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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 23, 2004
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Acting Chairperson Tim Kirchoff on March 23,2004, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Tony Gamache, Rex
Greenwald, Dean Vatne, Jonathan Jasper and Michael
Casey.
Commissioners absent: Chairperson Daninger.
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Associate Planner, Andy Cross
Others
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APPRO V AL OF MINUTES.
March 9, 2004
Motion by Jasper, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (04-01) TO CREATE A NEW RURAL
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY FROM PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 17845 PALM
STREET NW AND 560 177TH A VENUE NW.
Mr. Cross explained that the property owner has submitted a request to split off the
northwest 3.6 acres of his property to make a new residential lot. This lot split is the
second component in a two-part plan to create this new lot. The first part was to have the
property line on the northern adjacent piece ofland adjusted so as to deed a portion of
land to the applicant that would provide access to I 77th A venue. When that is
accomplished, Mr. Fanucci is seeking to split the northwest 3.0 acres of his original
property along with the newly deeded.6 acres from his land at 560 I 77th Avenue NW.
() Mr. Cross discussed the information with the Commission.
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Commissioner Jasper asked what the existing access was off of. Mr. Cross stated the
survey did not do it justice but there is a rough access to the property. He showed on the
map where the access was. The applicant's daughter showed on the map where existing
access IS.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Greenwald, to open the public hearing at 7:10 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Vatne, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:10 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the lot split subject to the conditions on the Resolution. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-
nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 6, 2004 City
Council meeting.
(J PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (04-06) FROM SINGLE FAMILY URBAN
RESIDENTIAL (R-4) TO SHOPPING CENTER (SC) FORA PORTION OF
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13748 ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD.
Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed
rezoning of the southern portion of the above single-family residential lot.
Mr. Bednarz stated the Planning Commission previously tabled the proposed CUP for a
drive-through window with variances to parking lot setbacks and parking stall sÌze, and
directed CVS to redesign their site to adhere to City Code. CVS responded with an
agreement to purchase the residential property to the north and will complete an
administrative lot line adjustment adding 19-feet from the southern portion of the
residential property to the CVS site. This will eliminate the need for any variances. The
residential property will still be in compliance with the minimum lot size and building
setbacks for the R-4 Zoning District.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the information with the Commission.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:15 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
(J Mr. Dean Johnson, Precision Tune Owner, stated this was confusing that they are
showing an easement going on his property. He asked for clarification on the drawing he
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"'~ received. Mr. Bednarz explained this appeared to be the surveyors attempt to illustrate
the shared easement and it is not part of this approval.
Mr. Johnson stated the other issue he has is with lopping off part of the parcel behind the
site. He did not think this was a good idea because it was not done in the best interest of
the owners in the area.
Commissioner Gamache asked why this business would not be in the best interest of
surrounding property owners. Mr. Johnson stated he felt a gas station would be in the
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best interest for him and he did not know what a pharmacy would do for him.
Mr. Tom Loucks stated they would not be purchasing only nineteen feet of land, they
have purchased the entire parcel of land and they plan on using nineteen feet of this and
the home will be resold with a residential classification in the future.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:20 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Commissioner Jasper thought the applicants have done everything the Planning
Commission has asked of them and he felt this plan was a good one. Commissioner
Gamache agreed.
() Motion by Jasper, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the proposed rezoning. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 6, 2004 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (04-02) FOR DRIVE .
THROUGH AT PROPOSED CVS PHARMACY/CONVENIENCE STOREAT 3631
BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD NW.
Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission tabled this item at the February 24,
2004 meeting. The applicant has revised the site plan to allow the Conditional Use
Permit for a drive-through window to move forward without the need for a variance.
Mr. Bednarz stated CVS has an agreement to purchase the residential property to the
north and will complete an administrative lot line adjustment adding 19-feet from the
southern portion of the residential property to the CVS site. This will eliminate the need
for any variances. The residential property will still be in compliance with the minimum
lot size and setbacks for the R-4 Zoning District. Additionally, this 19-foot parcel will
need to be rezoned from Single-Family Urban Residential to the Shopping Center Zoning
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"". / Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if the building footprint was larger because of the
additional land. Mr. Bednarz stated it was not.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Greenwald, to open the public hearing at 7:23 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Dean Johnson stated a couple of concerns he has is there seems to be quite a bit of
difference in elevation from the front to the back of their property. He wondered if a
retaining wall will be installed between the two properties. Mr. Bednarz asked if the
existing curbing will remain. Mr. Loucks stated there will be curbing in that area of the
site and all of this will be addressed in the process.
Commissioner Gamache wanted to clarify that they are only looking at the drive thru part
of this plan. Mr. Bednarz stated that was correct.
Mr. Johnson stated that a curb island on the CVS property encroached into an easement
he owns on the property and Mr. Tom Loucks, Loucks McLangan, stated they would
move the island over one parking stall so the island is outside of the cross access
easement.
~._) Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:27 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Commissioner Jasper asked if there is a fence between Precision Tune and the property
directly to the north. Acting Chairperson Kirchoff stated he thought there was an existing
fence there already and it would need to be changed.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the CVS property will require a fence and he noticed the
two fences will not line up. Mr. Bednarz stated it will be required'to adjoin the Precision
Tune fence if there is agreement between the two property owners. He stated the exact
location north of CVS will be selected based on the topography.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the conditional use permit. Motion carried on a 6-ayes,
O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 6, 2004 City
Council meeting.
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'- / PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (03-04) TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM
SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL (R-l) TO SINGLE FAMILY URBAN
RESIDENTIAL (R-4) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST
QUARTER OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF SECTION 21, TOWNSHIP 32,
RANGE 24, ANOKA COUNTY, MINNESOTA.
Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed
rezoning to allow the Woodland Estates 6th Addition to move forward.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the report with the Commission.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7:31 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:32 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have
,-) changed. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 6, 2004 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WOODLAND ESTATES 6TH
ADDITION, A SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST QUARTER OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER
OF SECTION 21, TOWNSHIP 32, RANGE 24, ANOKA COUNTY, MINNESOTA.
Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review a preliminary plat for
Woodland Estates 6th Addition. The proposed project is located west of Nightingale
Estates 3rd Addition.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the information with the Commission.
Commissioner Vatne asked regarding custom grading, when a plan is submitted, how
specific are the plans. Mr. Bednarz explained to the Commission the process the
developer takes on designing the plans.
Commissioner Vatne stated there was a reference to the existing ditches with a couple of
/ ) ponds that will replace the ditches. He asked where the ditches were in relation to the
\----./ ponding. Mr. Brian Johnson, Hakanson, Anderson Assoc., Inc., explained the County
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where there is a private ditch system. Their proposal is to expand the private ditch areas
into storm water ponds to improve treatment.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if the private ditches will eventually drain into the
County ditch system. Mr. Johnson stated this was correct.
Commissioner Greenwald asked in regards to the park dedication, money is collected per
lot, is there a spot where there will be a potential park on this site. Mr. Bednarz stated the
money collected on this plat will be applied elsewhere.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if there was any idea when Veterans Memorial Blvd.
would connect to Round Lake Boulevard. Mr. Bednarz stated that without assessing the
property owners, it is not feasible to construct at this time.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff asked if there was any idea when the connection would be
built. Mr. Bednarz stated it depended on the timing of development in the area.
Commissioner Greenwood asked what the time frame for completion ofthe 6th Addition.
Mr. Johnson stated they would anticipate the site grade would be in early fall and home
construction would start at the end of the year in the fall through 2005 and into 2006.
, ) Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to open the public hearing at 7:54 p.m. Motion
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carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 7:55 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Commissioner Gamache thought the developer did an excellent job drawing up the plans
after numerous discussions.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the Preliminary Plat for Woodland Estates 6th Addition
subject to the conditions of the attached resolution. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays,
I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 6, 2004 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN OF COUNTRY OAKS WEST
,,- 'ì TO REVIEW REVISED PROPOSAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 1101161sT
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Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review a revised residential
sketch plan for a single family and townhouse development formerly called "White Tail
Ridge". The revised plans attempts to address the issues raised by the City during the
first round of sketch plan review.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the emergency access was meant to be an access or was
this for emergency vehicles only and whether it would be taken as an easement or right-
of-way. Mr. Bednarz stated the access would be for emergency vehicles only. The City
could take the access as right-of-way or easement. He did not know what the preferred
method was.
Commissioner Gamache asked if it was determined if the property to the north was
buildable. Mr. Bednarz stated there is interest in the development community and there
is some potential for development in the north.
Commissioner Greenwald stated the way he looked at this; there is not a good way to
access this property.
f '\ Mr. Jon Jondahl, Pentagon Holdings made a presentation to the Planning Commission.
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Commissioner Greenwald asked if twin homes were considered two dwellings. Mr.
Jondahl stated that was correct.
Discussion ensued in regards to the number of homes that could be built in the
development that would be able to access City sewer and water.
Motion by Vatne, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 8:32 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Winslow Holasek, 1159 Andover Boulevard explained his views on the sewer
limitations to the property and how the City in the past did not plan well for the future
when planning the sewer. He stated that the City needed to come up with better plans.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff stated there would be a City Council workshop discussing
this issue at the end of March and maybe Mr. Holasek could discuss his ideas and views
with them also.
Mr. Gary Johnson, iQ$5161st Ave. NW, stated he has a private septic system and he
wondered who would be responsible for that ifthe water fTom the development drained
onto his property and ruined his septic system. Mr. Bednarz stated the Coon Creek
Watershed would make sure that no more water than currently drains onto the property
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Motion by Vatne, seconded by Gamache, to close the public hearing at 8:51 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff thought this was an improvement over what they previously
have seen.
Discussion ensued in regards to a second access road and where they could place it and
what other changes needed to be made.
Acting Chairperson Kirchoff stated he liked the layout and did not think there needed to
be many changes made.
Commissioner Gamache stated they are trying to make better use of space by moving the
road over sixty feet.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items.
Mr. Bednarz mentioned that the City Council will be meeting on March 30th to discuss
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ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Vatne, to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Daninger) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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