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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JANUARY 14,2003
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
. called to order by Chairperson Daninger on January 14,2003, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Douglas Falk, Tony
Gamache, Rex Greenwald (left at 8:00 p.m.), Jonathan
Jasper and Dean Vatne.
Commissioners absent: Commissioner Tim Kirchoff.
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Others
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\~ APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
December 10, 2002
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Falk, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on a 6-aye, O~nays, I-absent vote.
SWEARING IN OF NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS
Chairperson Daninger Întroduced the two new Planning Commission members and each
Commissioner read the Oath of Office.
VARIANCE (03-01) TO VARY FROM THE 2.5 ACRE MINIMUM PAR CEL AREA
REQUIRED TO SHELTER HORSES ONPROPERTY LOCATED AT 17303 ROUND
LÂKE BOULEVARDNW.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Bodes are requesting a variance to the 2.5-acre
requirement for keeping a horse on property within the City of Andover. Mrs. Bode is
very allergic to horses, except for the American Curley breed she owns. They have lost
r-\ the ability to board this horse on a neighboring property and boarding it with other breeds
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<, -) of horses would cause a severe allergic reaction to the owner. The property in question is
2.178 acres in size.
Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report.
Mr. and Mrs. Bode, 17303 Round Lake Boulevard introduced themselves and explained
the situation to the Commission.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the letters from the neighbors were from all the adjoining
neighbors. Mrs. Bode stated they were.
Commissioner Falk stated he was going to abstain from discussion because he knew the
petitioner.
Commissioner Gamache asked if the petitioner was able to purchase some of the
neighbors land for additional land. Mr. Bode stated there is a power line, which goes
across the property so he is unable to purchase any more land. Commissioner Gamache
asked if it could be classified a hardship if they are not able to purchase more land
because of an easement. Mr. Bednarz stated it could be considered a hardship.
Chairperson Daninger asked if the easement from the power company could be included
.'0 in the acreage. Mr. Bednarz stated the land below the easement could be included in the
acreage.
Commissioner Vatne asked if the agreement with the neighbors for exercising the horse
is adjacent to their property. Mrs. Bode stated it was.
Commissioner Gamache stated the nature of the neighborhood and when this was platted,
did not have the two and a half acre minimum in the R-l district. He stated he believed
they were presenting enough of a hardship to grant a variance. Commissioner Greenwald
stated he disagreed with Commissioner Gamache. He stated he would like to see some
documentation in regards to a hardship because he could not find any.
Commissioner Gamache asked if there is an option to change the Ordinance instead of
granting a variance. Mr. Bednarz stated the Planning Commission could recommend to
the Council that the ordinance be changed. Commissioner Jasper stated instead of
changing the Ordinance, this might be a unique situation because they would have the
adjacent ten acres of land to exercise the horse.
Commissioner Vatne stated from a hardship standpoint, there is an issue of availability of
adjacent property for sale.
Discussion ensued regarding the option of changing the Ordinance versus a variance.
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, 1 Mr. Bode described the location of his land. He also stated that their land is more than
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adequate for a horse and allows for an exercise area for the horse. He stated he could not
buy the land from the neighbor because of restrictions.
Commissioner Greenwald stated he has a big problem with giving a variance to someone
when it does not involve a condition of the land.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council denial of
Resolution No. _, because no findings could be found for a hardship to grant a
variance. Motion carried on a 3-ayes, 1 abstain (Falk), 2-nays (Jasper, Gamache), 1-
absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (02-05) TO
EXPAND THE MUSA BOUNDARY TO INCLUDE THE WOODLAND CREEK
GOLF COURSE LOCATED A T 3200 SOUTH COON CREEK DRIVE.
Mr. Bednarz stated the mailing that was sent out did not include all of the properties
, '\ within 350 feet, but a legal notice was posted in the newspaper. He stated there were a
couple of options the Commission could follow, they could postpone hearing this case
\J until everyone was notified of the public hearing or they could review the proposals and
make a recommendation to the City Council. He stated in order for the developer to
move ahead with the project this year, the City Council would need to approve this before
the January 31 sl deadline.
Commissioner Greenwald stated this was an involved discussion before so he felt
uncomfortable making a decision without all of the parties involved having a choice to
voice their opinion.
Chairperson Daninger asked if it would be an option to extend the deadline on these
items. Mr. Bednarz stated the City Council could extend the deadline when they review
this and if the City Council needs to send it back for further information and review.
Discussion continued in regards to discussing the items and recommending them to the
City Council for a Public Hearing and possible extension until February 2003.
The Commission reaffirmed that the City posted the Public Hearing in the newspaper and
felt this item was worth discussing and if needed would be brought back at a future
meeting for more discussion. The Commission also decided to send out a new notice
including the minutes of the Planning Commission for the City Council meeting on
January 21,2003.
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¡ Motion by Falk, Seconded by Gamache, to continue with the items on the agenda.
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Motion carried on a 4 ayes, 0 nay, 2 abstain (Jasper, Greenwald), 1 absent (Kirchoff)
vote.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the applicant is proposing an urban development with
municipal utilities. The proposed project area is currently outside the 2020 Metropolitan
Urban Service Boundary (MUSA).
Mr. Bednarz introduced the applicant. Mr. Ron Vanelli, owner of Woodland Creek Golf
Course. He stated they are seeking improvements to the golf course along with eleven
units to the development. He made a presentation to the Commission and discussed the
additions and improvements to the golf course and clubhouse. He stated the main issue
that needed to be addressed was the design adjacent to homes along the golf course. He
stated they addressed the issues of site in relation to the adjacent homes. He stated the
new homes will improve the value of the neighboring properties.
Mr. Bednarz stated the applicant is requesting that the Woodland Creek Golf Course be
brought into the MUSA to allow the proposed Woodland Creek Golf Course Villas
project to be constructed. The clubhouse facility would also connect to municipal sewer
and water when it becomes available. The remainder ofthe golf course beyond the
proposed development site and the clubhouse area lies within a flood plain and is not
,- buildable. The site is currently zoned R-4 Single Family Urban Residential, a zoning
.~ designation that is designed for urban residential development. However, the site
remains outside the 2020 Metropolitan Urban Service Boundary (MUSA).
Mr. Bednarz stated the entire golf course currently carries an Open Space (OS)
. designation on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map. An Urban Residential Low
Density (URL) designation would need to be placed over the 4.08 acres proposed to be
brought into the MUSA for urban residential development. These adjustments will align
the Land Use and Zoning Designations of the property and allow the proposed residential
development to move forward.
Mr. Bednarz stated the sanitary sewer is currently located uphill along South Coon Creek
Drive. As a result of the topography and depth of the sewer trunk, a lift station would be
necessary to transmit sewage from the proposed development uphill to the trunk sewer.
Sufficient capacity exists within the trunk sewer line to accommodate the proposed
expansion. Staff is working with the applicant to design a temporary lift station that can
be eliminated when the trunk sewer is extended north from the Coon Rapids Interceptor
along Coon Creek. A trunk waterline also exists along South Coon Creek Drive.
Sufficient capacity exists to serve the proposed development. Staff is advocating that the
water lateral be looped through the development and back to the trunk water line to
ensure adequate flow and to improve water quality.
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,~' Mr. Bednarz stated if approved, this land use change will be forwarded to the
Metropolitan Council for their review. This would be considered a minor
Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Mr. Bednarz stated the second paragraph in the Resolution is a partial duplicate of first
paragraph and should be deleted.
Mr. Bednarz stated the City is requesting the applicant provide two easements. The first
is to provide a sixty-foot wide drainage and utility easement to be provided along the
west bank of South Coon Creek Drive. The second easement will cover the south limit of
the storm water pond to allow access.
Commissioner Greenwald left at 8:00 p.m.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to open the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Mr. Mike Charen, 3336 South Coon Creek Drive stated he was one of the two affected
properties affected by this development. He stated he would prefer a development not to
go in but Mr. Vanelli 'has made efforts to work with him.
