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CITY of ANDOVER
SPECIAL ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 8,2000
MINUTES
A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on
February 8, 2000, 6:33 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Julie Johnson, Mike Knight, Ken Ortte1
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
Park and Recreation Chairperson, Dave Blackstad
INTERVIEW PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION CANDIDATES
The Council interviewed the following candidates for the Park and Recreation Commission:
Paul Anderson
Jim Porter
Richard Snyder
Paul Holtzlider
Dennis Coombs
Mark Christofferson
Dave Blackstad
Todd Moen
David O'Toole
Richard Klakeg
Tom Johnson
Joseph Waalk
Beth Schutz
The candidates were asked about their backgrounds and why they applied for the position, their
opinions on the most important issue relating to parks and recreation facing the City the next five
years, what they feel the parks are lacking, their ability to attend regularly scheduled meetings,
conflicts of interest, how to maintain a balance in the use of the parks by organized sports versus
open uses by the general public, the greatest asset of the parks in the City and why each felt he/she
should be chosen as a Commissioner.
Paul Anderson - has lived in Andover f:Jr 10 to 11 years; is married and has four children; uses the
parks and trails quite a bit; wants to learn about Andover and is interested in actively participating
in the community; feels the important issues facing the City are increased growth, the demand for
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parks, maintenance and improvements and vandalism; feels the parks have to be available to
everybody; feels a wide variety of activities that are cost effective and benefit the City should be
provided; thinks the park near him gets a lot of use but is not familiar with the rest of the City; would
like to see some wilderness activities and more nature areas developed such as trails with wood chips
and cross country skiing; does not have a problem attending the Commission's meetings; belongs
to no associations nor has any vested interest that would be a conflict of interest; feels the trail
system is the City's biggest park asset and is excited about having the trail down to Coon Creek by
his house; doesn't see a problem balancing the use of the parks between organized sports and the
general public; feels parks have to be available for everyone to use; feels he should be picked
because he wi!! always give an honest answer and wi!! always show up for the meetings; has no
hidden agenda and will base decisions on merit, though he doesn't have a lot of knowledge about
the parks.
Jim Porter - has been a resident of Andover for 9 years; has a young family and would like to get
involved with the community; feels the most important issue is providing more accessibility and
activities for the people; would like to see sand volley ball courts, more picnic areas and more family
oriented activities; started parks are geared primarily toward younger children and would like to see
more picnic tables, volleyball and basketball courts, etc., where families can come to for a good time;
really likes the trail system in the City; feels more parks are needed; is able to attend the meetings;
would like to see other parks in the community geared toward adult and family activities such as the
community park in New Brighton; should be chosen for the position because he has a young family
and has a lot to offer the Commission; would like to be part of organizing and providing opinions
regarding the parks in the City; would definitely be interested in having his name on a list for any
other resident committees that may be formed; is opinionated but has no conflict of interest.
Richard Snyder - feels more is being done in the parks than is necessary; sees parks not being used
all day other than organized sports; would like to see where some cuts could be made to save some
taxpayer money; has only used the parks a few times while training for the Fire Department; didn't
think there is anything more that he would like to see provided in the parks; does not have a conflict
of interest and is able to attend the Commission meetings; noted the trail system in Wisconsin uses
Class 5, feeling it is ridiculous that the trails are paved, raping the earth of the oil for the asphalt;
feels Class 5 trails are far better.
Paul Holtzlider - has lived in Andover four years and is a life-long Minnesota resident; has always
been active in outdoor and recreational things; was involved in park and recreation activities in
Minneapolis; wants to get involved as he settles into this area and enjoys and recreational aspect;
protecting the green spaces without hindering growth and development wi!! be the City's challenge
in the next five years; feels a place is needed for recreation and to have community activities and
bring people together; uses the neighborhood parks that have been upgraded with new equipment
the last year and feels the continued upgrading of equipment is important; is not familiar with the
recreational aspect of Andover's programs but would like to see a building as an activity center with
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a pool, gym, etc.; would not have a conflict attending the Commission's meetings; is a proponent
of local control and listening to what the residents want in the parks; would like to hear what the
people want regarding the development of regional parks through calling or by survey; is satisfied
with the trail system and would like to see it expanded as the City grows; felt he should be chosen
for the position because of his interest and willingness to dive in and get involved; is a project
manager at work and has the ability to run meetings, checking with others, seeing that ajob gets
done; feels his biggest asset is he loves to learn,
Dennis Coombs - grew up on Bayfield, Wisconsin; is interested in the position because it is the first
time he's had an opportunity to get involved; plans on staying in the City long enough to get
involved in the community and has always wanted to be involved in the community he lives in; feels
the greatest issue over the next five years is keeping the parks maintained with new equIpment,
though everything is a money issue; has lived here since May and does not live near a park; has not
yet become familiar with the City's parks but does use the county park and some of the trails; is not
aware of anything that would be a conflict of interest; does not yet know what the parks are lacking;
works in the private sector now but did work in the public sector for four years; would be interested
in volunteering on any other committee if not chosen for this one; has some expertise in water
quality; felt he should be chosen for the position because he is eager to become involved and is very
qualified; will think the issues through and get them accomplished and is highly motived; is able to
make Thursday evening meetings.
Mark Christofferson - lives west of Round Lake; has two children; works for the City of Coon
Rapids in the Street Department; has lived in Andover for five years; wants to make it a better place
for his family and everyone else; feels the most important issue facing parks is development and
making sure they are all up to standards for safety for the children; would have no trouble with the
Thursday evening meetings; feels the City offers a lot in terms of parks, so he can't think of anything
specific that is lacking at this point; would hope there is nothing that would prevent him from
making a fair recommendation; noted the trails in Coon Rapids are well used and felt Andover's trail
system is fabulous, allowing people to get out for fresh air and good exercise; is satisfied with the
park system from what he has seen, though there is a problem with the one in his neighborhood
because of the citizens abutting it; felt he should be chosen for the position because he is qualified
for it; has a lot of interest in the park system because he uses it with his children; has experience with
the parks through his employment; feels he can help Andover with ideas that Coon Rapids uses; has
extra sources of ideas that could be brought forth for the City, though not necessarily to use; would
absolutely like to have his name kept on file for any other committee to serve on as he would like
to volunteer his help.
Dave Blackstad - stated the City does have a few volleyball courts but the Commission is looking
at adding more; didn't feel his association with other groups conflicted with his making decisions
on the Commission; noted the scheduling of the fields is done by the two associations and the
Commission simply rubber stamps their proposals; stated there has been a very good working
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relationship between the associations the last several years; felt without more parks, it will be
difficult to provide more for the general public because of the large number of organized sports
teams using the fields; because of the growth in organized sports, it may mean the fields are used
every evening of the week including weekends; explained how field usage is assigned, first to the
youth organizations and then to others; didn't feel there would be a problem with residents using the
shelter and a field for family events unless there is another tournament at that time; thought the fields
on the north side of Crosstown Boulevard would be available for family events; noted another shelter
on the south end of Sunshine Park plus a volleyball court and horseshoe pit are being planned; has
gotten input from residents through neighborhood groups regarding equipment in their parks; noted
a survey was done regarding the trail system plus one done several years ago; hears from many
residents as he is out in the parks during the summer; noted dogs have not been regulated other than
at Sunshine Park; pointed out the difficulty with having dogs at Sunshine Park because of the noise
and because there are so many people; noted most cities with major complexes do not allow pets in
them; felt most softball tournaments have up to half of the teams from Andover, though in some
cases it depends on how many Andover teams qualifY; stated the outlying fields at Sunshine Park
are generally available for the residents to use; felt the message center that will be put at Sunshine
Park will help people to know what is happening and what is available; explained the trail fund is
planned to be used for the ultimate goal of the trail system to connect Bunker Lake Boulevard to
Kelsey Park and other parks in the City; hears the desire for an ice rink, thinking an indoor rink or
a dome will be needed if the high school is built in Andover; noted ice time has been a big issue in
the past.
Tom Moen - moved to Andover last year; has always been active in activities and in student
government through high school and college; has three children; didn't think one could complain
unless one is involved and he is interested in the parks; is not that familiar with Andover's park
system yet; felt as the City grows, it will be important to remember the need for open spaces; does
not have a problem attending the Thursday evening meetings; is going to remove his application
from the Planning Commission as he is more interested in the Park Board; feels the park behind City
Hall is very inadequate and that it is important to gear parks toward families; felt decisions on
developing active organized park facilities versus passive, nonorganized park facilities should be
based on what the community actually wants, not on what a few vocal people want; would very
much like to serve on any other committee if not chosen for the Commission; chose Andover
because he likes the community and wants to work to keep it a nice place to live; has been a natural
leader and feels leadership is important on committees; is not easily intimidated and is willing to
stand up for what is right; could not think of anything that would result in a conflict of interest.
Dave O'Toole - felt the most important issue facing parks is funding to refurbish the older parks and
to keep up with the growth and provide services for the new residents; would like to see a skate park
and a parks coordinator but all is depending on funding; discussion has been on user fees to help
with the funding issue, possibly for the use of the fields; didn't know how to finance the parks when
development slows and there is a drop in park dedication fees; noted Anoka has a large sum of
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money in the bank and the interest is used for parks; observed bond issues for parks are difficult to
pass, though the City may want to try again in the future; seems people in the urban areas want parks
more than those in the rural areas; pointed out because there is such good participation in organized
sports, Sunshine park is very heavily used, which was the intent of the park; possibly one field could
be left exclusively for neighborhood use; thought one source of revenue may be to charge teams for
tournaments, though that may not bring in much more than to maintain the fields; stated the number
of Andover teams in the state tournament could be none to as many as 8 or 9, depending on how
many teams qualifY; does not belong to any organized sports organizations any more; did belong to
organizations when he started Sunshine Park to provide facilities for the kids of Andover; felt the
Commission tries to provide facilities needed for all people, recognizing that green spaces, picnic
and other recreational activities are what builds the community; foresees parks with wading pools
for children, a fully staffed learning building with activities, arts and crafts, etc.; noted a parks
director would coordinate those activities as well as the 3,500 kids in organized activities; pointed
out much of the scheduling of activities is now being done by the assistant City engineer; thought
the City could start the position of parks director by hiring an intern from February or March through
the summer from 2 or 3 p.m. to 8 p.m.; agreed it may be possible to share a director with another
City.
Richard Klakeg - recently retired from the air force and moved to Andover where his wife was born
and raised; has lived here since April, 1998; doesn't have the 20 years of roots or depth of knowledge
about the City but doesn't bring an agenda either; intends to stay in the community and would like
to put something back into the town to make it a better place; would like to see continued
development of the neighborhood park theme and the community trails, though he hasn't seen the
master plan; would have no problem attending the Thursday evening meetings; has no conflict of
interest; is not familiar enough with the overall long-range goals to comment on what is needed in
the parks but has never seen so many softball leagues in his life; explained his background in the air
force as a planning coordinator and executive officer coordinating multi-agency activities and writing
plans for crisis action teams; felt he could help the Commission come up with an answer that helps
everybody to win; would be willing to serve on other committees if not chosen for the Commission.
Tom Johnson - works in the City's Parks Department; feels the parks are the City's best public
relations tool where people like to go to have a good time; stated the parks are in poor shape needing
new equipment and replacing old equipment; felt it is embarrassing to watch the Park Board
meetings as they and the Council are butting heads; felt the Commission needs to agree with the
Council's decision, as some of their decisions are not well thought out from what he has seen; stated
39 parks in the City have playground equipment and when development stops, the funds will no
longer be coming in; stated they are behind now in replacing old equipment, fences, etc., which are
no longer safe for the children; was frustrated that the Commission did not even investigate the
paving of the Hidden Creek's parking lot when the street project was done, speculating it will be
much more expensive to have it paved in the future; stated the maintenance of Class 5 parking lots
is much higher than paved ones; was also frustrated with the Commission's consideration of
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(Tom Johnson interview, continued)
installing a tile floor in the trophy room of the Concessions Building in Sunshine Park which he felt
was a waste of money because no one uses that room; stated many day care providers take their
children to the Coon Rapids Lions Park which indicates people are willing to drive to a regional park
which has nice equipment; felt more neighborhood parks are not needed as most people have nicer
playground equipment in their own back yards; suggested that money be used to improve regional
parks instead; did not think it would be problem serving on the Commission even though he is a City
employee in the Parks Department; felt the Commission needs more direction and that he could
assist them in understanding what is going on and how long it takes to maintain things; noted he
would be only one voice and the Commission only makes recommendations to the Council; stated
the Commission seems to argue and complain about the Council's decisions, using the issue of park
dedication as an example; would have no problem attending the Commission meetings; pointed out
Kelsey Park is a wonderful nature park that should be expanded upon with trails going to it; felt
parks are nice in the high density areas but are not necessary in the rural areas, nor do those residents
want them.
Joseph Waalk - moved here with his wife a few years ago; is a field trainer, health inspector and
human resources employee for Leeann Chins; applied for the position to get more involved in the
community; has skated at City Hall a few times, used the trails and has driven around the City to
become familiar with the parks; grew up with neighborhood parks and a lot of family involvement
and would like to see that in Andover; noted community nights out with basketball or volleyball and
other activities are great and he would like to see that as the City grows; would like to see more
designated areas away ITom the snowmobiles and traffic on the streets; noted many people do want
parks close by and he would love to see one in his back yard; felt the greatest asset of the park system
is that as a growing community, the neighbors are asked what they want done in the parks; felt the
trails are good but could be better; is going to be interviewed for the Planning Commission opening
as well but would be more interested in Park and Recreation; has a degree in kinesiology
emphasizing in athletic training and sports medicine, feeling the kids need to be actively involved;
would like to see something for the kids open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. where they could paint, play
floor hockey, etc., and parents could play games, socialize, etc.; would not have a problem attending
the Commission meetings; has no conflict of interest; would like to still be involved if not chosen
for the Commission and would be interested in whatever comes up.
Beth Schutz - has worked for Honeywell for 15 years and lived in Andover for 6 years; saw the
advertisement for the opening and wanted to get more exposure as to what Andover is doing; uses
some of the parks, roller blades, walks, bikes; is in favor of more trails and more parks; felt the
biggest issue facing the City is developing the land before the parks can be evaluated and the proper
space provided; wants to join the Commission to evaluate the areas, where the trails and park system
should go; felt there should more awareness of the issues of what is going on with the parks, that the
residents should be more informed through the newsletter and cable TV; would be in favor of more
tennis courts because she plays a lot but also felt there are not enough basketball courts; felt the trail
system seems to be lacking; possibly a nature area like Springbrook can be developed; (Interview
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Park and Recreation Commission Candidates, Continued)
(Beth Schutz interview, continued)
would not have a problem attending the Commission meetings; has no conflict of interest; is an
objective person without a hidden agenda; applied to get more involved in the community; may be
interested in serving on other committees depending on what they are but would really like to get
involved with the parks; has a lot of experience with teens and would be interested in serving on a
resident committee for the community center.
APPOINT TWO PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEMBERS
The Council reviewed the applicants and expressed their choices, finally narrowing the choice of
candidates to those with the most votes through the process of elimination.
(Councilmember Orttel left the meeting at 9:55 p.m., concerned that a seated Commissioner
apparently is not being reappointed and alleging a deal was made outside this Chamber, which is
something he does not agree with.)
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, to reappoint Dave O'Toole and appoint Paul Anderson
as Commissioners, terms to expire December 31, 2002; and to appoint Dave Blackstad as first
alternate and Richard KIakeg as second alternate. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Orttel) vote.
APPOINT CHAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIR FOR YEAR 2000
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to appoint Jim Lindahl as Chairperson and Tom Anderson
as Vice Chair for the Park and Recreation Commission. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Orttel) vote.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Orttel)
vote.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully .s.u~mitted" ,
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Marcèlla A. Peach
Recording Secretary