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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.w.· ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304· (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923
Regular City Council Meeting - Tuesday, January 16,2001 agenda
Call to Order-7:00 PM Bookmark
Resident Forum Name
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes minutes
Consent Items
I. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/99-36/Sunridge dcIr9936
2. Approve Resolution Ordering Preparation of Plans & Specs/01-3/Crack Sealing ord013
3. Approve Resolution Ordering Preparation of Plans & Specs/01-4/Seal Coating ordOl4
4. Approve Quotes/Scanning of Utility As-Builts qtscan
5. Request to Appeal Order/93-30/Bunker Lake Blvd. Frontage Road Assessments appeal9330
6. Hire Full-time Public Works Mechanic mechanic
7. Recycling Agreement with Anoka County recycling
Oæanizational Items
8. Appoint Standing Committees, Continued committees
Discussion Items
9. Anoka County Sheriff Monthly Report/Officer Presentation sheriff
10. Approve Compo Plan Amendment (CPA OO-II)/RU & OS to RM/D.H. Land Company, Continued cpaOOll
II. Approve Rezoning (REZ 00-09)R-4 & R-I to M- I/D.H. Land Company, Continued rezOOO9
12. Approve Special Use Permit (SUP 00-1 7)/PUD/Nature's Run/D.H. Land Company, Continued supOOl7
13. Approve Preliminary PlatlNature's Run/D.H. Land Company, Continued pplatnatures
14. Approve Special Use Permit (SUP 00-18)/Area Identification Sign/D.H. Land Company, ContinuedsupOOl8
15. Fire Marshal Discussion fire
16. Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/00-5/7lh Avenue Area acpt005
17. Accept Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/00-29/Lakeview Terrace & Adjoining Areas acptOO29
18. Approve Request to Pursue Purchasing ParceVAndover Lake andoverlk
19. Discuss Co-cities Community Center/Phase II Feasibility Study/Focus Group/Survey center
20. Approve Amendment to Ordinance No. 258 Regulating Lawful Gambling ord258
Staff Items
21. Schedule Special Meeting - W orkshop/00-15/Water Quality Study mtgOOl5
22. Schedule Board of Review review
Mayor/Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - JANUARY 16,1001
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. I
AGENDA APPROVAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES .................................................. 2
CONSENT AGENDA
Resolution R006-01 declaring cost/Ordering assessment roll/IP99-36/Sunridge ...... 2
Resolution R007-0I ordering plans and specs/IPOI-3/Crack sealing ............... 2
Resolution R008-01 ordering preparation of plans and specs/IPOI-4/Seal coating..... 2
Approve quotes/Scanning of utility as-builts (Cadd/Ængineering Supply) ........... 2
Hire full-time Public Works mechanic (Erick Sohr) ............................ 2
Recycling Agreement with Anoka County . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., 3
APPOINT STANDING COMMITTEES
Motion to approve the Mayor's appointments (Personnel, Public Works, Newsletter) ., 3
JOINT LAW ENFORCEMENT COUNCIL . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . , . . ,. . , . ., 3
ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF MONTHLY REPORT/OFFICER PRESENTATION.. " ., 4
ITEMS 10-14 ON AGENDAlPROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF NATURE'S RUN
Motion to table to next meeting per the developer's request . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 4
FIRE MARSHAL DISCUSSION .............................................. 4
Motion to advertise for full-time Fire Marshal/Funding reviewed by Finance Director . 7
ACCEPT FEASIBILITY REPORT/ORDER PUBLIC HEARING/IPOO-5I7TH A VENUE AREA
Resolution R009-0 I to accept feasibility/Ordering public hearing ................. 7
ACCEPT FEASIBILITY/ORDER PUBLIC HEARING/IPOO-29/LAKEVIEW TERRACE
Resolution RO 10-0 I receiving feasibility/Ordering public hearing ................. 8
REQUEST TO PURSUE PURCHASING PARCEL/ANDOVER LAKE ............... 8
Motion to table to ajoint meeting with the Park Board.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. .. .. 9
DISCUSS CO-CITIES COMMUNITY CENTER/PHASE II/FOCUS GROUP/SURVEY .. 9
Motion to advertise for members of the focus group .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 10
AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 258 REGULATING LAWFUL GAMBLING
Motion to table to a work session. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 10
REQUEST TO APPEAL ORDER/IP93-30/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE
ROAD ASSESSMENTS
Motion to authorize the appeal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . .. I I
SCHEDULE SPECIAL MEETING - WORKSHOP/IPOO-15/w A TER QUALITY STUDY
Motion to schedule workshop for February 13, Public Works Building ............ II
SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW
Motion to schedule Board of Review on April 26 ............................. II
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Agenda items ......................................................... II
Nuisance houses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. II
House File No. 46/Metropolitan Council. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 12
Geotechnical standards . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 12
County temporary building. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . .. 12
Nature's Run development.. . .. .. . .. . . . . . .. . .. . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 12
Access to high school. . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . .. .. . .. . . . .. . . . .. . . . ... .. . . . . . .,. 12
Update on ball fields at the high school. .. . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . .. .. . . . . . . .. . .. 12
PAYMENT OF CLAIMS ................................................... 13
ADJOURNMENT .... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 13
CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JANUARY 16,1001
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache, January 16,2001,7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
Fire Chief, Dan Winkel
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson
Acting City Adrninistrator, Dave Carlberg
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Several Andover parents acknowledged former Mayor Jack McKelvey for his dedication, hard work
and leadership in assisting the community in achieving its goal in getting a high school sited in
Andover. They presented Mr. McKelvey with a framed picture of the ground breaking ceremony
of the high school. Mr. McKelvey stated he hoped the high school will bring community pride. The
effort was the result of the residents and the City Council, and he is happy to see it all coming
together.
Stephanie? . 1755 146th Avenue - moved to Andover three months ago. She received a ticket in
violation of the ordinance for a habitually barking dog. She is concerned v.ith the process and was
shocked to discover that the penalty is not merely the payment of a fine, but she must appear in the
Anoka County court for one to three times to resolve the ticket of a barking dog. It is a misdemeanor
and a waste of everyone's time. It seems ridiculous to her. She asked the Council to consider
changing the ordinance to make the offense payable by fine, which makes more sense. Attorney
Hawkins stated it is a misdemeanor under the City's dog ordinance. He spoke to her about this. It
doesn't affect the City because he is at the court house anyway, but it does impact the property
owner. He explained that while some citations resulting ITom violations of state statutes are payable
by fIne, city ordinance violations are not because there are so many cities with so many ordinances.
In this instance, he could ask the court to make the violation payable, and he predicted the court
would agree. It would still be listed as a misdemeanor. Then the fme could be mailed in without
having to go to court unless the ticket was contested. The City doesn't have the ability to make that
decision on its own. Normally he meets with the individuals before going to court and the issue is
resolved in that manner.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 2
(Resident Forum, Continued)
The Council discussed the procedure and felt some consideration should be given to the first one or
two violations for barking dogs as something less than having to go to court. The change could either
be making it an administrative offense payable to City Hall, or making the first offense a petty
misdemeanor, or asking the court to make the violation payable. Attorney Hawkins stated he can
look at the options and he can ask the court to issue it as a petty misdemeanor on the first offense.
The ordinance would have to be amended.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move (have the Attorney look at options and make
a recommendation). Motion carried unanimously. Attorney Hawkins stated he will file an appeal
in court. Ifthe individual wishes to enter a plea of guilty, it will be certified as a petty misdemeanor.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Remove Item 5, Request to Appeal Order/IP93-30/Bunker Lake Boulevard Frontage Road
Assessments from the Consent Agenda for discussion. Add Item 8a, Joint Law Enforcement
Council. Note Items 10-14 regarding the proposed development of Nature's Run will be tabled per
the developer's request.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to approve the Agenda as amended. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 2,2001, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Trude, to approve the January 2,2001, Minutes as written. Motion
carried unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item I Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/IP99-36/Sunridge (Resolution R006-01)
Item 2 Approve Ordering Preparation of Plans and Specs/IPOI-3/Crack Sealing
(Resolution R007-01)
Item 3 Approve Ordering Preparation of Plans and Specs/IPO 1-4/Seal Coating (Resolution
R008-0 I)
Item 4 Approve Quotes/Scanning of Utility As-Builts (CaddlEngineering Supply - $0.95
per sheet)
Item 6 Hire Full-Time Public Works Mechanic (Erick Sohr)
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 3
(Consent Agenda, Continued)
Item 7 Recycling Agreement with Anoka County
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Consent Agenda as written. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPOINT STANDING COMMITTEES
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the discussion at the Janwuy 2 meeting on the Standing Committees, at which
time it was generally agreed to reduce the committees to Personnel, Public Works as an expansion
of the Road Committee and a Newsletter Committee. The Finance Committee is required by
ordinance but has never met, though there was an Investment Committee established in 1993. Mr.
Dickinson suggested a Finance/Capital Improvement Committee be appointed to help in the process
of establishing a capital improvements program. The intent is to establish a Capital Improvement
Plan along with an operating budget. That program will require more involvement, and he was not
sure the entire Council wished to be involved. If involved, he felt it would be a commitment of one
meeting a month through May.
Because in the past so many of the issues from committees came back to the full Council for
discussion anyway, the Council generally preferred to go through the process as a whole, then decide
after the first meeting whether or not to establish a committee. It was agreed to delay appointment
to the Finance Committee until after the first meeting on the Capital Improvements Program.
Mayor Gamache recommended the following appointments:
Personnel Committee: Ken Orttel (Chair) and Mike Gamache
Public Works Committee: Don Jacobson (Chair) and Ken Orttel
Newsletter Committee: Julie Trude (Chair) and Mike Knight
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to approve the appointments as the Mayor outlined.
Motion carried unanimously.
JOINT LAW ENFORCEMENT COUNCIL
In a letter to the Council, Anoka County Sheriff Podany invited the Mayor and one Councilmember
to discuss the Joint Law Enforcement Council. Mayor Gamache and Councilmember Jacobson
agreed to meet with Sheriff Podany at the meeting on Monday, January 22.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 4
ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF MONTHLY REPORT/OFFICER PRESENTATION
Captain Larry Klink introduced the deputies who will be serving the City of Andover in the year
2001. Each deputy bid on the Andover contract. Councilmember Orttel addressed the deputies,
expressing appreciation for the work they do.
Captain Klink reported on the December, 2000, police activities in Andover. They had 901 calls for
service, which resulted in 724 incident reports. Burglaries are down but there was an increase in
domestic assaults. They had 9 snowmobile calls in November and 6 additional complaints in
December. Most of the complaints are from south of 16lst and some are trespasses on properties.
Councilmember Orttel asked if the types of calls are kept on a data base to be able to show trends
and can the City get that information. Captain Klink stated some will depend on enforcement. As
the population increases, there will be more damage to properties, theft of autos and burglaries.
Andover is a bedroom community with most of its citizens working during the day. They do
continue to watch that. They also try to do preventative patrol as well. Councilmember Orttel was
surprised there isn't more and felt that is a compliment to the Department.
ITEMS 10-14 ON THE AGENDA RELATING TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF
NATURE'S RUN
Mr. Carlberg stated the direction of the Council at the special meeting on January 9 will require some
drastic changes to the plat. The developer needs more time to work through that and to analyze the
impacts. The developer has requested the items be re-scheduled for the February 6, 2001, City
Council meeting.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, that Items 10-14 be tabled until the next regularly
scheduled meeting at the request of the developer. Motion carried unanimously.
FIRE MARSHAL DISCUSSION
Chief Winkel stated the firefighters work with the Sheriff's deputies every day, and he expressed
gratitude for the quality of deputies in Andover. The request from the Fire Department is to advertise
for a full-time Fire Marshal position due to the increase in buildings and all the activities in this area.
He was hired five years ago to do both the Fire Chief and Fire Marshal positions. It is getting more
and more difficult to keep up with both. To guarantee that things are inspected means he has to be
out there, and that means he is out of the office 60 percent of the time when he should be doing
administrative duties. He started requesting this position in 1997 but the Council wanted to wait.
There is a difference between the Fire Chief and Fire Marshal duties. The Fire Chief should
concentrate on administrative details of the Fire Department. There are 50 fire fighters responding
to about 925 incidents, which requires a lot of paperwork, other fire fighting activities and upkeep
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 5
(Fire Marshal Discussion, Continued)
of the vehicles. The Fire Marshal will concentrate on inspections, making sure all facilities in
Andover are built properly and maintained. After the structure is built, the Building Department no
longer has anything to do with it. It is the Fire Marshal that sees that the fire codes are adhered to
for the life of that building. The Department also wants to get more involved with the juvenile fire
issues in Andover. There are eight to twelve young people starting fires a year. There is a juvenile
fire center program in Anoka County, but no one in the Department has time to get involved.
Chief Winkle argued the position is a public safety issue. They do public education and safety
programs, and they would like to continue it; but that has been reduced because there is not enough
Staff available to help. He noted a memo to the Council on a number of options to fund the position.
In addition, the municipalities have the ability to charge for some Fire Marshal activities. Most
Departments do not charge. Blaine/Spring Lake Park charges insurance companies for vehicle
accidents to non-residents. Elk River does the same. He will be researching how much revenue that
could generate for Andover. Me. Dickinson stated the salary steps for the position have been
formulated based on Stanton averages. Starting salary would be $4 I ,000 to $42,000 plus benefits.
Councilmember Trude asked about the possibility of contracting on an hourly rate.
Chief Winkel stated he has not looked for contracting with anyone. He felt there is enough work to
keep this person busy. For the next two to three years, it will take at least two of them to keep up
with everything that is happening, noting the construction of the schools, commercial buildings,
developments, etc. Councilmember Jacobson asked if all businesses and public buildings must be
inspected by the Fire Marshal each year. What about home businesses?
Chief Winkel stated the State Fire Code says inspections must be done on a regular basis. The City
got zero points on its ISO rating for inspections because there is no regular program. There would
not be inspections of home businesses unless the City Council requires them to do so. Currently his
direction from the Council in 1997-1998 was not to inspect home businesses unless there are
complaints from neighbors or Councilor Staff hears of a problem. He would not direct the Fire
Marshal to inspect them unless they had a complaint or serious problem or direction from the
Council. He budgeted for a half-time Fire Marshal, but that person resigned. Councilmember Knight
asked about the fees for plan reviews.
Chief Winkel stated they would be billing for the time they spend on plan reviews, similar to what
the Building and Engineering Departments do. Building permit fees are collected and includes all
the fire inspections, but the Department does not receive those funds. He has not determined what
would be the amount for fire inspections. Mr. Dickinson stated the inspections are part of the permit;
and unless the fees are increased, there would be no increase in revenue to the City. That would only
result in a shifting from one department to another. Councilmember Trude asked about the role of
the State Fire Marshal and inspections of schools. Why is there such a dire need now?
Chief Winkel stated there are a number of people ÍÌ'om the State Fire Marshal that try to get out here,
but they too are understaffed. They do inspections ofthe schools about once every three years. He
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 6
(Fire Marshal Discussion, Continued)
felt they need to get into the schools annually. Every three years is not enough. He has not seen a
report from the State regarding Andover Elementary. It doesn't mean they haven't been there, just
that he isn't aware of it. Chief Winkel also stated they brought this issue up all through the budget
process. He was told to wait until after the election. The part-time person was working 20 hours
a week, and it is a huge loss without that person. Prior to that there were two others working about
30 hours per week. Councilmember Jacobson asked if the Chief thinks the need is a public safety
issue rather than a personnel issue.
Chief Winkel stated absolutely. The Fire Code and making all buildings safe is a public safety issue.
Councilmember Trude stated it is really an issue of additional expenses, wishing the new
administrator was in the position to help the Council decide. There is a lot of balancing of priorities.
Councilmember Jacobson stated this was discussed for the last couple years. He understood the
previous Council had said yes to the position but wanted to wait until the new Council so everyone
could agree. Councilmember Orttel thought he'd like to have input from the new administrator.
Chief Winkel stated this is an extremely busy year, not seeing how he will keep up. Mr. Dickinson
stated Andover has a history of hiring people by putting them on contract. That can be done here
for several years to handle the influx of work. Chief Winkel said it is hard to tell if anyone would
take the position under contract. Other cities hire full time or part time. He didn't know of any that
contract for fire inspections. All Fire Marshals in the metropolitan area are funded out of the General
Fund, He also felt that this is one position that will always be needed. Councilmember Orttel was
concerned with the police powers of this position and getting the right person for it. In that case, a
contract may be worth considering. Possibly the ads for the position could go out now with the
understanding that the new administrator would still have input into the position. Or possibly some
one can be hired on an hourly basis for a short time until the administrator is here. Councilmember
Jacobson argued if the Chief and the Council agree there is a need and it is a public safety issue, they
should take the leadership and proceed. To keep putting this off like they have done the last six
months just to wait for the new administrator to decide is not proper. It will be March before an
Administrator is in place, plus it will take several months to get up to speed. If it is a public safety
issue, why is the Council afraid to do it? Financially, only half of the position for 2001 must be
funded because the other half is already in the budget.
In discussing the possibility of sharing the position, Chief Winkel noted most of the surrounding
cities do have their own Fire Marshals, often more than one in the larger cities. The Council
continued their discussion on what other cities do; deliberating on the best method of establishing
the position; questioning whether the need will go beyond the high growth period; thinking a
contract person would still get benefits but would contract for a period of time similar to what is
being proposed for the administrator position; asking that the revenue source be firmed up but
generally disagreeing with charging fees for inspections; expressing concern with the extend to
which this person would be exercising his/her authority and its impact on businesses, hoping
common sense would prevail and wondering if this is to fill a need for day fire fighters. Mr.
Dickinson noted when discussing the 2001 budget, the funding source from additional fees by
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 7
(Fire Marshal Discussion, Continued)
changing to the 1997 schedule for building fees was to be used for additional staff. If it is used for
the Fire Marshal, there would be none available for the other positions discussed.
Chief Winkel stated it would be their goal to use common sense in enforcing the rules, not to close
businesses. They work with business owners to meet the safety codes. Having another person
available for calls during the day is always a benefit. This person would be doing fire fighter duties,
plus training and EMS calls.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to authorize the Fire Chiefto advertise for a full-time Fire
Marshal with the understanding that the City Council and the new City Administrator would have
the ability to interview the applicants with the Fire Chief and assist in the selection of the appropriate
person. DISCUSSION: Councilmember Orttel preferred that the City Administrator have a greater
consideration in this. He felt that making this decision within weeks of hiring a new administrator
may not give him the confidence he/she wants. Councilmember Jacobson again argued that this has
been discussed repeatedly. It is a public safety issue, and he felt it hard to believe that a new
administrator would disagree with that in the first weeks of hislher tenure. The administrator can
make a recommendation on a contract person, but a full-time Fire Marshal is needed now. By the
time this person is hired, there will be enough money in the budget to get through this year. Salary
and funding would be subject to the budget next year. He is fiscally conservative; but the Fire Chief
is saying this is a public safety issue, so if something happens, he would say the Council is not doing
their job.
Councilmember Jacobson added to the motion "with funding based on review of the Finance
Director upon hiring." Second Stands. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-No (Orttel -- not against the
position but preferring to wait until the new administrator is in place) vote.
ACCEPT FEASIBILITY REPORT/ORDER PUBLIC HEARING/IP00-5/7TH A VENUE AREA
Motion by Jacobson to approve the Resolution. Motion dies for lack of a Second.
Mr. Erickson stated the streets in the area are in tough shape. Before overlaying, the proposal is to
meet with the neighborhood prior to the public hearing to discuss municipal utilities and costs and
to receive input. This is a City-driven project for improvements, not a petition project. They
definitely want resident input before proceeding.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to reinitiate the motion. (Resolution R009-01 receiving
feasibility report and calling for public hearing on improvements of 2000 street and utility
reconstruction, IPOO-5 in the 7th Avenue Area) Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 8
ACCEPT FEASIBILITY REPORT/ORDER PUBLIC HEARING/IPOO-19/LAKEVIEW
TERRACE AND ADJOINING AREAS
Mayor Gamache stated this is his neighborhood; so when it comes time to vote on the project itself,
he will abstain. Mr Erickson explained they will hold informal meetings with the neighborhood
prior to the public hearing to go over the proposal and cost estimates. This is a petitioned project
of35 percent for water. The area was also previously identified for the street overlay program. The
assessments for water would be levied, but the time of actual connection is up to the resident. There
is also a procedure in place for deferring assessments based on the income level. The portion of
Gladiola immediately south of Bunker Lake Boulevard and 135th Lane are 22 feet wide. The intent
would be to widen them to 28 feet, which is close to the City's standard. He wants to review that
with the neighbors as well and review options. They looked at water without the street
improvements, but the residents would then pay for half of the street replacement. The proposal is
to use street overlay funds for the street work. There will also be a small storm sewer cost. In
addition, the Sloth property could be subdivided into four residential lots. He will be meeting with
the owners to discuss the assessment, as it is quite substantial.
Mayor Gamache asked about the connection to water on the comer lots of Crooked Lake Boulevard.
Mr. Erickson stated they would work with the individual property owners and try to get in close to
their wells. In some cases it may be closer to connect from the line coming down the street; others
may be served from Crooked Lake Boulevard, whichever is more economical They would have to
look at each lot to determine whether the water assessment would be from this project or from the
Crooked Lake Boulevard project.
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, the Resolution (Resolution ROIO-OI receiving feasibility
report and calling public hearing on improvements of watermain and streets, IPOO-29 in the
Lakeview Terrace and Adjoining Areas.) Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE REQUEST TO PURSUE PURCHASING PARCEVANDOVER LAKE
The Council discussed the request from the Park and Recreation Commission to purchase Outlot A
in Old Colony Estates from the Coon Creek Watershed District, as they are interested in having a
fishing pier constructed at Andover Lake with trails connecting to it from the adjoining
neighborhood. The Coon Creek Watershed was not receptive to an agreement to have a fishing
pier there but instead preferred selling the parcel to the City.
Winslow Holasek stated there are property owners who fish in Andover Lake. At one time it was
stocked with fish, but he didn't know what is there now. This is a regional pond. Who would be
responsible for its maintenance if the City buys this parcel? The pond is very deep and constructed
in stages. He was at the watershed meeting when this Was discussed, and the consensus he received
was that they didn't want the liability of a pier.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 9
(Request to Pursue Purchasing Parcel/Andover Lake, Continued)
The Council was also concerned with accepting maintenance of Andover Lake, the liability and cost
of a pier, with a park along Andover Boulevard because it is a very narrow, busy street and the lack
of parking for anyone coming there from outside the neighborhood. Mr. Carlberg suggested this
item be discussed at a joint meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission after the new
Commissioners have been appointed. The Council agreed.
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to table the purchase of the parcel on Andover Lake until a
joint meeting with the Park Board and City Council. Motion carried unanimously,
DISCUSS CO-CITIES COMMUNITY CENTER/PHASE II FEASIBILITY STUDY/FOCUS
GROUP/SURVEY
Mr. Carlberg outlined the letter from Steve Erickson, BWBR Architects, on the next steps to be
taken for the second phase of the feasibility study for the co-cities community center. Phase 2 is to
establish a focus group, who will tailor a survey being prepared by Leisure Vision to the City. It is
suggested the focus group consist of seven to ten people. The time fuune suggested by Mr. Erickson
is very short, though he has explained to Mr. Erickson that the City would not be able to meet that
time line. He asked the Council to consider the make up of the focus group and then ways to solicit
people. The study originally started with the Cities of Anoka, Ramsey and Andover and the school
district. Both the school district and the City of Anoka have dropped out, though Anoka might be
willing to provide some dollars if their residents receive a benefit. The Council agreed to proceed
with the survey with Ramsey even though it may be shelved. Mr. Carlberg made it clear that
establishing the focus group and doing the survey does not commit the City to a community center,
nor does it mean the City will go beyond that. This is information gathering only to find out what
the people are thinking and to get ideas.
Mr. Carlberg continued finding a location for a community center if both Ramsey and Andover
proceed will be an issue. When the City of Anoka was involved, the thought was a good location
for the center would be where the new library is now off Bunker Lake Boulevard and 7th Avenue.
Location may be an issue for the focus group to look at. As far as he knows, Ramsey is still
interested. The funding for this phase has already been allocated. It has been an on-going process
and this is just gathering information, which would not involve the new City Administrator at this
point. He expected the new Andover Today would have an invitation for members to the focus
group and the process begun prior to the start of a new administrator.
The Council was concerned that the focus group not be an advocacy group. Mr. Carlberg stated
definitely not, it is a fact finding, advisory group which will be reviewing the survey by Leisure
Vision and tailoring it to Andover. Once the cities finalize the survey, Leisure Vision will mail it
out to the residents.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 10
(Discuss Co-Cities Community Center/Phase 11 Feasibility Study/Focus Group/Suvey, Continued)
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to advertise in the next Andover newsletter for individuals
to be part of a focus group to study this joint city community center project; we will appoint ten
members. DISCUSSION: In response to Council concerns, Me. Carlberg again stated the money
has been authorized. It will be made clear in the newsletter that this is just a surveying process, and
he will fax the Council the article to be put in the newsletter so the Council is comfortable with it
before publication. The Council asked that the focus group also ask questions that are unrelated to
Ramsey, such as about an ice arena or dome. Also, the possibility of proceeding without Ramsey
should be considered.
Jack McKelvey explained the survey was discussed at the last meeting with the Ramsey City
Council. This is the second phase to find out if the people would support it. At that time Ramsey
stated they may be interested in doing it themselves. That is why there will be a focus group for each
city. They want to find out if the people would still support it. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 158 REGULATING LAWFUL GAMBLING
Councilmember Jacobson noted the ordinance did not go through the Planning and Zoning
Commission. With the many changes proposed and because of some concerns he has and conflicts
in it, he suggested the item be referred to the P & Z for their consideration and recommendation.
Councilmember Trude stated it looks like more groups would have an opportunity for pull tabs,
including groups ITom outside the City. She didn't think the goals of outside organizations are the
same as the City's. It is a substantial change. Councilmember Knight felt the high school changes
the goals of the City on this issue.
Discussion was on Page 3, Section 5, where Councilmember Jacobson felt Items bl, 2 and 3 were
a catch 22. Councilmember Orttel disagreed but thought this activity is controlled by the state
statute. Attorney Hawkins advised there are a number of regulations relating to gambling, so the
City does not have cart blanche to do anything it wants. He can give an outline of the state
regulations on gambling and what the City can do in terms of regulating this activity. Mr. Carlberg
suggested this be discussed at a workshop after receiving the information from the City Attorney.
The Council also suggested that the League of Minnesota Cities be contacted
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to table the discussion of the gambling ordinance to the next
available work session. Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 11
REQUEST TO APPEAL ORDER/IP93-30/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE ROAD
ASSESSMENTS
Councilmember Jacobson asked the Attorney if this appeal would be worth while. Attorney
Hawkins felt it is based on the results and findings of the judge. The dollar amounts are clear, and
there is a substantial amount of risk. He was confident it is a legal acquisition, and the cost of
pursuing this appeal is only about $7,500 to $9,500. He felt they can make a legal argument to the
Court of Appeals that the court made an error in its decision. The issue is the method of calculation
of benefits and how to look at the parcels.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to authorize Staff to proceed with the appeal. Motion
carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE SPECIAL MEETING - WORKSHOP/IPOO-15IWATER QUALITY STUDY
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to schedule a workshop on Tuesday, February 13, 7 o'clock,
Public Works Building, water quality study. Motion carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to set April 26 for the Board of Review, 7 o'clock. Motion
carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Agenda items - Councilmember Orttel suggested when items are pulled from the Consent Agenda
that they be discussed immediately after approval of the Consent Agenda rather than at the end of
the discussion items. The Council agreed.
Nuisance houses - Councilmember Orttel brought up the frustration of residents when things go on
at a neighboring house that affect the entire neighborhood such as possible illegal activities in the
house, cars coming and going at all hours, parking on the yards, lack of maintenance on the house
and in the yards, etc. There are many calls to the police, but there is only so much they can do.
Often the owner does not live in the house. He asked for suggestions on what can be done. Often
times residents will move because of the frustration. He is also hearing more and more about housing
standards in terms of disrepair. Many houses are starting to age; and if they are not taken care of,
it becomes a blighted neighborhood. He did not want to see that happen in Andover.
Councilmember Trude stated when they had that issue in Mounds View, they started enforcing the
nuisance ordinance for housing codes. Those people don't like others showing up all the time
writing things down and issuing citations. The procedure was used in St. Paul quite successfully.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 12
(Mayor/Council Input, Continued)
Councilmember Knight noted there are two issues, one of neglect and one of illegal activities. Mr.
Carlberg stated the City does license rental units, but not single family homes. The City also has the
ability through code enforcement zoning to cite some of these items, but it hasn't been enforced.
Maybe the City is at that point where there should be enforcement before the neighborhoods
deteriorate. He stated they need to look at the ordinances again to address the issues raised by
Councilmember Orttel.
Jack McKelvey stated the City does have an ordinance holding the owner of the property responsible,
and several times the Building Department contacted the owners about issues they were not even
aware of. The owners did make the necessary repairs.
House File No. 46/Metropolitan Council- Councilmember Jacobson suggested the Staff be directed
to draft a letter for the Mayor to sign in support of the file to change the Metropolitan Council. The
Council agreed, suggesting the City's State representatives be contacted as well.
Geotechnical standards - Councilmember Jacobson stated Mr. Erickson has suggested that when
using a geotechnical report, perhaps the threshold should be raised from three to four feet. He
suggested that be discussed at a future work session.
County temporary building - The Council discussed the county's suggestion to construct a temporary
cold storage building, hoping the negotiations would include the traffic signal at Andover Boulevard
and Crosstown Boulevard in time for the high school opening. They felt they could work with the
county regarding both of those issues.
Nature's Run development - Mayor Gamache suggested the Council look at the townhome
development on the southeast corner of Hanson Boulevard and Highway 242 with all the pine trees.
One of the concerns he saw with Nature's Run is how close it is to Hanson Boulevard and the loss
of trees. Under a PUD, one of the benefits the City could require is a barrier of trees between the
buildings and the road. Mr. Carlberg stated Staff will look at the Tree Protection Plan. Under the
PUD the Council has the flexibility to require additional conifer plantings to help screen the area.
Access to the high school- Councilmember Trude was concerned with the pedestrian accesses being
provided to the new high school. Andover Boulevard is narrow with no shoulders east of Hanson
Boulevard. Consideration of walkers to the new elementary school should also be reviewed. Mr.
Erickson stated as part of the work, they will be looking at sidewalks between Hanson Boulevard
and Crosstown along Andover Boulevard on the north side. He will bring the issue of a trail east of
Hanson Boulevard to the Park Board. They will be relying on the school district on the need for
trails in the area of the new elementary school.
Update on ball fields at the high school - Councilmember Knight reported the task force has hit a
road block in that the school district is saying their water system cannot handle the irrigation of the
City's proposed four ball fields. Mr. Carlberg stated a meeting has been scheduled with experts to
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 16, 2001
Page 13
(Mayor/Council1nput, Continued)
discuss this issue. All options are being evaluated and explored do see what can be done. The next
task force meeting is scheduled for January 24.
PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 10:11 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Marcella A. Peach
Recording Secretary