-- -." Mr. Curt Murdy, 14421 Jonquil Street stated this is the first time he was made aware of
\ this and the only concern he has is they have a good view of the golf course even though
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their property does not abut the golf course, along with other residents and he does not
want to lose that view. He stated he is also concerned with the impact on the City Park in
the area; he wants to make sure they continue having access to the park and maybe
upgrade the park. Mr. Bednarz stated the park is small in size with some old playground
equipment. The Park Commission will discuss this item and potential improvements to
the park at their meeting on January 16th.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Falk, to close the public hearing at 8:21 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Commissioner Gamache asked if this is the same number of units as what was on the
previous preliminary. Mr. Bednarz stated it was.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the discussion has taken place between the developers and
Park Commission. Mr. Vanelli stated they will be discussing this at the next meeting.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the sixty-foot wide utility easement is only for the sewer
line and not for other developments. Mr. Bednarz stated the utility easement would be
between Round Lake Boulevard and Nightingale. He stated the project will be designed
with a temporary lift station which could be removed when the trunk sewer is installed
along Coon Creek so they will not have the on-going maintenance issue of the lift station.
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I j Commissioner Jasper stated at the previous public hearing the issue involved eleven lots.
He was wondering if there was any reason in developing eleven lots instead often. Mr.
Bednarz stated it was staff and Planning Commission recommendation to go down to ten
units but the City Council was' concerned that if this went to an R-4, the City would not
have any input in the overall look of the development.
Commissioner Jasper asked if adding additional foliage would be a problem. Mr. Mike
Olsen, co-owner, stated they could work with the staff regarding this.
Commissioner Jasper stated he looked at the landscaping plan very closely and was
wondering if there was a fountain outside of every home. Mr. Olsen stated there was
because it adds to the aesthetics of the homes. Commissioner Jasper stated he liked that
idea.
Commissioner Vatne asked in regards to parking, will they have enough capacity with the
golf course and restaurant. Mr. Olsen stated they would have enough spaces. He stated
they are going from forty-seven to seventy-five parking spaces.
Commissioner Falk asked if they were planning on expanding the clubhouse. Mr. Olsen
stated they were not looking at expanding', just improving.
Commissioner Vatne asked what determines parking space ratios. Mr. Bednarz stated the
. \ parking ratio is based on the use and square footage of the building.
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Commissioner Vatne asked regarding the exterior design, have they looked into options
of meeting the Ordinance. Mr. Vanelli stated in this scenario, they have tried to locate
projects abutting each other for a break. They have added more brick from the previous
discussions and are still looking at the option of a stucco exterior versus siding. He stated
they are aware of concerns and will be trying to blend this into the neighborhood.
Chairperson Daninger stated in the resolution, the color scheme will be reflected. In
reference to the sign, there does not appear to be a problem, but they need to address the
easement. Mr. Vanelli stated they have documented the easement in the association.
Chairperson Daninger stated they also need to address the issue of additional trees within
the development.
Commissioner Gamache stated previously there were two property owners greatly
affected by this, and one sold their property, which was his concern, and the other was
satisfied so he did not feel there was a problem anymore unless there was a resident that
had concerns that were not addressed yet.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the Comprehensive Plan Amendment (02-05) to expand
the MUSA Boundary to include the Woodland Creek Golf Course located at 3200 South
.' , Coon Creek Drive. Motion carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
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Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (02-13) TO SUBDIVIDE A PARCEL FROM THE
WOODLAND CREEK GOLF COURSE FOR A PROPOSED URBAN RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT AT 3200 SOUTH COON CREEK DRIVE.
Mr. Bednarz explained that Olvan Properties has requested a lot split to separate a
development site for the Woodland Creek Golf Course Villas from the remainder of the
Woodland Creek Golf Course. An attached drawing illustrates the 4.08-acre site that is
proposed.
Mr. Bednarz stated a separate site needs to be created for the proposed development to
define the limits of the Woodland Creek Golf Villas homeowners association.
