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C I T Y o F
NDOVE
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US
Regular City Council Meeting - Tuesday, January 6, 2004
Call to Order - 7:00 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Plaque Presentations! Acknowledge Service
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
1. Approval of Minutes (12/01/03 Special; Regular 12/02!03; 12/11/03 Special; 12/15/03 Special; 12/16/03
Regular)
Consent Items
2. Approve Payment of Claims - Finance
3, Approve Raffle Perrnit/Minnesota Deer Hunters Assoc. - Clerk
4. Approve AddendumlTimeSaver Secretarial Contract - Clerk
5. Approve 3.2% Malt Liquor On-Sale Liquor License/Tasty Pizza - Clerk
6. Approve 2004 Tri-City GIS Contract - Engineering
7. Approve Joint Powers Agreement/Order Improvement/Order Plans & Specsl04-4/Joint 2004 Seal Coating
Program - Engineering
8. Approve Change Order #1/99-8A1Well #8 Pumping System - Engineering
9. Approve Joint Powers Agreement/99-14/Round Lake Boulevard NW - Engineering
10. Approve Resolution/Allocating Off System Expenditure of City MSA Funds onto County System/99-
14/Round Lake Boulevard NW - Engineering
11. Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/03-38/14545 Round Lake Boulevard NW/SS -
Engineering
12. Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/03-37/Donohue Creekside Addition - Engineering
13. Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/Order Plans & Specsl03-35/Bunker Lake Village -
Engineering
14. Approve Change Order #2 (Compensating)/O 1-30/Prairie Road Reconstruction - Engineering
15. Authorize Update of Local Water Resource Management Plan RFP/03-42 - Engineering
16. Approve Application and Resolution for CDBG Funds in 2004 - Planning
Orl!anizational Items
17. Approve Official Depositiories & Banks - Finance
18. Designate Official Newspaper - Clerk
19. Appoint Acting Mayor - Clerk
20, Appoint Standing Committees - Clerk
Discussion Items
21. Public Hearing/Issuance of Capital Improvement Bonds - Finance
22. Consider Rezoning/R-I to R-4/1374 - 161" Avenue NW -Planning
23, Consider Preliminary Plat/Oakview Park/I 374 - 161" Avenue NW - Planning
24, Consider Compo Plan AmendmentlExtend MUSA Boundary/W oodland 6th Addition - Planning
25. Consider Residential Sketch PlanIWoodland 6th Addition - Planning
Staff Item
26. Schedule January City Council Workshop - Administration
Mayor/Council Input
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - JANUARY 6,2004
TABLE OF CONTENTS
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE................................,............................,.............,.........................1
PLAQUE PRESENT A nON ...............................,..............................,...............,.......................1
RESIDENT FORUM................................................................................................,..............." I
AGENDA APPROV AL ........,.......................................................................................,..........,.2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.........................,..,..................................................................,.......2
CONSENT ITEMS
Approve Payment of Claims ..........................................................................,......................3
Approve Raffle Permit/Minnesota Deer Hunters Association .............................................3
Approve AddendumlTimesaver Secretarial Contract ............................. ..............................3
Approve 3.2% Malt Liquor Sale Liquor LicensefTasty Pizza ..............................................3
Approve 2004 Tri-City GIS Contract ...................................................................................3
Resolution ROOI-04 approving Joint Powers Agreement/Order Improvement/Order
Plans & Specs/04-4/Joint 2004 Seal Coating Program....................................................3
Resolution R002-04 approving Change Order #1/99-8A1Well #8 Pumping System ..........3
Approve Joint Powers Agreement/99-l4/Round Lake Boulevard NW................................3
Resolution R003-04 approving Resolution/Allocating Off System Expenditure of City
MSA Funds onto County Systern/99-14/Round Lake Boulevard NW ............................3
Resolution R004-04 accepting Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/03-38/I4545
Round Lake Boulevard NW/SS..................................................................,....................3
Resolution ROOS-04 accepting Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/03-37/
Donohue Creekside Addition ..........................................................................................3
Resolution R006-04 accepting Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/Order Plans &
Specs/03-35/Bunker Lake Village ..............................................,.................."................3
Resolution R007-04 approving Change Order #2 (Compensating)/OI-30/Prairie Road
Reconstruction...................................................................................... ...........................3
Authorize Update of Local Water Resource Management Plan RFP/03-42 ........................4
Resolution R008-04 approving Application and Resolution for CDBG Funds in 2004......4
APPROVE OFFICIAL DEPOSITORIES AND BANKS
Approve Resolution R009-04 ................................................................................................4
DESIGNATE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER
Motion to Designate ..............................................................................................................4
APPOINT ACTING MAYOR
Motion to Appoint .................................................................................................................4
APPOINT STANDING COMMITTEES
Motion to Appoint .....................,...............................,...........................................................5
PUBLIC HEARING/ISSUANCE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS
Motion to open public hearing.......................................................,.......................................5
Motion to close public hearing ......................................................,.........,.............................5
Motion to approve Resolution ROIO-04 ................................................................................6
Motion to approve Resolution ROII-04 ..................................,.....................,................,......6
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Table of Contents
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CONSIDER REZONING R-I TOR-4/1374-l6lsT AVENUENW
Motion to approve (Ordinance 280)..,.........,.............,...,....................................................,.6
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT/OAKVIEW PARKI1374 -161 ST AVENUE NW
Motion to approve Resolution ............................................................................................... 7
Motion to amend Previous Motion Resolution R012-04 ......................................................8
CONSIDER COMPo PLAN AMENDMENT/EXTEND MUSA BOUNDARY/
WOODLAND 6TH ADDITION
Motion to approve Resolution R013-04 ................................................................................9
CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN/WOODLAND 6TH ADDITION ......................11
SCHEDULE JANUARY CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP........................................................ 12
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Grey Oaks ..............................................................................................................................12
Temporary School Rooms .....................................................................................................13
Retain Attorney for Waste Disposal Suite .............................................................................13
ADJOURNMENT ......................................................................................................................13
C I T Y o F
NDOVE
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755·5100
FAX (763) 755·8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JANUARY 6,2004
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache, January 6, 2004, 7:03 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, Barry Sullivan
City Engineer, Dave Berkowitz
City Finance Director, Jim DicIånson
Community Development Director, Will Neumeister
City Administrator, John Erar
Others
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
PLAQUE PRESENTATIONs/ACKNOWLEDGE SERVICE
Mayor Gamache presented a plaque to Mr. Al Grabowski for his dedication as a Park and
Recreation Commissioner.
Mr. Grabowski gave a history of what has been done in the City regarding the parks system.
Mr. Grabowski stated Sunshine Park was a work of perseverance and hard work. He never
thought Prairie Knoll Park would happen.
He thanked all the volunteers and City staff for all the work and help they have done on the
parks.
Mr. Grabowski thanked everyone he has worked with over the years. He also thanked the City
Council.
RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the City Council.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 6, 2004
Page 2
AGENDA APPRO V AL
There were no changes to the agenda except for supplemental information to Item 21.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Agenda as amended. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 1, 2003, Special Meeting: Correct as written.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to approve the December 1,2003 Special Meeting minutes
as written. Motion carried 4 ayes, I present (Trude).
December 2, 2003, Regular Meeting: Correct as amended.
Councilmember Trude stated on page 16, there was a statement made during the Mayor Council
input that she was concerned about garbage enclosures being located next to residential property and
in the minutes it shows that it is behind the residential property and she would like this reflected
correctly.
Motion by Trude, seconded by Knight to approve the December 2,2003 Regular Meeting minutes as
amended. Motion carried unanimously.
December II, 2003, Special Meeting: Correct as amended.
Councilmember Trude stated throughout, the road north of here was I 54th and not l57th.
Councilmember Trude stated on page three, the very top sentence should be written "Mr. Doug
Fischer stated everyone is complaining the turn lanes are too short in the area. Their minimum
standards are three hundred foot left turn lane..."
Councilmember Trude stated on page four, the second paragraph, the sentence should read
"Radisson Road in Blaine has traffic lights near the freeway. one thousand feet apart almost e'/ery
!umdreà feet.. . "
Councilmember Trude stated on page five, in the middle of the page, Mr. Fischer explained they may
have to look at major reconstruction on the roadways because of all the issues they were bringing up
and they may have to rewrite their recommendation for a major reconstruction. It states on Hanson
and at that point he was suggesting Crosstown needed it or '\_ the) only talking abotlt II".uoull.
The Council agreed. ().XY\.Q.(\..(l~Á \_d0-DL\
Councilmember Trude stated on page six, the last paragraph, first sentence "Councilmember
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Page 3
Jacobson asked if they had an off-site policy in writing. Mr. Fischer stated the City staffwas given a
copy earlier that dav."
Motion by Trude, seconded by Knight to approve the December 11,2003 Special Meeting minutes
as amended. Motion carried unanimously.
December 15, 2003, Special Meeting: Correct as written.
Motion by Trude, seconded by Knight to approve the December 15,2003 Special Meeting minutes
as written. Motion carried 4 ayes, 1 present (Orttel).
December 16,2003, Regular Meeting: Correct as amended.
Councilmember Trude stated on page 6, the motion should state it was to adopt the amended
Resolution. She stated there was quite a bit of discussion in the minutes and they amended the
discussion of the reference to the Association covenants and some other things.
Councilmember Trude stated on page 16, the name was incorrect and should be Hughes Industrial
Park.
Motion by Trude, seconded by Knight to approve the December 16,2003 Regular Meeting as
amended. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 2 Approval of Claims
Item 3 Approve Raffie Perrnit/Minnesota Deer Hunters Association
Item 4 Approve Addendum/Timesaver Secretarial Contract
Item 5 Approve 3.2% Malt Liquor Sale Liquor License/Tasty Pizza
Item 6 Approve 2004 Tri-City GIS Contract
Item 7 Approve Joint Powers Agreement/Order Improvement/Order Plans & Specsl04-
4/Joint 2004 Seal Coating Program (See Resolution ROOI-04)
Item 8 Approve Change Order # 1/99-8AIW ell #8 Pumping System (See Resolution R002-
04)
Item 9 Approve Joint Powers Agreement/99-I4/Round Lake Boulevard NW
Item 10 Approve Resolution! Allocating Off System Expenditure of City MSA Funds onto
County System/99-I4/Round Lake Boulevard NW (See Resolution R003-04)
Item II Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/03-38/l4545 Round Lake
Boulevard NW/SS (See Resolution R004-04)
Item 12 Accept Feasibility ReportlWaive Public Hearingl03- 37 !Donohue Creekside Addition
(See Resolution R005-04)
Item 13 Accept Feasibility Report/Waive Public Hearing/Order Plans & Specsl03-35/Bunker
Lake Village (See Resolution R006-04)
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Item 14 Approve Change Order #2 (Compensating)/O 1- 30IPrairie Road Reconstruction (See
Resolution R007-04)
Item 15 Authorize Update of Local Water Resource Management Plan RFP/03-42
Item 16 Approve Application and Resolution for CDBG Funds in 2004 (See Resolution
R008-04)
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVE OFFICIAL DEPOSITORIES AND BANKS
Finance Director Dickinson explained each year the City Council is required by state law to approve
a resolution designating the City's ofiicial depositories, supplemental depositories or investments
and designating an individual as the approval authority for collateral transactions.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Ortte1, to approve the attached resolution that designates
depositories for City funds and designates the Finance Director of the City of Andover as the
approval authority for the release and acceptance of all collateral to be held by the City in
conjunction with City funds on deposit with authorized institutions. Motion carried unanimously.
(Res. R009-04)
DESIGNATE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER
City Administrator Erar explained each year the City Council must designate the ofiicial newspaper
where publication of official notices is made.
The Anoka County Union has submitted their proposal to serve as the city's legal newspaper for
2004. The legal publication rate will be $8.75 per column inch. Electronically transferred legal will
be $8.25 per column inch.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to designate the Anoka County Union as the official
newspaper for the city for 2004. Motion carried IIn~nimously.
APPOINT ACTING MAYOR
City Administrator Erar explained the Mayor is required to appoint an Acting Mayor in the event he
is unable to attend a Council meeting. Councilmember Ortte1 is the present Acting Mayor.
Motion by Gamache, Seconded by Trude, to appoint Councilmember Orttel as the Acting Mayor for
2004.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 6, 2004
Page 5
Councilmember Jacobson stated he was not sure if the Mayor could be the presenter of the motion.
Councilmember Trude thought this was done that way each year. Councilmember Jacobson stated
he did not have an issue with the result but he thought this was a technical issue.
Motion by Trude, seconded by Jacobson, to appoint Councilmember Orttel as the Acting Mayor for
2004, Motion carried unanimously.
APPOINT STANDING COMMITTEES
City Administrator Erar explained each year Standing Committees are appointed based upon the
recommendation of the Mayor.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to appoint Councilmembcrs Knight and Orttel to the
Public Works Committee, Councilmember Knight as Chair and Councilmember Jacobson and
Councilmember Trude, to the Newsletter Committee, Councilmember Trude as Chair for 2004.
Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC llEARINGffSSUANCE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BONDS
Finance Director Dickinson explained the City Council scheduled a Public Hearing for the issuance
of Capital Improvement Bonds to finance capital improvements related to a new fue station and
refinance existing obligations related to the Public Works Facility at the December 16,2003 City
Council meeting.
Mr. Dickinson explained the City of Andover is authorized to issue bonds to fmance certain capital
improvements once a five-year capital improvement plan is adopted. The issuance of General
Obligation Bonds to refinance the Public Works Facility would yield long-term debt service savings
of approximately $118,000 and General Obligation bonds will be the most economical fmancing
method for the new fue station.
Councilmember Jacobson stated they are issuing two types of bonds and asked what the hearing is
for. Mr. Dickinson stated it was for both bonds.
Motion by Trude, seconded by Jacobson, to open the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
No one wished to address the City Council.
Motion by Knight, seconded by Trude, to close the public hearing at 7:26 p.m.
Mr. Dickinson stated the City Council is requested to call for the sale of $3,895,000 General
Obligation Capital Improvement Plan Bonds, Series 2004A to provide financing for the construction
of a new fire station and to advance refund the outstanding maturities of the EDA's $2,350,000
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Page 6
Public Project Revenue Bonds, Series 1997 (public works facility) as a general obligation bond. The
City Council is also requested to call for the sale of$4,335,000 General Obligation Tax Increment
Refunding Bonds, Series 2004B to refund outstanding maturities of the $6,055,000 General
Obligation Tax Increment Bonds, Series I995D.
Mr. Dickinson stated the issuance of bonds will provide funding for public improvement projects
and provide significant interest expense savings to the General & TIF funds.
Motion by Orttel, seconded by Knight, to approve the attached resolution providing for the sale of
$3,895,000 General Obligation Capital Improvement Plan Bonds. Motion carried unanimously.
(Res. ROIO-04)
Motion by Orttel, seconded by Knight, to approve the attached resolution providing for the sale of
$4,335,000 General Obligation Tax Increment Refunding Bonds. Series 20048. Motion carried
unanimously. (Res, ROII-04)
Councilmember Jacobson stated this is on1y a call for bonds and they will be picking this up and
awarding in February. Mr. Dickinson stated the bond sale will take place at the second meeting in
February.
CONSIDER REZONING R-I TO R-4/1374 _I61sT AVENUE NW
Community Development Director Neumeister stated the Council is asked to review the proposed
rezoning to allow the Oakview Park project to move forward. The rezoning is proposed for only the
south 13 acres of the property that will be developed at this time. The residual parcel with the
existing house would remain Single Family Rural Residential (R-I).
Mr. Neumeister stated there are two additional conditions of approval that need to be added to the
Resolution. The fust is"Dedication of a trail easement between Avocet and Drake Streets, between
lots 11 & 12 and outlots A & B."
Mr. Neumeister stated the second condition that needs to be added is "Dedication of a temporary
roadway easement for a turnaround at the end of the cul-de-sac on the south end of the
development." This would be vacated once the permanent cul-de-sac would be built.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to approve the rezoning request based on the fact that
times and conditions have changed. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT/OAKVIEW PARKI1374 _161sT A VENUE NW
Community Development Director Neumeister stated the City Council is asked to review a
preliminary plat for the subject property.
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Councilmember Trude stated Mr, Neumeister commented about the County saying the project should
improve turn lanes that are a half mile away from the project and there are not even two dozen
homes. How can they say there is a direct benefit to these homes. It is hard to prove that strong of a
benefit. Mr. Berkowitz stated they are responding to the County Highway's requirements when it
comes to new development and they are staying consistent with the recommendations from the
County and moving those forward to the Council for a decision. Councilmember Trude asked if staff
requested the turn lanes be constructed. Mr. Berkowitz stated they did.
The developer, Mr. Quigley, stated he felt it is unfair to require turn lanes and by-pass lanes on two
County roads. Councilmember Trude did not support imposing this on the development and she felt
there should be an overall assessment policy so those who benefit are taxed. Mr. Quigley stated
there have been at least two hundred homes that have been developed in this area without needing to
provide road improvements and he thought it was unfair.
Councilmember Orttel stated he tried to read the plan the County provided that justified their policy.
It seems there are two or three different criteria that had to be met. He did not think the thirty and
under required construction, it was more for striping. Mr. Berkowitz stated there was a threshold on
the number of lots but in this case, they were responding to what the County required for this
particular plat. He stated the County does not have any jurisdiction to require the improvements
because they do not require a permit.
Councilmember Knight asked if this would pass the benefit test if they were to extend it out. City
Attorney Sullivan stated dedications are not assessments. He stated it sounded like some type of plat
requirement or road construction requirement as a condition of plat approval and different than a
special assessment.
Councilmember Trude asked how they can require stuff that does not touch the project. Mr. Erar
stated there are a number of cities that do area benefit charges. This is a requirement the County is
imposing based on the traffic study.
Mayor Gamache stated Mr, Berkowitz mentioned it was the County's recommendation but because
the development does not touch any of their roads, they will not require a permit. Mr. Berkowitz
stated that was correct.
Mayor Gamache stated the problem in this case is they are talking about a very small development
compared to the rest of the development already in there and it is hard to justify the fact that the one
small piece will be producing the traffic.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to approve the proposed plat with the following change,
the fIrst page of the resolution, under item two, delete the words "The Anoka County Highway
Department" and on item number eight, delete entirely and add the two conditions recommended by
the City staff verbally subject to the conditions of the attached resolution.
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Page 8
Councilmember Knight asked what the County's reaction to this will be, Mr. Berkowitz stated the
County does not have any jurisdiction on this and the plat can move forward without the permit.
Councilmember Jacobson stated on the fmal plat, he would like to have the outlots nailed down and
see something in writing for them.
Mr. Quigley stated relative to the recommendation of the construction of the trail he would like to
see some consideration given for cost sharing of the trail because the houses to the south also have
access to the park. Mr. Berkowitz stated they looked at the trail as part ofthat development and it is
not part of the regional trail system. He stated this is similar to Woodland Estates Fourth Addition
and the developer did pick up one hundred percent of the cost. Councilmember Trude staled this
trail would not benefit the people who live in the houses; it is to benefit the homes south ofthe park.
She thought comparing trails to sidewalks was not a fair comparison.
Mayor Gamache stated the problem is when they moved the park from the south to the middle of the
development. He thought that having the Council and Park Commission request having the park
moved they could take into conSideration this trail because it does not serve the development; it
benefits developments beyond this one. He would not be opposed to having the City share in the
cost of the trails. Mr. Berkowitz stated some of the other trails they fund are regional trails and run
along collector strcets
Discussion ensued in regard to sharing the cost of a trail system with the developer.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Knight, to amend the pr~viou~ motion to include "the cost of
building the trail, the money from that would come from the ~glhat was donated in cash for the
park dedication fee and if the cash is not enough to build the trail, the developer would continue to
build it with his own resources" and to amend item nine of the resolution adding language "for any
amount beyond the park dedication funds." (Res. ROI2-04) OJ1ì..£.ndtiL h'.D- 0'-\
Councilmember Orttel stated he is having some problems with what they have discussed regarding
the road improvements. The biggest problem they have is their lack of transportation on the county
roads and the on1y way they have of getting money for this is during the development process. He
stated they have already waived several hundred thousand dollars on this in the last few months. The
county is not going to do this for them and they can never come back and assess for a county project.
He does not think it is fair that the last one in should pay for the entire improvement. Without a
policy they are not getting any money for this and residents are complaining and sooner or later they
will realize that they have to start planning things out with the county and they cannot continually
offend them. He stated there has to be a way to sit down without a dedication being considered an
impact fee.
CounciImember Trude stated one of the jobs they have in the City is to treat everyone fair and the
policy that is asked to be implemented is not fair. If they are going to talk about policy, they have to
talk about a fair way to do it.
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Page 9
The Council discussed the transportation system and what needed to be done.
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER COMPo PLAN AMENDMENTÆXTEND MUSA BOUNDARY/wOODLAND
6ffi ADDITION
Community Development Director Neumeister stated the applicant is requesting a
Comprehensive Plan Amendment to extend the Municipal Urban Service Boundary (MUSA) to
include a 40 acre parcel to the west of Nightingale Estates Third Addition. The applicalion
includes a request to remove this property from the Rural Reserve and place it in the current
(2000-2005) stage of sewer expansion. Additionally a forty acre parcel to the west of Woodland
Estates would be removed from the MUS A and placed into the Rural Reserve to replace the
acreage proposed to be removed from the Rural Reserve.
Mr. Dan Johnson, Nightingale Estates, stated after carefully considering the pros and cons of the
land swap, he has come to the conclusion that there are on1y two pros; one landowner can sell his
forty acres now and you have one developer that can develop the land this summer. He stated on
the other hand, there are a number of cons. The major one is the lack of good roads and increases
in traffic. The County does not have plans for any upgrades. Traffic now backs up on
Nightingale at Crosstown in the mornings before school. With that is a slow down on Crosstown
past the school. The travel time has increased considerably. He wondered about the homes with
driveways on 1 52nd regarding the traffic in the morning. The new development will have ninety
homes in a cul-de-sac for five years or greater. He wondered what they will do about the
blowing dirt. In conclusion, the risks are too great to approve the land swap. He asked the
Council to think about this before they make their decision. .
Councilmember Jacobson asked if ninety homes qualifY for an EIS. Mr. Neumeister stated it did
not qualifY for an EA W; it takes approximately four hundred fifty homes to qualify for an EA W
to be required.
Councilmember Orttel asked if they approved the swap, would both properties remain in the
MUSA. Mr. Neumeister stated they would request the one property be put in the MUSA and the
other would be removed.
Council discussion ensued in regard to what would happen to the properties if they approved a
land swap.
Councilmember Knight stated his greatest concern is all of the increased traffic to the
neighborhood by the construction vehicles. He asked if they could think of another way to get
the equipment in and out of the development other than using I 52nd because it is not fair to the
people in the development. Mr. Westlund stated he talked to the Slyzuk family and there is an
agricultural access road north of Woodland Estates Fourth Addition and they are willing to put
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gravel on this to make it fIrmer and they are willing to put gravel to the south for another access.
Councilmember Trude asked how they would resolve the Park Commission's recommendation.
She asked if they would keep the land for residential development when adjacent land comes out
of ago preserve. Mr. Westlund stated the proposed park is within the forty and would become
ponding and be part of the lots on the south side of 1 52nd.
Councilmember Knight asked if they would use the access road for construction equipment on1y.
Mr. Westlund stated they could try. Mr. Berkowitz stated they could make this a requirement of
the construction. Mr. Neumeister stated he would not recommend using this access road for
equipment access because the road is too close to backyard lot lines.
Mr. Dan Johnson stated he had a comment regarding the traffic flow. He lives on 1 54th and when
they were doing the street work and gravel work for putting the base in on 152nd, he called the
City to ask them to route the trucks down I52nd because I54th is a narrow street and it is 55 mph
speed limit. The road is fairly thinned base. He called twice and trucks still went down their
street. He did not know how they will control the construction traffic. He suggested they do this
development in five years when the traffic and roads improve.
Motion by Ortte!, seconded by Trude, to approve the proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendmcnt
allowing expansion of the MUSA boundary and adjustment of the sewer staging plan as
requested. (Res. R013-04)
Councilmember Jacobson stated he is going to vote no on this issue because he does not think it
is a wise thing to do without looking at the entire parcel and doing some master planning.
Councilmember Knight stated he wants to feel comfortable that every effort is made to keep
I52nd as livable as possible. Mr. Westlund, Woodland Development stated he has worked on this
in the past and deliveries come at off peak hours and would not interfere with traffic.
Motion carried 4 ayes, 1 nay (Jacobson). Motion carried.
CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PlAN/WOODLAND 6lli ADDITION
Community Development Director Neumeister explained the Council is asked to review a sketch
plan for a single family urban residential development.
Councilmember Orttel stated he noticed the sketch plan takes into a large area they ghost platted.
He wondered how much thought was put into this. Mr. Westlund stated they have had a wetland
delineator look at this, soil engineers look at this and probes were done every two hundred feet
through 680 acres. The ghost platting was looked at thoroughly.
Councilmember Trude asked what they should do regarding a big park going in. Mr. Westlund
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stated he has talked with the owners in the area and discussed contributing 600 hundred acres
towards a future park.
Councilmember Knight asked if there was a plan for drainage in the area. Mr. Neumeister stated
at this point, there are a lot offarm ditches for drainage. Mr. Berkowitz stated they meet all the
criteria for this development and they will look at the possibility of eliminating the ditch system
in the future.
Councilmember.Trude asked if there' would be a good way to shield existing homes fTom the dirt.
Mr. Westlund stated they have a plan to grade part of the development at a time and start to
build closest to exisIing homes first to mobilize the dirt.
Councilmember Jacobson stated on the western side of the plat, they have a shaded area
designated as ponding and he wondered if they are going to keep this on their plat or will it
extend over to the west. Mr. Westlund stated it will stay on their plat entirely.
Councilmember Jacobson stated I52Dd is a standard City Street with an additional width for a
proposed trail. He asked if the road is wide enough to handJe the additional proposed traffic or
should they take additional right of way with greater setbacks because it will be the major
roadway through there. Mr. Berkowitz stated the existing roadway is thirty-five feet back to
back. Similar roadways with projected traffic are about thirty-eight feet wide.
Councilmember Trude had noticed in neighboring communities they have berming or trees along
the roadway instead of fences which creates a parkway effect and make a more attractive route
and enhance the homes along there. Mr. Neumeister stated that during the preliminary plat
review they can look at berming but it cannot block visibility either,
Councilmember Jacobson stated they have an east/west trail shown on the preliminary plat.
Should they be looking also at a north/south trail within the plat. Mr. Westlund stated he could
work with staff on this. Mr. Neumeister stated in the preliminary review they had that question.
He stated normally they put the trail along a collector road and depending on the road, they will
not ask for an additional trail or sidewalk. Councilmember Jacobson asked if the trail should be
off the roadway also. Mr. Neumeister stated they would look at alternatives.
Mr. Johnson requested the City not allow the developer to haul in belly dump trucks or fill into
the Sixth Addition. He does not want to see any belly dump trucks brought into the site. The
Council did not recall Mr. Westlund making that promise.
Mr. Johnson stated he would like to see the entire Rural Reserve developed faster so they can get
more roads in and the traffic dispersed faster with more roads. Mayor Gamache stated it would
depend on the property owners.
Mr. Johnson wondered if they could start collecting funds from this development for County road
improvements.
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Mr. Berkowitz stated they will see gravel trucks coming in which is typical for street
construction. Mr. Erar stated he was not sure they could hold the developer from the types of
equipment he may need for development.
SCHEDULE JANUARY CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
City Administrator Erar explained the City Council is requested to schedule a Council workshop
to discuss a number of City business items. Consistent with approved Council policy, this
meeting is scheduled for the last Tuesday ofthe month.
Mayor Gamache stated they will add the issue of a policy to the agenda.
Jacobson asked if they could discuss the idea of cul-de-sac lengths and the policy.
Councilmember Trude stated another one that came to mind was the review process for
commercial applications or the portables going behind school and other structures in the
community and make sure the reviews come to a point where they have Council and Planning
Commission input.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Knight, to schedule a City Council workshop for Tuesday,
January 27,2004 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
MA YOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Grey Oaks) - Councilmember Knight stated Grey Oaks is selling. He wondered if the city is
monitoring the agreement. Mr. Erar stated they have not closely followed who they are selling to and
they have no reason to doubt it. He could check to see what the requirements are and how they could
monitor it.
(Temporary School Rooms) - Councilmember Jacobson wondered if they could discuss the
temporary classrooms at the next Council meeting. Mr. Erar stated they could add this onto the next
Council meeting if all members agree to it.
(Retain Attorney for Waste Disposal Suite) - Mr. Dickinson stated he is seeking authorization from
the Council regarding the Waste Disposal Engineering landfill. He stated the State of Minnesota
through the Minnesota Environment Response Liability Act is pursuing some cost recovery through
the insurance companies that had insured the WDE site and hazardous waste that went to that site.
The City of Andover has been named as a third party defendant along with two other cities and they
are looking at retaining the same individual to respond to the summons received.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Knight, to retain the same Attorney with two other cities. Motion
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carried unanimously.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary