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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 11, 2003 0 0 CJ}~ O/.ù ~Y\Gllel ~ ~ :;5-03 Ü CITY of ANDOVER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 11,2003 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Acting Chairperson Kirchoff on February 11,2003, 7:01 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minneso~ Commissioners present: Acting Chairperson Tim Kirchoff, Commissioners Rex Greenwald, Jonathan Jasper and Dean Vatne. Commissioners absent: Chairperson Dean Daninger, Commissioners Douglas Falk and Tony Gamache. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Others /- -, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. ~ January 28,2003 Commissioner Vatne stated on page five of the minutes, third paragraph, the sentence should read "He stated that ho~.v traffic pulls tlH-ough Ando~;er is Q. real challenge development to the north commutes through Andover and is a real challenge." Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, O-present, 3-absent vote. ' Acting Chairperson Kirchoff stated his Commission was renewed so he gave the Oath of Office to himself. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (03-02) FOR ADDITION TO THE CONSTANCE EVANGELICAL FREE CHURCH LOCATED ATI6150 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. Mr. Bednarz explained that Constance Evangelical Free Church is proposing to expand the use of their site with construction of a new auditorium as well as' expansion of the / ---....\ existing parking and storm water drainage areas. Expansion of the use of the property \.J, requires an amendment to the existing Special Use Permit. Regular Andover Plann)J and Zoning Commission Meeting 0 Minutes - February 11, 2003 Page 2 .' \ \., ~ ) Commissioner Jasper asked how many stalls would there be if they were expanded to 10' in width. Mi. Bednarz stated there would be less because each row of parking would need to be shortened. Commissioner Greenwald asked how they came up with 127 stalls. Mr. Bednarz stated parking is based on seating capacity of the auditorium and their perceived need. ; Commissioner Greenwald stated Constance and Crosstown are 55 MPH so when the median is installed in the road, is there concern with the potential future common entrance. Mr. Bednarz stated the County has not given a timeframe for improvements so the present access will be used. Commissioner Greenwald stated in the description of the screening, do they know they will need to put in a berm along with trees. Mr. Bednarz stated the property to the west is not developed and there are no structures that would be directly impacted. Therefore they are looking at a tiered approach to providing the screening where a berm would be provided now and additional screening would be added when the area develops. Discussion was brought up in regards to the signage in regards to how many and how large each one could be. / ) Commissioner Greenwald stated they have talked about the MUSA area and are they '--J going to try to hook up to the City services. Mr. Bednarz stated staff feels this is the best scenario for them. Commissioner Greenwald asked why the applicant would need to install a drain field for such a short period of time. Mr. Bednarz stated that is an issue for I the applicant but in terms of how the City looks at this, the MUSA boundary runs down 16151 A venue so a Comprehensive Plan amendment would be needed to bring this site into the MUSA and allow utility lines to be extended north of County Road 20. Discussion ensued regarding the current sewer line. Commissioner Jasper asked about when the Sunset Clause "sunsets". Mr. Bednarz stated it references a one-year time ::frame from City Council approval for them to make significant progress on the project. What is likely to happen when the Special Use Permit , is approved, is that the applicant will submit the detail plans that would be reviewed to make sure that the proposal is going to meet fire and building codes and all the other ! agency's requirements. Commissioner Jasper asked how long the one-year Sunset has ì been in the Ordinance. Mr. Bednarz stated he thought it has been since 1990. ! Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to open the public hearing at 7:35 p.m. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent vote. Mr. Brent Visser of Miller Dunwoody Architects stated in regards to the signage issue, ,/ '\ they were asking for up to 150 square footage of sign and the reason for this is because '~_J the roads around the church are both 55 MPH and the corner the church is on is wooded - Regular Andover PlannQ and Zoning Commission Meeting 0 Minutes - February 11, 2003 Page 3 ¡' "\ V with a cemetery on it. He stated the large signage letters they do need is because of the distance back and speed of traffic and they provided an allowance for fifty square feet for the daycare facility and they are willing to come back in the future for approval of the signage. Mr. Visser stated the issue with the entrance, he talked to the County and City staff regarding this and they have started talking with the owner of the property to the west about the potential for a future shared access. Mr. Visser stated they had the parking stalls sized at nine feet and the City Ordinance is ten feet so they made a revision to the drawing. He stated originally the plans showed 127 stalls and with the change will be 115 stalls and still beyond the design standards for the City. Mr. Visser stated in regards to the drain field, one of the issues is the connection to the City sewer system. He stated the addition will be located on the existing drain field so they will need to relocate the drain field unless utilities are made available. He explained where on the property it could be located. Mr. Visser stated in regards to the issue of screening, they will provide the burming to help shield the headlights and if there were any issues in the future, the owner would add '\ additional landscaping to meet what would be required by ordinance at that time. "J ' .Ç\ '% 'ß ~ -\V r' s-\<.,.s;-,· ~'-\C:} '0"C:ch..t re.~lI,eS-kc\ c..\o...n Ca..-nO'fì 0"",,, fY\r, e,drïCl.'t:: \ú.'t' '-rð vc-.!\(:w n()~ Commissioner Vatne statè&the size of the si~i3 not ths is£ue, but the quality of the sign. 0 'V~ ('1\<;(". ().ù.t.i\tVè CC[)~v~vYec\. CLff\e.:.t\.cU-c:) '<2-;;t.~~()3 ' Commissioner Vatne asked if they have submitted a plan for the revision to the parking area. Mr. Visser stated they have not submitted a plan yet but they could consider the plan they have changed today as a revision. Commissioner Greenwald stated if they approve this, they could change the Resolution from 127 to 115 parking stalls. Mr. Bednarz agreed. Commissioner Vatne asked if there was any background on nine versus ten feet for parking stalls. Mr. Bednarz stated a majority of cities allow nine foot wide stalls, and some require 10' wide stalls only in retail areas. In Andover, extra space is valued so there is a ten foot parking stall requirement. Discussion ensued regarding the number of parking stalls that should be installed. Mrs. Mary White stated she lives to the west of the church and railroad track and is concerned with the traffic in the area. The Church has approached her regarding buying her land but she is not ready to sell. She stated she is confused about where and when the median is going in. Acting Chairman Kirchoff stated this is something Anoka County will need to answer. Mr. Bednarz stated at this time there is not a date set for expansion () and would occur sometime in the future. 0 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 11, 2003 Page 4 f"-, '~--.../ I Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to close the public hearing at 8:05 p.m. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent vote. Commissioner Greenwald stated he is comfortable with putting in 115 parking stalls but would like to have the day care sign reviewed when it is developed instead of now. Commissioner Jasper stated the church is setback from the road and has a lot of trees so he can understand why they would need the larger signage. Motion by Jasper, seconded by Greenwald, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the special use permit with changing the 127 parking stalls to 115 ten foot parking stalls and with up to an eleven hundred seat auditorium and to allow the two existing monument signs and two additional wall signs totaling one hundred feet. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the March 4, 2003 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: REVOCATION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT (03-03) TO REVOKE PREVIOUSLY GRANTED SPECIAL USE PERMIT (88-10) FOR ,F -') INSTALLATION OF G4S TANKS, MOTOR FUEL AND PROPANE TANKS ON \.J PROPERTY LOCATED AT 14320 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. Mr. Bednarz explained that this item concerns revocation of a special use permit granted in 1988 to permit fuel storage tanks to be located as part of a commercial development on the subject property. He stated that no significant progress has been made since the permit was granted in 1988 and at the time the permit was approved there was not a sunset clause either in the Zoning Ordinance or included in the approved resolution. As a result the approval granted with the permit will continue indefinitely unless revoked. Mr. Bednarz discussed the neighborhood business study with the Commission. Commissioner Greenwald asked who owned the property. Mr. Bednarz stated Radamacher Companies owned it and is currently marketing it as residential property. Commissioner Jasper asked if the current owner of the property was opposed to the revocation. Mr. Bednarz stated he could not talk for the owner but they were involved in the study and are marketing the property as residential. He stated they were notified of the meeting and that he had spoken with a representative on the phone. He also has spoken with the county assessor regarding the tax classification of the property. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to open the public hearing at 8:17 p.m. r'-., Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent vote. (J 0 Ü Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 11, 2003 Page 5 /-- --"'\. \._~ There was no public input. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to close the public hearing at 8:17 p.m. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent vote. Commissioner Greenwald asked if they were considering at one time putting in a small gas station on the property. Mr. Bednarz stated this was correct and the permit was approved in 1988 before the area was fully developed. Mr. Bednarz stated the NB Study recommended changes to the zoning districts of other sites as a part of a City wide evaluation of all undeveloped commercial properties and that the recommendations for other sites have already been acted upon. Acting Chairman Kirchoff asked if there were storage tanks in the ground. Mr. Bednarz stated there is not any fuel storage on the site. Commissioner Jasper asked if they are now putting a Sunset on these types of permits. Mr. Bednarz stated that was correct. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, revoking the special use permit. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, 0- .' , nays, 3-absent vote. \ \ , - ~ Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the March 4, 2003 City Council meeting. OTHER BUSINESS. Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items. Mr. Bednarz mentioned that they met with the County in regards to the Community Development Block Grant Application process. The City has four applications that are being considered for funding through HUD and it appears there may be an opportunity for a rental rehabilitation program that would be partially funded by the County. He stated the other three applications were not recommended for funding. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if there were more applications for funds this year than last year. Mr. Bednarz stated less dollars are available this year than last year and more requests came in this year than last year. Mr. Bednarz stated this information is preliminary and there will be a final determination in March. /- ......, '-_./ 0 () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 11, 2003 Page 6 --- " ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Jasper, to adjourn the meeting at 8:30 p.m. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent vote. Respectfully Submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. ~ \. ;. , ¡ / " ~ . -'