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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 25, 2004 0 0 ~ Q..Q...; ! ~. b-~9-ö't ~) 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US CITY OF ANDOVER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING May 25, 2004 - 6:00 p.m. Conference RoomA & B AGENDA 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes - April 19, 2004 and April 20, 2004 3. Approve Subordination, Non-disturbance and Attornment Agreement for Andover -- -..., Community Center - Administration ~) ! 4. Review Request from TCF /Ryan Construction for Bank Use of Lot and Lot Split- Planning 5. Discuss Request for Proposals for Andover Station North - Planning 6. . Consider Andover Bowling Center at Andover Station - Planning 7. Update - TIF District no. 1-4 - Finance/Planning 8. Other. Business 9. Adjourn 8 -- . -) ~ ~c \ NÓÒVE . \.j ANDOVER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING AMY 25,2004 - MINUTES A Meeting of the Andover Economic Development Authority was called to order by President Mike Gamache, May 25,2004,6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Present: Commissioners Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel (part), Julie Trude; Absent: Voting resident members Fred Larsen and Robert Nowak; and Non-voting resident member Edward Schultz Also present: Community Development Director, Will Neumeister City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson Others :-J APPRO V AL OF MINUTES April 19, 2004: Correct as written. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of the Minutes as written. Motion carried unanimously. APPROVE SUBORDINA TION, NON-DISTURBANCE AND ATTORNMENT AGREEMENT FOR ANDOVER COMMUNITY CENTER Motion by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve a Subordination, Non-disturbance and Attornment Agreement for Andover Community Center. ¡ Commissioner Jacobson asked if this was the same language as approved at the City Council meeting. Mr. Dickinson stated that was correct. Motion carried unanimously. REVIEW REQUEST FROM TCFIRYAN CONSTRUCTION FOR BANK USE OF LOT AND LOT SPLIT ~-) Mr. Neumeister advised this is a request from TCF/Ryan Companies for bank use of Lot and Lot Split. He stated initially Ryan Companies had indicated they would like to split the 1.75 acre parcel for two separate sites; however they have determined that they will develop a site plan that eliminates the need for the lot split. C) Ü '- ) Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 2 Mr. Neumeister further advised the Andover Station Design Standards do not preclude the use of the property for a financial institution. The developer, Ryan Companies, has provided information related to the attempts that they have made to market the site for a sit-down restaurant. He indicated Ryan Companies has indicated that they would like to accommodate the desire of the EDA for a sit-down restaurant, but the reality is that the market will not support it. The EDA has been requested to review the plans to determine whether the building would be consistent with the design standards and the vision the EDA has for the area. He noted that originally staff was not supportive of the planned lot split, however staff is now supportive of the revised plans. Commissioner Trude stated they had been expecting Wells Fargo, but that seems to have fallen apart. She asked if the use for the parcel in front of Festival was not determined to be perfect for a bank, and this would compete with it. Mr. Neumeister stated this is an accepted use for the parcel. He indicated there is no promise that there would be a bank in one location over another, and they were all hoping this parcel would have a sit-down restaurant. Tom Palmquist, Ryan Companies indicated they have been marketing the site, and have a bank looking at their site and the United Properties site by Festival. He stated the bank preferred to be ,-¡ in front of Target. He indicated TCF has provided a letter that states they would prefer to be on \..j the Ryan Companies site. Mr. Neumeister confIrmed that TCF knew both sites are available. Mr. Palmquist indicated the lot in question is north and east of Target. He showed the EDA the site plan, noting that when they went through the approval process they ghost platted what could be done. They are aware further approval would be needed on specific buildings, but the ghost plat did show a building of this size in that location. He indicated they have been marketing this property for over a year with the understanding the EDA desires to have a restaurant at the location; however they have come up short. They have a letter of intent from TCF Bank, which is a permitted use, and have a plan. Mr. Palmquist advised the bank would be a 4500 square foot TCF prototype, and they understand the materials would have to be consistent with the Andover Station Design guidelines. They are also showing a 3700 square foot restaurant. Ryan Companies would own all the property, and would sell it as one package when they go to sell rather than request a lot division at that time. They feel the plan complies with the guidelines, and they understand they would have to come back with more detailed plans consistent with this preliminary site plan. Mr. Palmquist advised there is a declaration of restrictive covenants that is attached with all the properties that agrees to restrict the uses. One use restricted is fmancial institutions. He stated an amendment has been drafted to allow the bank to be located here, and has been signed by ~) United Properties, Walgreens and Target. It would need EDA and City Council approval also to allow for a bank. He indicated they will continue to market to restaurants, but it has been slim pickings. President Gamache asked if the TCF will be similar to the Coon Rapids TCF off Main Street. () / -, U , Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting \..) Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 3 Mr. Palmquist stated he does not know, he only knows it is the current TCF prototype. President Gamache asked if they expect that when Target opens, marketing a restaurant will be easier. Mr. Palmquist stated it will not hurt, but given the current progress of the parcel it is odd they have not been able to attract one already. Commissioner Trude stated they had thought the lot size would fit a sit-down restaurant, but asked if fast food would work. Mr. Palmquist indicated he did not think they could make the parking work for a fast food restaurant, because you would need a drive-thru. Commissioner Trude asked what else could be located in the second building. Mr. Palmquist suggested a Chipotle-style restaurant would work. Commissioner Trude indicated they usually do not like to be stand alone buildings. She wondered if they are just sectioning off a piece of the parcel and will end up making more parking for Target. Mr. Palmquist stated that is a developer risk. Commissioner Trude asked again what could be there. She stated the Target covenants will not allow anything to be sold that they sell. She indicated they want a restaurant, but do not have the lunch crowd. ~) Commissioner Knight asked if the lack of a lunch crowd was due to the lack of offices, and more offices are coming. Mr. Palmquist agreed that was true. Commissioner Jacobson verified they want to keep it as one lot, but they would build two I buildings on the lot, which the city normally does not allow. Mr. Neumeister stated it is the same I ownership, and has been allowed in another case. Commissioner Jacobson asked what they would put there if they cannot get a restaurant. He stated if they sit with a vacant building they will be under pressure to put something in there, and this is a prime location. Also, this is a main entrance for Target. He indicated TCF is asking for six drive-thru aisles, which does not leave much room for stacking. Mr. Palmquist indicated TCF looked at it, and are comfortable with the space. Commissioner Jacobson asked if they need six lanes. Commissioner Trude indicated no one gets out of the car anymore, so the only parking they really need is for employees. Mr. Palmquist indicated they have 60 spaces between the two buildings. Mr. Dickinson indicated TCF is geared more toward individual consumers, not commercial, so they need more drive-thru lanes. He stated he participated in a survey for TCF, and one result of that was that they wanted to target homeowners from the immediate area. President Gamache asked if Ryan Companies would build the second building or wait until they , ) had a tenant. Mr. Palmquist stated they would probably build it now due to economy of scale. ,----. Commissioner Trude asked if they could attach the two buildings. Mi. Palmquist indicated they could not. They could not get the drive-thru to work, and they do need to have some parking space. Commissioner Trude asked ifthey would just leave it as a shell until they have a tenant. (J () /~ Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting \, j Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 4 Mr. Palmquist stated they would complete the outside per the Andover Station guidelines, and leave the inside until they have a tenant. Commissioner Jacobson asked if they just see it as a fast-food type restaurant, or if they would considering splitting it and having two tenants. Mr. Palmquist indicated he could see the latter. Commissioner Jacobson asked with the list of restaurants contacted, how does that affect the two sites west of there. Mr. Palmquist indicated he does not know. Commissioner Trude stated they almost need to find a new franchise that wants to come into this area. Mr. Dickinson noted they are looking for concept plan approval, and also approval of the amendment, subject to review and approval of the City Attorney. Commissioner Trude asked if the lunch crowd does come in later, are there other sites that would be available for sit-down restaurants at that time. Mr. Neumeister indicated there are. Commissioner Trude asked if they still felt 1.7 acres was the right size. Mr. Palmquist indicated he feels it is a little large. Commissioner Trude stated Andover's parking requirements are a little different than other cities. Mr. Palmquist stated Target's parking requirements are higher . ì than the City's. '- J Commissioner Trude stated she has no problem with the bank. She has a problem with chiseling down the lot, but understands the challenges. She asked staff if they were giving something up by approving this plan. Mr. Dickinson stated he did not think so, and they would be getting the lot developed. He indicated it is in a TIF district, and they need to get buildings up and start leveraging that. Commissioner Knight agreed, stating if the building is up it will go faster than they think. Commissioner Trude thanked Mr. Palmquist for sharing their research with the city. Commissioner Jacobson noted the request is for retail/restaurant, but that is not what they will get. Mr. Palmquist stated the request would be to allow an amendment to the covenant to allow a bank, and to allow two buildings on one lot. He indicated they will bring a more detailed plan later. They will try to get a restaurant, but cannot guarantee they will. Commissioner Trude asked if it could be a service business, such as a dry cleaner. Mr. Palmquist stated some service businesses would be allowed. Commissioner Trude indicated she is sure people will be happy to see a bank go in, and she knows TCF is popular. President Gamache stated he would favor the proposal as given today. Commissioner Trude asked if staff has any concerns. Mr. Neumeister stated the architectural review will need to be done. He indicated originally they were requesting a lot split for the two " buildings, and staff thought the lot was too small, but the second building could be a small office (--.-.II and if it was done to look like the bank, would look nice. Mr. Dickinson noted it is not much smaller than the other office space on Emmerich's parcel. Mr. Palmquist stated it could only be one story. He indicated there is an operating and easement agreement between Ryan Companies and Target that limits the height so it does not block the store, and that limits it to one story. ,-, ù ~j ~) Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 5 Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, to approve an amendment to the covenants to allow a [mancial institution on Lot 2, Block 1, Andover Marketplace East, subject to review of the City Attorney. Motion carried unanimously. Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, to approve two buildings to be constructed on Lot 2, Block 1, Andover Marketplace East. Commissioner Jacobson asked if when Ryan Companies goes to sell, they will have to sell the buildings together, and will not be able to come in for a lot split. Mr. Dickinson indicated they could do a PUD on the property. Mr. Paulson stated they would not want to split the lots because the lot lines would not be neat. He indicated he has talked to their finance people and discussed the exit strategy and he does not feel they will have a problem selling both buildings on the one lot. Mr. Neumeister indicated if you look at the Emmerich Office Building, you have individual lots with one common lot, similar to a townhouse situation, and it works. Commissioner Jacobson commented that what they have here is a concept plan, and he would be very concerned when the ~J plans come in to see the traffic patterns, signage, etc. He stated he will hold Ryan Companies' feet to the fIre when the details come in, and they will have to meet all ordinances. Mr. Dickinson noted the Ryan Companies are saying they are committed to building two buildings, and we will see the fInal product when it comes back. Commissioner Jacobson stated he is concerned with more than the exterior. He would like to see the plans before they are so far along changes cannot be made. He does not want to see them ask for variances; the plans need to meet the codes. Motion carried unanimously. DISCUSS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR ANDOVER STATION NORTH Mr. Neumeister stated the discussion is to review the materials provided by United Properties & Meridian Land Co., Town and Country Homes, Bruggeman Homes, Ryland Homes, and Positive Development, Inc. Commissioner Trude stated the clarification from Meridian Land Company did not clarify very well. She indicated the question was if they were proposing income assisted housing or elderly assisted housing, and the letter said income assisted. She advised she asked Mike Mulrooney how he would approach a big site like this, and he said the housing usually comes last because '\ otherwise the people living there object to everything else you try to do. ,-_J Mr. Neumeister thinks housing should be fIrst, but they need the commercial to be hand in hand with housing because they need the big developers to help with streets and utilities. Mr. Dickinson indicated one issue is that restaurants and retail like to locate next to dense housing. ,-' Ü ~J /- " Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting ~-) Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 6 Mr. Neumeister indicated he asked Keith Ulstad from United Properties to write up his thoughts on whether the power sub-station could be moved. He said he would be willing to discuss it, but there would be less retail. He indicated it would have to be more showroom or light industrial or office buildings toward the back, but United Properties would be willing to work with the EDA on it. Commissioner Trude stated it says United Properties would be willing to operate and control the property for eight years if we allow them to, however she is wondering if they should not have staff market it. Mr. Neumeister indicated the City could act as the developer, but if United Properties will hold it for eight years it must mean they expect slow marketing. They should market the south twenty acres as soon as possible to help with construction of utilities and streets, and having staff market it would put a different spin on financing as well. They should bring the utilities and streets halfway to get to the housing, but the point is they will want to stage the south half. Commissioner Knight asked why this is five lanes if Station Parkway is only four lanes. He questioned if they expected this road to have more traffic. Mr. Neumeister stated the study \ ') showed approximately 11,000 cars a day on this road, which would need five lanes. President j Gamache noted Station Parkway is four lanes with protected left turn lanes. Commissioner Jacobson agreed that if they are putting the residential in fIrst, people get used to the blank land very quickly. He would suggest they protect the land along Bunker Lake Boulevard, and put residential in the northwest comer, then try to put in retail. President Gamache stated he is favoring staff's recommendation of doing the road halfway. Commissioner Knight indicated if they received good proposals they would not want to limit the development. Commissioner Jacobson agreed, but stated so far they have not received good proposals. Commissioner Trude indicated Mike Mulrooney said United Properties is just a broker and is tying the City up. Mr. Dickinson indicated staff agrees. Mr. Neumeister stated it is not good to plan for land use and then market it. They would want to make sure there is balance with housing and some industrial so they can get help with the streets and utilities. Mr. Dickinson suggested they give staff a year and see how it goes. Commissioner Jacobson suggested Mike Mulrooney would work off commission. Mr. Neumeister thinks by marketing it themselves they can preserve some revenue that would have to be paid in broker fees. They need to figure out a way to get the residential portion going, and there may be some short-term financing the City will need to cover, but they have TIP money and ,,) development fees to help fund it. Commissioner Trude noted the engineers may say it is better to do the whole road rather than only half of it. Mr. Dickinson explained they would build one road all the way. He advised this will be a parkway system, with one side being built fIrst to handle two-way traffic, and () 0 ,/ \. Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting \_.-J Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 7 converting that when the second side of the road is built. This way they can get the road all the way to the residential area. Commissioner Jacobson asked staff to refresh him on the Metropolitan Council's requirements and what the City said they would do. Mr. Neumeister indicated it was originally ten acres of high density to meet the affordable housing requirements. He stated the City met with them and asked if they were to blend that ten acres with the low density Povlitzki property it would be okay, and the Metropolitan Council agreed. Commissioner Trude indicated they cannot force the market, either. Mr. Neumeister stated sixteen acres at medium density will be close to the numbers needed to fulfill the requirements. Mr. Neumeister noted that one other point of not including Meridian is they were depending on redesigning the holding pond, and were also tied to United Properties. Commissioner Trude stated she read the proposals, and she likes Bruggeman. She indicated it seems like smaller developers offer houses with more quality than the national developers. She has seen better quality and workmanship from the smaller developers. C~) (Commissioner Orttel arrive at 7:00 p.m.) Commissioner Jacobson stated they have to be very conscious of what backs up to the homes already there, but it will have to have more density then what is adjacent to this property. He indicated he would hate to see the same design as in Andover South; he would prefer something different. Mr. Neumeister indicated one point of clarification is that the Bruggeman plan has two different housing styles within the site. Commissioner Trude asked if there was a shared wall on the one level townhomes. The Bruggeman representative stated there is a common wall, however in tenns of noise between units they have many details with the walls that really limits nOIse. Commissioner Trude confirmed the plan was to have single-level townhomes next to the adjacent single-family homes, with more traditional tOwnhomes closer to the commercial portion, and that the tOwnhomes were expected to be $170,000 to $190,000. The Bruggeman representative indicated that was correct. Mr. Neumeister noted that Brad Povlitzki stopped by and infonned staff he would be very interested in selling the triangle piece of property to the housing developer of the EDA's choice. He stated they have also talked about bringing tOwnhomes all the way to Jay Street, which allows them to market the townhomes without having to go by commercial buildings to get to them. President Gamache agreed that was a good idea. U Commissioner Jacobson asked what action is needed tonight; asking if they were to select a developer and direct that developer to put more detail into the concept plan and come back. Mr. Neumeister stated that was what they needed. He indicated staff will have to look at phasing with streets and utilities. Mr. Dickinson indicated before they could fmalize anything they will () Ü / '\ Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting \...~ Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 8 need to come back to the EDA with financial details. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the proposal from Bruggeman Homes with the provision of acceptance of the fmal concept plan and contingent on making an agreement with Povlitzki's and putting both parcels together. Commissioner Trude indicated by the one-level townhomes that are adjacent to the single-family homes, it would be nice to preserve as many trees as possible. Commissioner Knight indicated that with regard to the homes to the west, as much buffering in that area as can be provided would also be appreciated. Commissioner Jacobson stated with regard to density, he does not want to go too dense, but he wants to make sure they meet the Metropolitan Council agreement. Commissioner Knight asked staff to get the original language of the original agreement. Commissioner Trude stated she is assuming the plan may change, but that it will still have some nice site amenities. Commissioner Orttel asked what happened to the idea to have single-family homes (.~) on the Povlitzki property. Commissioner Jacobson stated they have it in the proposal that the one- level townhomes will be close to the single-family homes. Mr. Neumeister stated the EDA can ask that staff work with Bruggeman and see if they can work that out. Mr. Dickinson stated he also questions if someone would want to invest in that style of home by the ballfield. Mr. Neumeister indicated there could be a market for a one-unit townhome that looks like a single-family home, but is more in line with townhome pricing. Commissioner Orttel asked if they are just going with the developer they want, but not looking at that developer's specific proposal. Commissioner Jacobson stated they have graphics, with the understanding it may change. Mr. Dickinson noted they will have to come back with a significant amount of items before approvals can be made. Motion Carreid on a 4- Y es (Gamache, Trude, Jacobson, Knight) 1 - Abstain (Orttel) vote. Commissioner Orttel asked if the idea was that staff would be marketing the property. Mr. Neumeister indicated the EDA would like to hold off on the parcels right on Bunker and develop a marketing plan for the other parcels. Commissioner Orttel stated this was nothing against staff, but it is not their expertise. Mr. Neumeister stated they may include Mike Mulrooney. Commissioner Jacobson stated they can see what will change, and may want to involve him if appropriate. Mr. Dickinson indicated staff would propose a joint marketing effort with a performance-based agreement on the outside representation, and no commission from the staff size. Commissioner (~ Knight suggested they not shut out Bunker. He indicated if something came in that fits, they should consider it. Commissioner Orttel indicated two pages of restaurants said we do not meet their demographics, and he is wondering what demographics they are using. Commissioner Trude stated the problem is they (J Cj / -', Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting ; \~ ~J Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 9 have no daytime business. Mr. Dickinson indicated that being next to the sub-station, they are looking at a business that can create jobs in that area. Commissioner Orttel wondered if it is time to look at incentives to get a restaurant in the area, as it would be a real benefit. Mr. Dickinson indicated they can look at incentives to small businesses. CONSIDER ANDOVER BOWLING CENTER AT ANDOVER STATION Mr. Neumeister indicated this item is to review the plan for a bowling facility. He advised a bowling alley classified as 'Indoor Commercial Recreation' is a permitted use under the design guidelines. He indicated the preliminary design of the bowling alley shows a 25,000 square foot building with 24 lanes, a game room, arcade, bar, lounge, and snack area with seating for 240 customers. He stated the bowling alley will be located on the south side of Tanner's Steakhouse, where a sit-down restaurant was originally planned. The Andover Review Committee has reviewed the plan and is in favor of the development. He indicated in order to move forward with the project, the applicant will need approval of the Andover Station Association, to complete the commercial site plan process, and obtain a conditional use permit for alcohol sales. /\ Mr. Neumeister indicated that one issue that came up in the review is that the south elevation is \._, ) facing the banquet hall, and the east elevation is facing the movie theatre. The west elevation would be facing Martin Street, and he wonders if the building should be flipped so the best side of the building is facing Martin Street. Commissioner Jacobson asked if this project would not be better for Andover North. Commissioner Orttel indicated Andover South was supposed to be the recreation area. Commissioner Trude stated she likes the place. She indicated as a parent, this way you can have one child go to a movie, and the other go bowling. President Gamache asked for the applicant's thoughts on the layout. Dan Dahlin indicated they laid it out the way it is to get cross-traffic with the movie theatre. He stated he has a meeting with the architect tomorrow, and they will look at how to jazz up the long wall. Commissioner Knight noted it talks about seating for 240 people; he asked where the seating would be. Mr. Dahlin indicated that includes the bowling seating. Commissioner Trude asked if the food would be hamburger baskets and such. Mr. Dahlin indicated that was correct. He stated he also owns Ham Lake Lanes, and will carry over the concept ofleaving some lanes for open bowling at all times instead of having all leagues on peak / '\ nights. \..J President Gamache asked if they would be open until 2:00 a.m. Mr. Dahlin indicated they are not. He stated he has a 2:00 a.m. license, but only utilizes it on New Year's Eve. 0 () Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting '\. J Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 10 Commissioner Orttel asked if they would have a full liquor license. Mr. Dahlin stated they would. Commissioner Trude asked about smoking. Mr. Dahlin indicated he would rather go non-smoking, but he does not know if it would work. He stated there is only one other bowling center in Minnesota that is non-smoking. Mr. Neumeister indicated he thinks with Target on Martin Street, there will be more traffic. If you are at the movie theater and want to go bowling, you will find the entrance. Commissioner Trude asked if the parking was shared with the movie theatre. Mr. Dahlin indicated it is. President Gamache stated that the parking would be more of a factor to determine the building front. Mr. Neumeister advised that the front of the building lines up with Tanners also. Commissioner Trude stated she feels it is a marketing decision. Commissioner Knight agreed. He stated he is not in favor of telling the applicant which way the building should go. Commissioner Trude asked if there is landscaping between the property and Tanner's. Mr. Dahlin stated there is a walkway, which will be preserved. Commissioner Jacobson asked if this is a separate lot. Mr. Neumeister indicated it is. , Commissioner Orttel asked if it is possible to dress it up on the street side so the front could be \ ) wherever they want. He indicated there could be fake windows or something. Commissioner Jacobson asked what materials would be used. He stated they saw samples before. Mr. Neumeister indicated they would have to go with the color scheme of the area. Commissioner Jacobson indicated color is not the same as material. Mr. Dahlin indicated he could get a sample of the pre-fabricated panels. Mr. Neumeister stated they have approved the panels before. Mr. Dickinson indicated this will come back as a commercial site plan if the EDA makes that a requirement. He noted it will not be reviewed by the association. President Gamache indicated Mike Quigley will be part of the project as well, so he does not think they will see something different than the other buildings there. He indicated Emmerich will also be involved. Commissioner Trude stated they had to approve all the aspects of Tanner's Steakhouse, and asked what has changed. Mr. Dickinson indicated the design guidelines are different here. He stated it would go through a commercial site plan. Commissioner Orttel stated if the general site plan looks good, they should send it through for now. Commissioner Trude hopes the restaurantlbar does not become a bar, but remains a food source with liquor available. Mr. Dahlin indicated it will be the same as Ham Lake Lanes. .... \ Commissioner Orttel stated the liquor license indicated it has to be 50% food. Mr. Dickinson I "- j indicated that is only for the Sunday liquor license. Commissioner Orttel stated it still says the bar can only be part of the restaurant. Mr. Neumeister stated it will be part of the development agreement. He indicated this body will () 0 , Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting , ¡ Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 11 only see the site plan. Commissioner Orttel indicated he would like to see the traffic flows on this site, and asked if they could have that come back. Mr. Neumeister indicated he would suggest a motion that the EDA is in favor of the use, and is recommending the applicant go through the site plan and come back for the conditional use permit and liquor license review. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight to approve the motion as outlined. Commissioner Jacobson asked if there was any way they could convince the applicant to put this on the north side of Bunker Lake Boulevard. He is suggesting if they use the space up now, and they are trying to get a restaurant, the bowling alley site may be better by the power line. He indicated once you are inside the building you will not see the power line, and he thinks there are some advantages to being on the north side. Commissioner Orttel indicated he heard they were going to try to do more office and retail space, but he does not know what the schedule is. He indicated the bigger issue is if they start '\ competing against private companies and take their buyers. "' I - Motion Carried on a 4-Yes, I-No (Jacobson) vote. UPDATE - TIF DISTRCIT NO. 1- 4 Mr. Dickinson indicated this is an update, with no action needed. Staff is working with Ehlers and Associates on TIF District # 1-4. He stated they were before the Anoka County Board this morning, with no comments provided. He indicated they are moving forward in the area, and had inspection on three buildings; Andover Liquor, Rick's Building and the Landscape Building. He stated they will have a presentation at the June 1 st City Council meethÌg, but may suggest it is tabled, because not all the informàtion is in from the applicant. He added they have another applicant that has asked to be put in. It would require another 30-day comment period. Mr. Dickinson advised the other parcel is on the north side of 162nd, and would be better than creating a new district if they are planning to do something in the next two to five years. Commissioner Trude asked if they would only take those with frontage. Mr. Dickinson indicated they would, and those with a gateway to the park. Commissioner Trude asked if they should see if there are others rather than deferring. Mr. Dickinson stated if staff recommends that they defer it will be because they are receiving information that others are interested. He indicated he ) thinks the process on this has gotten others thinking they should consider their own situation. \ - Commissioner Orttel asked if the County is part of this. Mr. Dickinson stated this is TIF. He indicated abatement is where the County would have to comment and participate. Commissioner Orttel asked if Andover would get the County's share of taxes also. Mr. o 0 \ Andover Economic Development Authority Meeting \, I Minutes - May 25, 2004 Page 12 Dickinson stated they would. Commissioner Trude stated they said they would only spend the money if the request was valid. She asked ifthey have looked at that. Mr. Dickinson indicated they have not. Commissioner Trude stated they can only spend money in certain ways with TIF. Mr. Dickinson indicated they can spend it within the building with specific criteria. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Karen Bucklen, Recording Secretary \ ".._/' I \ \_-)