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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - SEPTEMBER 9, 2003
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Acting Chairperson Kirchoff on September 9,2003, 7:05 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
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Commissioners present: Chairperson Dean Daninger (arrived at 7:11 p.m.)
Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Dean Vatne, Jonathan Jasper
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Commissioners absent: Commissioners Rex Greenwald and Tony Gamache
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Others
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APPRO V AL OF MINUTES.
August 12, 2003
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Motion by Jasper, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion j
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Gamache, Greenwald, Daninger) vote. I
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PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FORA SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS DONOHUE CREEKSIDE
ADDITION LOCATED AT 2733 BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD NW. i
Mr. Bednarz explained that this item has been rescheduled for the September 23, 2003
Planning Commission meeting to allow the developer time to prepare a Grading &
Erosion Control Plan in response to staff's review. Notification of the change was mailed I
to all residents within 350 feet of the proposed development on Thursday, September 4,
2003.
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0 PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (03-0S) TO
EXTEND THE METROPOLITAN URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY (MUSA) TO
INCLUDE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1101161sT AVENUE NW. !
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Mr. Bednarz summarized the staff report and explained that the applicant is requesting a i
Comprehensive Plan Amendment to extend the Municipal Urban Service Boundary
(MUSA) to include the subject property. The applicant is also requesting that the
property be guided for the current stage of sewer expansion (2000-2005). This would
allow the property to be developed at an urban density with municipal sewer and water as
early as next year.
Chairperson Daninger arrived at 7: 11 p.m.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if the church property was to the west of this property. ,
Mr. Bednarz stated it was. He showed on the map where the property is located.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked because there is a limit to the pipeline, how will they
handle this once it reaches capacity. Mr. Bednarz stated it is anticipated that the eighty-
eight acres north of County Road 20 will be the end of the sewer trunk and there may be
some additions to that with a lift station or minor modifications. This line will be used up
and other parts of the City will develop off of other trunks and for the Rural Reserve area,
0 there will be a new trunk line brought up from the Coon Rapids intersector.
Commissioner Vatne stated in the Council minutes there was discussion about other areas
being served by potentially lift stations, in the general sense, there would be the potential
to develop some additional areas in the Rural Reserve. Mr. Bednarz stated that was
correct. He stated once an urban development goes in and utilizes a portion of that
capacity and reduces what is left for other areas.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Vatne, to open the public hearing at 7: 17 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Gamache, Greenwald) vote. .
Ms. Jane Bankin, 16526 Sycamore Street, stated she had four items for the Commission
to consider. She showed on the map their property. She stated the way they understand
this project moving forward is that the proposal is for quarter acre sized lots. In that there
are a few considerations that will have to carry forward. The fIrst is snowmobile access,
hunting zoning and noise issues as well. ,
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Ms. Bankin explained the second point is when they look at the current layout of
Andover, higher density housing has been provided for in the southern areas of the City
and she would suggest that current landowners in their area, have made decisions on their
locations based on their desire to live in a rural environment. She explained with high-
density housing this will change.
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C) Ms. Bankin stated the third point is there is too much load already on the existing roads.
This proposal adds the potential of another seven hundred cars, depending on what types
of houses will be constructed. She stated they have been residents of Andover for
fourteen years and the expansion of homes versus the expansion of Hanson Boulevard
has not yet been aligned.
Ms. Bankin stated the last issue is with the existing proposition; it appears there is one I
access in and out of the development and in the event of a major fIre, how would they
evacuate all the people. She thought they have more overload issues to look at before
making a decision.
Mr. Gary Johnson, 1055 1615t Avenue, stated because he is still in the Rural Reserve after
this, what would it do for taxing purposes, where will they access the City sewer and i
water and is he eligible to hook up to this or is he excluded from hooking up to the City
sewer and water. Mr. Bednarz stated Mr. Johnson is not in the Rural Reserve area and
the Rural Reserve area is designating who would receive City sewer and water from those
that would not and he would not receive City sewer and water.
Mr. Johnson asked what it would do to his taxes. Mr. Bednarz stated they would not
change due to this proposal.
