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Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting Agenda
July 13, 2004
Andover City Hall
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
I. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes - June 22, 2004
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Rezoning (04-08) to change the zoning classification
from Single Family Rural Residential (R-I) to Sinßle Family Urban
Residential (R-4) for property located at 1386 148 Lane NW.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: Lot Split (04-04) to create two urban residential lots
(,) from one rural residential lot located at 1386 148th Lane NW.
5. Variance (04-03) to vary from rear yard setback requirement for porch
addition on property located at 13943 Wintergreen Street NW.
6. Other Business
7. Adjournment
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JULY 13,2004
The Regular Bi-MontWy Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Daninger on July 13,2004, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Tony
Gamache, Rex Greenwald, Dean Vatne, Jonathan Jasper
and Michael Casey.
Commissioners absent: There were none.
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Planning Intern, Chris Vrchota
Others
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
June 22, 2004
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on as-ayes, O-nays, 2-present (Jasper, Vatne), O-absent vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (04-08) TO CHANGE THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL (R-l) TO
SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL (R-4) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1386148TH LANE NW.
Mr. Vrchota explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed
rezoning to allow the lot split on the property to move forward.
Mr. Vrchota discussed the staff report with the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Gamache stated Mr. Vrchota stated that when this was originally platted
0 there was discussion that this could and should be rezoned. He wondered if there were
any minutes showing those discussions were actually there. Mr. Vrchota stated they do
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\-.J have minutes from various Council and Planning Commission meetings from 1986
regarding this plat. The utilities were already getting close to this area when the plat was
approved and this portion was approved so that other land could be set aside and
developed after the utilities became available.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if other properties wanted to split is the capacity there to
serve all of the properties equally. Mr. Bednarz stated there was.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Mr. Mark Schueller, 14794 Eagle Street, stated there is not any City sewer and water for
this lot. He wondered if there would be a problem with this or will there be an issue with
the neighbors. He discussed the issue with extending the sewer line down the road. Mr.
Bednarz explained the decision made by the Council on July 6th. Chairperson Daninger
explained the commission was reviewing the rezoning and lot split and not the design of
the utilities.
Mr. Myron Gannon, 1452 148th Lane, stated he assumed they were having the meeting to
approve the lot split and send it on. The City Council did not approve the lot split last
Tuesday. He stated he was not opposed to the lot split as long as the applicant carried all
c.J of the costs to run the sewer and water down the road and reconstructing the road the way
it is. He stated he was definitely opposed to tearing all the streets up and running utilities
for the entire neighborhood at this time. It is not necessary and a cost for the other
residents that do not need to be included at this time.
Mr. Winslow Holasek, 1159 Andover Blvd, stated the Commission made the comment
that they are going to decide if they were going to approve the lot split and rezoning or
not but they have to take into consideration the sewer study plan. He stated the sewer is
deeper than twenty feet. Mr. Bednarz stated the utility extension to serve the new lot
would be designed by the Engineering Department. This would come following the
approval of the lot split.
Mr. Holasek showed the area on the map and discussed the sewer stub and the
connections needed. He thought they should be discussing the sewer extensions before
this is approved. He stated he is not opposed to the lot split or rezoning but if this is
approved and there is a pipe installed that water is no problem. Mr. Bednarz stated the
City's intent is to design a project that is going to conform to the approved sewer study.
Mr. Norman Meiry, 14853 Bluebird, stated this lot provides storm run off for the entire
section of 138th Lane so there would need to be some allowance for that. Chairperson
Daninger stated anytime subdivision occurs, the drainage cannot affect any other
property.
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" ) Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:24 p.m. Motion
carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Commissioner Jasper stated it was his understanding that under their motion, ifthe road
has to be ripped up and replaced and the cost of installing sewer and water would be born
by Lot B that has not been hooked up by the utilities. If they do not follow through, then
the approval would sunset out. Mr. Bednarz stated that is correct. If the project is
completed, the cost will be assessed to Parcel B. If the applicant makes an agreement
with the purchaser of the property to pass the costs along, that is the applicant's decision.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if there was a one year sunset. Mr. Bednarz stated that
was correct.
Commissioner Jasper asked if in paragraph 2 ofthe motion should be changed because it
states both lots would be connected to sewer and water and assessments shall be paid but
Lot A is already connected so it would be Lot B that would be assessed the fees. Mr.
Bednarz stated that was correct. Commissioner Jasper stated this should be changed in
the report.
Commissioner Jasper asked at what point during this process the street reconstruction is
designed. Mr. Bednarz stated when the utility project is designed; they will also have a
\ street construction detail that will address the storm water that is in the street now.
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conditions. Mr. Bednarz stated this could be added to item 2 if the Commission wished.
Commissioner Jasper thought the motion should be changed to reflect Lot B to be the one
to pay all the fees associated with the connection of the utilities because Lot A has
already paid them. Commissioner Gamache stated Lot A is still the property owner and
that is the property owner that will be assessed. Commissioner Jasper stated it was his
understanding that they do not assess an owner, they assess a lot. Lot A is already
connected so if they are going to assess a lot, it needs to be Lot B. Mr. Bednarz stated
this was correct.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval
of Resolution No. _, approving the rezoning request based on the fact that times and
conditions have changed.
Commissioner Jasper asked if the lot split sunsets, does the rezoning sunset as well or is
there any ramification for it not sunsetting. Mr. Bednarz stated the rezoning, if approved
by the Council, would take effect. They would not have the ability to split the lot until
the lot split is approved. Commissioner Jasper asked if there was any negative affect the
property owner of the rezoning if the lot split does not happen. Mr. Bednarz stated the lot
split still needs to be approved before anything can be done with the additional lot.
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,--,) Commissioner Gamache asked if there were any different tax liabilities on the rezoning.
Mr. Bednarz did not want to speak as the County tax appraiser. Commissioner Gamache
wondered if they should make the rezoning contingent on or sunsetting with the lot split.
Mr. Bednarz did not think this was necessary because if they rezone the property, it will
be R -4 instead of R -I but they still only have one lot there until the lot split is approved
and the lot split is approved contingent on providing utilities to the property.
Commissioner Greenwald stated even though these properties are within the MUSA
boundary, they will never force them to connect to utilities. Mr. Bednarz stated this was
correct.
Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20, 2004 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (04-04) TO CREATE TWO URBAN
RESIDENTIAL LOTS FROM ONE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LOT LOCATED AT
1386 148TH LANE NW.
\ Mr. Vrchota explained the property owners are seeking approval of a proposal to divide
'..J the subject property (Lot 5, Block 4, Oak Bluff) into two urban residential lots. The
existing house and detached garage will remain on one of the lots.
Mr. Vrchota discussed the information with the Commission.
Commissioner Gamache stated there was mention of a detached garage and he did not see
this on the plat. The applicant stated the garage is a three car garage and attached.
Commissioner Greenwald asked if the park dedication and lot fee was for both lots. Mr.
V rchota stated it was only for Lot B.
Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Gamache, to open the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
This item was discussed with the above item.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:24 p.m. Motion
carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Motion by Jasper, seconded by Gamache, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, approving the proposed lot split subject to the conditions listed in
'\ the attached resolution, altering paragraph number 2 of the therefore clause of the
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assessments for that connection and any necessary street improvements shall be paid by
the applicant as calculated by the City Clerk".
Mr. Bednarz stated once the petition comes into the City to build that improvement
project, there will be a contract between the property owner and the City that will provide
financial security to make sure the project is completed to the Cities requirements.
Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20, 2004 City
Council meeting.
VARIANCE (04-03) TO VARY FROM REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT
FOR PORCH ADDITION ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13943 WINTERGREEN
STREET NW.
Mr. Bednarz explained the applicant is requesting a 5-foot variance to the rear yard
setback requirement to allow the construction of a 14x14 sun porch, which would replace
an existing deck. The 14xl4 size was based on the survey that was on file. The property
,/ '\ pins were located as a condition of the building permit review, and it was determined that
'-j the survey on file is not accurate. The rear of the home is actually 5 feet closer to the rear
property line than reflected on the survey.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Commissioner Greenwald thought the applicant really did their homework on this to
warrant the variance.
Commissi oner Kirchoff asked if the neighbors were notified of the variance. Mr.
Bednarz stated they were· and he did not receive any correspondence.
Commissioner Jasper thought the porch would fit into the neighborhood but he did not
see any hardship at all. Commissioner Gamache thought the hardship was that the
builder or whoever surveyed the lot surveyed it wrong. The survey that was on file
showed there was room for a porch but when it was resurveyed, the house was found to
be placed in the wrong spot.
Commissioner Jasper stated it was his understanding that when it was bought, there was
not an intention to put a porch on the house. Commissioner Gamache thought the
hardship was with the discovery of a mistake in surveying. Commissioner Kirchoff
thought the builder made a mistake without the owners' knowledge and it was never
checked until this came up.
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Commissioner Vatne stated as it stands today, the setup of the deck is in violation. Mr.
Bednarz stated it was not. Commissioner Vatne stated he could not find a hardship with
this either because the deck is not in violation. Commissioner Vatne stated he needed to
have a hardship also.
Commissioner Kirchoff stated he was in favor of this because the hardship was not ,
created by the owner. Commissioner Casey concurred. He stated he saw a hardship
created to the owner because the survey was wrong.
Commissioner Jasper stated item 4 of the consideration states "economic considers may
constitute an undue hardship if reasonable use of the property exists with application of
minimum standards of this chapter." A very reasonable use of the property exists; there
is a house on it. Commissioner Gamache stated in order to approve the variance; the
landowner does not necessarily need to meet every one of the conditions. Mr. Bednarz
stated the Council can approve the variance with a majority vote.
Commissioner Gamache stated he felt they are meeting some of the criteria in order for it
to be considered a hardship. Mr. Bednarz stated the findings are provided as review
criteria but a variance does not have to meet all four of the findings.
(-- '-, Commissioner Greenwald asked if a builder came in with a survey, does the City check
'.....J the survey. Mr. Bednarz stated the do, since 1995 the City has required the surveys be
certified by the surveyor. Commissioner Greenwald stated it was obvious that this was
not checked and in his opinion he would expect a survey to be accurate and that the City
who issued the permit would check the survey so he felt the City was partly the cause of
the hardship.
The Commission continued to discuss the issues for a hardship in order to approve the
VarIance.
Motion by Gamache, seconded by Kirchoff, to approve the proposed variance to the rear
yard setback. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, 2-nays (Jasper, Vatne), O-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20, 2004 City
Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items.
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ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Gamache, to adjourn the meeting at 8:05 p.m. Motion
carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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