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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC March 6, 2000 CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 6, 2000 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jack McKelvey, March 6, 2000, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Julie Johnson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel Councilmembers absent: None Also present: City Attorney, Barry Sullivan (arrived at 9:04 p.m.) Fire Chief, Dan Winkel City Engineer, Scott Erickson City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg City Administrator, Richard Fursman Others RESIDENT FORUM Charlie Veiman. 13646 Crooked r ,ake Boulevard - noted the Main Street bridge over Highway 10 wi!! be closing. Mr. Erickson stated the road wi!! be kept open for one lane of traffic through the construction while working on the other half. Mr. Veiman stated the bridge over Coon Creek on Coon Creek Drive will also be closed, which will force traffic onto Crooked Lake Boulevard up to Bunker Lake Boulevard. He stated a traffic signal is needed at that intersection. Lori Krayholz . 1806 Andover Boulevard - has lived there 41 years and felt their little community is being treated very unfairly. They have had sewer and water go through which didn't benefit them. The line through their back yards does not benefit them either. Now the City wants to rezone for more buildings, This will create a large problem with water drainage. She had pictures of the water problem now along the trunk sewer line. The Council agreed to discuss this item further under Item 1 of the Agenda. AGENDA APPROVAL Remove Item 25 from the Consent Agenda for discussion. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Agenda as amended. Motion carried unanimously. I Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 2 CONSENT AGENDA Item 16 Accept Request to Table Sketch Plan Review/Harstad Townhome Development/Harstad Companies Item 17 Approve Amended Special Use PermitlUse of Banners, Decor & Signs/I 3 727 Hanson Boulevard/SuperAmerica (Resolution R041-00) Item 18 Approve Lot Split/Variance/Lot 1, Block 2, Andover Station/City of Andover (Resolution R042-00) Item 19 Approve Lot Split/V ariance/Lot 2, Block 2, Andover Station/City of Andover (Resolution R043-00) Item 20 Approve Lot Split/17674 Flintwood Street NW/Del Hassan (Resolution R044-00) Item 21 Repeal Ordinance No. 220, Excavations in the Right of Way Item 22 Approve Office 2000 Upgrade and Network Hardware Purchases Item 23 Approve Financial System-AS/400 Hardware and Operating Software- Upgrade Item 24 Approve Associate Member Participation AgreementlMC1T Item 26 Accept Revised Feasibility Report/IP98-1 I/Jay Street NW (Resolution R045- 00) Item 27 Award Bid/IP94-30B & C/City Hall Parking Lot Construction and Lighting (Resolution R046-00) Item 28 Approve Plans and Specs/IP99-18/Shadowbrook 6th Addition (Resolution R047-00) Item 29 Extend Bid Award Date/IP98-20/Grey Oaks (Phase 1) (Resolution R048-00) Item 30 Order Supplemental Feasibility Report/IP98-29/Grey Oaks (Phase I & II) (Resolution R049-00) Item 31 Approve Revised ResolutionlIP97-45 (00-14)/Right-of-Way Management Costs (Resolution R050-00) Item 32 Approve Plans and Specs/IP99-28/Navajo Street, 173rd Avenue, 175th Avenue (Resolution R060-00) Item 33 Update ofMPCA NPDES (Phase II) Requirements Motion by Knight, Seconded by Johnson, approval of the Consent Agenda. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Present (Jacobson because ofItem 31) vote. APPROVAL OF MINUTES February 1, 2000, HRA Meeting: Correct as written. February 7, 2000, Special City Council: Correct as wTÍtten. February 8, 2000, Special City Council: Correct as written. February 10,2000, Special City Council: Correct as \\TiUen. February 11, 2000, Special City Council: Correct as written. I Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 3 (Approval of Minutes. Continued) February 15. 2000. Regular City Council: Correct as written. February 15, 2000, Special Closed City Council: Correct as written. February 15, 2000, HRA Meeting; Correct as written. February 17, 2000, Special City Council: Page 3, Motion on the bottom of the page, second line, change "school site #2" to "school site #1 ". Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of the Minutes of February 1,7,8 and 11. Motion carried unanimously. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Minutes of February 10. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Present (Ortlel) vote. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Johnson, approval of the three Minutes of February 15 meeting. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Present (Johnson) vote. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, the February 17 Special City Council meeting Minutes with the correction on page 3. Motion carried unanimously. PLAQUE PRESENTATION Mayor McKelvey presented a plaque to Dave Blackstad in recognition of his years of service on the Andover Park and Recreation Commission. Al Grabowski, Park and Recreation Commissioner, also presented a plaque of appreciation to Mr. Blackstad on behalf of the Park and Recreation Commission. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS/VARIOUS PROPERTIES/CITY OF ANDOVER Mr. Carlberg reviewed the Planning and Zoning Commission's recommendation to deny the proposed amendments to the Comprehensive Land Use Plan to re-designate the Sonsteby/Arkla properties in the southwest area of the City to RM-2. Councilmember Jacobson suggested the property proposed to be developed by Harstad Companies be tabled rather than denied, as he understood the delay is so the developer can talk about the development with the neighbors. rfthe land use amendment is denied now, they will have to begin the process again when they come in to develop. Mr. Carlberg explained this amendment was initiated by the City, so the developer does have the right to petition for the rezoning again. Normally the Comprehensive Plan Amendment and rezoning go together. .. - Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 4 (Comprehensive Plan Amendments/Various Properties/City of Andover, Continued) Councilmember Orttel was concerned with approving any density zoning changes under the current ordinance because as written, the City has no control once the zoning is changed. Without a contract, the developer can do something other than what is presented to the City which may not be desirable. The real issue will be getting sewer to those properties. If it cannot come through Anoka, the expense of bringing the line to this area may force high density housing to pay for it. That is something the neighboring residents of Anoka may want to discuss with their officials. Mayor McKelvey explained to those present some of the density requirements the Metropolitan Council will be requiring of the City, Rosella Sonsteby - stated she didn't even know anything about these proposed rezonings, nor did she get a letter about them. She had to call City Hall to find out what was being planned for her property, which irritated her. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution as presented by Staff denying the Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan with one change: The third WHEREAS, change "approval of the amendment:" to "denial of the amendment". (Resolution ROSI-OO) Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Carlberg suggested the Council move to withdraw the Comprehensive Plan Amendment for the Hupp property on Andover and Hanson Boulevards. Because it was a City-initiated project, Mr. Hupp will still be able to request a Comprehensive Plan Amendmcnt when the development comes in and a public hearing will be held for that plus the rezoning and preliminary plat. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that the Council withdraw the City-initiated request for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment at the intersection of Hanson and Andover Boulevards. (Resolution ROS2-00) DISCUSSION: Mr. Carlberg Council noted that the drainage issue brought up at the Resident Forum would be discussed at the public hearing. Councilmember Orttel again suggested the City redraft the ordinance to provide the control the City needs for any multiple rezonings. Councilmember Jacobson called the question. YOTE: Carried unanimously. YOTE ON MOTION: Carried unanimously. After discussing the drainage issue on the properties along Andover Boulevard between Hanson and Crosstown Boulevards, Mr. Erickson was directed to review the problem. He stated he would send a letter to the residents and set up an informal meeting with them in the next two weeks to discuss the problems. Thomas Enzmann. 1718 Andover Boulevard - asked ifit was true that Mr. Hupp's sketch plan had been approved by the Council and whether the Staff had recommended approval of the Comprehensive Plan Amendment subject to approval by the Metropolitan Council. The Council explained they do not approve sketch plans but only discuss them and provide some direction. Mr. Carlberg explained Staff made a recommendation for approval; however, the Planning Commission recommended no action be taken. The City Council withdrew the request this evening. ~ &-21- ø CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NoW,. ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100 Regular City Council Meeting - Monday, March 6, 2000 agenda Call to Order - 7:00 PM Bookmark Resident Forum Name Agenda Approval Consent Agenda Approval of Minutes minutes Plaque Presentation Discussion Items I. Comp Plan AmendmentsN arious Properties/City of Andover cpaandov 2. Sketch Plan/Woodland Creek TownhomeslWoodland Development skpwoodland 3. Comp Plan AmendmentIWoodland Creek Townhomes cpawoodland 4. Comp, Plan Amendment/North Valley RidgeÆd Fields and Sons cpafields 5. Preliminary Plat/North Valley RidgeÆd Fields and Sons ppfields 6. Sketch Plan/Dave Harris Property/Dave Harris skpharris 7. Grey Oaks Discussion greyoaks 8, School Issues Discussion schools 9, Order Feasibility Report/00-18Æxtension ofMSA Street (Andover Boulevard) ordOO18 10, Adopt Housing Goals/Metropolitan Council goals Staff, Committees, Commissions II. Appoint Street Supervisor street 12. Set Date/Joint Meeting/Council and Public Works setdate 13. Road Committee Update road 14. Schedule EDA Meeting eda 15. Community Center Study Phase II comcenter Non-Discussion/Consent Items 16. Accept Request ToTable Sketch Plan Review/Harstad Townhome Dev,/Harstad Companies harstad 17. Approve Amended SUPfUse of Banners, Decor. & Signs/13727 Hanson Blvd. NW /SuperAmericasupsa 18. Approve Lot Split/Variance/ Lot I, Block 2, Andover Station/City of Andover 11 b2astation 19. Approve Lot Split/Variance/ Lot 2, Block 2, Andover Station/City of Andover 12b2astation 20. Approve Lot Split/I7674 Flintwood Street NW/Del Hassan Ishassan 21. Repeal Ordinance No. 220, Excavations in the Right-of-way repeal220 22. Approve Office 2000 Upgrade & Network Hardware Purchases office2000 23. Approve Financial System-AS/400 Hardware & Operating Software-Upgrade as400 24. Approve Associate Member Participation Agreement/MCIT mcit 25, Approve Sunshine Park Concession Agreement/C & H Enterprises sunshine 26. Accept Revised Feasibility Report/98-11/Jay Street NW acpt9811 27. Award Bid/94-30B & C/City Hall Parking Lot Construction & Lighting bid9430bc 28. Approve Plans & Specs/99-18/Shadowbrook 6th Addition appr9918 29. Extend Bid Award Date/98-29/Grey Oaks (Phase 1) extend9829 30. Order Supplemental Feasibility Report/98-29/Grey Oaks (Phase I & II) ord9829 31. Approve Revised Resolution/97-45 (00-14)/Right-of- Way Management Costs apprOO14 32. Approve Plans & Specs/99-28/Navajo Street, 173rd Ave, 175th Ave appr9928 33. Update of MPCA NPDES (Phase II) Requirements mpca Mayor/Council Input Payment of Claims Adjournment L/'l.A'/~L<J ~ (""--' 3-21- LX.) REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - MARCH 6,2000 TABLE OF CONTENTS RESIDENT FORUM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . .. 1 AGENDA APPROVAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 1 CONSENT AGENDA Accept request to table sketch plan reviewlHardstad Town Home Development . . . . .. 2 Resolution R041-00 approving Amended Special Use Permit/Use of Banners, Decor & Signs/ 13727 Hanson Boulevard/Super America. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution R042-00 approving lot splitlVariance/Lot I, Block 2, Andover Station. . .. 2 Resolution R043-00 approving lot splitIVariance/Lot 2, Block 2, Andover Station. . .. 2 Resolution R044-00 approving lot split/17674 Flintwood/Del Hassan . . . . . . . . , . . . .. 2 Repeal Ordinance No. 220, Excavations in the Right of Way . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Approve Office 2000 upgrade and network hardware purchases . . . . , . . , . . . . , . , . . ,. 2 Approve financial system-AS/400 hardware and operating software upgrade .....,.. 2 Approve association member participation agreement/MCIT ..................... 2 Resolution R045-00 accepting revised feasibility report/IP98-11/Jay Street. . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution R046-00 awarding bid/IP94-30B & C/City Hall parking lot construction and lighting. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . .. 2 Resolution R047-00 approving plans and specs/IP99-18/Shadowbrook 6th. . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution R048-00 extending bid award date/IP98-20/Grey Oaks (Phase I) . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution R049-00 ordering supplemental feasibility report/IP98-29/Grey Oaks (Phase I & II) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution R050-00 approving revised resolution/IP97-45 (00-14)/Right-of-Way Management Costs ....................................,............. 2 Resolution R060-00 approving plans and specs/IP99-28/Navajo, 173rd, 175th ....... 2 Update ofMPCA NPDES (Phase II) requirements. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . , . . . . . .. 2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES .................................................. 2 PLAQUE PRESENTATION (Dave Blackstad) ................................... 3 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTSN ARIOUS PROPERTIES/ANDOVER. . .. 3 Resolution R051-00 denying amendments. . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. 4 Resolution R052-00 withdrawing amendments for property at Hanson and Andover Boulevards .............,................................... 4 SKETCH PLAN/WOODLAND CREEK TOWN HOMES/WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT 5 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT/WOODLAND CREEK TOWN HOMES Resolution R053-00 approving amendment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 6 COMP PLAN AMENDMENT/NORTH V ALLEY RIDGE/ ED FIELDS & SONS ....... 6 Resolution R054-00 to amend Comp Plan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 7 PRELIMINARY PLAT/NORTH VALLEY RIDGE/ED FIELDS & SONS.............. 7 Resolution R055-00 approving preliminary plat .........................,..... 9 SCHOO LIS SUES DISCUSSION........ ... ....... ........................... 10 Resolution R056-00 agreeing to conditions of school district . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 15 Motion to schedule special work session for March 9 . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . .. 15 Resolution R057-00 to forward a Comp Plan amendment to Met Council for MUSA expansion for proposed school site. .............................. 16 Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Table of Contents Page ii SKETCH PLANIDA VE HARRIS PROPERTYIDA VE HARRIS Motion to contact Leonard Parker & Associations regarding a master plan ..,...... 16 Motion to refer ordinance amendment to Planning Commission to require contract zoning for multiple districts ......,............................ 17 HOUSING GOALSIMETROPOLITAN COUNCIL ............................... 17 Resolution R058-00 adopting the housing goals for 2000-2010 .................. 18 FEASIBILITY REPORTIIPOO-18ÆXTENSION OF MUSA (ANDOVER BLVD) Resolution R059-00 ordering feasibility .................................... 18 APPOINT STREET SUPERVISOR Motion to appoint Irwin Russell (withdrawn) Motion to appointIrwin Russell. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 19 GREY OAKS DISCUSSION ................................................ 19 Motion to reject developer's proposal ....................,................. 20 SET DATE/JOINT MEETING/COUNCIL AND PUBLIC WORKS Motion to set meeting for March 23 at the Public Works Building. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 20 ROAD COMMITIEE UPDATE (tabled to March 9) .................. ............ 20 SCHEDULE EDA MEETING (March 16) ...................................... 20 COMMUNITY CENTER STUDY PHASE II (tabled to next meeting) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 20 SUNSHINE PARK CONCESSION AGREEMENT/ C & H ENTERPRISES. . . . . . . . . .. 20 Motion to approve ...............................................,..... 21 MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT Blandings turtle ....................................................... 21 Storage requirements in the ordinance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 21 Meetings . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 21 APPROVAL OF CLAIMS ..............,...........,....................... 21 ADJOURNMENT......................................................... 21 Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 5 (Comprehensive Plan Amendments/Various Properties/City of Andover, Continued) Winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard - stated there was a change in the storm sewer system by the City's consulting engineer TKDA with the approval of the City Engineer to scrap the Hanson Boulevard storm sewer system. The result is an overload on the Xeon storm sewer system, too much runoff into Lake Andover and drainage problems for areas such as behind the properties along Andover Boulevard which was brought to the Council's attention tonight. SKETCH PLANIWOODLAND CREEK TOWN HOMESIWOODLAND DEVELOPMENT Byron Westlund, Woodland Development, explained the property was purchased in 1986 from the Adolfsons and platted under the PUD of Woodland Creek. Within the development is a 9-hole golf course, residential lots and a 4.8-acre parcel designated to be Neighborhood Business. Covenants were placed on all residential lots, but they neglected to exempt Block 1, Lot 8, the NB parcel. As a result, that parcel can only be used for residential purposes. In meeting with the residents of Woodland Creek, the sketch plan before the Council is a compromise between Woodland Development and the residents. It is 4.8 acres, in the MUSA, has sewer and water stubbed to it and has a berm along the north and east property lines. The proposal is to create 19 lots, 18 for town homes and one for the association common space. The twin homes would be developed and built by Woodland Development with prices averaging $150,000 without the lot, $225,000 with the lot. The twin homes would only have one common wall, attached at the garage, square footage of 1445 to 1630, porches and decks offered and the availability to finish the lower level. The outside would be maintenance free material, and the association would take care of all outside maintenance. Typical clients are anticipated to be in their upper 50s looking to move to a maintenance free residence, many snow birds here for the summer and gone in the winter or working or retired professionals. A similar development in Ham Lake has been very successful. Councilmember Orttel noted this is basically a down zone from commercial to residential. Councilmember Jacobson did not like the idea of an entrance onto Bunker Lake Boulevard on the east side. He also questioned the 12-foot bituminous area on the east side. He suggested the berm on the north side be enhanced to provide a greater barrier. He questioned the need for internal trails since one already exists along Bunker Lake Boulevard. Should there be a turn lane off Marigold into this development? Will the developer need to provide ponding? Mr. Westlund stated the intent was to provide another access with knock-down barriers for emergency vehicles only, not to provide an ingress or egress for residents. The 12-foot street was also to provide access. Marigold already has two lanes. Mr. Carlberg stated there is a regional trail along Bunker Lake Boulevard. Staff was asking if there should be something internal to bring the residents from within the development down to that trail. Mr. Erickson stated the developer will have to pond on site. They will have to receive approval from the Coon Creek Watershed plus abide by all ponding criteria, Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 6 (Comp Plan Amendment/Woodland Creek Town HomeslWoodland Development, Continued) Mr. Westlund stated they will discuss the storm sewer with the Watershed and City engineering. The plat was developed to handle the water. Council member Jacobson noted the sewer and water was assessed for commercial. Will the City have to refund money since it will now be multiple housing? Mr. Erickson stated no. Discussion returned to the road layout, the 12- foot bituminous strip connecting the roads and the emergency access proposed onto Bunker Lake Boulevard. It was noted that these will be private streets and that it makes sense to have the service by going around, Mayor McKelvey indicated he preferred to see the normal street width rather than the 12-foot alley. Chief Winkel didn't feel the emergency access was necessary, though it would be nice. It would also be advantageous to have the road on the east side of the development for emergency vehicles, but they could also drive over green space if necessary. He would always recommended at least a 20-foot wide street. No specific direction was given on the 12-foot alley and emergency access. It was suggested the Park and Recreation Commission review the trail system and explore whether or not internal trails are recommended in this area. There were no further comments. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT/WOODLAND CREEK TOWN HOMES Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, the Resolution as presented, adding a second condition that the Comprehensive Plan change is approved if the plan is constructed essentially as shown on the sketch plan before the Council on March 6. (Resolution R053-00 amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan from RU, Residential Urban Single Family to RM, Residential Medium Density) Motion carried unanimously. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT/NORTH VALLEY RlDGE/ED FIELDS AND SONS Mr. Carlberg explained the amendment is for a land use designated change from A, Agricultural Preserve, to RR, Residential Rural on 28 acres owned by Ed Fields and Sons, being submitted in conjunction with the North Valley Ridge preliminary plat. The Plarming and Zoning Commission is recommending approval. The Ag Preserve designation has dropped off from a tax standpoint, but it is still zoned Ag Preserve, so the Comp Plan must be amended to change it to rural residential. When the sketch plan came in over a year ago, this area was in the urban service area. Since that time the City is not looking to develop this area as urban residential. Under the old plan, which is still in effect, the land within the proposed urban service area could develop into one-acre lots. At that time the Council agreed to the proposal. This was also in the works prior to any negotiations with the Metropolitan Council on density. .. - Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 7 (Comp Plan Amendment/North Valley Ridge/Ed Fields and Sons, Continued) Councilmember Knight was concerned with the Metropolitan Council's policy on rural density. Mayor McKelvey stated in talking with the Met Council Staff, they understand that this 28 acres is a part of the overall 120 acres of undevelopable agricultural land behind it. Mr. Carlberg stated all this does is take off the Ag Preserve and return it back to rural residential. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, the Resolution. (Resolution R054-00 amending the Comprehensive Plan from A, Agriculture to RR, Residential Rural on approximately 28 acres in the SW 1/4 of the SW 1/4 of Section 15) Motion carried unanimously. PRELIMINARY PLATINORTH VALLEY RIDGEÆD FIELDS AND SONS Jeff Caine, Caine and Associates, reviewed the preliminary plat which consists of 28 acres proposed to be subdivided into 21 residential lots and one outlot which will be used for agriculture. This property connects four dead-end streets in the adjacent subdivisions, making through streets of all of them. They are asking for one variance on Block 2, Lot 2, for the minimum width and depth because of the pipeline easement across the lot. Mr. Carlberg stated the Planning and Zoning Commission had a lengthy discussion on the various street configurations but is recommending approval of the preliminary plat as presented. Two conditions have been added to the Resolution since the P & Z meeting. The existing garage on Lot 1, Block 1 will be relocated parallel to the existing home. The other item is an easement on Uplander and Swallow that will have to be vacated prior to final approval. Several residents of the surrounding area then addressed the Council specifically on the road alignments through the proposed plat. Dan Bennington. 15638 Raven - stated Mr. Caine and Mr. Fields have said they would agree to any road alignment change as long as it would not delay the plat and as long as the costs won't go up. The changes are designed to stop the streets rrom becoming drag strips through the neighborhoods. They are hoping to preserve the cul-de-sac on Raven to maintain safety, maintain home values, eliminate speeding through the neighborhood and eliminate people cutting through the neighborhood. The cul-de-sac will force people to take the curve into Nightingale Preserve, which would slow traffic immensely. The association in Nightingale Preserve has said it supports this proposal. It will keep both neighborhoods safe but still retain three exists out of the North Valley Ridge development. Mr. Carlberg stated this would still be considered a major change. They would have to resubmit this to the Watershed Board because of the drainage and the City would bring it back to a public hearing. There could be a delay if any of the parties don't follow through in a timely manner. Because this is a rural plat, they are not tied to the urban time frame of development. Mr. Bennington felt the changes were minimal. If the cul-de-sac on Raven is left as is, the property owner of Lot 10 has an agreement from Mr. Fields to purchase Lot 11 so the two lots would be under the same ownership. The savings of not having to extend Raven to the south of 157th would be Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 8 (Preliminary Plat/North Vaffey Ridge/Ed Fields and Sons, Continued) substantial. The cul-de-sac on Raven is now a temporary one. He argued the intent when Wittington Ridge was developed was that the surrounding properties would also be 2'li acres. Then a through street made sense. But since the property is being developed into one-acre lots, they are adversely affected by that and do not want the safety hazard of all the additional traffic. Mr. Caine stated they are not in favor of the proposal, thinking the City would never allow a permanent cul-de-sac of 1500 to 1600 feet. Making the change as proposed isn't a major one; but in all the City has done in the past, the intent has always been to provide through streets. He did not believe the change would require going back through the platting process. The Council discussed the proposal with Mr. Caine and the residents regarding the ramifications of a permanent cul-de-sac on Raven in Wittington Ridge; the impact on the residents in Nightingale Preserve because of increased traffic; the concern with only one outlet to Wittington Ridge and the distance from Nightingale to the back of that plat; that even when Wittington Ridge was developed, the land was in the future urban service area, and on speculation of traffic patterns. Chief Winkel pointed out the public safety issues related to only one entrance and recommended trying to tie the roads together rather than retaining cul-de-sacs. With Raven as a through street, there would be a second access to this development from the north. In further discussion, It was pointed out a cul- de-sac would not change anything in Wittington Ridge, that additional easement would be needed and the cul-de-sac taken up and rebuilt to permanent standards, The question is who would pay for the upgrading of the cul-de-sac since it is outside of this plat. Mike Walz. 2176 157th Lane - is president of the Nightingale Preserve Association and an owner of the lot at the intersection of 157th and the proposed Raven street. He has seen a lot of high speed traffic through there even though there is no plat. His concern is for the safety of the children. They were informed of this potential development when they purchased their property l'li years ago and were aware the two cul-de-sacs would meet. The modified plat as proposed by the residents has their full approval. He understood the limited access in the new plat will definitely increase traffic on 157th. Mayor McKelvey wanted to know what the other residents along 157th in Nightingale Preserve felt about the residents' proposal on the street alignment. Mike ? 15620 Osage - argued they had originally suggested another street configuration; but in talking with Mr. Fields, they do not want to impede his progress. The Field's have been wonderful neighbors, and they do not want to upset them. They like the proposed street because of the safety factor. Directing traffic to the corner and the tight curvy road of 157th is preferable than having a long straight road. This came about after many hours of work. They do not feel a revision tonight would require a replat approval. Councilmember Orttel thought the proposed change in road alignment was a minor issue, but it would be setting a precedent. If the new high school is built to the south, there will be a lot of young people trying to find short cuts through neighborhoods; and that concerns him. With a through street, there could be some problems; and he didn't think the City wanted to encourage that. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6. 2000 Page 9 (Preliminary Plat/North Valley Ridge/Ed Fields and Sons. Continued) Mr. Caine stated they do not have a problem with the new street layout as long as they receive a variance on the corner lot for frontage and the cul-de-sac. He again expressed surprise because of the strict requirement in the past of not allowing long cul-de-sacs. Their main concern is not having a delay. In discussing who would pay for rebuilding the cui-dc-sac on Raven to the permanent requirements, several of the neighbors stated if the developer does not, they as a neighborhood would pitch in and pay for it themselves. They are assuming part of that expense could be shared with Mr. Fields. Brian Fluth. 15667 Raven Street - stated there was a safety issue to be addressed. They spent time and met with the developer to meet the needs of both. This is what the citizens and developer are proposing together. They spoke with the president of Nightingale Preserve Association, who agreed. The Council has to realize that they are the people who live out there and this is what they want to see done. There is no perfect solution. Councilmember Knight stated one of the functions of government is to solve these very kinds of problems, and it has to be flexible. He understood the argument for the new street alignment and didn't feel the City should be so set in stone that it cannot move. In discussing the corner of Raven and 157th in the plat, Mr. Erickson stated it would be about a 90 degree comer. It would be signed appropriately. It is not preferable, but they can work with it. One of his concerns with the proposal is eliminating access to Wittington Ridge on Raven, permanently leaving only one access to that subdivision. He realized opening Raven would mean extra traffic to the neighborhood, but normally that traffic would be distributed between 157th and 156th. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to approve the preliminary plat as presented to the City Council with the residents' option on Raven Street to be negotiated in a configuration with the developer, with the developer to assure construction of the cul-de-sac to be completed; and to return that item to the City within two weeks. DISCUSSION: Mr. Caine asked who wi!! pay for the cul-de- sac. Councilmember Orttel noted that wi!! be negotiated between the developer and the neighbors. Councilmember Jacobson asked about the septic system clean out on Block I, Lots 8 and 9, who wi!! own the outlot, and whether the firm doing the soil borings is qualified. Mr. Caine stated the pipe comes out of the ground on that point and is on Lot 3 in the next plat. The outlot will be owned by the Fields, who also own the ag fields on both sides. Mr. Erickson stated the firm is doing the septic system design and another firm will be designing the streets. The firm is qualified. Council then noted the need for the variance on Block 1, Lots 10 and 11. Councilmember Orttel added to the motion: Lots 10 and 11, Block 1, the variance on Lot 10 for frontage due to the fact that it is on a comer, and Lot 11 due to the fact that it is on a cul-de-sac and does not have the required 160 feet offrontage. Second Stands. (Resolution R055-00) Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 10 (Preliminary Plat/North Valley Ridge/Ed Fields and Sons, Continued) DISCUSSION: Councilmember Johnson was not opposed to the residents' option but hoped everyone understood that someone will be getting this traffic, and it means more traffic on the road for others. Mr. Walz stated a resident who lives in Nightingale Preserves who has just left told him he is okay with the proposal. His only concern was he wants additional signage because there are a lot of children in the neighborhood, The whole attempt was to keep local traffic and discourage through traffic. (After the vote, he thanked the Council and Statffor their efforts in the high school project.) Councilmember Jacobson was concerned the traffic is all being dumped into Nightingale Preserve. He didn't want people coming in a year and a half from now complaining about the traffic. His preference is to put Raven through; but if everyone can agree, he is willing to scrap what the City should be doing and do what the community wants. Mayor McKelvey was also concerned with dumping all the traffic on 157th in Nightingale Preserve because of the large number of children along that road. He didn't think some of the residents knew about this proposal. Councilmember Johnson called the question. VOTE: Carried unanimously. VOTE ON MOTION: Carried unanimously. SCHOOL ISSUES DISCUSSION Mr. Carlberg noted the draft resolution before the Council which responds to the seven issues the school board raised with regard to their selection of Site No.1, the Eveland property, as the primary site for the high school in the City of Andover. Councilmember Orttel noted approval would be only conceptual, as this Council has to research, plan and hold hearings on most items. The Council must also consider those long-range issues outside of this area such as funding and transportation. The high traffic that will be generated along Andover Boulevard will be an issue. The funding of traffic signals along Hanson Boulevard at Andover Boulevard and Crosstown Boulevard is an issue. Councilmember Jacobson didn't have a problem with any of the itcms except Number 4 which states the City will construct a municipal state aid road from CrosstOV,'Il Boulevard to Round Lake Boulevard. The Council has said they will consider building it and authorized a feasibility to look at possible locations and costs; however, because of the soils and/or economics, it simply may not be feasible to do. Or it may not be able to be completed for many years. He did not want the Council to commit to constructing that road without having more information and suggested the Resolution be reworded to state the City will investigate the MSA road rather than the City will construct it. (Attorney Sullivan arrived at this time, 9:04 p.m.) Mr. Erickson stated possible alignments and soils conditions have been discussed, but beyond the school alignment and costs will not be known until soil borings are done. For funding, it would be possible to bond for it over a 1 O-year period with the principal paid by State Aid funds and interested Regular Andover Cily Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page ii (School issues Discussion, Continued) paid by State Aid maintenance funds. Further Council discussion noted a State Aid road has to go through and connect to another State Aid or major highway, that it can be done in phases and that the City cannot commit to it for now until more is known. The Resolution does not say when the road will be constructed. Other issues will be whether or not sewer and water should be installed if/when the road is built and the financing of those utilities if they are put in. The advantage of the road would be alleviating some of the problems around the proposed school, taking some of the traffic off Nightingale, CoRd 20 and South Coon Creek Drive. Councilmember Knight pointed out there are two school districts in the City. If general funds are used to benefit one school district, what are the legal problems for the taxpayers in the other district. Attorney Sullivan did not know but will research it further. Councilmember Orttel noted the payment for the bond would not be from the general fund. The roads would also be a general benefit to the City, not exclusively for the school. Mayor McKelvey stated the easement for the road to the school will be worked out along with the rest of the agreements if this site is chosen. Councilmember Orttel didn't feel the City had a lot of options. He felt the intent is to build the road for traffic management if the school goes in, acknowledging it will advance the state aid schedule a lot and will change this part of town considerably. It is a given that the road will go at least to the school property line, and it would be foolish to leave it there. He felt Items 5, 6 and 7 have more of an impact. Mr. Erickson stated the feasibility can be broken down into sections with phases and costs shown. Councilmember Knight also cautioned that a good joint powers agreement for the use of the athletic facilities be negotiated so the school can use the City's fields and the City is able to use the school district facilities. Mayor McKelvey stated that was discussed at today's meeting. He understands the City will be able to use the school district's fields, tennis courts and basketball courts. They would maintain their facilities and the City would maintain its facilities. An overpass or underpass to Sunshine Park has already been factored into the City's trail system. Carol Chrisopherson 1703 Andover Boulevard - talked about the trouble they already have with kids and how the problem will only be increased with a high school on Crosstown Boulevard. She also reported there are 470 vehicles driving down Andover Boulevard between Crosstown and Hanson Boulevards at 60 mph between 6 and 8 a.m. already. It is a narrow road with curbs with a speed limit of30 mph. When Andover Boulevard was upgraded with sewer and water, she was assessed almost $4,000, plus three sewer hookups were put in on her property. She didn't understand why she needed three, stating Bill Hupp paid less but has more acreage. She asked the Council to reconsider this. Joel Tredder. 210S 150th Avenue NW. Woodland Estates - is very nervous about people making decisions in a hurry. He felt this is being rushed through and not thought through. He talked about his experience with delivering product to high schools and the safety issues with that many young drivers in the area. He doesn't believe high school students should be driving to school. It is very dangerous. He is also worried about the price of the roads and tunnel the City is being asked to Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 12 (Schoo/Issues Discussion, Continued) provide. It seems like all this is being hurried through because the school district is holding the City hostage. Ifso, then let them put the school some place else. He'd like to have the school in Andover if it provides safety for the residents around them. When they moved to Woodland Estates, they were told it would be residential on both sides. He hoped the Council will look at the people and not act on the school as a personal issue. Dennis Mudden. 443 I 56th A venue NW - grew up in St. Cloud across from a high school and found it to be a wonderful experience. There is traffic for half an hour in the morning and in the evening, but not during rush hours, so there is no conflict. He didn't want his children to be bussed or to drive a long ways to school, as that is very dangerous as well. His taxes are high now and he is willing to pay for the betterment of the community and to educate his children. But he is concerned about the price the City is talking about paying. Bill Hupp. 1650 Andover Boulevard - has been a resident for 22 years and is very much in favor of the school and the amenities needed in that area. The idea of having the high school centralized and close which puts the community in touch with their educational system is very, very important to him. He hoped the City does as much as possible to make sure Andover gets the school. Mark Grossling. 15030? - stated a month ago a high school was discussed in this area and he was concerned about the traffic and safety. He keeps hearing about this but has not seen the plan. There is a concern with traffic on Andover Boulevard, and he was not sure how that would be addressed. He drives around the cities for his job and experienced a half-an-hour wait at a Holiday Station near the Champlin Park High School because of the traffic when the students were let out for the day. Crosstown Boulevard is only a single lane, which would make the traffic worse. He contended this is not a safe situation and would feel better about this decision tonight if there were some definitive terms of what the City would be doing with the roads and with the wording on the Resolution relating to the roads. Thomas Enzmann. 1718 Andover Boulevard - agreed it was great growing up next to a high school. They call Andover Boulevard the Indianapolis 500 now because the cars fly down there every day. What are the City's plans to accommodate the traffic in Mr. Hupp's plans? A commercial area on his property wi!! support the gathering of those students. He didn't know how the road could be widened because the houses are already very close to the road. He'd like to know the City's plans for that road. John Knoll. 3140 149th A venue - stated the road between Crosstown and Round Lake Boulevards was discussed several years ago. At that time the City Council unanimously agreed that road would never be built, and he understood it would be taken off the State Aid map. It was decided it didn't make sense to build that road because of the soils, the costs and the lack of need. He didn't know what has changed now besides the school. He doesn't want the road to go through because it would run through his front yard, but it needs to be looked at from a cost factor as well. --. -- Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 13 (School Issues Discussion, Continued) Mmy Harold - noted her property would back up to the new road. She felt everything is escalating quickly without considering due process. She hurriedly called some of her neighbors about this meeting, but many people do not know what is going on. If those seven items are approved, many of them are very much affected by this and will not have been given the opportunity to participate. Councilmember Orttel explained he is suggesting the City discuss portions of the issues individually so serious consideration can be given with those directly affected, and not everyone will have to sit in on all issues. There are many issues that will need to be decided. Ms, Harold argued there may be other options, yet the Council is making the commitment tonight without knowing all the facts and without resident input. She implored the Council to include language such that the City affords an opportunity for discussion by the people who are affected tremendously. Councilmember Orttel explained that everything in the Resolution is subject to the legal process that must be gone through, which requires the public hearings. That won't happen until after the school district approves a site for the high school. Councilmember Knight hoped the Council can convey to the school board that this is a human problem which affects people no matter where it is built. The road issue has been looked at a number of times and has always been ruled out because of the soil problems. Now the City seems to be saying it is not a problem, so he understood where the residents are coming from. He wanted the school board to know that the City doesn't know whether that road can be built for sure. Ken Sylzuk - stated anyway the road is built through, there is peat. Most of the sand knolls include the existing road. A road does not belong through there. It was talked about many, many times. Then one day they were told it is off the docket; now it is back on. He alleged the Council is giving the whole City away to get the school, and there isn't a more suicidal place to put the entrance onto Round Lake Boulevard than at 149th. Is the City going to clear the road behind him when he goes through with his trucks which will bring dirt onto the road? Councilmember Jacobson again stated the school board needs to be made aware of the fact that the City is committed to investigating the road and looking at the feasibility of building it. Kathy? . Ham Lake - stated the major issue is the children. Her children are bussed to Blaine High school for 10 miles down Highway 65. She would like to see the school in their neighborhood, as they feel very left out since it will not be in their community. When considering the bussing of children, it makes sense to put it in the community. Winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard - has some of the same concerns as Councilmember Knight. He asked where most of the students will come from. Mayor McKelvey stated Andover now has 1600 students. The new high school is being built for 1400 students, with some of them coming from Ham Lake. Mr. Holasek asked who would pay for liability insurance when the school uses the City's fields. Mayor McKelvey stated the high school would pay for anything to do with the school and the City would be held harmless. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 14 (School Issues Discussion, Continued) Mr. Holasek asked ifal! of these agreements will be finalized before ajoint powers agreement is signed with the school. He understood the Council is making a decision on the concept, that a political decision is being made to put the high school in the City because a majority of the people want it. He cautioned that thorough thought be given to the pros and cons relating to Andover Boulevard. He also questioned why a road is needed to the high school, noting Andover Elementary and other schools come in off existing roads. Why do the Andover taxpayers have to subsidize the school district to construct the roads. He didn't think that was done for any of the other high schools and didn't thinking it is right. He hoped the Council would give serious consideration to this and not make a hasty decision. Mayor McKelvey stated Blaine and Champlin Park did not give the school district streets but did not charge for sewer and water. Andover will be charging for sewer and water. Julie Trude - pointed out because the school district didn't plan, the City didn't set aside land in its Comprehensive Plan for a high school, but now the City has to make something work. Many people in the City think a high school will bring value to all homes. ¡fit goes in Ramsey, students will continue to be bussed to Anoka and Blaine. It will basically deplete 1400 students from Anoka because most of the students in Ramsey go to Elk River. It is difficult to build a sense of family and community without the high school, and that may have been acceptable when this was a rural community. Now there is a mass of people in the City and that has to be dealt with. Students from the City are going to five different elementary schools and three different middle schools. With one high school in the City, she felt the people will be very proud of the school. Civil clubs will evolve possibly to build an ice arena or to provide a community center, plus kids' groups will form. It will be a benefit to have the kids in the community. The worst situation is the formation of new boundaries if the high school goes in Ramsey. East-west roads are needed in Andover and have been talked about for decades. Other communities have dealt with this issue successfully. She appreciated the work of the Council and Staff, as the school board has been difficult to work with. Mrs, Grossling. 15030? - stated it is easy for people to support the high school when they are not directly affected. She originally wanted the high school in Andover but feels it is being put in a very poor location. She asked about the location for the underground pass and about the status of the Martinson's house. Mayor McKelvey stated the under or over pass would go just south of the Woodland Estates development. He understood the county is saying the Martinson house will have to be removed to widen the road. The upgrading of that road is in the county's schedule. Mrs. Grossling stated she talked with the Martinsons last weekend, and they did not know what was going on. No one had talked to them about this. The school board had also talked about not wanting to displace anybody at all. She felt there are many issues that have to be addressed before this decision can be made. The Council explained they too are concerned with the fast track and there is traffic control and other things to be considered. The details on where the crossing will be on Crosstown Boulevard, etc., will be worked out. This is just the start. They also reminded the residents that the final decision on the school location has not yet been made. That will be done by Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Pagei5 (School issues Discussion, Continued) the school board on March 13. There is no intent to carry Raven through to the proposed high school. Councilmember Knight had some concerns with the negative attitude toward high school students raised this evening, noting they are not the enemies but are our children. He pointed out 99 percent of them are good. Councilmember Jacobson also felt if Andover is chosen as the site for the high school, some people will say no and move out. When he makes a decision, he looks at what is best for the entire City and what is best for all of the kids, even considering the objections. Frank? .15120 Zilla - noted there were nine sites chosen in Andover and all were rejected for one reason or another. There are so many factors involved in all of the issues. He didn't think anyone in the City could say the homework wasn't done, He felt all sites were viewed fairly and eliminated for various reasons. Safety is a huge issue. He lives in Winslow Hills and deals with the safety problem of Hanson Boulevard every day, but they survive. They are looking for the betterment of the schools and for the children. He moved to Andover specifically because of the schools in terms of quality of education. Other communities with smaller populations support high schools; it is outlandish to think Andover with 27,000 people is debating how to best educate its kids. Politically some people will be happy and some will not. It is very unfortunate that this is creating division within the community. He felt the majority of the residents have spoken and want the school for the kids and for the betterment of their education. Nine sites were looked at and they came back to this one because of the tremendous amount of community involvement. He spoke with Mr. Sullivan (school board member) today, and yes there are some tough choices to be made the next few weeks. He felt all seven items are open to further negotiation. He asked that everyone work to creating resolutions to the issues in order to have a better education in the City of Andover for the kids. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, the Resolution as prepared with the caveat that the presenter, presuming it will be the Mayor, present it to the school board with an open and frank discussion about Item 4, the Municipal State Aid street, and really discuss the concerns brought up here about that extension and costs discussed tonight. (Resolution R056-00) DISCUSSION: Councilmember Johnson stated she works in the elementary and middle schools and has volunteered in the high school. She cautioned against labeling the high school students, as they are liable to take on those characteristics if the community doesn't welcome them with open arms. Most are very reliable; they are our future. Motion carried unanimously. The Council agreed to hold a work session on Thursday, March 9, to discuss the issues relating to the location of the high school on Crosstown Boulevard. They also briefly discussed the process to resolve the traffic issues. They asked Staff to obtain the documentation from the school district on where they anticipate the students would be coming from, which in turn can be used to determine traffic pattern and road improvement needs. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, for a special work session at 7 o'clock on Thursday, March 9. Motion carried unanimously. ------ Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 16 (School Issues Discussion. Continued) Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, that the Council direct Staff to prepare and forward to the Metropolitan Council a Comprehensive Plan Amendment for the MUSA expansion to include the proposed school site. (Resolution R057-00) Motion carried unanimously. SKETCH PLANIDA VE HARRIS PROPERTY IDA VE HARRIS Dave Harris understood there is some discussion on a study to redevelop this area, If the City is not going to change the streets or the sewer and water in the streets, he felt the use he is proposing for the property fits well into any redevelopment plans for the area. He is proposing to develop two four-unit owner-occupied townhomes. The property to the south is commercial, the west and north is road and the east is the walkway to the park. It is an island. The units would sell for about $140,000 each. A M-2 zone development would be ideal to jump start this whole area with this proposed $1 + million investment. The development will also satisfy a need in the area and could jump start the improvements the City is looking for. The Council discussed the proposal. It may be a logical buffer to the redevelopment of that area, but would it be a logical buffer regardless of what the City does in that area? It is hard to know without going through the redevelopment study. If it is rezoned, the Council wanted to be sure it was tied to the proposed development to be assured no other proposal could be developed on the site. An issue with this proposal is if it is denied, the owner has the right to construct two single family homes on those lots. That could create a problem for what the City wants to do there. Another option may be to have the City buy the two lots, as it may be nice to have that as an open area. Mr. Fursman stated the intent was to use CDBG funding this spring or summer to look at the impact of Bunker Lake Boulevard in that area and to determine whether the area should be redeveloped as residential or commercial. Mr. Carlberg suggested the City contract with an architectural firm such as Leonard Parker to create a master plan. He felt something could be done fairly quickly.. The first step would be to have a visioning session for ideas, then develop a master plan. He could contact the firm and have them on the next agenda. Mr. Harris stated if something could be done within a couple weeks, he would not object to waiting. He verbally agreed to table the item to the next meeting for further discussion. He also agreed to bring in the plans of the proposed buildings for the lots for the Council to review. Motionby Knight, Seconded by Orttel, directing Staff to contact Leonard Parker and Associates and prepare some proposal for the next meeting. Motion carried unanimously. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 17 (Sketch Plan/Dave Harris Property/Dave Harris, Continued) Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that the Council send a request to the Planning Commission to hold a public hearing for the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to require that any multiple zoning district require that a concise plan of the proposed construction be included in a contract for the rezoning. Motion carried unanimously. The Council recessed at 10:53; reconvened at 11 :03 p.m. ADOPT HOUSING GOALSIMETROPOLITAN COUNCIL Mr. Carlberg noted the proposed Resolution to officially adopt the housing goals that were negotiated with the Metropolitan Council. He reviewed the interpretation of the goals and their applicability to the various types of housing for future development. The six units per acre of density would have to be developed to offset single family homes that are built to achieve the average density goal. The Metropolitan Council affordable housing standard is $134,500. The City does not have to market to meet these goals, but it cannot put up roadblocks to prohibit lower cost housing. The Council took issue with some of the items in Attachment B of the Metropolitan Council Februa¡y 24,2000, letter. Some of those are big issues that have not yet been negotiated, especially the rural growth policies. Mr. Carlberg explained the Metropolitan Council's rural growth policy relates to the overall rural density. The City will need to look at the rural areas that are undeveloped and keep the district at one for ten acres for the remaining acreage in the rural area. The City is agreeing these are issues that must still be negotiated. Metropolitan Council member Natalie Hass Steffen announced there is a meeting tomorrow to talk about the implementation of housing goals by cities, and she felt it may be helpful if the Council and/or Staff is able to attend. In terms of roadblocks, if someone came in with plans to use tax credits for housing, the Metropolitan Council would expect the City wouldn't say no. The City can still demand quality housing. She didn't think the City was being asked to actively recruit affordable housing, but there are agencies in Anoka County that are actively pursuing the buying of land and using tax credit for housing. Builders are saying the limiting of the MUSA drives up the cost of land. Right now the City doesn't have an approved Comprehensive Plan. They are asking the City to fill out the 2010 part of the Plan before moving into the 2020 portion. The Council noted they are still working under the 1991 Plan. Ms. Hass Steffen stated the City is asking the Metropolitan Council for an amendment to the 1991 Plan that will include the attachment for housing goals. The approval is also going to be contingent on the City receiving an approved 2020 Plan, and that is why Attachment B is there. Those are the other issues that will have to be negotiated before that Plan is approved. The Metropolitan Council Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 18 (Adopt Housing Goals/Metropolitan Council, Continued) is not holding up the granting of the City's request to remove the Eveland property from the Ag Preserve program and to provide sewer to that property; however, they want assurances the City will continue to negotiate the Items in Attachment B to work toward the completion and approval of the City's 2020 Comprehensive Plan. Her intent is that all of those items are negotiable. Councilmember Knight asked if the attempt is to make sure there is ridership for mass transit. Ms. Hass Steffen didn't think so and went into some detail on the Metropolitan Council's overall plan of modes of transportation, the priority being dollars to fund the bus line and building bus lanes to take care of the congestion around the metropolitan area. The density issue is more in the inner city areas so people don't have to travel so far to go to work. It is also to revitalize that area. It started in the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul and is now spreading out to the suburbs to make sure there will be enough housing for everybody. Discussion continued with Ms. Hass Steffen on the concerns with high density housing in Andover because of the lack of mass transit, the soils, the rural character of the City, and because it is not the type of housing the City wants. Ms. Hass Steffen explained the Met Council can provide help if needed. It is a national problem of creating places for people to live, and this is an attempt to have all cities in the metropolitan area to share in taking care of that problem. It is difficult, and to the extent that they can help, she would like to do so. She also pointed out that the City has just agreed to everything that the Livable Communities Act requires; and if the City would choose to join, it would then be eligible for some funding sources. Councilmember Orttel didn't think the City is going into this willingly. He believes in local control, and the City looses it with this agreement. The City will comply because it has to. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, the Resolution as presented by Staff. (Resolution R058- 00 adopting the housing goals for the City of Andover for the period of2000-201 0 as negotiated with the Metropolitan Council as listed on Attachment A). DISCUSSION: Councilmember Orttel wondered ifit would be advisable to inform the owners of the large rural parcels that there may be some severe development restrictions on their properties in the future. Ms. Hass Steffen suggested completing the Comprehensive Plan first, as the issue of wetlands may not affect development as much as one thinks. Councilmember Jacobson called the question. VOTE: Carried unanimously. VOTE ON MOTION: Carried unanimously. ORDER FEASIBILITY REPORTIIPOO-18ÆXTENSION OF MUSA STREET (ANDOVER BOULEVARD) Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution presented by Staff in Item 9, feasibility report of the MSA street. (Resolution R059-00) Motion carried unanimously. --~~ Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 19 APPOINT STREET SUPERVISOR Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to approve Item II. DISCUSSION: Mr. Fursman asked what salary the Council wished to designate. Councilmember Orttel and Knight withdrew the Second and the Motion. Irwin Russell stated he felt he is worth more than the Six-Month Step because he has been there seven years, four years as a lead person on the four-day week. Considering his age and experience, he proposed starting on Step 2. After a brief discussion, he then agreed to the Council's compromise, Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to hire Irwin Russell as Street Supervisor to start at $43,001 until July 1, and July 1 through the remainder of the year at $44,519. Motion carried unanimously. GREY OAKS DISCUSSION Jerry Windschitl, President of Grey Oaks, Inc., reviewed his February 25, 2000, letter which includes a compromise proposal for senior housing, low and moderate, empty nestor and luxury units in the Grey Oaks development. They would be willing to enter into an agreement or development contract. The attempt is to provide low and moderate housing with the Grey Oaks project to satisfY some of the requirements just adopted by the City that were negotiated with the Metropolitan Council. They believe they can sell the $134,500 low and moderate income units, as there is quite a number of programs available to assist in developing units at that price. The next application would be in November of this year. This is a stand-alone proposal and would not qualifY under the SO-20 requirements imposed in the Resolution when the plan was approved. The senior housing has rental rules with SO-20 qualifications, and there has never been an argument with that. The problem is on the for-sale units. The low and moderate housing is a definition of what they are sold for, so there is no legal problem with designating those. That would include people such as teachers, beginning professionals who do have cars and do not need public transportation. The proposal is the properties would increase in value from east to west with more square footage per unit provided on the west side than the ordinance requires. The Council was concerned that the SO-20 senior empty nester project is not being followed. Mr. Windschitl argued that can only be on rental units, asking if the Council would rather see 352 rental units out there instead of quality housing. The law was designed for rental housing. After further discussion, the Council generally agreed the project should be developed as originally designated in the Resolution approving the preliminary plat. Also, this project does not factor into the requirements negotiated with the Metropolitan Council, as those goals apply to future developments. The intent has always been that this would be a senior/empty nestor housing development. It was done in The Farmstead because of the TIF. Under the extension granted by -.~~ Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 20 (Grey Oaks Discussion, Continued) ~(CI;('Ùn~:tICc-" -~..... 3,¿J-= the Council, the Council must act on the, mal-plat.. y the April 18 meeting. The Council wanted to see covenants that establishes age requirements per the state and federal laws. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that the Council reject the proposal made by the developer for Grey Oaks on the meeting of March 6 and go back to the original preliminary plat with minor corrections as necessary with the original conditions imposed at that time. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Windschitl stated the final plat has been sitting at City Hal! for a long time. When is he going to get the comments of the review? They have been told in two letters that the review is forthcoming. It's been three weeks. Mr. Carlberg stated the Staff report has said the plat is not complete. It will be brought to the March 2.1 ~eet~, but to date it is still iI).cor~lete. TheJ do not have the covenant , and by laws of the Assocratton. IlJ<:- (lIt;) has rU't'lvc Iff/Co. '-~'-'!..s {i.rILt (10V'<'.r'1CiflI:;o buY -ji.~ QY-c. .n0\:.. oO'hf..!le+e..d ÎÚ I'Îe.c.t The cw'Xi'T1L'YlS 0"," 'The. 1\ e Sol '-L+t ÚV\. - û...vYìe..nd-u,: 3-2..I-C;P SET DA TE/JOINT MEETING/COUNCIL AND PUBLIC WORKS Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Johnson, the Public WorkslCity Council meet on March 23 at the Public Works Building, Motion carried unanimously. ROAD COMMITTEE UPDATE The Council agreed to review the meeting minutes at the meeting this Thursday, March 9. SCHEDULE EDA MEETING The Council agreed to schedule an EDA meeting for Thursday, March 16, 7 o'clock p.m. COMMUNITY CENTER STUDY PHASE II Mr. Fursman agreed to bring the item back to the next regular meeting for discussion. APPROVE SUNSHINE PARK CONCESSION AGREEMENT/ C & H ENTERPRISES Councilmember Knight asked how this will be monitored. Mr. Dickinson explained they will be having the normal billing process with the vendor. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - March 6, 2000 Page 21 (Sunshine Park Concession Agreement/C & H Enterprises, Continued) There was some concern with the length of the contract, though it was noted there has been some history with this contractor. Dave Blackstad stated the purpose of the three-year contract was the vendor has committed to purchase additional equipment and offer a larger selection of items. The fee structure is something Mr. Dickinson developed to simplifY recording. There was some confusion one year on the cleanup at the end of the year, but that has been resolved. Mr. Dickinson stated the former system required an extraordinary amount of time for a smaIl amount of money. Last year the City received about $4,200 from the concession. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to approve Item No. 25 as presented. Motion carried unanimously. MA YOR/COUNCIL INPUT Blandings turtle - Councilmember Knight stated he received a call regarding the blandings turtle off Bunker Lake Boulevard and Seventh A venue. He was asked to check with the DNR on the status of the turtle and how to handle it. Mr. Carlberg stated he will contact the DNR and get that information. Storage requirements in the ordinance - The Council suggested the Planning and Zoning Commission consider a letter written by a resident regarding the storage requirements in the ordinance. Some good points were made. Possibly the individual should be invited to attend that meeting. Meetings- Mayor McKelvey noted the Metropolitan Council meeting on Wednesday afternoon when they will be acting on the City's requests. Also, the school board will be making its site selection for the high school on March 13. Mr. Fursman noted that has been published as a special City Council meeting as well since three or more members of the Council will be at that meeting. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Claims. Motion carried unanimously. Motion by Johnson, Seconded by Orttel, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 12:42 a.m. ~~VL M a A. Peach, Recording Secretary