would not meet the requirements of Ordinance 40 ~nd Ordinance 8F, Section 4.04(A) in that it would not have frontage on a ~ublicly dedicated and maintained roadway. Further, the drawing we have received indicates three lots and not two. The applicant has said it's two lots, not three. If the southern lot were developed, it would require a variance because the cul-de-sac is longer, than the 500 feet allowed by our ordinance. Discussion was had in regard to allowing the 50 foot road easement to be dedicated, with the thought that Mr. Junglen would post a bond. However, that was for informational purposes only and not a recommendation of this commission. There was no public input on this request. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on October 15, 1985. CREEK RIDGE ESTATES SKETCH PLAN tCOH.!1. #9-85-4) Ken Gust, representing the developers - noted that this development is at the end of the sewer line; it's stubbed in at South Coon Creek Drive. Chairman Jacobson explained the Shore land Management Ordinance, which the Council recently adopted. He noted that some of the lots in this plat would be impacted by the ordinance. He asked Mr. Gust what the Council's tee lings were on this plat. Mr. Gust noted that the Council liked the development. He also stated that all of Phase I would be septic systems, and not sanitary sewer. Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 24, 1985 - Hinutes Page 4 (Creek Ridge Estates, Cont.) Mr. Gust noted that the Hayor has suggested that they look at the outlot for park dedication. They will be going to the Park Board on October 3rd. Commissioner Bosell asked why Outlot B is not being developed. Mr. Gust explained that there is no way to get the sewer there. Chairman Jacobson noted that the 100 foot easements on both sides of the creek need to be shown on the preliminary plat. It was also noted that the areas needing fill have to be shown as shaded areas. The lot width of Lot 2, Block 6 should be checked to make sure that it has 300 feet of frontage at the setback line. Regarding Phase II, Commissioner Bosell stated that riparian lots may need to be larger than shown on the sketch plan. Chairman Jacobson also suggested that ~r. Gust check with the Highway Department regarding access to Round Lake Boulevard and also that they indicate the utility easements on the lots. Commissioner Rogers asked if the water will drain into Coon Creek. Mr. Gust replied yes. Mr. Gust then asked about the property known as Green Acres in Section 28. This property came in as a sketch plan several years ago and they want to mow if they can come in with a preliminary plat or if they have to start with a sketch plan. It was the cone ens us that it be a sketch plan because of the length of time that has lapsed. Recess 9:25 - Reconvene 9:35 P.M. SATELLITE DISHES DISCUSSION, CONT. CCOMM. B-85-11 This item will be continued to October 8, 1985. eRl'lINANeE- 8AMEND1-iENT- HINOR RETAIL ,'CONT . CCOHM. # 7 - 8 5-1); It was the concensus of the Commission that Chairman Jacobson inform the Council that the Commission would recommend adopting the new zoning district that is in the draft of Ordinance 8, that district being General Commercial. GROUNDWATER HEAT PUI1PS, CONT. LCm'lM. #8-85-31- Chairman Jacobson noted that there are several changes that need to be made on the draft of the ordinance he provided. He also noted that the Depart- ment of Health will give permits for new water-fed units. These permits must be obtained prior to the issuance of a building permit. 'here was some discussion on how to deal with existing systems with the suggestion being that we notify the State Health Department of those systems and let them deal with it. Regular Planning Commission Meeting September 24, 1985 - Minutes Page 5 (Groundwater Heat Pumps, Cont.} Commissioner Ward suggested changing the word 'financial' to 'economic' so that it is consistent with our other ordinances. A public hearing will be held on this ordinance on October 8, 1985 and the secretary will notify the heating contractors who are licensed in the city so that they can be at the hearing. ROSE BENIGNI LOT SPLIT (COMi\1. #9-85-5} Inasmuch as no one appeared for this item, it will be continued to October 8, 1985. ORDINANCE DISCUSSION Several ordinance violations in the city were mentioned. Chairman Jacobson questioned the fencing requirement in the swimming pool ordinance and asked that it be on the next agenda. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 9:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, L'~ Vicki Volk Commission Secretary