The Zoning ofthe subject property is R-4, Single Family Urban Residential. The
proposed lots conform to the lot width, depth and area requirements of Ordinance 8,
Section 6.02 for this district.
,- '''\ A sixty-foot wide drainage and utility easement is being required to facilitate future trunk
, ,-.J sewer extension along Coon Creek as a part of the lot split. The easement will be located
along the west side of Coon Creek on Tract B. A condition has been added to the
resolution to reflect this requirement. An easement is also needed around the south edge
of the proposed storm water pond. Sufficient easement is provided on Tract A for this
feature, but no easement is shown for the portion of the pond that encroaches onto Tract
B. A condition has been added to the resolution to reflect this requirement.
The Park and Recreation Commission have acknowledged that Park Dedication was
previously satisfied as a part of the Woodland Estates development. A Trail fee will be
assessed as a part of the preliminary plat for Woodland Creek Golf Villas.
Access will be provided to both the golf course and the proposed development from
South Coon Creek Drive. A public street will be constructed and 60-foot wide right-of-
way will be dedicated as a part of the preliminary plat for Woodland Creek Golf Villas.
The existing maintenance building and picnic shelter will be removed from the site. A
! new maintenance building will be constructed to the west of Tract A. Access to the new
maintenance building will be provided through the existing access easement that connects
to 142nd A venue to the southwest. A Commercial Site Plan application is needed for this
improvement.
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Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to open the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
There was no public input. See discussion from the previous item.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Falk, to close the public hearing at 8:21 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Commissioner Gamache asked if there was an opportunity for a public trail access from
l42nd Ave. to the golf course. Mr. Vanelli stated they would prefer access remain from
South Coon Creek Drive.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the Lot Split (02-13) to subdivide a parcel from the
Woodland Creek Golf Course for a proposed urban residential development at 3200
South Coon Creek Drive. Motion carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
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~~ PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (02-14) FOR PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND AREA IDENTIFICATION SIGN FOR
WOODLAND CREEK GOLF COURSE VILLAS AT 3200 SOUTH COON CREEK
i DRIVE.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning Commission is asked to review a Special Use
Pennit request to develop a Planned Unit Development (PUD) consisting of 11 detached
townhouse units on approximately four acres of the Woodland Creek Golf Course.
Approval of the Special Use Pennit will allow the development to be constructed
according to alternative development standards created specifically for this development.
The proposed project will consist of one level luxury single-family townhouses with over
2,300 square feet of finished living space per dwelling. This is a different type of
housing that can help to achieve the life cycle housing goal called for in the City's
Comprehensive Plan. Strict adherence to the R-4 standards would not preclude this
development. With one lot removed and a few feet of lot depth added, the development
could meet the standard R-4 requirements.
There are residential properties to the immediate northwest of the proposed development.
The owners of the first two properties have indicated that they are opposed to the
proposed development. Minutes from the sketch plan public hearing are attached to
:~~) detail comments made at the meeting.
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\. ) A detail of the landscaping around the base of the units is provided in the attachments. A
variety of plant material and landscaping features such as a fountain and landscaping
stones are used to complement the structures. The front yards provide one overstory tree
per unit. The right-of-way on the north side of the proposed right-of-way will need to be
cleared of the existing vegetation to allow the street and utilities to be constructed. The
existing vegetation in Cree~idge Park will remain. Ornamental arborvitae trees would
be used to screen the lift station to be located on the north side of the proposed roadway.
The applicant has asked to work with the Park and Recreation Commission to determine
wh¡~t other types of landscaping adjustments can be made to improve the north side of the
proposed roadway. Screening between the golf course parking area and Lot I will be
provided with eight-foot tall arborvitae plant material.
The rear yards are proposed to consist primarily of mature evergreens that will remain or
be relocated from other areas of the site. Twelve additional trees are proposed to provide
tree cover in other areas of the rear yards. The rear yard landscaping is deficient,
especially from lot 1 to Lot 5 and between Lots 9 and 10. The evergreen trees will
separate the golf course from the proposed development, but the remaining 12 trees will
not provide a level oflandscaping that is similar to other townhouse projects that have
been approved in the past. The applicant has stated that it is their intent to preserve views
of the golf course. Staff is recommending that one additional overstory deciduous tree be
added per unit (11 trees).
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development. Staff recommends that these structures be contained within a planting bed
with low growing shrubs and other landscaping elements to soften their appearance.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to open the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
There was no public input. See discussion from previous items.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Falk, to close the public hearing at 8:21 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the Special Use Permit and sign with the addition of
adding additional trees to the rear of the development and modifications listed in the
report to the exterior of the townhomes and elevations and the developer maintain the oak
grove between the new development and the existing houses and correct the
typographical error in the resolution from seven (7) units to eleven (11) units.
Motion carried on a 4-aye, I-nays, I-absent, and 1 abstain (Jasper) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21, 2003
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PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WOODLAND CREEK GOLF
COURSE VILLAS FOR OL VAN PROPERTIES AT 3200 SOUTH COON CREEK
DRIVE.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning and Zoning Commission is asked to review a
preliminary plat for Woodland Creek Golf Course Villas, an 11 lot urban subdivision.
Mr. Bednarz explained that Ordinance 10 outlines the requirements for preliminary plat
review. The Planning Commission shall determine whether the proposed subdivision is in
conformity with the Comprehensive Plan, and shall take into consideration the
requirements of the City and the best use of the land. Particular attention shall be given
to the arrangement, location and widths of streets, drainage and lot sizes.
Access would be provided from South Coon Creek Drive as indicated on the attached
drawings. The proposed street would be widened at the intersection to allow one
entrance and two exit lanes. The existing driveway to the golf course would be
reconstructed within the existing 60-foot wide access easement through the City Park.
The roadway would turn west and extend approximately 720 feet into the site before
tenninating in a cul-de-sac. The street and associated right-of-way will confonn to the
City's urban local street requirements (33 feet wide within a 60 foot wide right-of-way).
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\~ A variance to the 500-foot maximum cul-de-sac length of Ordinance 10, Section 9.03 is
needed as a part of the preliminary plat. Staff would support a variance to the 500-foot
maximum length due to the fact that there is no feasible way to loop the street back out to
South Coon Creek Drive and the remaining developable land could not be accessed.
Also, reducing the length of the street to 500 would minimize the space between the first
unit and the golf course parking area.
A trail will be constructed along the south side of South Coon Creek Drive as part of a
future public improvement project. The developer is proposing an eight-foot wide
bituminous trail from the intersection with South Coon Creek Drive to the parking area
for the golf course. The trail would be located on the east side of the intersection.
The applicant will petition the City for the construction of connections to water and sewer
service. A twenty-foot wide drainage and utility easement will be located between units
5 and 6 over stonn water conduit to be installed as a part of the public improvement
project. An additional easement will cover the retention area at the south end of the site.
Right-of-way for the proposed street will be dedicated to the City. A blanket access
provision will be included in the association documents to allow the City access to other
areas of the site.
Stonn water from the development will generally be routed to a new stonn water pond at
the south edge of the development. An overflow connection will be established with the
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~~ Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to open the public hearing at 8: 15 p.m. Motion
carried on as-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
There was no public input. See discussion from previous items.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Falk, to close the public hearing at 8:21 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the preliminary plat for Woodland Creek Golf course
Villas subject to the conditions ofthe attached resolution. Motion carried on a 5-aye, 0-
nays, 2-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (03-02) TO ALLOW INTOXICATING
LIQUOR TO BE SERVED AT THE WOODLAND CREEK GOLF COURSE
LOCATED AT 3200 SOUTH COON CREEK DRIVE.
\ Mr. Bednarz explained that the applicant is seeking approval of a Special Use Permit for
\J an on sale liquor license within the principal structure of the subject property.
Ordinance 8, Section 5.03 provides the criteria to be considered in reviewing special use
permit applications. These are as follows:
1. The effect of the proposed use upon the health, safety, morals and general welfare
of the occupants of the surrounding land.
