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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSeptember 23, 2003 n ,0 ~NDÒVE~ (~) 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - SEPTEMBER 23, 2003 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Acting Chairperson Kirchoff on September 23,2003, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Acting Chairperson Tim Kirchoff, Commissioners Tony Gamache, Rex Greenwald, Dean Vatne, Jonathan Jasper 'and Michael Casey. Commissioners absent: Chairperson Dean Daninger. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Associate Planner, Andy Cross Others APPRO V AL OF MINUTES. 0 September 9, 2003 Motion by Vatne, seconded by Jasper, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-present (Greenwald, Gamache), I-absent vote. VARIANCE (03-08)TO VARY FROM CITY CODE TITLE 11-3-6:B. LOCATION TO VARY FROM THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FRONTAGE ON A PUBLICLY. DEDICATED STREET FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1869157TH LANE NW. Mr. Bednarz explained that the applicant has requested a variance to the 160-foot minimum requirement for cul-de-sac lot frontage in the R-l rural residential district. The property owner wishes to split their 6.83 acre double frontage lot. The existing home will keep their access on 157th Lane while the new lot will have access onto Linnet Street where the street ends in a cul-de-sac at the back edge of the property. This is located within the MUSA with City sewer and water serving the Grey Oaks development located approximately 350 feet south of the property. It is anticipated that property owners in the immediate area may choose to subdivide their land into urban lots in the future. C) 0 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 2 C) Mr. Bednarz explained the City Attorney sent a memo regarding his review of this item and decided a variance would not be needed. The City Attorney could not fmd anywhere in the ordinances where the "minimum required frontage" on a publicly dedicated street is the minimum width for a lot. The City Attorney stated in the memo that unless there are some provisions in the ordinance that delineate the minimum required footage on a publicly dedicated road, he did not think the City can use lot width as the requirement. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked ifthis would be a typical lot split after the additional information was given from the City Attorney. Mr. Bednarz stated that was true because based upon the City Attorney's recommendation, there does not need to be a variance and they should move along with the lot split when the information is submitted. Acting Chairperson IGrchoff stated based upon the information presented, it meets the minimum requirements. Commissioner Gamache asked how soon would Linnet Street go in and will it go in. Mr. Bednarz stated it is based on the property owners desire to subdivide the property. The area is within the current MUSA boundary and is within the current stage of sewer expansion. Utilities are available to serve the area. Commissioner Gamache asked once Linnet Street would go in, would this lot be a legal (J non-conforming lot because the new street would reduce the lot area. Mr. Bednarz stated he would assume that at the time the street is extended sewer and water would be brought through and then the minimum lot size would be reduced to urban size lots. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if they anticipated having City sewer and water in three years. Mr. Bednarz stated that is dependant on what the property owners decide. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Jasper, to forward to the City Council the City Attorney's letter stating that there is no need for a variance on the lot. Commissioner Vatne asked if there will be a desire for those with 2 ~ acre lots or other properties that could be split now that the 160 foot ftontage is no longer required. Mr. Bednarz stated they did look at that at their meeting and they think this is fairly limited due to the fact that they still need to meet the minimum lot width by the time they reach , the fÌ"ont setback line. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 7, 2003 City Council meeting. 0 0 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 3 -- , , , .J PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (03-0S) FROM LIMITED BUSINESS (LB) TO SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4) FOR BUNKER LAKE VILLAGE. Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning to allow the Bunker Lake Village project to move forward. Mr. Bednarz reviewed the case with the Commission. Mr. Bednarz explained times and conditions have changed due to the development of a single family neighborhood around the subject property and the limited space on the subject properties to provide adequate screening and buffering between a commercial use and residential properties. Mr. Bednarz stated there are minor adjustments, one of them is with the Association. The developer is asking that because of the type of product, the Association would not be responsible for the outside maintenance. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if there were still 41 homes since the sketch review. Mr. Bednarz stated that was true. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:30.m. ) Motion carried on a 6-yes, O-nays, I-absent vote. \.. - Mr. Daniel Weber, 1556 140th Lane NW, stated he was in favor of rezoning of Bunker Lake Village and he is in favor of the proposed single family homes but he is opposed to the proposed Eagle Street. The original design showed two cul-de-sacs. The proposed Eagle Street is too close to Hanson Boulevard by approximately two hundred feet and it would not follow City Code 11-3, stating there should be 330 feet for intersection spacing. He thinks the Planning Commission needs to seriously consider not allowing Eagle Street and going back to a cul-de-sac design. A cul-de:-sac results in less stonn water runoff, less paving, less urban heat. The traffic on 140th is not good and will not get any better. He stated the bike trail ends at I40th and if the Eagle Street is put there, it wi~l be nightmare until the bike trail is continued. Mr. Weber passed out a handout which described cul-de-sac design and he stated the cul- : ¡ de-sac would fit perfect into this design. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked which way Mr. Weber was proposing the cul-de-sac. I Mr. Weber stated he did not want a street at I 40th Lane at all because traffic will increase. , , Commissioner Greenwald stated if a cul-de-sac was put in it would be too long. Commissioner Gamache stated it would seven hundred to seven hundred and fifty feet long. Mr. Weber stated there will be more congestion at I 40th if this road is put in. '\ : : } Commissioner Vatne clarified what Mr. Weber was telling them. '-../ , 0 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 4 CJ Discussion ensued regarding future traffic on 140th Lane once Eagle Street is installed. Mr. Greg Lenduski, 1522 138th Lane, stated his concern is the traffic on 138th. He would like serious consideration of 138th to become a cul-de-sac because of the traffic on Hanson and vehicles trying to access it from 138th. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff stated in reference to 138th Lane, the intersection will be closed once Hanson Boulevard is reconstructed. Mr. Bednarz showed a map of the road and discussed the future plans with the roads off of Hanson Boulevard. ' Commissioner Vatne asked Mr. Hanson.whether the maintenance would be done by the homeowners association or by the homeowners themselves. Mr. Hanson stated these homes will be single family detached homes where they own their own property. He stated they will still build the homes with maintenance free exteriors but the difference is that the property is owned by the homeowners. The covenants will layout what can and I cannot be done. He stated there are still restrictions but the homeowners will be able to do some things on their own. Mr. Hanson explained the Association will take care of their grounds and snow removal 0 but the maintenance of the home will be the homeowners' responsibility. The Association will still dictate what can and cannot be done. i Commissioner Jasper asked if the Association was being developed under the townhouse ; statute. Mr. Hanson stated that was true. Commissioner Jasper asked if the Association will be turned over to the homeowners once the development is completed. Mr. Hanson stated it would be. Commissioner Gamache asked in order to maintain the integrity of the development, wouldn't the City want that to be escrowed in an assoêiation account to do the . maintenance on all of the buildings. Mr. Hanson stated most of the materials used, are standard that have been around for years and stay consistent. He stated the two basic maintenance costs would be the siding and the roofmg and something could be included , in the covenants regarding maintenance on those items. Commissioner Jasper stated one of the items in the motion deals with a variance for 1568 140th Lane, is this something the homeowner agrees with. Mr. Bednarz stated they encountered this situation before with another plat and they did have the homeowner at the neighborhood meeting and she is aware of this and this is a benefit to her. Mr. Bednarz stated that if they oppose the variance, the City would need to reconsider this. Commissioner Jasper asked if the property owner does not accept the variance, could the 0 street go in. Mr. Bednarz stated if the plat is approved, the street will go in but the house would become nonconforming. Commissioner Jasper asked if at the public meeting, was 0 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 5 () that person in favor of the variance. Mr. Weber stated the homeowner was at the meeting and was not in favor of the road. Commissioner Jasper asked if any of the property owners' property was used to make the street. Mr. Bednarz stated it was not. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Greenwald, to close the public hearing at 8:00 p.m. i Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Commissioner Vatne stated there was an item on the proposal. Item four regarding the : ; rezoning, the back page is the Ordinance proposal, statement one, there is a notation of i approximately four acres, shouldn't this be more acres than four. Mr. Bednarz stated they would need to adjust this and should be reflected in the motion. Commissioner Vatne asked Mr. Bednarz to clarify where the original proposal was i regarding 140th and 138th Lane. Mr. Hanson stated when they first came in to discuss this I with the City staff, they did have this set up as a cul-de-sac. When they got to the sketch plan, they had it set up as a thru street but this was not what they necessarily wanted but the City convinced them that is was beneficial and necessary to connect the roads for the City. Mr. Bednarz stated the transportation plan was reviewed and the landfill setbacks of 150 feet which affect where the homes could be placed on the land. f) ; ! ~/ Commissioner Jasper asked if the development in Blaine is like this proposed i development. Mr. Hanson stated it was not, this development is more like their development in Brooklyn Park. [ i Commissioner Jasper asked if parking would be allowed on the street. Mr. Bednarz stated the recommendation follows the Commission's statements on this at the last meeting. Parking would be allowed on the street. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the rezoning from Limited Business (LB) to Single Family Urban Residential (R-4) for Bunker Lake Village with a change to the ! Resolution stating "approximately 10 acres" in item 1. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0- nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 7,2003 City Council meeting. 0 I i - Regular Andover PlannQ and Zoning Commission Meeting 0 Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 6 ) PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FORA SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOW AS BUNKER LAKE VILLAGE LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS OF HANSON BOULEVARD NW AND 139TH LANE NW. Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning and Zoning Commission is asked to review a preliminary plat for Bunker Lake Village, a 41 lot urban subdivision. Mr. Bednarz discussed the item with the Commission. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:30 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Discussion was taken in Item 4 above. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Greenwald, to close the public hearing at 8:00 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, the Preliminary Plat for Bunker Lake Village subject to the conditions of the attached resolution. I \ Commissioner Greenwald stated in regards to the extensive traffic report and for the \ ./ safety, Eagle Street is needed to be a thru street even thought a cul-de-sac would be preferred. Commissioner Gamache stated this would be the safest way to go. Commissioner Greenwald stated he thought the future residents will have more of a I , bourdon of additional traffic than the existing homes on 140th. I Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 7, 2003 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (03-09) FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OF BUNKER LAKE VILLAGE. ¡ ! ] Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review a Special Use Permit I i ; request to develop a Planned Unit Development (PUD) consisting of 41 single family ¡ ; homes on approximately four acres. Approval of the Special Use Permit will allow the development to be constructed according to alternative development standards created specifically for this development. I , r "'-, Mr. Bednarz discussed the item with the Commission. I '-/ i ; - Regular Andover PlannQand Zoning Commission Meeting 0 Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 7 0 Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:30 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Discussion was given in Item 4. i Motion by Gamache, seconded by Greenwald, to close the public hearing at 8:00 p.m. , I Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. ¡ Motion by Vatne, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of ! Resolution No. _, approving the special use pennit subject to the conditions of the ! attached resolution. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. ! I ; Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 7, 2003 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN FOR TOWNHOUSE , DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED BY KODIAK HOMES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 141sT LANE NW AND CROSSTOWN ! BOULEVARD NW. 0 Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review a sketch plan for a : housing development containing 16 twinhome units. Mr. Bednarz discussed the infonnation with the Commission. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if they reviewed a different sketch plan regarding this I I before. Mr. Bednarz stated they did. i i i Commissioner Jasper asked if this was the site where approval was vacated recently for a gas station. Mr. Bednarz said it is. : ! Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 8:22 p.m. I Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Neil Johnson, 2256 141 st Lane, stated one of his issues is that the road that will be i ! going in is going to be right across the road from his front windows and he does not understand why there needs to be a thru street instead of a cul-de-sac. He also noted that the intersection on 142nd is a mess and will eventually require a stop light because of the traffic. He stated he did not see where this proposal is any better than what was proposed before. Commissioner Gamache asked what Mr. Johnson would propose for this property. Mr. Johnson stated he did not know the entire history of this but he thought this was zoned only for housing. 0 - (- ( ') -) V Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 8 " ''\ / ) Mr. Johnson stated what he does not understand is why the property has sat vacant for so '- - long because the houses surrounding this have been around for years. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff stated this was zoned commercial and actually worth more as commercial than as residential and he thought there was an agreement between the owner, developer and City to recognize that the character of the property would be better suited as residential. Commissioner Jasper asked if there was any plan to put in a stop light at 142nd and Crosstown. Mr. Bednarz stated he was not sure and could check on this. Ms. Becky Joyner, 14194 Quinn Street stated her concern is the way the proposed road curves and the distance between her home and the townhomes. She stated this is downsized quite a bit from before and back when they did the study on the property, they thought that this property stay low density residential and on the low end of that. She stated she would like to hear from the builder regarding what the townhomes will look like. She explained that there is a lot of ~affic going through the neighborhood already and she wondered what kind of buffers would be used. Mr. Bruce Carlson, Kodiak Homes, stated when he first started this project, he went to the County to find out what the proper access would be and he was told that there could not be any access to Crosstown Boulevard. He stated this is a twinhome development () with an Association that will take care of maintenance. These will be all one level units '--- with basements and maintenance free exteriors. He stated the price would be $225,000- $240,000. He stated the reason they are trying to get the maximum density is because of the cost of putting trees along the boundaries to buffer their development from the existing homes and road. He stated they have plenty of depth for the homes except for one of the end units. He stated they want to work with the neighborhood and are open to any suggestions. Commissioner Gamache asked if there was any consideration for single family detached homes for the property. ¥r. Carlson stated they looked at that but this would involve a little more cost and a higher price for the homes than exists in the surrounding neighborhood. Commissioner Greenwald asked what the median price of the homes in the neighborhood were. Mr. Johnson stated the value is between $200,000 to $240,000. Commissioner Greenwald asked if these twinhomes should not decrease the value of the properties, it should increase the value of the properties surrounding the development. Mr. Carlson stated they should be in the same price range, depending on the unit options. He stated the homes would be for people mainly over fifty years old and not for people with children. 0 Regular Andover Plann2 and Zoning Commission Meeting 0 Minutes - September 23, 2003 Page 9 ,-- ) Commissioner Vatne stated there was mention of trees put in along Crosstown. Mr. Carlson stated they will be putting in some evergreen trees for a buffer along the road and the houses behind the development. Ms. Joyner asked if there was any way they could change the way the street curves. Mr. Carlson stated Anoka County wants the intersections to meet. Mr. Bednarz stated they may be able to shift the street and get the road to line up. Discussion ensued in regards to the road shift and right of way with the Commission, Mr. Carlson and Ms. Joyner. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to dose the public hearing at 8:50 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Commissioner Greenwald stated he thought the builder has some recommendations regarding this and he thought this was a better proposal than before. Commissioner Jasper stated he had several thoughts about the development and he wondered if the street could be moved a few feet so the angle of lights will not affect the homeowner at the end of the roadway. Mr. Carlson stated they could work with the road to get it out of the homeowners view. \ Commissioner Jasper stated that as he looked at this, his fIrst reaction to the drawing was \. ~í that there was not any sliding doors and he would also like to see more variations to the front ofthe homes. Mr. Carlson stated they could do that. OTHER BUSINESS. Mr. Bednarz introduced the new Associate Planner, Mr. Andy Cross. Mr. Cross discussed his background with the C;ommission. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Vatne, to adjourn the meeting at 8:55 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. 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