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CITY of ANDOVER
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - DECEMBER 10,2002
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Acting Chairperson Daninger on December 10, 2002, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Acting Chairperson Dean Daninger, Commissioners Tim
Kirchoff, Douglas Falk, Rex Greenwald and Paula Larsen.
Commissioners absent:
Chairperson Jay Squires, Commissioner Tony Gamache.
Also present:
City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Others
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
November 26, 2002
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays~ 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (02-12) TO CREATE A NEW RURAL
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AT 17680 ARROWHEAD STREET NWFOR DONALD
AND VALERIE HOLTHUS.
. Mr. Bednarz explained that the information has changed and the field survey is incorrect
and if the land. survey moves forward they may be. looking for a. variance regarding
buildability.
Commissioner Falk asked if the buildability would affect both lots. Mr. Bednarz stated it
would only affect the lot that is not built on. Mr. Bednarz stated the site is heavily treed
and they can not get the perfect 150 foot by 150 foot square.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to postpone the lot split request indefinitely.
Motion carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
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\~ j PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (02-07) TO CHANGE THE ZONING
DESIGNATION FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO R-4
SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1444
161sT A VENUE NW (CSAH 20) FOR MARK TIBBETTS.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed
rezoning to allow the Maple Hollow Project to move forward.
Mr. Bednarz stated the property is located within the 2020 Metropolitan Urban Service
Area (MUSA) and also within the current phase of sewer expansion (2000-2005) in the
City's Comprehensive Plan. Times and conditions have changed with the availability of
utilities and it is appropriate to rezone the property at this time to allow an urban
residential development.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Greenwald, to open the public hearing at 7:12 p.m.
Motion carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Larsen, to close the public hearing at 7:12 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
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'0 Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Falk, to recommend to the City Council approval of'
Resolution No. _, approving the Rezoning from R-l Single Family Rural Residential
to R-4 Single Family Urban Residential for Property located at 1444 l61st Avenue NW
(CSAH 20) for Mark Tibbetts. Motion carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires,
Gamache) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 7,2003 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS MAPLE HOLLOW FOR
MARK TIBBETTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1444 161sT AVENUE NW.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning and Zoning Commission is asked to review a
preliminary plat for Maple Hollow. The proposed project will create 6 urban residential
lots. The design of the project substantially conforms to the sketch plan previously
reviewed by the Planning Commission and City Council.
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Mr. Bednarz stated the Park and Recreation Commission recommended that park
dedication and trail fees be collected for the proposed development. He stated there will
be a trail constructed at some point but it has not been required by the City, this would be
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a policy change to try and require this. He stated the lots on the south side of the cul-de-
sac are a little unusual because they are turned to accommodate six lots.
Commissioner Greenwald asked when lot width is figured, it is based on an average. Mr.
Bednarz stated the lot width is measured at the front setback. He stated they do meet the
eighty foot width and exceed it with the arc. At some point, the City should look at a
minimum lot width at the front property line in the cul-de-sac's to ensure adequate space
for driveways, mailboxes and snow storage. Lot depth is an average of three measures,
which allows some odd shape lots to be created. If the lot depth minimum is 130 feet, the
city may want to look at requiring that depth throughout the entire lot.
Commissioner Falk stated what the City would like to achieve is a square instead of a pie
buildability on cul-de-sac's.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked iflot six would face and access Crane Street. Mr. Bednarz
stated this was true and the front of the lot is the shorter of two sides and the front of the
house has to face the front of the lot, so the address would be on Crane Street. He stated
they may try to build the garage behind the house for access into the cul-de-sac, which
would be preferable.
Mr. Bednarz stated they will be putting a drainage pond on the plat and will drain water
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This is a small development and the drainage areas are not too restrictive on the useable
space of the lots. However, in larger development drainage swales across a number of
backyards can become quite wide and affect future homeowners ability to use this space
or add decks or porches in the future. He stated that he would like to see the city require
the use of storm water conduit and catch basins to minimize the amount of backyard
space that is unuseable.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if adding a pipe would add a lot to the price of the
development. Mr. Bednarz stated it would increase the infrastructure cost and there
would need to be some sort of a policy shift for this to happen. Acting Chairperson
Daninger stated this would be the question that would need to be discussed in the future
with other plats.
Commissioner Falk asked if the drainage would affect the buildability of the land. Mr.
Bednarz stated lots three through five would be the lots that would have the drainage over
the property so they would have some slope to the land and it is a factor to this plat.
Acting Chairperson Daninger stated the developer has taken the Planning Commissions
recommendation in the past and they could suggest this to them but he does not want to
change things this far into the project.
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,,,--,-' Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Larsen, to open the public hearing at 7:38 p.m.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Larsen, to close the public hearing at 7:38 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
Acting Chairperson Daninger stated they should note the storm drainage pipe has been
discussed thoroughly in the meeting and will be looked at further in the future with other
plats.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Kirchoff, to recominend approval of the preliminary
plat of a single family residential development to be known as Maple Hollow for Mark
Tibbetts on property located at 1444 161 st Avenue NW. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, 0-
nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 7, 2003 City
Council meeting.
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Mr. Bednarz mentioned that the City Clerk sent out disclosure forms to them and they
need those back.
Acting Chairperson Daninger asked if the applications for Planning Commission are
closed now. Mr. Bednarz stated it is and they have nineteen applications for the three
positions in the Planning Commission and almost as many for the Park Board.
Mr. Bednarz stated the Woodland Creek Golf Course submitted their information to them
this week and two more developers are planning on making a submission by the January
2003 deadline.
Acting Chairperson Daninger and the other Commissioners publicly thanked
Commissioner Larsen for her short time on the Planning Commission and wished her
luck.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Larsen, to adjourn the meeting at 7:45 p.m. Motion carried
on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires, Gamache) vote.
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Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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