2. The effect on existing and anticipated traffic conditions including parking
facilities on adjacent streets and land.
3. The effect on the values of property and the scenic views in the surrounding area.
4. The effect of the proposed use on the comprehensive plan.
Minnesota State Statue 340A.504, Subdivision 6 states:
A municipality may further limit the hours ofthe sale of alcoholic beverages, provided
that further restricted hours must apply equally to sales of3.2 percent malt liquor and
intoxicating liquor. A city may not permit the sale of alcoholic beverages during hours
when the sale is prohibited by this section.
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, The proposal conforms to all applicable ordinances. Woodland Creek Golf Course is
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proposing to remodel the second level of the existing clubhouse to create a restaurant
where liquor would be served. The restaurant is planned to be open year-round for lunch
and dinner, closing around 11 :00 pm. Currently, Andover allows on-sale liquor Monday
- Saturday from 8:00 am to 1 :00 am, and Sundays from 8:00 am to 10:00 pm. If the
council wishes to further limit the hours that alcohol may be sold at the restaurant, the
changes would need to be enacted citywide, not just limited to this establishment.
The parking area will be reconstructed to provide additional parking (75 total stalls). The
parking area will be constructed with curb & gutter to conform to city specifications.
Increases in traffic should be minimal, and the proposed restaurant should not negatively
affect surrounding property values.
Commissioner Gamache asked if there was a required sales ratio for liquor being sold.
Mr. Vanelli stated in exploring this, the requirements are either 70/30 or 60/40, food to
liquor, which they intend to comply with.
Chairperson Daninger asked what style of restaurant this will be. Mr. Vanelli stated they
are looking at offering a sports style lunch and a dinner that will consist of steak, pasta
and other food. He stated they are looking at using pine on the inside to go with the
theme. He stated this would not be fine dining but the décor will be conducive of family
dining.
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Commissioner Jasper asked ifthere will be a bar in the restaurant. Mr. Vanelli stated
there would be a small bar which would accommodate around fifteen people.
Commissioner Jasper asked if they will be selling liquor on the golf course and make
liquor available to take onto the golf course. Mr. Vanelli stated they would be and they
realized they would be responsible as to whom they sell the liqùor to on the course.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to open the public hearing at 9:09 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Jasper, to close the public hearing at 9:09 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Falk, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the allowance of intoxicating liquor subject to the
conditions of the attached resolution including the applicant has to meet all requirements
by the City for the percentage of liquor/food ratio. Motion carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-
absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21, 2003
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PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (03-01) TO
CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM URBAN RESIDENTIAL LOW
DENSITY (URL) TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY (URM) FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13311 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the applicant is requesting a Comprehensive Plan Land Use
Map Amendment to change the Land Use Designation ofthe subject property from
Urban Residential Low Density (URL) to Urban Residential Medium Density (URM) for
the proposed City View Farm project.
Mr. Mike Bahn made a presentation to the Planning Commission in regards to the
Comprehensive Plan Amendment. He stated what he is proposing is seven single-family
units. He described the homes to the Commission.
Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 9:35p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
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Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to close the public hearing at 9:36 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-aye, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated they did notify the surrounding residents along with the residents of
Anoka and Coon Rapids bordering this development.
Commissioner Falk asked ifthey typically use streetlights in the neighborhood. Mr.
Bednarz stated they will have lighting. Commissioner Falk stated he is concerned
regarding the people on the other side ofthe privacy fence and the disturbance this may
cause. Commissioner Gamache asked if lights on the garages could be installed instead
of street lighting. Mr. Bednarz stated this could be an alternate to street lighting.
Commissioner Jasper asked if there was any public input at the previous public hearing.
Mr. Bahn stated the neighborhood is in favor of this and sees it as an improvement to the
area. He stated at the City Council meeting, the neighbor behind him spoke and was in
favor of this and Mr. Bahn stated he would like to see something done with the lighting
so it does not infringe on the neighbors. Commissioner Jasper mentioned he liked the
look of the buildings and the aesthetics.
Commissioner Vatne asked if Mr. Bednarz could differentiate what was proposed
regarding the outlot. Mr. Bednarz stated they were talking about whether an outlot will
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,__I east edge of the property. He stated the difference is whether the association can refer to
the outlot as a common element or whether a series of cross access agreements from
property to property will be necessary. It is the Engineering departments
recommendation for consistency that no outlot be created. This approach would make it
more complicated both in the association documents and for future homeowners to
understand.
Mr. Brian Johnson, Hawkins and Anderson stated that as an association the cross access
agreement would be much easier to understand for the end user. Commissioner Gamache
stated it would need to be documented that the association could not sell this outlot. Mr.
Johnson stated the association would own and maintain and pay the taxes on the outlot.
Commissioner Jasper asked why this would be a private street and not a public street.
Mr. Bednarz stated it is because it does not meet the City standards for a Public street.
The Commission recessed at 9:46 p.m. so the cable videotape could be changed.
Commission reconvened at 9:48 p.m.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the private drive would be required to be built with the
same quality as a public street. Mr. Bednarz stated it would except for the width.
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stated it would.
Commissioner Vatne asked if there would be a concern for emergency vehicles to access
unit seven. Mr. Bednarz stated they would probably approach the house from the front or
access it from the other townhome development. He stated the fIre chief has reviewed
this plan and approved it.
Chairperson Daninger asked how the association is going to maintain the turnaround if it
is not paved. Mr. Bahn stated the garage in the first unit has an extra stall that would
keep a snow blower and lawnmower for maintenance so a plow would not tear up the
grass. He also stated they would make sure that there would not be anything kept on the
turnaround.
Commissioner Jasper stated it was talked about but was the street connection to the Coon
Rapids development looked into. Mr. Bednarz stated the Fire Chief was not in favor of
this.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the Land
Use Designation from Urban Residential Low Density (URL) to Urban Residential
r) Medium Density (URM) for property located at 13311 Round Lake Boulevard NW.
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Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (03-01) TO CHANGE THE ZONING
DESIGNATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4) TO
MULTIPLE DWELLING LOW DENSITY (M-l) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
13311 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD NW.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed
rezoning to allow the City View Farm project to move forward.
Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 9:35 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
There was no public input. See discussion from previous item.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to close the public hearing at 9:36 p.m. Motion
"--,, carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
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Motion by Gamache, seconded by Falk, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the rezoning to change the Zoning Designation from
Single Family Urban Residential (R-4) to Multiple Dwelling Low Density (M-l) for
property located at 13311 Round Lake Boulevard NW. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, 0-
nays, 2-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21, 2003
City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (03-01) FOR PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OF CITY VIEW FARM LOCATED AT 13311 ROUND
LAKE BOULEVARD NW.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning Commission is asked to review a Special Use
Permit request for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) consisting of seven detached
townhouse units on approximately 1.34 acres. Approval of the Special Use Permit will
allow the development to be constructed according to alternative development standards
that are designed to maximize the redevelopment potential of the site.
(') Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report.
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carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
There was no public input. See discussion from previous items.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to close the public hearing at 9:36 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the Special Use Permit for Planned Unit Development
Review of "City View Farm" located at 13311 Round Lake Boulevard NW and
referencing the staff report for changes along with the 139- foot outlot depth. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, I-nays (Daninger), 2-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CITY VIEW FARM FOR MIKE
BAHNAT 13311 ROUND LAKE BOULVEARD NW.
,,'- '~ Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning and Zoning Commission is asked to review a
, / preliminary plat for City View Farm, a 7 lot urban subdivision.
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Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 9:35 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
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There was no public input. See discussion from previous items.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to close the public hearing at 9:36 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. , approving the proposed special use permit subject to the conditions
in the attached resolution. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, I-nays (Daninger), 2-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 21,2003
City Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
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Mr. Bednarz mentioned that the next Commission meeting will have a few items on it so
as a project for discussion at the next meeting, they should think about the neighborhood
they live in and make a note of what they like and do not like.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Commission on the Community Center.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Gamache, to adjourn the meeting at 10:05 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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