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Home My WebLink AboutMarch 9, 2004 0 ü , 5'\NDbVE~ ) 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda March 9, 2004 Andover City Hall Council Chambers 7:00 p.m. I. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes - February 24,2004 3. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional Use Permit (04-03) for in home beauty salon to be located at 2343 135th Avenue NW. 4. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional Use Permit (04-02) for drive through at proposed CVS pharmacy/convenience store at 3631 Bunker Lake Boulevard /-~ "- NW. , \ I ~ 5. PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional Use Permit (04-04) amending Special Use Permit (03-05) to allow a new townhouse design for the previously approved Nature's Run residential development. 6. PUBLIC HEARING: Ordinance Amendment (04-01) amending City Code 12-14-10 D. 8. regulating lighting in off street parking areas. 7. Other Business 8. Adjournment , , n 0 ~ Ct/J......1 ~NóbVE~ ~tD-f) 3 --;). 3-6'-\ r------. \~ ) 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923. WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US --- PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 9, 2004 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on March 9, 2004, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Tony Gamache, Rex Greenwald, Dean Vatne, Jonathan Jasper and Michael Casey. Commissioners absent: Commissioner Dean Vatne. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Associate Planner, Andy Cross Others :~~) APPROVAL OF MINUTES. February 24, 2004 Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Gamache, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-present (Greenwald, Casey), I-absent (Vatne) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (04-03) FOR IN HOME BEAUTY SALON TO BE LOCATED AT 2343 135TH A VENUE NW. Mr. Cross explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the Conditional Use Permit request for a beauty salon at 2343 13Sth Avenue NW. Approval of the request will allow the applicant, Mrs. Shanin Garbow, to conduct a beauty salon business out of her house at 2343 135th Avenue. Mr. Cross discussed the information with the Commission. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7:04 p.m. Motion / ~" carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. \ \J 0 () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 9, 2004 Page 2 ,-- " \ \j There was no public input. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 7:05 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Vatne) vote. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Conditional Use Permit for Mrs. Shanin Garbow for a Beauty Salon at 2343 13Sth A venue. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 20th, 2004 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (04-02) FOR DRIVE THROUGH AT PROPOSED CVS PHARMACY/CONVENIENCE STOREAT 3631 BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD NW. Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission tabled this item at the February 24, 2004 meeting. The applicant has notified staff of their intention to purchase the residential property to the north, adjust the lot line and revise the site plan to allow the Conditional Use Permit for a drive-through window to move forward without the need (- '\ for a variance. The Planning Commission will review this item at a later date, once the U revised site plan has been submitted. Commissioner Greenwald wondered why they needed to table this item if there was not a variance needed anymore. Commissioner Gamache stated CVS Pharmacy still needed a Conditional Use Permit. Motion by Jasper, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:08 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Vatne) vote. Mr. Dean Johnson, owner of Precision Tune, stated as far as the drive thru is concerned, he did not know how they could make a decision on this until they see the drawings. Chairperson Daninger stated they will not be making a decision until the next meeting. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:10 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. Commissioner Jasper asked when the original application was placed. Mr. Bednarz stated the original application came in during January. Commissioner Jasper asked if they needed to act on this within sixty days but his understanding was it had been extended another sixty days. Mr. Bednarz stated they have extended the City's review period to the full 120 days. :_) 0 () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 9, 2004 Page 3 ,. '\ '--.J Motion by Gamache, seconded by Greenwald, to table this item until the March 23,2004 Planning Commission Meeting. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (04-04) AMENDING SPECIAL USE PERMIT (03-05) TO ALLOW A NEW TOWNHOUSE DESIGN FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED NATURE'S RUN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. Mr. Bednarz explained the applicant has proposed a new floor plan for the Nature's Run Project. Three floor plans were initially reviewed and approved as a part of Special Use Permit (01-05) which established the planned unit development for Nature's Run. A fourth floor plan was added with Planning Commission and Council approval of Special Use Permit amendment (03-05) in June of2003. The proposed fifth floor plan will also need to be approved by Council. Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission. Commissioner Jasper asked how many lots are left. Mr. Bednarz stated there were approximately twenty lots left. ( ) Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the public hearing at 7:13 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. There was no public input. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:14 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. Commissioner Gamache stated he thought the more townhouse floor plans they came up with in this development, the better. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed amendment. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Vatne) vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 6, 2004 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: ORDINANCE AMENDMENT (04-01) AMENDING CITY CODE 12-14-10 D. 8. REGULATING LIGHTING IN OFF STREET PARKING AREAS. ~~.) ü () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 9, 2004 Page 4 :,,) Mr. Bednarz explained City Code 12-14-10 D.8. requires parking lots to be illuminated a minimum of one footcandle as measured at ground level. With the intent of updating lighting standards and limiting light pollution, staff is proposing to modify the existing city code in accordance with recommendation from the Illuminating Engineering Society of North America (IESNA). Mr. Bednarz discussed the information with the Planning Commission. Commissioner Kirchoff asked how limiting the thirty feet in height affect ball diamonds or stadiums. Mr. Bednarz stated ball field lighting will be higher than thirty feet. This Ordinance applies only to parking lots. Commissioner Jasper stated Target typically uses taller lighting than thirty feet. He wondered if they will be using thirty feet tall fixtures at Andover Station. Mr. Bednarz stated Target has proposed using different heights of lighting in their parking lot and the tallest will be thirty-eight feet and the City will be working with them in trying to revise their lighting plan for that development if the ordinance amendment is approved as proposed. Commissioner Gamache asked if Target did not wish to revise, would they be grandfathered into the old Ordinance or would they have to comply with this. Mr. '\ Bednarz stated timing would be an issue. If Target would be issued a building permit \_J before this Ordinance became effective, then it could not be applied to them. Commissioner Kirchoff asked if the existing lighting at Andover Station and Festival Foods were higher than thirty feet. Mr. Bednarz stated the lighting is around thirty feet high. Commissioner Greenwald asked what the justification of thirty feet was. Mr. Bednarz stated it was somewhat of a uniform height for commercial areas. Commissioner Greenwald asked what their current City Code was. Mr. Bednarz stated there is not a height limit at this time. Commissioner Greenwald asked what the surrounding communities have for height code. Mr. Bednarz stated the municipalities they have looked at have the same codes Andover has. Not well defined in terms of height and fixtures. Discussion ensued in regards to changing the Ordinance to thirty feet maximum. Commissioner Greenwald stated he is not comfortable with going with thirty feet and he wondered what Coon Rapids used in building the Riverdale area. Mr. Bednarz stated he was not sure if they had a maximum height. He stated they can spend time in reviewing this before changing the Ordinance. , '\ '-.) o () Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 9, 2004 Page 5 r\ . -, ~ Discussion continued in regards to the reasons why the Ordinance should be reviewed for changes. Commissioner Jasper questioned the legitimacy of requiring different minimum lighting levels for different types of uses. He wondered if there was not a minimum lighting level for safety for all uses. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:40 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. Mr. Winslow Holasek, 1159 Andover Boulevard, asked what the chart meant that staff showed. Mr. Bednarz showed the graphic and explained how the ratio related to the minimum and maximum footcandles. He discussed the graph. Mr. Holasek asked if3.9 footcandles would be the maximum. Mr. Bednarz stated this would be the average in this example. Mr. Bednarz gave examples of different lighting. Motion by Casey) seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 7:45 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Vatne) vote. \ <- ) Commissioner Jasper stated he is not comfortable in making a decision and he would want them to justify the numbers before approval. A suggestion was made to go out at the next meeting and look at the lighting in the parking lot. Commission consensus was to table this item for further information. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to table this item for further information per comments summarized and any additional comments that come about until a future meeting. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. OTHER BUSINESS. Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to adjourn the meeting at 8:00 p.m. Motion ( ') carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (V atne) vote. 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