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SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 20,2004 -MINUTES
A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache at 4:06 P.M., Friday, February 20, 2004 at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers Present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmembers Absent: None
Also Present: John Erar, City Administrator
Jim Dickinson, Finimce Director
Tony Howard, Community Center Capital Campaign
Frank Kellogg, Community Center Capital Campaign
Darren Lazan, Community Center Capital Campaign
COMMUNITY CENTER ISSUES
Council reviewed various memos relating to the sharing of the concessions, construction
costs and fundraising with the YMCA. Councilmember Jacobson asked what amount has
been raised through the campaign and where they think they will be in the middle Df
March.
Tony Howard noted that the amount now is between $675,000 and $700,000. Some of
the larger companies such as Medtronic, Ryan Companies and United Properties have
been contacted but it is not known what, if anything, they would contribute. Mr. Lazan's
group is going to kick off on February 24th at 5:30 pm, Mr. Howard explained that 200
volunteers are needed and on1y 30 have signed on so far. Frank Kellogg stated that the
other athletic associations are willing to help also.
Councilmember Knight asked what they project as their ultimate figure. Mr. Kellogg
stated between 2 and 2.5 million dollars.
Councilmember Jacobson stated that the third paragraph of the letter from the YMCA
disturbs him where it says "the city agrees to be solely responsible for any resulting
negative fmancial impacts to the YMCA and the City." His understanding of the letter is
that up to 1.6 million dollars will go to the YMCA and if that amount is not raised the
city would be required to make up the difference.
Mr. Erar stated that we are not really giving the YMCA any money; we're giving them
proceeds as a buy down on their cost.
Special City Council Meeting
February 20,2004 - Minutes
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Councilmember Jacobson noted that the Memorandum of Understanding says whatever
we raise will be split 51/49 and the letter from the YMCA contradicts that. Mr, Erar
explained that the resolution says that the YMCA's commitment to the facility is
dependent on the fundraising. They don't want to start construction before the
fundraising is complete.
Councilmember Jacobson understands that the Y is concerned about making their debt
service payments. He asked what it would mean for a $200,000 house if we raised 2
million to 2.5 million and gave 1.6 million to the YMCA. Mr. Dickinson noted that the
original estimate was $39-$45 and this would change to $50-$56 on a $200,000 house.
Mayor Gamache noted that the YMCA would not move ahead with this project if they
were doing the fundraising. The Council made the decision that the ice arena would be
done in October 2004. Robie Wayne s<rid that they would extend out their fundraising
until they meet their goal,
Mr. Erar explained that the letter from the YMCA was not a demand but a clarification of
their position. It is an issue of affordability for the YMCA. The camp<rign would help
buy down their portion of the debt. They need to keep their debt service payments at the
level where they can afford to go ahead with the pnject.
Councilmember Orttel suggested that the city capture excess revenue from the YMCA if
they go over the number of memberships they need.
Mr. Erar noted that the YMCA knows they will be paying a full year of debt service in
2005 even though they will not be occupying the building until the middle of the year.
Mr. Dickinson explained that the city is looking at the possibility of not using capitalized
interest but buying insurance instead. The YMCA's interest payment in 2005 would be
$305,000 and the city's would be $315,000.
Councilmember Jacobson thought that Mr. Erar should go to the YMCA and get
something that we can both agree on before March 16. Mr. Erar stated that the principal
argument is that the Y needs to keep their cash flow costs at $500,000 - $575,000. The
capital camp<rign should be extended until 2005 prior to opening the rest of the facility.
Councilmember Jacobson stated that the YMCA needs to be reminded of what we told
our residents regarding the amount that would be on their property taxes. He felt that the
city needs to have something in writing by the 16th of March. Mr. Erar noted that the
calculations on park dedication fees are going to be approximately $250,000 more than
anticipated on Andover Station South and suggested any additional fees go to the facility.
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Special City Council Meeting
February 20, 2004 - Minutes
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Mr. Erar was requested to: 1) achieve a balance where the YMCA needs to be. Keeping
their payments to $550,000 a year will be the first goal; 2) to extend the campaign until
June or July of2005; 3) Based on the level of memberships, if it's above their number
would the city be able to share in that revenue stream.
Concession Split
Mr. Erar explained that the split would be the 51/49 for the concessions. Councilmember
Trude suggested that the concessions be a separate agreement. Mr. Erar stated that given
the fact that the lease is a legal document it's important to have the 'concessions put in the
lease. A part of the lease could read that every 12 months we will re-evaluate the
concessions.
RLK LETTER
RLK has submitted a proposal for traffic engineering services to determine the amount of
present and future traffic on Hanson Boulevard due to the development adjacent to the
Community Center.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Trude that we accept the RLK proposal. Vote on
motion: Yes - Gamache, Knight, Trude, Jacobson; No - Orttel. Motion carried.
Motion by Orttel, seconded by Jacobson to adjourn. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 5:36 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
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Vicki Volk, City Clerk
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