0 Mr. Johnson asked if the developer had an access planned for this property. Mr. Bednarz
stated they do have a proposed access off County Road 20.
Mr. Tom Bankin, 16526 Sycamore Street, stated from the time he lived in Andover, his
commute has almost tripled because of the traffic.
Mr. Scott Wold, developer of the property, stated he wanted to address a couple of the
comments brought up. He stated there would only be 188 units that will be allowed. He
stated this is 75 acres with 128 units or 1.7 units/acre.
Commissioner Vatne asked if the 1.7 units per acre were counting the acres not buildable.
Mr. Wold stated it was.
Chairperson Daninger asked if this was a Rural Reserve property before or after the
purchase of the property. Mr. Wold stated it has been in the Rural Reserve for quite
some time.
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Commissioner Jasper asked if he owned the entire property within the proposed
development. Mr. Wold stated he owned 75 acres. Mr. Bednarz stated fifty of the total i
eighty-eight acres is developable.
Commissioner Vatne asked if there would still be sewer capacity beyond this
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I,,, ) Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:33 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Gamache, Greenwald) vote. I
Recap of the proposed item was given to the Commission by Mr. Bednarz for !
clarification.
Chairperson Daninger stated this can be approved, but they may be setting precedence
because some other property owners in the Rural Reserve may also ask for the timing of
development to be accelerated.
Commissioner Jasper stated his understanding was this Rural Reserve was debated at
great length by the City Council in dealing with the Met Council and this land was set
aside by the City Council with the idea that it is going to be urban residential density
housing and while they plan to do this in the future, the intent of the Rural Reserve is to
allow urban residential development.
Discussion ensued regarding urban development in the area and the Rural Reserve.
Commissioner Vatne stated the projections at the time, took into account the probable or
likely development of some of the existing farmland and open space that is contained
within to the extent that farmers or whoever owns the property does not sell it off and
,-) develop it, it may not utilize some, of that capacity and that is why there is still some
capacity out there today. Mr. Bednarz stated there are properties within the present
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MUSA boundary that are not developing as they were anticipated because people have
not had the desire to develop and the City Council has not pushed urban development on i
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those that are not interested in it.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked how the transportation plan look at some of the access to I
the north and west and does it identify anything in that area. Mr. Bednarz stated it did,
the transportation plan does contemplate some future road extensions and connections to
the north of County Road 20 and they are typically accomplished with the development
of the properties. He stated therè is increased attention by the Anoka County Highway
Department to make sure that not only road connections but intersection improvements at
existing intersections and along existing roadways are also paid for and constructed at the
time of development.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if there was anything proposed for a road connecting
Hanson with the development. Mr. Bednarz stated there are limited connections where a
road could be made but there is a significant amount of wetland so there are limited areas
where a road connection could be made. He stated the evaluation on how the road
connections will be made will happen as a part of the plat reviews.
Motion by Jasper, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
,~ Resolution No. _, approving the Comprehensive Plan Amendment (03-05) to expand
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I the Metropolitan Urban Service Boundary (MUSA) to include property located at 1101
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1615t Avenue NW.
Chairperson Daninger stated when this does move forward there will be long discussions
about a long cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Vatne stated that it was critical at the time the agreement was struck to i
expand and dedicate the Rural Reserve and at that time there was a lot of pressure on the
City to be in accordance with the Met Council's policies and also he believed a lot of
grants and tax aid was also at risk of being lost without the Met Council's approval.
Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Gamache, Greenwald) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 7,2003 City
Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items.
Mr. Bednarz mentioned that there will be a longer agenda on the September 23rd meeting.
- - ) He stated the Bunker Lake Village project proposed by Hanson Builders will be back for
a Plat, Rezoning and the Planned Unit Development review. He stated also a townhouse I
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A venue, there is a Sketch Plan that will be coming to that meeting and there will be some
other miscellaneous business including the plat delayed from this meeting.
ADJOURNMENT. ,
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Jasper, to adjourn the meeting at 7:50 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Gamache, Greenwald) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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