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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 26, 2002 () C) o o o CITY of ANDOVER. ~.0vV W1tbt:u1 I~ -,"0 -0.;2.. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING -NOVEMBER 26, 2002 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning andZoning Commission was calledto order by Chairperson Jay Squires on November 26,2002, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,Andover,Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Jay Squires, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Douglas Falk, Tony Gamache, Rex Greenwald, Dean Daninger and Paula Larsen. Commissioners absent: There were none. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Associate Planner, D. Tyler McKay Others . APPROVAL OF MINUTES. November 12,2002 Motion by Daninger, seconded by Larsen, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-present (Squires, Gamache, Greenwald), O-absent vote. PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS NORTH LAKE RIDGE FOR FIELDS DEVELOPMENT COMPANY ON PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD AND 157th A VENUE NW. (CSAH 20) Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report. Commissioner Gamache stated he saw a variance request for lot3, block2, but it is not in the resolution. He asked if this was fixed. Mr. Bednarz stated he believed it was. The developer stated they are still requesting a. variance regarding this. They are not providing the 150 by 150 area but are providing the 140 by 300 foot area. He stated any larger would result in a large tree loss. I '\ \ ) .,,-~.... ':,.j ,r -\ \..J o 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 2 Chairperson Squires asked if a 150 by 150 was designed to accommodate the structure of a primary and secondary septic system. The developer stated he thought this was outside of the primary and secondary system. Mr. Bednarz stated the 150 by 150 is exclusively for the house and accessory building. Chairperson Squires asked if it was a question of this not being buildable or a matter of tree loss. The developer stated it was a matter of tree loss. Chairperson Squires asked if this is a 150 by 150 buildable area Mr. Bednarz stated the 22,500 is present on the property but the shape is not perfectly square. The developer stated they are providing a 140 by 300 foot area which is equivalent to 37,000 square feet. All of this area is six feet above mottled soil. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Daninger, to open the public hearing at 7: 1 0 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Joe Halik, 3301 1 54th Lane asked if the variance is for the size of the house or for the lot size. Chairperson Squires stated he believed the variance is for buildable area Mr. Halik asked if this met the 2 acre minimum requirement. Mr. Bednarz stated all of the new lots would be at least 2 ~ acres. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:13 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Commissioner Daninger asked if staff was comfortable with a road going into the development. Mr. Bednarz stated it was important to note that the existing road to the west was not constructed to the east ed~e of the right of way and there is an existing driveway within that right of way. 156 will be extended through and out to Round Lake Boulevard shortening the driveway to the extension of the roadway. Motion by Falk, seconded by Larsen, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the Preliminary Plat for North Lake Ridge, subject to the conditions of the resolution. Chairperson Squires asked if the resolution accommodate the last issue regarding the 150 by 150. Mr. Bednarz stated they would need to include a provision in the resolution to reflect that. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17,2002 City Council meeting. <\ I \ ----.J o 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 3 PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (02-11) TO CREATEA RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FOR EXISTING HOUSE AT 15212 NIGHTINGALE STREET NW. Chairperson Squires stated he would be stepping down from discussion and voting because he lives in the area and believes this would be a conflict for him. Commissioner Daninger stated he would abstain from discussion because he will be moving into the neighborhood. Chairperson Squires asked Commissioner Kirchoff to take over the discussion for him. Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report. Commissioner Greenwald asked if the sidewalk trail was consistent with previous Woodland Estates developments. Mr. Bednarz stated there is an existing on street trail in the developments to the south and providing access to Sunshine Park. Commissioner Greenwald asked if it will look the same when done. Mr. Bednarz stated they are planning on doing some additional striping and signage to make people aware of an on street trail and to promote its use. ~~ Commissioner Kirchoff asked if this included the sidewalk. Mr. Bednarz stated staffis proposing an off street sidewalk be provided as well. He stated in this scenario, the developer would pay for the concrete sidewalk and the City would pay for the added street width for the on street trail. Commissioner Gamache asked if there were any variances needed for the cul-de-sacs. Mr. Bednarz stated they were fine with all the cul-de-sacs except for the extension of Uplander Street NW into the development on the west end. He stated he is not sure if there is an item in the resolution to cover this. Commissioner Gamache asked if they needed a variance for the temporary cul-de-sac. Mr. Bednarz stated a variance would not be needed because as proposed there would be a street connection to Uplander Street to the north so this would be less than 500 feet. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Larsen, to open the public hearing at 7:28 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger) O-absent vote. Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:38 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger) O-absent vote. Commissioner Falk stated he thought this development looked good and he asked Mr. Bednarz if they needed to amend the resolution for the cul-de-sac. Mr. Bednarz stated they do need to add a condition for the length of the Uplander Street cul-de-sac. Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of 0) the lot split. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), 0- '-- absent vote. o 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 4 (- -", '__I Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17,2002 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (02-0.f) TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM R-l SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO R-4 SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL NORTH OF WOODLAND ESTATES ~ ADDITION FOR WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT. Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning to allow the Woodland Estates Fourth Addition to move forward. Mr. Bednarz discussed the findings with the Commission. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:28 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. There was no additional public input. Items four through seven were opened, discussed and closed at the same time. r \ Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:38 p.m. Motion ',~J carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have changed. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17, 2002 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS WOODLAND ESTATES .fTH ADDITION FOR WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH OF WOODLAND ESTATES SECOND ADDITION. Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:28 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. Mr. Bill Stoke, 2159 l53rd Lane asked where his property line is in relation to a sketched r\ extension of Quinn St. NW. Mr. Bednarz showed a map of the lots involved. Mr. Stoke \.~) stated his concern is what they are laying out for the future and what they show for the o 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 5 / , " road R-O- W to the north is half on his property. Mr. Stoke showed a map of the extension of l53rd Lane. He stated his concern is as they put the road in, it will affect the value of his property so he is asking the developer to set the road further to the east so it does not affect his property. Mr. Stoke stated as the road progresses north in the future, they will need some of his property and he does not want this to happen. Commissioner Falk stated the sketch is one scenario of where the road could be and it is not for certain. Mr. Stoke stated he understood that but at the July meeting there was some discussion around the cul-de-sac's and that it was not set for the future and he respects what the developer is trying to do for Woodland Estates Fourth Addition, however as you go forward for this and it is put into place, someone will say the road is there and the easement is in place so it will go half into his property and he is concerned with this and wanted to flag it now. Commissioner Falk stated he thought the property owner and the developer might be able to work something out. Commissioner Gamache stated if this would happen, in order to put a street on the property, the developer would need to come to an agreement with the property owner to take the land. Mr. Bednarz stated if a road would go in the future, the property owner would need to give consent, and if the property owner decided not to be involved in the project, the roadway would not be extended on his property. Mr. Stoke stated his concern is at that point in the future, he did not know if there would be a clear discussion because \ there will be a lot of pressure to say why not expand. Mr. Bednarz stated in most cases, j right-of-way is shared by both property owners and it would be unfair to put the entire burden on the property owner to the east for a public street if it were extended some day. Commissioner Gamache asked if the area in the Nightingale Estates plat was within the MUSA boundary. Mr. Bednarz stated it was. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if Nightingale Estates plat was in the 2000 - 2005 staged area Mr. Bednarz stated a portion to the east is within the current stage and to the west has already been developed with rural residential lots. He stated the area to the west is not reflected in the sewer expansion but the sewer could be made available. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if the sketch shown, borders his property or consumes a portion of his property. Mr. Stoke stated this would consume his property. Commissioner Greenwald asked what the acreage of his property was. Mr. Stoke stated he believed it was 6 ~ acres and the width would be about 400 feet. Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:38 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. t''. \..- / Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council apJ'roval of Resolution No. _, approving the Preliminary Plat for Woodland Estates 4 Addition , ,_./ ,,--..-..... ! ) ,~ C) u () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 6 subject to the conditions of the attached resolution with the addition of a variance for the street length exceeding 500 feet. Commissioner Greenwald asked if they could move the cul-de-sac so it would not require a variance. Commissioner Falk stated they are putting it in the resolution as an addition and they are giving them the variance in the preliminary plat as a suggestion and the City Council can do what they want with it. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17, 2002 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (02-12) FOR AN AREA IDENTIFICATION SIGN FOR WOODLAND ESTATES 4TH ADDITION. Mr. Bednarz explained that the applicant is proposing to construct an Area Identification Sign for Woodland Estates 4th Addition. Ordinance 8 requires a Special Use Permit for this type of sign. Mr. Bednarz stated the proposed sign will be located at the southeast comer of the proposed development. The sign will work within the theme created by the sign for Woodland Estates Second Addition. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:28p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. There was no public input. Items four through seven were opened, discussed and closed at the same time. Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:38 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed Area Identification Sign. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2 - abstain (Squires, Daninger), O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17,2002 City Council meeting. r---.. f\ ( ) / '- \...... Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 7 / ~\ "-~ PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (02-05) TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM R-l SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO R-4 SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL FOR SHADY OAK COVE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF HANSON BOULEVARD AND 161sT A VENUE NW. (CSAH 20) Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning to allow the Shady Oak Cove project to move forward. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have changed. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17, 2002 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS SHADY OAK COVE FOR PENTA MANAGEMENT GROUP ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE f- ''\ SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF HANSON BOULEVARD '\J AND 161sT AVENUE NW. (CSAH 20) Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report. Mr. Bednarz discussed the findings with the Commission. Commissioner Daninger asked in reference to lot 2, block 2, staff was not recommending in favor of the variance and was the applicant aware of what it takes to make the building conforming. The developer stated it would be impossible to make the building conforming and would need to be removed. Mr. Bednarz stated due to the property owners desire to develop the property, it will become an urban development and it will cause the detached accessory structure to become a non-conforming structure due to its size and it is the property owners action causing the non-conformity. Staff is asking the structure either be. removed or brought into conformance with urban residential requirements for accessory buildings. Motion by Gamache seconded by Daninger, to open the public hearing at 7:49 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. There was no public input. o ~J ./ -------....\ \J /-~\ \. / x_/ o 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 8 Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Larsen, to close the public hearing at 7:50 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated both of the cul-de-sacs exceed five hundred feet maximum width and was talked about during the sketch plan review of the project. Commissioner Falk asked how a cul-de-sac road is calculated. Mr. Bednarz stated this is measured from the first opportunity to take an alternate route. Commissioner Greenwald stated they are rezoning the north portion of the entire parcel because where the cul-de-sac is to the south, will remain R-l. Mr. Bednarz stated this is true. He stated there would be a temporary cul-de-sac. Commissioner Daninger stated the resolution does not indicate the variance for the cul- de-sacs. Mr. Bednarz stated variances for the extended cul-de-sac would need to be added to the resolution. Chairperson Squires asked if it was necessary to have in the resolution a condition regarding the removal of the accessory building. Mr. Bednarz stated if the Commission agrees that the building should be removed, a condition would be needed. Commissioner Greenwald stated on the area that it zoned R-l to the south, are the neighboring property owners aware that this is what is going to happen. Mr. Bednarz stated the property owner was at the sketch plan public hearing and his primary concern was that he had the potential to develop in the future and that this development did not eliminate his access to the north. He stated the property owner was satisfied that the cul- de-sac could be extended to the south to incorporate his property. Motion by Daninger, seconded by Larsen, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the Preliminary Plat for Shady Oak Cove subject to the conditions in the attached Resolution with the addition of item six, a variance to the two cul-de-sacs, Eagle Street on both ends of the cul-de-sac and add item seven that the condition to the preliminary plat, block 2, lot 2, that the outbuilding is removed or reconfigured to become conforming to the urban residential requirements. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17,2002 City Council meeting. ( " , I \. / o 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 9 PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (02-06) TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO R-4 SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL FOR CONSTANCE CORNERS ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 16034 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. Mr. McKay explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning to allow the Constance Corners project to move forward. Mr. McKay discussed the findings with the Commission. He stated there are no outstanding issues to be addressed and there will be no variances needed with this development. Commissioner Gamache stated when they first saw this, there were some outlots they were setting up to possibly sell to the church and he wondered if they were still interested , in purchasing them. Mr. McKay stated the church decided to not go ahead with it but he was approached today and told that the church is again interested in it but there has been no discussion and he planned on talking to the church about it to see what they had in mind. He stated it would involve selling five additional feet up in the north east section and there would be enough room for this. /' \ \._/ Chairperson Squires asked in item 12, what the sign would look like. Mr. McKay showed a drawing of the sign. Mr. McKay stated this conformed to all the requirements the City currently has. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if the sign was lighted. The developer stated they did not have an association that would be able to maintain it, but something could be worked out if it was required. Commissioner Daninger asked if there was any question regarding utilities. Mr. McKay stated there was access to City water and sewer for the north of the development but in the cul-de-sac area and a couple of lots at the south end has not been determined yet if it will come through Red Pine Fields or if a lift station would need to be put in and this would be determined with a feasibility report. McKay stated this may need to wait until the capacity would be brought up if one of the options does not pull through. Commissioner Daninger asked if this waits, does this get developed. Mr. McKay stated it would be developed but what he was told by the Assistant City Engineer, it would have to wait until the capacity was brought :from the south. Mr. Bednarz stated the City would not issue permits on those properties until sewer was available. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to open the public hearing at 8:06 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. () Mr. Leon Opatz, 1321 Andover Boulevard stated he would clarify the water and sewer issue. He showed a layout of the property and stated there was an existing water and r \ '-_/ o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 10 o sewer stub from Red Pine Field, up at the north end and about six hundred feet from their property. He stated the latest discussion they have had with the engineering staffwas to extend the water and sewer from the north end of the project and would extend all the way through the development into the wetland to accommodate the homes to the south. He stated they would construct a gravity sanitary sewer which would extend to the lift station. Commissioner Gamache asked if they needed to get approval from the watershed to bring the sewer through there. Mr. Opatz stated they would need to get their approval along with the DNR approval. Chairperson Squires stated there are items listed in the resolution which would require those approvals. He stated there may need to be some engineering issues that would need to be worked out before building permits would be issued. Mr. Bednarz stated the feasibility report would raise those issues when done. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 8:12 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Commissioner Larsen asked if the cul-de-sac on Sycamore Street would need a variance. Mr. McKay stated they would not need a variance for the length. : , ''-J Commissioner Daninger stated in the future to have larger maps in the meeting packets for review. Commissioner Greenwald asked if the property owners could work out the five foot issue on their own. Mr. McKay stated he believed they could work this out. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if this development would require turn lanes because it is a County Road. Mr. McKay stated he has not gotten any information from the County requiring the turn lanes. Mr. Bednarz stated they do not have review comments from the County regarding the plat, but there is the boiler plate statement in there and that requirement, if they choose to make it, will appear at the time that they want to get a right of way permit. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request based on the reason that times and conditions have changed. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17,2002 City Council meeting. (-~ \~) ( '-. . o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 11 o '_J PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS CONSTANCE CORNERS FOR BRUEGGEMAN HOMES ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 16034 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARDNW. Mr. McKay explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the preliminary plat submitted by Bruggeman Properties, LLC of Constance Corners, an urban residential plat creating 42 single family residential lots to be created from property located to the southwest of the intersection of Crosstown Boulevard and 161 51 Avenue NW (CSAH 20). The proposed project area is approximately 26.8 acres and would include 42 units. The proposed density (1.14 units per acre) conforms with the low density land use designation from the Comprehensive Plan for the property which allows up to 3 units per acre without PUD review. Mr. McKay further discussed the information with the Commission. He stated the proposed project would be provided access from l6lst Avenue NW (eSAH 20) from the north, Crosstown Boulevard (CSAH 18) from the east and Sycamore Street from the south. A public street to be named Sycamore would be extended into the project and end in a cul-de-sac. The street will be 30 feet wide within a 60 foot wide right of way as required by the City's minor urban street requirements. (J Mr. McKay stated four inches of black dirt and sod are required to be installed within all boulevard areas. The standard urban drainage and utility easements will be provided as a part of this project as indicated on the preliminary plat. All of the lots will meet or exceed the R-4 Single Family Urban Residential requirements as indicated on the preliminary plat drawing. Mr. McKay stated the Park and Recreation Commission recommended that park dedication fees be collected for this development. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to open the public hearing at 8:06 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. There was no additional public input. Items ten through twelve were opened, discussed and closed at the same time. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 8:12 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. !~ I\._j Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the Preliminary Plat for "Constance Corners" subject to the conditions in the proposed resolution and the changes specified in the engineering department's memo. r ..., , ,.J , -\ \ ' ....J r" ......j o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 12 ~ u Commissioner Daninger asked if they needed a condition for a cul-de-sac variance. Mr. McKay stated he believed they did not need one but would look into it. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, a-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17,2002 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (02-13) FOR AN AREA IDENTIFICATION SIGN FOR CONSTANCE CORNERS ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 16034 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW Mr. McKay explained that Bruggeman Properties wishes to install two permanent area identification signs at the entrances to Constance Comers, a proposed 42 unit single family development on Crosstown and 1 60th Avenue. Mr. McKay discussed the information with the Commission. He stated Bruggeman Properties wished to install two permanent area identification signs at the entrances to Constance Corners, a proposed 42 unit single family development on Crosstown and 1 60th Avenue. He stated the area identification signs for this development would not have a negative effect on the surrounding area, and is a standard addition to a number of developments within Andover. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to open the public hearing at 8:06 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, a-nays, O-absent vote. There was no additional public input. Items ten through twelve were opened, discussed and closed at the same time. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 8: 12 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to approve the Special Use Permit (02-13) be approved subject to the conditions in the proposed resolution. Mr. Bednarz stated they would like to have some type of graphic for the City Council regarding the sign. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 17, 2002 City Council meeting. f- 00 f ' / " , J '_/ ,r '\ \.J o o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 26, 2002 Page 13 OTHER BUSINESS. Mr. Bednarz mentioned that there will not be a second meeting in December unless there are pressing issues because of Christmas. Mr. Bednarz stated he had an update regarding the Woodland Estates Third Addition proposal. He stated that the property is currently in Ag. Preserve so that project will not be able to move forward until 2007. Mr. Bednarz stated the City had an open house for the Rural Reserve on November 20, 2002 but he was not able to attend. He heard it was well attended by property owners and it gave the property owners an opportunity to look at the sewer and transportation studies. Mr. Bednarz stated they are in the process of putting together an annual report for this year and they will summarize their activities. Chairperson Squires stated he believed this would be his last meeting because he is not seeking to be reappointed. Mr. Bednarz stated they are seeking applications for the Planning Commission. Commissioner Daninger stated he would like to acknowledge Chairperson Squires for his fine and excellent service over the last ten years and it has been a pleasure to serve with him. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to adjourn the meeting at 8:24 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Respectfully submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.