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Special City Council Meeting - Thursday, April 19, 2001
Call to Order- Following EDA Meeting scheduled for 7:00 PM
Discussion Items
I. Discuss Comprehensive Plan Issues
2. Other Business
Adjournment
CITY of ANDOVER
ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - APRIL 19, 2001
MINUTES
A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike Gamache on
April 19, 2001, 9:36 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, John Erar
Others
DISCUSS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ISSUES
Mr. Carlberg explained the final issue on the Comprehensive Plan is a request by the Metropolitan
Council staff for the projected sewer flows for the final build out of the urban service area so they
can determine the Coon Rapids Interceptor capacity versus the CAB Interceptor. They need 1,000
acres to build the CAB, but the City would be able to service the area through the Coon Rapids
Interceptor with a lift station. Right now the City's policy is the 2020 line is the 2040 line, and lift
stations are allowed for infill but not to increase the sewer extension. The City allows lot splits in
the area that will ultimately be served with municipal sewer, but the Metropolitan Council staff is
not comfortable with that. They want to see a 2040 line, and they want the land use restricted to I
for 40. The City has said it will not encumber that property, The City is not recognizing anything
outside the 2020 line which can all be served by gravity flow.
Mr. Carlberg stated they met with the Metropolitan Council staff again today. He proposed instead
of Andover looking at the ultimate MUSA, that they tell the City what capacity they have left in the
Coon Rapids Interceptor after the area within the 2020 boundary is fully developed. Knowing that
acreage, the City can look at what area it wants to pick up for urban development. They have agreed
to do that.
Councilmember Orttel stated the City is not capable of predicting out to 2040. With the changing
technology, it is not possible to predict that far out. He also did not want to limit options. It may
be that some day the low agricultural areas east of Round Lake Boulevard may be developed into
another Deacon's Walk, a development in Blaine where they dug out the peat. Mr. Carlberg stated
the Metropolitan Council staff would also like to see those areas in Agricultural Preserve be left that
way permanently. Staffhas said the City will not do that. The Ag Preserve designation will control
that property, but the property owner has the right to decertifY, which takes an eight-year period of
time.
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(Discussion Comprehensive Plan Issues, Continued)
Councilmember Trude noted the only way to extend Andover Boulevard west to Round Lake
Boulevard would be to provide municipal sewer for housing. Mr. Erar stated the Council needs to
decide what it wants for that area. Is it the intent to preserve that land as agriculture permanently or
to provide future planning for the highest and best use? For the farms, he thought the Council would
want to retain their options as property owners. Councilmember Orttel felt everyone wants to protect
what is out there. His concern is tying up the land for 40 years is a confiscation issue.
Councilmember Knight agreed, plus the residents are adamantly opposed to any urban development
north of the present line at 161 st.
Mr. Erar suggested the Council keep its options open regarding the CAB Interceptor. At this point
all indications are the people in the western portion of the City want to retain the current size of their
lots. But by asking for the ability to connect to the CAB in the future, it provides Andover with
future planning opportunities to provide property owners to either retain their property as is or to
decide to develop into a higher density. Some Councilmembers were concerned that asking to keep
options open regarding the CAB would mean the City would be forced to develop at higher densities.
Mr. Erar didn't think so. The City would not be interested in it at the current time, but it should keep
its options open. The only way this would become higher density is if the people petitioned for it.
In terms of planning, it is a greater benefit to the community to keep that option open to allow the
property owners to decide whether they want to create an urbanized area there. The City is trying
to maintain a vision but give flexibility to deal with changes as the community continues to grow.
Mr. Carlberg noted the CAB would not be brought across the river unless there are 1,000 acres that
can be developed. By keeping it in the plan, it doesn't mean it will be constructed but that it could
be if there is a need some day in the future. The Metropolitan Council Staff is exploring options of
going through Anoka rather than using the CAB. If Andover is interested in continuing to go up the
Hanson Boulevard corridor and the Coon Rapids Interceptor is full, it could potentially shift to the
west side of the City through the CAB if that option is kept open. He stated when the City gets the
calculations from the Metropolitan Council consultants, Staff will look at it and come back to the
Council.
The Council discussed the philosophies of high density, that growth is not always in the City's best
interest, the inability to plan for 40 years from now with any accuracy because of changing
technology, the desire to keep options open for property owners and the desire of many to retain the
rural character as proposed. They generally supported reserving the option of the CAB Interceptor
as long as there would be no restrictions placed on the City's development as a result. They also
agreed to wait for the calculations ITom the Metropolitan Council on the number of acres that would
be available for development through the Coon Rapids Interceptor.
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OTHER BUSINESS
Coon Rapids Development/East of Hanson Boulevard - Mayor Gamache has heard the area east of
Hanson Boulevard in Coon Rapids will be developed into mostly single family homes with town
homes. A State Aid street is being proposed ITom Highway 242 to 133rd. He thought there may be
some openness to expanding Hanson Boulevard as well. The Highway 10 coalition is seriously
looking at getting involved. They want to see Hanson Boulevard widened north of Highway 10. Mr.
Carlberg understood MNDot, Anoka County and the City of Coon Rapids are funding additional
improvements to the intersection of Hanson Boulevard and Highway 10. He talked with the
Community Development Director in Coon Rapids and suggested the Council may want to hold a
joint meeting with the Coon Rapids City Council on these improvements.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 10:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary