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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC February 17, 2004 ~ C\.A.-.--' lúl t:fux1 3-/-ðt 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (783) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755·8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US Regular City Council Meeting - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 Call to Order - 7:00 p.m. Pledge of Allegiance Resident Forum Agenda Approval 1. Approval of Minutes (1/27/04 Special; 2/3/04 Regular) 2. Introduction of Anoka County Sheriffs Deputies-2004 - Sherif.! 3. Presentation/ACE Solid Waste - Administration 4. Presentation! Anoka-Hennepin School Dist. III Andover High School Book Club - Clerk 5. Presentation/ Anoka County/Economic Development Legislation - Administration 6. Presentation/2002 Certificate and Award of Financial Reporting Achievement/Finance Department Consent Items 7. Approve Payment of Claims - Finance 8. Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/04-2/2004 Overlays - Engineering 9. Approve Joint Powers Agreement/04-1 O/Bunker Lake Boulevard NW & Quinn Street NW/Traffic Signal - Engineering 10. Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/02-46/Fire Station #3/SS & WM - Engineering II. Approve Resident Discount/City of Anoka Pool- Engineering 12. Approve Purchase oflce Machine/Sunshine Park Concessions - Engineering 13. Approve Raffle PermitINorth Metro Soccer Assn. - Clerk 14. Approve Bingo Permit/Crooked Lake Elem. School- Clerk IS. Consider 2004 Grant Application Round/04-6 - Engineering 16. Approve Sunshine Park Concession Contract - Finance 17. Vulnerability Assessment Summary/03-30/Authorize EOP/ERP - Engineering Discussion Items 18. Receive Anoka County Sheriff s Department Monthly Report - Sherif.! 19. A ward Bond Sale/Capital Improvements & Refunding Bonds/Ehlers & Associates - Finance 20. Approve Plans & Specs/Authorize Advertisement for Bids/Bid Pkg. # 3/ Andover-YMCA Community Center Project - Administration 21. Consider Variance to Front & Sideyard Setbacks/921 - 158th Avenue NW - Planning 22. Consider Rezoning/R-I to R-4/l021 Crosstown Boulevard - Planning 23. Consider Preliminary Plat/Sophies Manor/1021 Crosstown Blvd.- Planning 24. Consider Residential Sketch Plan!13309 Jay Street - Planning 25. Consider Request/Rum River Elementary SchoollTrail Improvements Along I 68th Lane NW - Engineering ,-" ., Staff Item 26. Update on 2004 CDBG Funding Allocations/Approve New Resolution - Community Development 27. Discuss New Standard Street Section - Engineering Mayor/Council Input Adjournment REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - FEBRUARY 17,2004 TABLE OF CONTENTS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE ...............................,.,.........................,.................,......................,1 RESIDENT FORDM..........,...........,........."...........,....................................................................1 AGENDA APPROV AL .....................................,.............................................,.........................1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES...,........................,..........,..................................,.........................,..1 INTRODUCTION OF ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES - 2004...........................2 PRESENT A TION/ ACE SOLID WASTE ..................................................................................2 PRESENTATION/ANOKA-HENNEPIN SCHOOL DISTRICT II/ANDOVER HIGH SCHOOL BOOK CLUB.....................................................................................,..............,...2 PRESENTATION/2002 CERTIFICATE AND AWARD OF FINANCIAL REPORTING ACHIEVEMENT/FINANCE DEPARTMENT .........".........................................................2 CONSENT ITEMS Approve Payment of Claims .,.......................................................,.........................."...........3 Resolution R030-04 accepting Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearingl04-2/2004 Overlays .... ........... ......... ............................ .................... .............. ............ ............. ............3 Approve Joint Powers Agreement/04-I O/Bunker Lake Boulevard NW & Quinn Street NW /Traffic Signal...............................,...............................................................,.3 Resolution R03I-04 accepting Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearingl02-46/Fire Station #3/SS & WM .............................................,..................................................".....3 Approve Resident Discount/City of Anoka Poo!..................................................................3 Approve Purchase ofIce Machine/Sunshine Park Concessions...........................................3 Approve RaflIe PermitINorth Metro Soccer Assn................................................................3 Approve Bingo Permit/Crooked Lake Elementary Schoo!...................................................3 Approve Sunshine Park Concession Contract ......................................................................3 Vulnerability Assessment Surnmary/03-30/Authorize EOP/ERP ........................................3 RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT Received ............,...................................................................................................................3 AWARD BOND SALE/CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS & REFUNDING BONDS/EHLERS & ASSOCIATES Motion to approve Bonds, Series 2004A(Res. 032-04).........................................................4 Motion to approve Bonds, Series 2004B(Res. 033-04).........,.............,.................................4 APPROVE PLANS & SPECS/AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS/BID PKG. #3/ANDOVER-YMCA COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT Resolution R034-04 to Authorize................,.................................................,.,.....................5 PRESENTATION/ ANOKA COUNTY /ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEGIS LA TION ......6 CONSIDER VARIANCE TO FRONT & SIDE YARD SETBACKS/92 1-1 58TH AVENUE NW Resolution035-04 to approve.....................................,........................................................... 7 CONSIDER REZONING/R-l TO R-4/l02l CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD Motion to approve Ordinance 285.........................................................................................8 CONSIDER PRELIMJNARY PLAT/SOPHIE'S MANOR/l02l CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD - Item Tabled ..............,........................,........,.........,...........,......................................,...............9 CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLANIl3309 JAY STREET.......................................9 CONSIDER REQUEST/RUM RIVER ELEMENTARY SCHOOUIRAIL IMPROVEMENTS ALONG 168m LANE NW ...................................................................12 CONSIDER 2004 GRANT APPLICATION ROUND/04-6 Motion to acknowledge .......,..............................................,..................................................13 UPDATE ON 2004 CDBG FUNDING ALLOCATIONS/APPROVE NEW RESOLUTION Resolution036-04 to approve.,.......................................... .........,........................................,. .13 DISCUSS NEW STANDARD STREET SECTION..................................................................I4 MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT Skateboard Park ...........................................................................................................,.........15 Workshop - Community Center Issues .................................................................................15 ADJOURNMENT ......................................................................................................................15 C I T Y o F NDOVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755.5100 FAX (763) 755·8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 17, 2004 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike Gamache, February 17, 2004, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude Councilmember absent: None Also present: City Attorney, William Hawkins City Engineer, Dave Berkowitz City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson Community Development Director, Will Neumeister City Administrator, John Erar Others PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RESIDENT FORUM No one wished to address the Council. AGENDA APPRO V AL Remove from the Agenda and Table Item 23, (Consider Preliminary PlatlSophies Manor). Remove from Consent Items for discussion Items 15, (Consider 2004 Grant Application Roundl04-6). It was noted that Item 23 has been asked by the applicant to be tabled until March 2, 2004. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Trude, to approve the Agenda as amended above. Motion carried unanimously. APPROVAL OF MINUTES January 27, 2004, Special Meeting: Correct as written. February 3, 2004, Regular Meeting: Correct as written Councilmember Trude stated on page 9 the second paragraph; last sentence should read Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 2 "Councilmember Trude stated the staff report states it cannot receive city sewer or water un1ess it is rezoned to R-4." She also stated on page 10, sixth paragraph, the resident's name should be "Mrs. Martha Woodcock". She also noted the paragraph should include wording stating the resident was informed that she could still use her driveway; the plan does not restrict her access to Crosstown. Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, approval of Minutes as amended. Motion carried unanimously. INTRODUCTION OF ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES - 2004 Sheriff Bruce Andersohn from the Anoka County Sheriff's Office introduced the Sheriff's Deputies in Andover for 2004. PRESENTATION/ACE SOLID WASTE Ms. Julie Rosenberg, ACE Solid Waste, made a presentation to the City Council and presented a check for $460.00 to the City for the Parks Department. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight to accept the check from ACE Solid Waste. Mr. Dickinson stated he would be bringing back a Resolution for approval so no motion would be needed at this time. PRESENTATION/ANOKA-HENNEPIN SCHOOL DIST. ll/ANDOVER HIGH SCHOOL BOOK CLUB Students from Andover High School's Read 'N Feed Book Club made a presentation to inform the public about their book club. Mayor Gamache read a proclamation given by the City to the Andover High School's Read 'N Feed Book Club and Mr. Robert Alexander. Councilmember Trude wanted to congratulate the students of Andover High School for taking the initiative to promote reading and she wished them luck. PRESENTATION/2002 CERTIFICATE AND AWARD OF FINANCIAL REPORTING ACHIEVEMENT/FINANCE DEPARTMENT City Finance Director Dickinson read the news release regarding the Certificate of Achievement for Excellence in Financial Reporting. Mr. Dickinson stated this is something he has been trying to Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 3 achieve since he came to Andover and with Mr. Lee Brezinka's help they have been able to achieve this. Councilmember Jacobson asked how many awards are given out throughout the United States. Mr. Dickinson stated he thought there was around one thousand. Councilmember Jacobson stated this is indeed a high achievement. Councilmember Orttel thanked Mr. Dickinson and the staff for ajob well done. Mayor Gamache presented the Certificate and A ward of Financial Reporting Achievement to the Andover Finance Department. CONSENT ITEMS Item 7 Approval of Claims Item 8 Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/04-2/2004 Overlays (See Resolution R030-04) Item 9 Approve Joint Powers Agreement/04-I O/Bunker Lake Boulevard NW & Quinn Street NWffraffic Signal Item 10 Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/02-46/Fire Station #3/SS & WM (See Resolution R03I-04) Item 11 Approve Resident Discount/City of Anoka Pool Item 12 Approve Purchase ofIce Machine/Sunshine Park Concessions Item 13 Approve Raffle PennitINorth Metro Soccer Assn. Item 14 Approve Bingo Pennit/Crooked Lake Elementary School Item 16 Approve Sunshine Park Concession Contract Item 17 Vulnerability Assessment Summary/03-30/Authorize EOPIERP Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT Lieutenant Tom Wells, Anoka County Sheriff's Department, provided an update on law enforcement activities occurring within Andover. Councilmember Jacobson stated last month there was some extraordinary activity going on in the Shadowbrook Development with robberies and such and he wondered if there was anything like this going on elsewhere in the City. Lieutenant Wells stated there was not. Councilmember Knight stated he was seeing the numbers going up on various items month after month and he wondered if the numbers were going up throughout the County. Lieutenant Wells Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 4 stated he thought it was consistent with what they are seeing elsewhere. The County is growing and with people moving in, there will be more incidences. Councilmember Trude stated she has seen quite a few snowmobile tracks in the southern part of the City and she wondered if they have had an increase in complaints from residents. Lieutenant Wells stated they have not had a lot of complaints. Councilmember Knight stated he has received a couple calls where peoples' driveways have become tracked down by snowmobilers and some people cannot get out and shovel. He did not think people are doing it on purpose but he wanted to make a plea to people to think about this because it makes a big difference to some people. AWARD BOND SALE/CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS & REFUNDING BONDSÆHLERS & ASSOCIATES Mr. Mark Ruff, Ehlers & Associates, presented the results of the City's sale of the G.O. Capital Improvement Bonds, Series 2004A authorized at the January 6, 2004 Council meeting. Councilmember Jacobson stated on both bonds, the rate on the first bond was 3.2 and the second was 2.8. He wondered why the interest rates were different. Mr. Ruff stated it has to do with how long the bonds go out. The fIrst bond goes out until 2017 and the second bond goes out until 2013. Interest rates get higher the longer they are out there. Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, to accept the bid from Cronin & Company, Inc. and adopt the Resolution Providing for the Issuance and Sale of $3,890,000 General Obligation Capital Improvement Plan Bonds, Series 2004A. Motion carried unanimously. (Resolution R032-04) Mr. Ruffpresented the results of the City's sale of the G.O. Tax Increment Refunding Bonds, Series 2004B authorized at the January 6, 2004 Council meeting. Councilmember Jacobson explained when they add these two bonds together, they are over eight million dollars and he wanted to let the residents know that these are for refmancing of existing debt and they are saving money and are not taking on additional debt. Motion by OrtteI, Seconded by Trude, to accept the bid from Cronin & Company, Inc. and Adopt the Resolution Providing for the Issuance and Sale of $4,260,000 General Obligation Tax Increment Refunding Bonds, Series 2004B. Motion carried unanimously. (Resolution R033-04) Councilmember Trude asked if they will be getting the same type of interest rate when they fmance the Community Center. Mr. Ruff stated with the Community Center, they are talking about thirty year fmancing as opposed to ten or fifteen years. Right now, interest rates are very favorable and he thought the interest rates would be around four or five percent. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 5 Councilmember Knight asked if there was a time in spring where adjustments are normally made. Mr. Ruff stated historically when they look at interest rate cycles for tax exempt bonds, sometime at the beginning to the end of April they start to see interest rates go up. During election years, the interest rates do not tend to go up as much. APPROVE PLANS & SPECS/AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS/BID PKG. #3/ANDOVER-YMCA COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT City Administrator Erar explained the City Council is requested to authorize advertisement for bids for Bid Package #3 - Building Package. This package includes all building elements associated with the Community Center, including the Ice Arena, Aquatics Center, Fitoess Center, Field house and all supporting building infrastructure. Plans and specifications are being completed by Rozeboom Miller and will be issued on March 8, 2004, Staff will be doing a final check plan of all building codes, fire codes, mechanical, electrical and building materials prior to issuance. This will be the second code review of all building system components. Mr. Bob Josard, RJM, discussed the staff report with the City Council. Councilmember Jacobson wanted to make sure there is a clause in this that says the City has a right to reject for any reason. He stated they are just advertising right now but when the bids come in, he wants to make sure they can reject all of the bids, if they choose to, without penalty, Mr. Josard stated that is a standard piece of AlA wording. Councilmember Jacobson stated there is a letter from RJM in the staff report talking about the bid package, the second paragraph states "...as part of this bid package..." Mr. Josard stated this was in error and part of bid package two. Councilmember Jacobson stated he wanted to make 5ure it is on the record that they were interested in the Hanson/Bluebird intersection to be a full intersection and not just a right infright out. Mr. Josard stated they have an extended alternate period, They have ninety days to decide and hopefully within those ninety days they are successful in changing peoples' minds and they will get their full intersection. Motion by Trude, Seconded by Orttel, to Authorize Advertisement for Bids for Site Package #3 and Approve Plans and Specifications for the Andover-YMCA Community Center by Adopting the Attached Resolution. Motion carried unanimously. (Resolution R034-04) Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 6 PRESENTATION/ANOKA COUNTYÆCONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEGISLATION County Commissioner Dick Lang introduced Intergovernmental Relations Coordinator Lona Shreiber who made a presentation to the City Council regarding issues relative to their 2004 legislative initiative on gaining authority for economic development activities. Councilmember Jacobson asked how long the rail authority has been around. Ms. Schreiber stated she thought it was since 1977, Councilmember Jacobson stated that they are levying around 2.5 million dollars, which cannot be used for economic development, so it is going to the Northstar Corridor Project. Ms. Schreiber stated Anoka County is one of the four counties who do the levying and they pay the most because it is a population-based fonnula. She stated they pay more into this and the amount the County has been levying for the past four or five year, has been going towards all the preliminary engineering, the scoping, EIS, all those activities and if they get the green light from the Legislature the next step will be the fmal engineering and design and then they go into construction. The amount the County is levying right now will cover their share of the capital cost of that project. Councilmember Jacobson stated if they get the new authority added on so they can do Economic Development in addition to the Rail Authority and they do not increase the amount they are taking in, how are they going to have any money for economic development. Ms. Schreiber stated she did not say they would not increase, they are at twenty-two percent of their allowable levy. She stated there are not any projects they have in mind but if there was a project that came along that the County felt was worthy, they could partner with a city to determine what the cost would be and then levy that fall for that particular project. Councilmember Trude stated the issue she has heard is that it seems like all the activity is being done outside of the community and when they want to do a project in Andover, the County is doing everything that seems adverse to what they want to do in the City. She stated they have some potential development next to City Hall for the community center and the County will not let them have the curb cuts they need to get full access to Hanson. She stated they also have major shopping center complexes that are going across Hanson at various points and the County is adverse to them in everyone of those situations where they are trying to do local economic development. Now the County is asking the City to increase the taxing authority so the County can have this development happen outside of Andover and the residents want it to happen close to their homes, Ms. Schreiber stated they have HRA and Rail Authority but they do not have economic development authority. They can do some planning but they do not have legislative authority. Councilmember Orttel stated it seems because of the way they are situated without any highways that they will not be a benefactor other than in a very remote sense. The tax revenues will not come to Andover; they will go somewhere else because of the way the City is configured. He wondered how they would benefit. Councilmember Knight stated the main thrust of this is aimed at the Northstar Corridor. Ms. Schreiber stated this is not true; she stated there are two provisions they are seeking. The rail Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 7 authorities do not have transit oriented development powers by Minnesota statute, the HRA does. She stated they thought that communities that are further away from the corridor would benefit if they could Economic Development Authority as well. She stated it is out of that fund that they pay their share of the Northstar but there is and can be some excess money. They are suggesting they do not get a new levy, but they will do more with less. Councilmember Knight stated if they are given that authority and they proceed to levy, the levy would increase. Sometime in the future, they would be levied for capital costs if and when the corridor becomes a reality. Ms. Schreiber stated for the last four or five years, Anoka County has been levying two to four million for the Northstar Corridor. Councilmember Knight stated what they are trying to get at is they are not on1y looking at increasing this levy but also an increase in the levy for the Northstar Corridor which could be sizeable hunk put on taxpayers. Ms. Schreiber stated they are currently levying what their estimate is for their capital share. Their capital share will be roughly two million dollars in 2007 when the project is completed. At that time, they will share fifty-fifty with the State the last one third of the cost of operating. Their rough estimate this year is about one million dollars. In 2007, if the train was running, based on what they know now, Anoka County would have to levy three million dollars for their share of the capital and their share of the operating. Councilmember Jacobson stated this could be a fairly substantial tax increase and on top of this they are looking at a Viking's stadium. If that should happen, they are looking at another half to three quarters percent sales tax in Anoka County. When they look at all of this and the activity going on around them, what they are saying is even though the County does not have the ability to give them money at this time, the people at the County could go to the County Commissioners and state that this is economic development for Andover and they are not asking for any money basically, why not work with the City. He stated that there are things the County can do for them that would cost them little if any. CONSIDER V ARlANCE TO FRONT & SIDEYARD SETBACKS/92I-I5STH A VENUE NW Community Development Director Neumeister stated the subject property contains an older home that was constructed before the current setback requirements were adopted. The home does not meet the current front and side yard setback requirements. Councilmember Jacobson asked how the deck was constructed without a building permit. He stated he does not have a problem with approving this. Mr. Neumeister stated the applicant was not aware they needed a building permit before the deck was constructed. Councilmember Orttel asked if they were willing to say that anything that predates the Ordinance, gets by or will they put some limits on this. He stated it was non-conforrning without the deck. Mr. Neumeister stated the wording in the Resolution states "the home was constructed before the current standards of the R -I Zoning District was adopted" so that does qualify it to some extent and would Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 8 limit the number of other houses out there. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the proposed variance to the front and side yard setbacks with an addition to the Resolution that there is adequate space surrounding the home and far enough from neighboring residences to not provide a problem with them. Motion carried unanimously. (Resolution 035-04) CONSIDER REZONING/R-l TO R-4/I021 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD Community Development Director Neumeister explained the City Council is asked to review the proposed rezoning to allow the Sophie's Manor project to move forward. Councilmember Jacobson stated on the map, on the east side of the railroad tracks, there is a small sliver called Outlot A that is technically part of this property. Is the legal description such where they would just rezone the property on the west side of the tracks and leave the property on the east side what it is. Mr. Neumeister stated they can designate up to the westerly edge of the railroad right-of-way and make the legal read that way. Councilmember Orttel asked what they would do with that outlot. Mr. Neumeister stated it would have to be dealt with at the time the east parcel would be developed. Councilmember Orttel stated they will be creating a non-building outlot which they do not do. Mr. Neumeister stated it is an outlot that will exist because of the way the lot lines are sitting. There is nothing they can do other than require that the outlot be combined with the property lying east of the railroad tracks when it is developed. Councilmember Trude asked ifit would make more sense to combine this outlot with property to the east when it is ready to be developed. Mr. Neumeister stated he did not believe there was any problem with calling this an outlot because an outlot is an unbuildable parcel and must typically be combined with something else to be able to be further subdivided or it would be a larger parcel that would be further subdivided in the future. In this case, there is a sliver ofland that exists because of the way the lot exists and probably preceded the railroad coming through. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the rezoning request based on the fact that times and conditions have changed. Councilmember Jacobson stated he wanted to make sure in the Resolution; it included the property to the east side of the tracks. Councilmember Jacobson asked if this had to be subject to the Met Council. Mr. Neumeister stated it did not. Motion carried unanimously. (Ord. No. 285) Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 9 CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLATISOPHIES MANOR/I02I CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD Community Development Director Neumeister asked that this item tabled because additional information has come in and needs to be reviewed. He suggested this item be tabled until the March 1,2004 meeting. This item was tabled in the agenda approval. CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLANI13309 JAY STREET Community Development Director Neumeister stated the City Council is asked to review a sketch plan for a 4-lot residential subdivision. Councilmember Trude stated she had a question about 133'd. She wondered if the street would eventually be a route for the people in the development in Coon Rapids to go to the shopping area if a light were constructed. Mr, Erar stated he believed the negotiations between the County and Coon Rapids are on hold. He does not believe the signal light will be going forward, He thought the City of Coon Rapids and the County could not agree on things. Mr, Berkowitz stated the signal did fall through but in 200S/2006 the County will be looking at constructing the improvement to that section and at that time they will reconsider it. Mayor Gamache asked where the pond sits on the land. Mr. Berkowitz showed the pond on the map. Councilmember Knight asked how much of the lot the pond takes, Mr. Berkowitz stated the pond takes up one of the lots but there is a way to do some excavation at the back of the lots and fill in the front part and expand the pond in the back to replace the volume that would be filled. Discussion ensued in regard to travel on 133,d and access points. Mr. Ernie Rousseau explained the reason that driveways are allowed on the Coon Rapids side of the street is that the defmition of a collector street in Coon Rapids is 10,000 compared to 1,000 in Andover. He thought the on1y issue they have right now was the driveways onto 133'd and his current driveway is very unsafe the way it is now. If the development occurs as planned, his driveway will move to the other side of the property. Mr. Gary VanKarnp, 13318 Hummingbird Street NW, stated his property adjoins Mr. Rousseau's property. He showed on the map where his house is. He is worried about crowding too many houses in such a small area. He is willing to work with his neighbors to do whatever they like. He is also worried about the openness and wildlife being lost. He is concerned about where all the water will go if this land is developed. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17,2004 Page 10 Mayor Gamache asked regarding the slope, will it be sloped down to the street as well as a holding pond. Mr. Berkowitz stated there is an outlet on the pond that handles the excess water so when the pond fills up, it does outlet. He stated the front yards will be sloped towards the road and the backyards will be sloped towards the holding pond. Councilmember Knight did not understand how the end lot could be buildable if they are going to extend the hundred years, Mr. Rousseau stated he is proposing four lots but the end lot belongs to the City and will not be built on; it has the pond on it. Mayor Gamache suggested they address the main issues facing them. He stated both the cities' building and engineering departments stated they would not support a variance that would allow the project to place any driveways onto 133rd Avenue. He assumed the resident is correct that Coon Rapids looks at collector streets differently based on the amount of traffic. Mr. Berkowitz stated ten thousand ADT is like Bunker Lake Boulevard, wJúch is an A minor arterial so he would have to check to see what requirements Coon Rapids has to designate that as a collector. He thought they are more in the one thousand to two thousand ADT for a collector street. Councilmember Jacobson stated there are no sewer stubs for the lots and they would have to go to Coon Rapids to connect. He stated it is not cheap to dig out and reconfigure the pond. If driveways would be allowed to exit out onto I33rd A venue, there will be a good site distance looking to the east but not to the west because there is a curve there. The third issue is the pond and he thought it needed to be looked at further to determine how this will affect the lots. The fourth issue is the lot on Jay Street that would be created and would have to face Jay Street. They have to look at the distances involved there and how many variances would be required just to have it. He stated with the existing house, they would have to move the driveway out onto 133rd. His personal feeling is the applicant should think about this further because he thought there were a lot of problems with this. Mr. Rousseau does not see fairness with driveways not being allowed on 133rd because there are other developments where it is allowed. Mr. Neumeister read a letter from the applicant for his reasons for a hardsJúp, Mayor Gamache explained they were dealing with a difficult situation. The applicant has a strip of property that is difficult to access because the road they would need to access is I33rd Avenue. He stated he would not want the properties to access 133rd A venue because it is very dangerous and busy. The other issue is the possibility ofaroad towards the back of the lots but he does not know how that would work out. He thought it might be more like an alley. Mr. Neumeister stated he would not recommend a road behind the properties for safety reasons. Councilmember Trude agreed because the road would be right behind homes with backyards where cJúldren play. Discussion continued in regard to consistency regarding collector streets and the options that could be put in place for this applicant. Mr. Gary VanKamp stated anotherreason notto put a road beJúnd the homes is because a lot of trees would have to be removed in order to do that. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17. 2004 Page 11 Ms. Paula Liptak, 13343 Ibis Street, stated she talked to staff about the one hundred year flood rule and staff assured her the City Council would not waver from that rule. She stated the homes in their neighborhood are very nice and she does not understand why the applicant is trying to take a very young neighborhood were everyone is aware of all of the kids who do live in the neighborhood and she wondered why the applicant would want to have houses face 133rd, Councilmember Jacobson stated on the two proposed easterly lots, it seemed that those lots were lower than the road, in order to bring them up to standards, a lot of full will need to be brought in which again could be very costly. Mr. Ben Ealey stated they would need to bring in a lot of fill in order to build two more houses on the property. He stated if a pond were constructed in the back, their backyard would end up part of the pond. Because the lots are so small the homes built on them would need to be significantly less than the surrounding neighborhood and bring down the value of their homes. Trees would also need to be taken down to construct the homes. Mr. Gary VanKamp stated if the homes are built, the water has to go somewhere and he does not want the water to go into his yard and cause flooding. Mayor Gamache stated his overall concern is the water issues that will need to be addressed and the issue of accessing l33rd. He thought they may need to look at a different type of design for the land. Councilmember Knight thought the house on the comer lot will be substandard because it will be so close to the existing house and the front of the rear house will be facing the rear of the new houses and will be a very odd situation, Councilmember Trude stated when she has seen sketch plans come in that are subdivisions it is typically a house facing the street and they want to subdivide and place another house facing the street and the two houses will be parallel to each other and look somewhat alike and look like they were developed at the same time. This sketch plan does not look like any she has ever seen before, She stated that the house that is sitting there is very attractive on a very attractive large lot and to put three other houses will make this house look like the ill fit. It is going to devalue the existing property which is not like any sketch plan she has ever seen. She stated to subdivide will make the area less attractive. The road will pick up in traffic in the future when the signal light goes in. Councilmember Orttel stated the issue is if it is going to create a safety issue by going out onto 133rd Avenue. He wondered if there was a problem also with the wetlands. Mr. Tim Miller, 132nd Lane, stated his concern is saving the trees on this property. He stated the trees are blocking the homes from the roadway. CONSIDER REQUESTIRUM RIVER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLITRAIL IMPROVEMENTS Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 12 ALONG I68TH LANE NW City Engineer Berkowitz explained this item is in regard to considering a request from Judy McKay, Principal of Rum River Elementary School regarding a trail to be constructed along a short section of I 68th Lane NW west of Verdin Street NW. Councilmember Trude wondered if they posted no parking in the area, if this would solve the problem. Councilmember Jacobson agreed and thought it was more of a signage problem and they need to mark the crossing. Mayor Gamache agreed because the issue is stopping and dropping off and picking up children from school and the neighborhood may still want to have parking in front of their homes. He thought there should be a no parking/stopping sign effective during school hours. Mr. Berkowitz stated in regard to no parking, they are State Aid Roads and parking is not allowed. He stated if they do not have a connection point at the spot, they do not stripe. Councilmember Trude stated she would like more information before she can authorize this item. She stated Principal McKay may want to come to the next meeting to discuss this further. CONSIDER 2004 GRANT APPLICATION ROUND/04-6 City Engineer Berkowitz explained this item is in regard to considering DNR grant programs available for the 2004 application round. It is time to consider applying for any of the grant programs that may be available subject to funding by the 2004 Legislature. Last year an Outdoor Recreation Grant was awarded for the Coon Creek Corridor Trail west of Hanson Boulevard NW. Mr. Berkowitz stated they have completed and submitted the 2004 application for the Fishing Pier Grant Program and City staffhas also forwarded a letter to the DNR regarding the 2004 Water Resource Cooperative Acquisition and Development Program which is a grant for the Crooked Lake Boat Landing to improve the public boat access, parking lots, docks and boat launch ramps. Staff, at this point, is recommending applying for the Fishing Pier Grant Program and the 2004 Water Cooperative Acquisition and Development Program. Councilmember Jacobson stated they are looking at grants for Crooked Lake to repair the parking surface and to put out some sort of dock. His concern is if they go and apply to the State and the State gives it to them the City has to match it. They would need to fmd additional money to take care of this. It is nice to get outside money, but they have to look at if they do get it, what they would have to put into it in terms of money. If they do not have the funds, they will have to return the money. He thought they should be careful on what they apply for knowing what the parameters of the grant are so they will not be surprised at what the requirements are. Mr. Berkowitz stated the project is in the CIP for 2007 and the estimated cost is $125,000 for all Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 13 the improvements, which includes two new play sets in the park. The improvements they would apply for in the grant are for $70,000 worth of the improvements, which would include a new dock or pier, dredging, a new parking lot with new curb and gutter, He stated it is in the plans for 2007 but would be moved up to 2005 and they would be able to utilize that matching fund which would be $34,000 to $35,000, The Council recessed at 9:43 p.m. The Council reconvened at 9:48 p.rn, Councilmember Jacobson thought that when they apply for the grants they have to look carefully at what is required before they apply. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to acknowledge that the grants that will be applied for are the Fishing Pier Grant Program and the 2004 Water Resource Cooperative Acquisition and Development Program, both of which will be for the Crooked Lake Boat Landing. Motion carried unanimously. UPDATE ON 2004 CDBG FUNDING ALLOCATIONS/APPROVE NEW RESOLUTION Community Development Director Neumeister explained the County Board reviewed the Anoka County Community Development staff recommendations for the CDBG allocations. There were 55 CDBG funding requests and II were recommended for funding. The County staff recommended that Andover receive funding in the amount of $1 04,250 for the Hughs Industrial Park revolving loan fund. However, they did not recommend funding the Rental Rehabilitation Program for the duplexes on 138th A venue. Councilmember Knight thought they had an agreement with the gentleman at Hughs Park. Did they negate that agreement with him. Mr. Neumeister stated it was his understanding that at the last EDA meeting they talked about tax increment fmancing, which he was interested in; however, the block grant funding was something he was not interested in because you have to prove that the jobs you are providing are actually hiring low and medium income and he was indicating in discussions that this was not something he would be doing. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to approve the Resolution with the appropriate changes. (Resolution R036-04) Councilmember Trude stated she pulled the information from last year and all the money went to rental housing and economic development and they asked the County when they will get their share and they stated they try to even it out over time. Motion carried unanimously, Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 14 DISCUSS NEW STANDARD STREET SECTION City Engineer Berkowitz explained the City staff is requesting the City Council discuss and approve increasing the standard pavement section used for streets constructed in new urban and rural developments. Councilmember Trude asked if they have looked at the cost implications. Mr. Berkowitz stated it would increase the assessments $800 to $1,000 per lot. Councilmember Trude stated for the additional assessment they would have twenty-five years more street life. Mr. Berkowitz stated that was correct. Mr. Berkowitz showed picture of streets and curbs settling and discussed maintenance that would need to be done. Councilmember Trude asked if they have to go to this extent. She stated she looked at other cities and no other city is building to this standard. Discussion ensued in regard to what other cities are doing and the reasons why they need to change the standard. Councilmember Trude stated they are adding to the bituminous as well. Mr. Berkowitz stated a lot of communities have gone from a five ton to a seven-ton design. Discussion ensued in regard to the expense this would impose on the developers and residents. Commissioner Jacobson stated he needed more information before he approved this. AM YOR/COUNCIL INPUT (Skateboard Park) - Councilmember Trude stated she has had some people contactherregarding the skateboard park and comments that were made at the Park Commission meeting. She stated the end of year report stated all of the problems were worked out and there were not any issues or complaints. The issue now is where they are going to put the skateboard park. She thought they could put a request in the newsletter on where the equipment could be put. She felt bad that the kids helped raise money for this and now there is not a place to put it. Mr. Erar stated they could look at additional locations and bring the information back to the Council. He stated they are looking at relocating the rink to Prairie Knoll Park. Councilmember Knight stated it would be nice if it were placed in the general area so people would not need to drive to it. (Workshop-Community Center Issues) - Councilmember Jacobson stated they have a workshop scheduled for next Tuesday and in their packets they received a letterftom the YMCA and as he read Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - February 17, 2004 Page 15 that he had some very grave concerns about some of the things that were in there. He thought they needed to, as a group, discuss some of the issues that were in the letter and what their response will be. He thought they should do this right away. His suggestion would be to move the meeting to another night so all Councilmembers could be at the meeting. He would like to meet on Monday night, February 23rd, if possible. He thought the letter from the YMCA was quite substantial and should be on its own agenda. Councilmember Orttel asked if Wednesday would be good because he had an issue with Monday. Councilmember Knight stated he would not be available after Monday. The Council discussed scheduling a special workshop to discuss YMCA matters. Council decision was to meet on Friday February 20, 2004 at 4:00 p.m. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 10:31 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary