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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 13, 2004 0 0 "'. " 5'\NÓÒVË~ : ) \J , 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 i I FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US j Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda January 13, 2004 Andover City Hall Council Chambers 7:00 D.m. I. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes - December 9, 2003 3. PUBLIC HEARING: Residential Sketch Plan to review a single family urban residential development for properties located at 15955, 15827, 15803, and 15773 Crosstown Boulevard. 4. PUBLIC HEARING: Rezoning (04-01) to change the zoning from Single Family Rural Residential (R-I) to Single Family Urban Residential (R-4) for properties located at 15955, 15803, 15773 Crosstown Boulevard. ,'\ 'J 5. PUBLIC HEARING: Rezoning (04-02) to change the zoning from Single Family Rural Residential (R-I) to Single Family Urban Residential (R-4) for property located at 15929 Crosstown Boulevard for Fire Station #3. 6. Variance (04-0 I) to vary from the front and side yard setback requirements for existing house at 921 158th Avenue NW. 7. PUBLIC HEARING: Rezoning (04-03) to change the zoning from Single Family Urban Residential (R-4) to Multiple Dwelling Low Density (M-I) for property located at the northeast comer of Crosstown Boulevard and 141 s1 Lane NW. 8. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional Use Permit (04-01) for Planned Unit Development Review of Crosstown Meadows, a twinhouse project containing 16 units located at the northeast comer of Crosstown Boulevard and 141 s1 Lane NW. 9. PUBLIC HEARING: Preliminary Plat of Crosstown Meadows, a twinhouse project containing 16 units located at the northeast comer of Crosstown Boulevard and 141 s1 Lane NW. 10. Other Business / '\ 'J 11. Adjournment ( ) ~ ~^--~ c.f\NÓÒVE~ QlÁL ~ \-dl-ot , ) 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JANUARY 13,2004 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on January 13,2004, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Tony Gamache, Dean Vatne, Jonathan Jasper and Michael Casey. Commissioners absent: Commissioner Rex Greenwald. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Associate Planner, Andy Cross Others '\ APPRO V AL OF MINUTES. \ J December 9, 2003 Motion by Vatne, seconded by Kirchoff, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on as-ayes, O-nays, I-present (Gamache), I-absent vote. PUBLIC HEARING: RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN TO REVIEW A SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 15955,15827, 15803, AND 15773 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD. Associate Planner Cross explained that the Planning and Zoning Commission is asked to review a residential sketch plan for a 43-acre development located along Crosstown Boulevard between I 57th Avenue and I615t Avenue. The proposed sketch plan is located in an R-I, Single Family Rural Residential Zoning District. A rezoning to R-4, Single Family Urban Residential, will be necessary to process a formal plat. Mr. Cross discussed the staff reports for items 3 and 4 with the Commission. Commissioner Kirchoff questioned where the two nonconforming lots were at. Mr. Cross showed a map and explained the locations. "\, ,,) Regular Andover PlannÇ~ and Zoning Commission Meeting () Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 2 (~ Commissioner Gamache asked if there would be a second access to the site. Mr. Cross stated it does provide a second access. He showed the location on the map. Commissioner Vatne wondered how I 59th would be routed through the properties to be joined. Mr. Cross stated he did not have the specifics and he referred them to the developer for this question. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to open the public hearing at 7:10 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Ms. Mary Hammett, 524 I 59th A venue, explained her concern was the fire chief saying they needed I 59th open for fIre access for safety and the majority of them have lived in their development for twenty years and there has not been any concern prior to this for fIre safety. There is one way in and one way out. She feels like they are disrupting so many families by bringing in the through traffic. She stated they would like to keep their area the way it is even though there is growth all around them. Mr. Pat Sprague, 525 159th A venue, asked if an impact study has been done on how much traffic will be going through the neighborhood if they open this up. He stated they have already paid to upgrade the road and he wondered who would pay for the maintenance and upgrade of the road in the future. (J Chairperson Daninger asked Mr. Bednarz if he knew how much traffic would be going through the neighborhood and in which direction. Mr. Bednarz stated this is an item they talked about at the neighborhood meeting and the most direct route for traffic would be to go to Crosstown. Ultimately when the County improves Crosstown, there will be an intersection with a signal light at Crosstown and 159th. Commissioner Kirchoff stated it looked like the existing homes will also use Crosstown as the main access as more of a way to traveL Ms. Barb Nielson, 546 I 59th Avenue, asked what street would be right inlright out. Mr. Bednarz showed on the map the street and explained this is not imminent but if 159th was to be extended out to Crosstown, the County may take out the medians and they will try to limit access points at other locations. Ms. Nielson stated she is opposed to the rezoning because she would like to keep the area the way it is with wildlife and nature. She stated she does not understand the need to build all of those houses and the integrity of their neighborhood would be compromised. A buffer zone should be constructed all the way around the development and she thought it was a shame that there were other areas in Andover that they did not need to take all the trees down. She thought they should build on those areas and leave this area alone. /- " Mr. Mark Lipski, 629 I 57th A venue, stated development is inevitable and going to \J happen. As far as the sketch plan and the way things are laid out, certain trees that were C) 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 3 /- ---... ¡ brought up for a buffer zone, he saw that they cannot have a buffer zone with some of the " j trees. He explained that on the new sketch plan, they planned a drainage ditch or pond on the back of his property and this is a concern to him. He wondered if the developer is going to have this drainage, what it will do for stagnant, standing water and mosquitoes. Mr. Lipski stated he has been living there for twenty-five years and they have a stand of pine trees. He talked to a forestry person from the City of Andover and they do not believe they have to clear cut all of those trees. His concern is the standing water. He stated there are enough setbacks where they would not have to take down all the trees and a few of the lots could be put into a rustic setting. His concern is if the lots are Ij.¡ acre lots, even on the east side, is it not possible where they can request 2 Yi lots instead of Ij.¡ lots or get the lots a little larger such as I acre or larger to accommodate the existing houses which will not affect the property owners that have been in Andover twenty years or more. Mr. Shawn Lindberg, 545 Constance Boulevard, stated one of the points that were made was the feasibility and impact of the traffic. He understands every other aspect of the development but he thinks a stop light at Crosstown and 159th does not make sense. He stated the pretty soon they will have stoplights every 125 feet to make this feasible. He thought they should look at the impact of these roads. He wondered how long it will be until they have to expand the roadways to accommodate the additional traffic. '\ Chairperson Daninger stated in regards to traffic, the County has been requesting that '-._" ) improvements be made to some of the roads. He stated that they do look at the traffic in the sketch plans. Commissioner Jasper stated it would be his preference as a matter of procedure to have the builder answer their questions during the public hearing so the public could ask additional questions if need be. Chairperson Daninger stated that would be fine. Mr. Mark Smith, Weston Woods Townhomes, 4601 Weston Woods Way, White Bear Township, explained he owns three of the parcels in the development. He stated the sketch plan is rough at this point and in answering the questions regarding the trees, they are a sales point and they do not want to take any more trees than what is necessary. Mr. Smith showed on the site map where the trees are located and the reason why they needed to be cut down. Mr. Smith stated the ponds will not go stagnant; they will have water moving through them every time it rains. Ms. Nielson asked if the pond along the development property will remain triangular or will it be added to surrounding properties. Mr. Smith stated they cannot put water onto -- -, other properties. I \ \.~) (J U Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 4 , . ) Mr. Smith stated the buyers of the property will dictate how they want to try to save the trees on their lots. Commissioner Vatne asked if there was a possibility of developing some of the property into larger parcels. Mr. Smith stated the problem is the sewer and water costs would be too high to develop the land. Mr. Lipski stated a few things came to mind, last Monday he asked the developer about the pine tree buffer and he was told that the trees were thirty-three feet away and they would be clear cutting all of the trees. As far as the cost of getting City sewer and water, he understood that people were willing to pay more for a larger lot. Ms. Nielson asked if they have to have City sewer and water on the property. Mr. Bednarz explained the staging plan and MUS A boundary. : Commissioner Jasper stated this is also the area of the new fIre station and the City wants City sewer and water for the fIre station. Mr. Bednarz stated they would put City sewer and water no matter what. Mr. Pete Nielson, 158th Avenue, asked how they are goi~g to save all the trees and provide drainage for all of the homes that will be in there. Mr. Bednarz stated they did , not design the project. , \. þ Mr. Jim Cyberlick, I 57th A venue, stated his concern is about the trees. As far as the buffer zone goes, he understands the economics of the sewer but they are going to put in ninety-four houses in, if they only made the lots around the parameter larger, they would recoup his investment and still satisfy the existing neighbors. He thought this was a good way to save the trees. th . Mr. Doug Kronhouse, 577 158 Avenue NW, stated he is on the end of the cul-de-sac . where the development will link with theirs. He stated the whole way it is set up in this development will put the houses close together and putting larger lots on the ends makes more sense. Mr. Lindberg stated he agrees with the points of the buffer area and having larger lots around the outside. He was curious about what type of impact is the City imposing upon the actual linear footage of the City sewer and water to the developer and where are they coming up with the $300,000 lot at one acre type of a figure. He stated in evaluating that, increasing the size of those lots, what is the feasibility of increasing the size of the lots in the development. Mr. Sprague asked if the extra revenue in the City will lower their property taxes. Mr. Bednarz stated this will not lower their taxes. He stated that the more people who are ~ ~ contributing will also increase the number of people using the services. ( \ '- j Regular Andover PlanQ and Zoning Commission Meeting U Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 5 C_) Mr. Smith showed on the map where the trees are and explained why some of the trees need to go. Mr. Smith stated they have professional delineators that check the soils to create elevations for ponding and buffers for wildlife. Ms. Hammett stated her main concern is the road getting punched through. Some of the developments around their area are larger developments and they only have one way in and one way out and she wondered why it was such a concern to put the road through. Chairperson Daninger stated the Commission is concerned about cul-de-sacs and they search for the best thing for the development and the surrounding areas. Ms. Hammett stated her concern is they have been this way for a long time and she wondered why they needed to punch the road through at this point when other developments in the area have the same type of cul-de-sac and have only one way in. Motion by Jasper, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Commissioner Gamache stated with the standard layout, he does not like this with the standard butt lot and it looked like they were creating some kind of outlot in the development with the acreage lot that is staying. ~~) Commissioner Jasper stated the circle with one access is inappropriate under the standards they have been using because they end up with a two thousand or more foot long cul-de-sac and it seems to be fixable by bringing the road through. Discussion ensued in regards to how they can fix the access points. Chairperson Daninger stated whatever it takes; they will want to save as many trees as they can. Commissioner Kirchoff stated the pond will affect the trees also and he wondered if the pond needed to be there. Commissioner Gamache stated they needed to have a pond somewhere in the development and he also wants to save as many trees as possible but the houses will back up to the setbacks and you will still see the houses, and most of the trees will be in the front yard and the houses will not be covered by the trees. Commissioner Jasper agreed and he stated the problem is the setbacks that put the houses in the middle of that particular stand of trees. He stated he would rather see developments have some type of transition from rural to urban. He noted that is the problem they have in Andover where rural residential lots back up to urban residential lots without any transition. He did not know if they can have the lots larger and still be developable. r '\ \,~ ü (j Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 6 .f' ) Commissioner Kirchoff stated he did not think the entire parameter needed to be one acre ',J lots, they are looking at this one comer area and the pond becomes á kind of buffer area. Commissioner Gamache stated in Andover, lot prices are already prohibitively expensive for a ~ acre lot. Commissioner Vatne stated in taking a look at the layout of the development, it maximizes profitability by putting as many units as they can on the property that is proposed. He stated there needs to be some consideration back to the discussions around the buffer zones. They need to have the developers give consideration to the neighborhoods that the developments are being dropped into. He believes a majority of the stand of trees should remain because it will enhance the development and will be a great asset to the City. Commissioner Jasper stated it seems like they see developers are maximizing lots to maximize the profits and they should have to justify it and bear some burden to prove it. Chairperson Daninger agreed. Commissioner Kirchoff stated looking at the lots, some of these are not the legitimate width, there are some that are smaller than the eighty feet required. If the lot is eighty feet and it meets their standards, it is a matter of how it is laid out and he has a concern with the circle. Chairperson Daninger stated this is a minimum standard but can be made ~~) larger. Chairperson Daninger summarized what the Commission liked and did not like. He stated they did not like the outlot. He suggested the developer re-Iook at the buffer zone. The Commission did not like the circle road and do they have some kind of a tree plan. Chairperson Daninger asked how they can protect trees through the tree plan. Mr. Bednarz stated the City's present tree ordinance allows the developer to choose tree save areas but the Planning Commission, staff and City Council can suggest tree saving areas but it does not give the City the ability to require the developer to saver trees in any given location, it is only a recommendation. Chairperson Daninger stated their recommendation and guidance would be where they will try to save some trees. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the February 3, 2004 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (04-01) TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL (R-l) TO SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4) FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 15955,15803,15773 0 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD. - 0 () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 7 /, ( \ Associate Planner Cross explained the 43-acre spread of land around the site of the new \ i '-/ fIre station is composed of four separate parcels that would all like to be considered for rezoning ITom R-I to R-4. The owner of one parcel has already applied for a rezoning. The application represents the rezoning request of the other three properties. With the passage of this resolution, the entire 43-acres will have the potential to be rezoned at once instead of the individual parcels being rezoned at different times. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to open the public hearing at 7:10 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. There was no public input. Motion by Jasper, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Commissioner Vatne stated this is within the MUSA district and makes possible the zoning change with the addition of sewer and water. He stated in his mind, the availability of sewer and water is not enough to change the zoning. Commissioner Jasper asked Mr. Cross on page two, item four, regarding Weston Woods Townhomes, he wondered if this meant townhomes were going to be considered. Mr. <--) Cross stated this is the development company name and townhomes will not go in. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have changed. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the February 3,2004 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (04-02) TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL (R-l) TO SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 15929 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD FOR FIRE STATION #3. Associate Planner Cross explained according to the City Code, parcels in the (R-I), Rural Residential zoning district cannot receive city sewer and water. Since it is imperative that the new fire station has access to municipal utilities, an effort is being made to change the station's zoning to an Urban Residential zoning classification. Mr. Cross discussed the information with the Commission. , ,,~ Regular Andover Plan~~ and Zoning Commission Meeting Ü Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 8 ~ \ , , i Commissioner Gamache wondered why they were rezoning this property separately because he thought it was part of the previous item, which was recommended for ~ezoning. Mr. Cross stated the fIre station on the map was for site location purposes only. Commissioner Kirchoff stated he read that they have been upgraded for fIre insurance rating already and he wondered if they would get even better ratings with the new fIre station. Mr. Bednarz stated the availability of another fIre station shortens the response time and that is one of the factors they used to determine what the insurance rates should be. He stated he will make sure he gets the information for the City Council. Motion by Casey, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 8:41 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. There was no public input. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 8:42 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have changed. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. -~ , , Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the February 3, 2004 '-. -' ) City Council meeting. VARIANCE (04-01) TO VARY FROM THE FRONT AND SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR EXISTING HOUSE AT 92115STH A VENUE NW. Mr. Bednarz explained the subject property contains an older home that was constructed before the current setback requirements were adopted. The home does not meet the current front and side yard setback requirements as illustrated in the drawing. ! Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission. Commissioner Kirchoff asked for clarification how the Ordinance has changed. Mr. Bednarz stated the house is an older structure that was built before the current setbacks i were adopted. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if this became a non-conforming use ¡ because of the Ordinance change. Mr. Bednarz stated that was correct. Commissioner Jasper stated they needed a variance beyond the actual house; they would also need a variance for the deck. Mr. Bednarz stated this was correct. - Commissioner Vatne asked if the neighbors signed the petition and if they did, they do .r , not have it in the packet. The applicant stated they did not have the signatures on time to ¡ \ j i --.' Regular Andover PlannQ and Zoning Commission Meeting 0 Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 9 ,~ ~---.J give to Mr. Bednarz. Commissioner Gamache stated a petition was not necessary for this variance. Chairperson Daninger stated that was correct. Commissioner Jasper asked if they had the signatures from the neighbors. The applicant stated he did not. Commissioner Jasper asked if anyone was able to drive by the home and did it fit into character of the other homes. Commissioner Gamache stated if they put in an asphalt road instead of the gravel, it would vary a little in layout. Commissioner Gamache asked if they were being specific in the thirty feet for the variance or are they making this house legal non-conforming. Mr. Bednarz stated the way the variance is written the setback would be thirty-five feet on those two sides of the property. Chairperson Daninger stated it was his understanding that anything above and beyond this would require another variance. Mr. Bednarz stated that was correct. Commissioner Vatne asked for clarification if in fact this was built on this location before they had the setback requirements in place, he thought this would have been grandfathered in as is. Mr. Bednarz stated this was not the case because when the (~) ordinances change, if you have a structure that does not meet the requirements, that becomes a non-conforming structure. They are allowed to use and do maintenance on it but it cannot be expanded and if it were to bum down, they would not be able to reconstruct it on the same location. Commissioner Jasper recapped the steps taken by the applicant when they found about the need for a variance. He asked if the neighbors were all given notice of this request for a variance. Mr. Bednarz stated they sent a notice out to neighbors within 350 feet of the property and a sign was put out on the property. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed variance to the front and rear yard setbacks. Commissioner Vatne stated it was a little troubling that the letter stated the applicant had a petition with neighbors' signatures only to find out this was never done. He felt a little uneasy approving this. Mr. Jim Toay, 15743 Redwood Street, stated he encouraged the City to approve this simply for the fact that they are older homes. He stated the house looks one hundred percent better then what was there before the applicant moved in. He stated all the neighbors received notices and saw the sign. " " Commissioner Gamache asked if this home were to be damaged, does the variance stay U on the property or would they have to rebuild within the current setbacks. Mr. Bednarz ü . Ü Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 10 / .'\ stated they would be able to rebuild at the thirty-five foot setback as opposed to the forty , \~ foot setback. Mrs. Genz, applicant, stated that if the neighbors had concerns, they would be at the meeting. She apologized for not having the signatures. They are a young couple with a small child and their goal is to improve the home and without the variance they will not be able to do this. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the February 3, 2004 City Council meeting. The Commission recessed at 9:00 p.m. for a five minute break. The Commission reconvened the meeting at 9:05 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (04-03) TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4) TO MULTIPLE DWELLING LOW DENSITY (M-l) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD AND 141sT LANE NW. '\ \,~ j Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning to allow the Crosstown Meadows project containing attached townhouses to move forward. Mr. Bednarz stated the Neighborhood Business Study contemplated either low or medium density residential development for the subject property. After a public hearing process the Council determined that low density residential was most appropriate for the site. Mr. Bednarz stated the property located in the Metropolitan Urban Service Area (MUSA). Municipal utilities can be extended to serve the development. A rezoning to Multiple Dwelling Low Density (M-I) is necessary to allow the proposed twinhouse style buildings. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have changed. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 20, 2004 City Council meeting. / \ (--.J ü 0 Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 11 , '\ \ ~) PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (04-01) FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OF CROSSTOWN MEADOWS, A TWINHOUSE PROJECT CONTAINING 16 UNITS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD AND 141sT LANE NW. Mr. Bednarz explained this application continues the review process started with the Crosstown Meadows Sketch Plan. The development consists of 16 attached townhouse units on approximately four acres. Approval of the Conditional Use Permit will allow the development to be constructed according to alternative standards that are designed to maximize the quality of the development. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 9: 13 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I ~absent vote. Ms. Becky Joyner, 14194 Quinn Street, stated she has been talking with the builder quite a bit and some of her issues were resolved. She stated she is fme with the entire plan but she is concerned with the tight squeeze at the comer near her house. She wondered if the house could be turned a little so the comer is not so close to the property line. Mr. Bednarz stated it would affect both comers of the structure but they can take a look at this. ~J Ms. Joyner also wondered what would happen with the pond behind the houses. She wanted to know if the neighborhood kids would have access to this and if this would be a safety hazard. Mr. Bednarz stated the watershed and City have design requirements that prevent steep slopes in pond areas. Motion by Vatne, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 9: 18 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Commissioner Kirchoff thought they have come along way since this was fIrst looked at for a site for a gas station. Chairperson Daninger asked if there will be more room for trees and can they do something with the pond to dress it up and make it more presentable. He wondered why the structures will all be the same. Mr. Bruce Carlson, Kodiak Homes, stated the structures are all the same as far as size and shape but they will have different siding, stone, brick and roofing. These will all be earth tones. They will all have the address stones and trees and shrubs in the front. As far as the berm in the back, they are doing everything required for this. He stated the pine trees are at the required separation to allow them to grow and not kill each other. The trees will be five to six feet tall to begin with. He stated the association will be required to maintain the pond to whatever standard is set in the association documents. '" \J Regular Andover PlannQ and Zoning Commission Meeting U Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 12 '\ Commissioner Jasper stated they could include the maintenance of the pond in the ,,) Homeowners Association. Mr. Carlson stated they want to keep the cost of the association low. He stated they are trying to keep the monthly fee under $100.00. Commissioner Vatne stated the landscaping on the far side of the pond is well done and will add a backdrop. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if there will be a berm along Crosstown. Mr. Bednarz showed the grading plan and outlined a three to four foot berm above street level along Crosstown Boulevard. Mr. Carlson stated they will coordinate the landscaping with the elevation and make it so the homes are screened from Crosstown Boulevard. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 9: 13 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. The public hearings were combined for Items 7-9. Motion by Vatne, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 9:18 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution R_-04, approving the proposed Conditional Use Permit subject to the U conditions in the attached Resolution. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 20, 2004 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF CROSSTOWN MEADOWS, A TWINHOUSE PROJECT CONTAINING 16 UNITS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD AND 141sT LANE NW. Mr. Bednarz explained that the Planning Commission is asked to review a preliminary plat for the subject property. Mr. Bednarz explained the proposed plat contains 16 townhouse units on approximately four acres. The proposal is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan as the property is designated Urban Residential Low Density (URL) which allows up to four units per acre with planning unit development review. Commissioner Jasper asked if there were sidewalks existing beyond the segments recommended for the developer to build. Mr. Bednarz stated there were not. Commissioner Jasper asked what the purpose of recommending the developer build sidewalks was. Mr. Bednarz stated because it is close to a busy road, it gives pedestrians / ....." a safe place to walk. \-..J Regular Andover Plann~,J and Zoning Commission Meeting () Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 13 / '\ \ ,_J Commissioner Vatne asked if the City would recommend sidewalks to be developed further into the developments if they are not already there. Mr. Bednarz stated that if the area were not already developed, it would be nice to extend the sidewalk a block further back to allow pedestrians to get off the road at an intersection with a local street. Commissioner Jasper stated when they did the sketch plan on this, one property owner was concerned with lights from the road going into his window, and he wondered if this was fixed. Mr. Bednarz stated this the road was shifted to allow the lights to shine on the garage and not the house. Commissioner Vatne stated there were three or four points brought up before and it looked like everything has been met. Mr. Bednarz stated this was correct. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 9: 13 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Motion by Vátne, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 9:18 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the proposed preliminary plat subject to the conditions of C) the attached resolution. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 20, 2004 City Council meeting. OTHER BUSINESS. Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items. It was noted the reappointment of Commissioners Jasper and Greenwald to the Pla,nning Commission. The Commission discussed the 2003 year update and Planning Commission report card. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent vote. , - ) - , Regular Andover Plann)~I¿ and Zoning Commission Meeting .( ) ....A Minutes - January 13, 2004 Page 14 r '\ Respectfully Submitted, ) Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. \ ; r , ,-j