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Regular City Council Meeting - May 21, 2002
Call to order - 7:00 PM
1. Resident Forum
2. Agenda Approval
3. Approval of Minutes (5/1/02Spec. Joint CC/Sports Complex Task Force) (5/7/02 Reg. Council)
Consent Items
4. Approve Payment of Claims - Finance
5. Approve Change Order #l/01-2/Ball Field Facility-West of High School/Irrigation - Engineering
6. Modify Depository Resolution/US Bank - Finance
7. Call General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1999C - Finance
8. Call General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1997B - Finance
9. Approve Release Letter of Credit #298/Special Assessments/98-34/Chesterton.Commons 3'd Add. -
Finance
10. Award Bid/99-15/W ater Treatment Plant - Engineering
I I. Approve Plans & Specs/02-7/Hidden Creek North Park/2002 CIP - Engineering
12. Award Bid/00-5N2002 Mill & Overlayn"' Avenue Area - Engineering
13. Approve Change Order #1 (Compensating)/00-16/Grey Oaks (Phase II) - Engineering
14. On-Sale Intoxicating & Sunday Liquor Licenseffanner's Steakhouse - Clerk
15. Approve Raffle/Bingo Permit/Fun Fest - Clerk
16. Approve Refuse Hauler Licenses - Clerk
17. Approve Sale of Used Equipment/Public Works - Public Works
Discussion Items
18. Receive Anoka County Sheriff Department Monthly Report - Sheriff
19. Response to Skateboard Park Conduct Concerns - Administration
20. Approve Authorization to Obtain Quotes/01-5/Skate Park Equipment, Continued - Engineering
21. Bond Sale/2002 G.O. Water Revenue Bonds/Water Treatment Plant - Finance
22. Presentation of2001 Audit - HLB Tautges Redpath - Finance
23. Receive Feasibility ReportJOI-13Nerdin Street Trail- Engineering
24. Order Trail ImprovementJO 1-21/Hanson Blvd. & Crosstown Blvd. Intersection - Engineering
Staff Items
25. Schedule 2003 Council Budget Workshop, Continued - Administration
26. Schedule Public Information Meeting/Community Center - Administration
Mayor/Council
a. Research New School Board District Lines - Clerk
Adjournment
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM ................................................................................................................. 1
AGENDA APPROV AL............................................................................................................. 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES......................................................................................................2
CONSENT ITEMS
Approve Payment of Claims ................................................................ ... ...................... ....... 2
Resolution R078-02 Approve Change Order # 1/0 1-2/Ball Field Facility-West of High
Schoo lIIrrigation ............................................................................................................. 2
Resolution R079-02 Modify Depository ResolutionlUS Bank............................................ 2
Resolution R080-02 Call General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1999C ................... 2
Resolution R081-02 Call General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1997B .................... 2
Approve Release of Letter of Credit $298/Special Assessments/Project #98-34/
Chesterton Commons 3'd Addition ................................................................................. 2
Resolution R082-02 Award Bidl99-l5/Water Treatment Plan!........................................... 2
Resolution R083-02 Approve Plans & Specs/02-7/Hidden Creek North Park!
2002 CIP .............. ...... .... ... .......... .............................................................................. ...... 2
Resolution R084-02 Award BidlOO-5N2002 Mill & Overlay/7th Avenue Area .................2
Resolution R085-02 Approve Change Order #1 (Compensating)/00-16/Grey Oaks
(Phase II) ......................................................................................................................... 2
On-Sale Intoxicating & Sunday Liquor License/Tanner's Steakhouse................................ 2
Approve Raffle/Bingo PermitlFun Fest ............................................................................... 2
Approve Refuse Hauler Licenses ..................... .............................................................. ...... 2
Approve Sale of Used EquipmentlPublic Works................................................................. 2
RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT
Received........... .................................................... .................... ..... ................................. ....... 3
RESPONSE TO SKATE BOARD PARK CONDUCT CONCERNS
Motion to .approve.................................................. ... '" ........................ ... ........ ..................... 4
Amended Motion to approve ................................................................................................ 4
APPROVE AUTHORIZATION TO OBTAIN QUOTES/01-5/SKATE PARK
EQUIPMENT, CONTINUED
Motion to approve ................................................................. ................................................ 9
BOND SALE/2002 GENERAL OBLIGATION WATER REVENUE BONDS
Resolution No. 086-02 to approve........................................................................................ 11
PRESENTATION OF 2001 AUDIT - HLB T AUTGES REDPATH
Motion to receive......................... .................................................................... ..................... 12
RECEIVE FEASIBILITY REPORT/OI-13NERDIN STREET TRAIL
Resolution R087-02 Motion to approve .............................................................................. 13
ORDER TRAIL IMPROVEMENT/01-21/HANSON BOULEVARD & CROSSTOWN
BOULEVARD INTERSECTION
Resolution R088-02 Motion to approve ............................................................................... 16
SCHEDULE 2003 COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP .......................................................... 17
SCHEDULE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS - COMMUNITY CENTER ................ 17
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MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Research New School Board District Lines.......................................................................... 18
Letter in Regards to Wetland ................................................................................................ 18
Reschedule Executive Session
Motion to reschedule............................................................. ............. .......... .............. ...... 18
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Phone Call from Mr. And Mrs. Knox................................................................................... 18
Park Commission Funds ... ...................................................... ... ..................................... ...... 18
Phosphorus Bill..................................................................................................................... 19
Memorial Services ........ ....... ...................................................................... ..................... ...... 19
ADJOURNMENT...................................................................................................................... 19
CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MA Y 11, 1001
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting ofthe Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache, May 21,2002,7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William Hawkins
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson
City Administrator, John Erar
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Keith Rischer- 16157 Hanson Boulevard NW, stated he had never been to a City Council meeting
and asked if there was a discussion item, would it be addressed during the discussion or now.
Councilmember Orttel stated it would be discussed when the item was brought up in the meeting.
AGENDA APPROVAL
More infonnation was added to Item 21 but no items were changed on the agenda.
Councilmember Jacobson stated they had an email from an individual regarding helping with the
construction of a building at Prairie Oak Park and he wondered if they should discuss it at the
rneeting. Councilmember Orttel stated he thought it should first go to the Park Cornmission to see
where it would fit into the scheme. Mr. Erar suggested they add that as part of the CIP process for
2003 to the agenda for June 4, 2002. Councilmember Jacobson stated the individual was talking
about this year. Mr. Erar stated they could put it on the June 4, 2002 agenda.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to approve the Agenda as amended. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 1, 2002, Special Joint City Council/Sports Complex Task Force Meeting: Correct as written.
May 7, 2002, Regular Meeting: As amended.
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Councilmember Trude stated she would like to make a change to the May 7th minutes. She stated a
change should be made to page 7, under the heading "Call For Bond Sale On Water Revenue". She
asked a question about how this impacts residents and the sentence should be rephrased. "She asked
ift¡¡¡¡payers dBllRrs wOllld be ased" and it should read, ".. .ifpropertv taxes would be used."
Councilmember Jacobson stated on page 10, under the motion on the liquor ordinance he would like
the following statement added for the record, "The onlvreason he voted for that was that it was more
restrictive than what thev alreadv had."
MOTlONby Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of Minutes as amended above. Motion carried
unanimously.
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 4 Approve Payment of Claims
Item 5 Approve Change Order #1/01-2/Ball Field Facility-West of High Schoo1!Irrigation
(See Resolution R07S-02)
Item 6 Modify Depository Resolution/US Bank (See Resolution R079-02)
Item 7 Call General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1999C (See Resolution ROSO-02)
Item S Call General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1997B (See Resolution ROSI-02)
Item 9 Approve Release of Letter of Credit #29S/Special AssessmentslProject #9S-
34/Chesterton Commons 3rd Addition
Item 10 Award Bid/99-15/Water Treatment Plant (See Resolution ROS2-02)
Item 11 Approve Plans & Specs/02-7/Hidden Creek North Park/2002 ClP (See Resolution
ROS3-02)
Item 12 Award Bid/00-5A12002 Mill & Overlayl7,h Avenue Area (See Resolution ROS4-02)
Item 13 Approve Change Order #1 (Compensating)/00-16/Grey Oaks (Phase II) (See
Resolution ROS5-02)
Item 14 On-Sale Intoxicating & Sunday Liquor Licenserranner's Steakhouse
Item 15 Approve Raffle/Bingo Permit/Fun Fest
Item 16 Approve Refuse Hauler Licenses
Item 17 Approve Sale of Used EquipmentlPublic Works
Councilmember Trude stated she had a concern with the water treatment plant bid and wanted to
know if they were awarding only the partial bid because the watermain part ofthe bid did not come
in yet. Mr. Erickson stated that was just the award for the water treatment plant itself and the water
main portion would be brought back at the next Council meeting. Councilmember Trude stated she
was satisfied with that.
MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion
carried unanimously.
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RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT
Commander Dave King, Anoka County Sheriffs Department, provided an update on law
enforcement activities occurring within Andover.
Councilmember Trude stated she had fi-equently been at OakView School at dismissal time and was
concerned with the close calls with the crossing guard holding the crossing sign. She stated she saw
a cement truck go through her stop sign with children crossing and then the next day an extended cab
truck made a right turn in the turn lane as children were crossing every way. She stated she was
concerned with the safety ofthe crossing guard and the children because the crossing guard goes out
into the middle of traffic with cars continuing to move around her and the children. Councilmember
Trude stated she had not seen a CSO there in three weeks and she would like Commander King to
assign a CSO at the intersection.
Councilmember Trude asked if Commander King could talk to Chuck Holden with the Safety
Committee and see ifthey could get the crossing guard a longer, bigger stop sign. Another thing she
had witnessed was children weaving in and out of traffic in the parking lot.
Commander King stated that they had anticipated that from the beginning and he would talk to
Chuck Holden regarding this and other issues regarding crossing, speed and other violations. He
stated he would get out some directed patrol activity for that particular intersection. He stated this is
still an education process that takes time. Councilmember Trude stated the residents were confused
about why they needed to go so slow during the entire school day.
Councilmember Knight asked if they had prep signs a half-mile ahead. Commander King stated they
put out fluorescent green signs to advise school zone changes and a little farther down they have a
sign with an orange flag. Councilmember Knight asked if the signs were large. Mayor Gamache
stated that the signs were noticeable with bright red flags. Commander King stated the main
problem was the speed of the motorists.
Councilmember Trude stated that everyone should realize that when the crossing guard goes into the
intersection, everyone needs to stop and wait. Commander King stated he would need to check into
this and see if when they are stopping traffic north/southbound Hanson Boulevard if Crosstown
needs to stop. Councilmember Trude stated they needed to find out how they wanted the crossing
guards to operate because she goes into the middle of the intersection to allow children to cross all
ways.
Councilmember Orttel stated that hopefully the new intersection would be in by the time school
starts in the fall. Councilmember Trude stated she did not know how that would work because the
traffic would be approaching the intersection faster because they would not be anticipating a stop.
Commander King thought they would be at an adequate interval to allow pedestrian crossing.
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Mayor Gamache asked if a crossing guard has the same authority as a bus driver to write down
violators and report them. Commander King stated they did but he did not think that the crossing
guard understood they could do this.
Councilmember Knight stated there were students in the audience and thanked them for coming.
They were welcome anytime.
RESPONSE TO SKATE BOARD PARK CONDUCT CONCERNS
Mr. Erar explained that at the May 7, 2002 City Council meeting, questions were raised regarding the
use of the skate board park in the context of Council determining whether additional skate board
park equipment should be purchased to allow for an expansion of use of the facility. In particular,
issues such as user conduct, contacts with the Sheriffs Office and City staff, failure by users to
observe park safety rules, cost of staffing the skate board park and, finally, clarification regarding
how violations are handled through the juvenile prosecution system have been raised.
Mr. Erar stated a preliminary cost analysis of staffing the facility from May 10 through August 30 is
estimated at approximately $9,000 for the season. Calculations are based on Monday-Friday 4:00-
8:00 p.m. through June 7, after June th until August 30th, hours would be expanded and begin at
12:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. Weekend supervision would begin at 10:00 a.m. until 8:00 p.m. The
Park Commission did review this issue and did not recommend staffing due to budgetary
considerations and the fact that skate board parks at this level of operation do not typically employ
park supervisors.
Mr. Erar stated the information provided is in response to Council inquiries and is intended to
provide Council with some additional background material with respect to whether additional funds
should be expended to expand the use ofthe skate board park at this time.
Commander King stated that they had been doing DP A (directed patrol activities). They have a lot of
issues with the kids using the park not abiding by the posted rules. They have asked the kids to abide
by the rules and the kids do what they are told until the Community Service Officer leaves and then
the kids do not abide by the rules.
Commander King stated the rules were not being followed by the kids and in order to rnake sure the
rules were abided by the Council would need to have an attendant at the park because the CSO could
not be there all the time. Councilmember Trude asked if there are behavioral issues that are drawing
the CSO to the park. Commander King stated that they had not received many calls regarding
behavioral issues; it was mostly by DP A requests.
Officer Justin Miller, Community Services, stated when they go there the kids are respectful to them
and parents are at the park telling the kids they need to put on helmets but the kids will not listen to
them so they then have to tell the CSOs the problems. He stated that it is usually the parents that ask
the kids to abide by the rules and wear their helmets and that is when there is abusive language. The
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kids are more abusive to the parents. He stated that there was nothing they could do about the
problems because there was not an ordinance.
Councilmember Trude asked how often they have to visit there on their shift. He stated they usually
stop by there two to three times in a six-hour shift for fifteen to thirty minutes at a time.
Councilmember Trude asked ifthey had witnessed any abusive language or was it just information
from the parents. Officer Miller stated that when they do go to the park the kids are very respectful
but when they leave the kids are disrespectful to the parents and even some of the parents were not
following the rules, telling the kids it was ok not to wear their helmets.
Officer Landes stated that she had been at the park a week ago for a meeting to talk to residents.
One out often kids was wearing their helmet, and they were jumping fences and riding their bikes
where they should not be and doing other things the kids were not supposed to be doing. They were
doing this until the marked CSOs appeared and then they put on their helmets and that was when the
CSOs had a talk with the kids regarding the rules.
Councilmember Trude asked ifthey had any suggestions for the Skate Board Park Committee. She
wanted to know if it would be helpful to hire an attendant at the park. Officer Landes felt they
should hire an attendant to monitor the activity and make sure the rules are followed. They would
need an attendant to be in a uniform and will continually enforce the rules.
Councilmember Knight asked how many kids were at the park at one time. Officer Miller stated
around 4:00 p.m. there are between 12 and 20 kids and in the evening around 30.
Councilmember Trude asked if there were more kids at the park once school was out. Officer Miller
stated that there would be around 40 to 50 kids during the summer.
Commander King stated that an attendant would be helpful because they would be there the entire
time to monitor and make sure the kids followed the rules. Councilmember Jacobson asked if their
park was unique because he did not hear of any other cities having an attendant. Commander King
stated he did not know if there were other cities with these problems but Grace Lutheran Church did
have an attendant at their skate park.
Councilmember Trude stated she had heard from the Chairman ITom the Park Commission that if
they gave the kids more equipment, they would behave. She wanted to know if Commander King
had heard of this. Cornmander King stated he would assume it would be the opposite and attract
more kids and bad behavior.
Mr. Rischer, 16157 Hanson Boulevard NW, stated that he wanted to highlight a few items and read
for the record the following from his letter to the Council. "As a parent of children who actively
utilize the skate park and a member of the Parents Advisory Task Force, I would like to share my
thoughts regarding delaying the acquisition of the Tier I half pipe for the existing skate park. The
board has gone on record stating its reluctance to acquire the half pipe due to noncompliance of some
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of the boarders who do not follow the rules, including those not wearing helmets. Why is the board
willing to punish everyone who uses the skate park, including my own children who follow the rules,
instead of dealing with the kids who are not following the rules? Instead, please provide a complete
skate park that is a worthy of our city, or have none at all. Don't build a skate park and leave it
incomplete. A half pipe is the focus of most boarders and is essential to any Tier I skate park that
has been built in the metro area."
Mr. Rischer went on to state "The board needs to realize that unfortunately the community standard
for helmet usage has been optional and not enforced. The closest Tier I skate park built a few years
ago at Sand Creek in Coon Rapids has not been enforced in any way, although the expectation is
posted. Helmet usage is rare to nonexistent and there is no attendant or CSO who enforces the rules.
If Andover chooses to enforce the posted rules, (as an Emergency Room RN, I agree helmet usage is
an excellent public health policy.) Please realize that it will take time for kids to receive and act
upon this expectation based on their experience at Sand Creek, but it can be done. I propose the
following recommendations for the city council to consider and act upon. One is to approve the
purchase of the Tier I half pipe to complete the skate park as started last year as soon as possible and
the second is to educate those who use the skate park of the expectations of rule compliance.
Consider the following timetable and ideas. Two weeks before the half pipe is placed publish and
distribute a flier to inform those who use the skate park and to parents that are present that a half pipe
is coming and the strict expectations including helmet usage for admission to the park. 1 am willing
to distribute this daily."
Mr. Rischer asked ifthe City put together the money to build Sunshine Park, built two of the five
fields, and began having problems with teams, would the City punish the whole community by
stating they have been having problems with the park. Or, would they deal with the problerns instead
of punishing the entire community for the sake of the few. He stated they mentioned that Sand Creek
was not close to City Hall and helmet usage is not happening there but it is utilized and when he had
been at Sand Creek he only saw kids enjoying themselves and using the park appropriately and he
thought the reason the accentuations that City Hall is seeing is because they are right next to the park
and the same things happen at Sand Creek but it is not noticed because it is not next to City Hall. He
stated he did not condone the bad language but the majority ofthe kids are not using foul language.
Mr. Rischer stated they needed to have the equipment for the kids to use. He would like the Board to
consider and give the kids time to realize that Andover was going to be tough and enforce the rules.
He stated the activities from the kids were not abusive and the park was the most used park in the
City. He stated he had not experienced the problems and he is there most evenings. The kids are out
there having a good time. This is not an overwhelming problem.
Mr. Rischer stated he was an advocate for the Skate Park; he handed out information and talked with
the kids regarding the skate park. He stated kids have been more than willing to consider the rules of
the skate park. He requested the City Council not to leave the park the way it was, and stated he was
willing to do what he could do to help the park.
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Councilmember Trude stated the task force were the ones who made up the rules. She asked ifhe
was part of that. He stated he was not one of the original members, he joined midway into this.
Councilmember Trude stated the concerns she had heard were not regarding the rules, it was the
behavior and parents felt they could not bring their children to the park because of this. Mr. Rischer
stated that he had not come across a lot of this but kids swear in school and they will swear
elsewhere. That is normal and the City should not punish everyone for the few that are misbehaving.
Mr. Rischer stated he would be willing to be a volunteer attendant if the funds were not there. He
asked that the Council approve the half pipe. Councilmember Trude stated that she had not heard of
these problems at Grace Lutheran so she was concerned with the behavior at this park. Mr. Rischer
stated that the park at Grace Lutheran was patrolled.
Councilmember Trude stated she had heard there was destruction of picnic tables and kids trying to
start things on fire. Mr. Rischer stated he would like the Council to go to the park and observe the
kids playing for a half hour and see how the kids are behaving and how they enjoy the park.
Councilmember Trude stated the City did not budget for the equipment, the Lions Club did fund the
equipment and the money from the City would be from the miscellaneous fund. Mr. Erar stated there
were dollars there but they were not specifically marked for the equipment.
Councilmember Knight asked the CSOs if the parents of the chronic offenders were contacted.
Officer Miller stated that there are chronic offenders but they could not do anything at this time
because it was not an offense. Commander King stated that even if they did go to the parents of the
offenders, the parents probably would not do anything about this.
Councilmember Trude asked if it would be worth the money to get an attendant for the park.
Councilmember Orttel stated this did not address the problems at City Hall with harassment and
other problems. He stated there were other sports activities at the park and he had not heard of any
other sports with these problems. Mayor Gamache stated the problem was the parents were not there
supervising the kids so an attendant would be like the authority problem.
Councilmember Orttel asked if they should have an ordinance so that the officers could have some
authority at the park.
Councilmember Trude stated there was not a way to keep the kids out of the park when an attendant
is not there but they should have an attendant there during the peak time that kids wí1l be there.
Mayor Gamache stated that it was the City's rule to wear helmets but what if they discontinued that
rule, would this make the behavior better. Commander King stated that if there was an attendant
there the behavior would be better.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if they hired someone for 40 hours a week for three months, what
would be the implications to the City. Mr. Erar stated they do hire seasonal part time employees and
there would not be any implications to the City regarding this.
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Mayor Gamache stated they have $9,000 allocated for the three months so they could have an
attendant until the start of school. His suggestion would be to go with an attendant and to put it into
effect and add a halfpipe to the complex with the Council covering the $9,000 for the park attendant.
Mr. Dickinson stated his suggestion would be for the money to come out of the levy dollars for the
park fund this year and then they could figure it into the budget for next year. Mr. Erar stated they
should take a look at this and bring it back to the next Council meeting with funding
recommendations.
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Councilmember Trude stated that if the money did ~ come out of the capital fund account, she
would not support it because she did not want to take from the park fund for an attendant.
Councilmember Orttel stated this was a park issue and he did not think the money should come out
of another fund.
Councilmember Trude stated that if they had an attendant, the attendance would go up because the
parents would feel safe to come back to the park.
MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Gamache, to approve Item No. 19 (Hiring a part time, temporary
seasonal skate board park attendant and the funding come from another account besides the Park
Capital Fund). Motion carried 4 ayes, 1 nay (Jacobson).
Councilmember Trude stated she wanted to change the Motion to ask staff to come back with the
recommendation for funding for hiring a part time temporary seasonal skate board park attendant and
approve the source of funding at the time the Council approves the hiring of an attendant.
MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Gamache, approve Item No. 19 (Hiring a part time, temporary
seasonal skate board park attendant and ask staffto come back with the recommendation for funding
and approve the source of funding at the time the Council approves the hiring of an attendant).
Motion carried 3 ayes, 2 nays (Jacobson and Knight).
Councilmember Jacobson stated he was voting against this because he did not think they should be
spending $9,000 to hire an attendant. He would take a different approach, maybe a little more hard-
line. He stated that privileges should be taken away until the behavior improves and if it does not
improve then the skate board park should be shut down permanently.
Councilmember Knight stated the reason for his voting against this was because he would like the
Council to look at this some more because they are allowing a handful of kids dictate policy for a
much larger group of kids as well as for the City itself and it bothered him because he thought the
perpetrators did not exceed fifteen people and it seems there maybe a better way to do this.
Councilmember Orttel stated he agreed with Councilmember Knight but they spend between one and
two million dollars for the Sheriff's Department for the same thing.
Ms. Julie Woodberg, 17171 Uplander Circle NW, stated she had been on the task force since the
beginning and the rules that were posted in the skate board park were not the rules written by the
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Skateboard Task Force and approved by the Park Commisson and the City Council. She stated the
rules being enforced were written by Todd Haas.
Ms. W oodberg stated helmets were not a requirement according to the League of Minnesota Cities.
She stated if kids were not going to listen to parents, they would not listen to an attendant a few years
older then they were. She stated Grace Lutheran Church had equipment that was smaller than the
City's and it was not Tier II equipment, a lot of it was homemade and falling apart. Grace Lutheran
Church had ten to twelve year olds at their park. She stated City Hall was a more favorable location
for the skate park because of having a phone available for the kids to use. Then the phone was taken
out of the City Hall area last year because the phone did not make enough money. She stated a pay
phone should be available for the amount of use it could get.
Mr. Dickinson stated it was removed for two reasons. The first reason was the city was paying over
$700.00 a year for a phone that was being utilized less than a minute a day and the second reason
was there was also concern regarding vandalism with the phone and the City was told that any more
vandalism to the phone would be the City's responsibility to repair. He stated the decision to remove
the phone was actually made last year. Mr. Erar stated the other aspect discussed by staff was even
though the pay phone was out there, kids would carry cellular phones and if they did not have a cell
phone or a quarter, they could come into City Hall and use the phone.
Ms. Woodberg stated that the City Council agreed to match the money dollar for dollar for
equipment that would be purchased this year and asked what would happen to the money if the
equipment was not purchased. Mr. Dickinson stated that if the funds were not used for the specified
use, the money would need to be returned to the Lions Club.
Ms. Woodberg stated that if the City did not have a place for the kids to go, they would be all over
the City so they needed to figure out how to get the inappropriate people removed out of the park.
Mayor Gamache stated he would like additional information on the rules posted on the board and
find out how the rules were changed. Mr. Erar stated they would research that and bring it back at
the next meeting.
APPROVE AUTHORIZATION TO OBTAIN QUOTES/01-5/SKATE PARK EQUIPMENT,
CONTINUED
It was noted this item was in regard to authorizing City staff to obtain quotes for the purchase of a
new 3 foot Ramp Rider Mini Ramp (half pipe) for the Skate Park Facility behind City Hall as
recommended by the Park & Recreation Commission.
Funding for purchasing the equipment would be from the $5,000 donation from the Andover Lions
that was specifically identified to purchase additional equipment. The remainder would be from
Park Dedication Funds (as a match), which was recommended by the Commission last year if a
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donation was made. The remainder would be from the Annual Miscellaneous projects identified in
the ClP (which is Park Dedication Funds).
Mayor Gamache asked if $10,700 was the full amount. Mr. Erickson stated that $10,700 was the
estimate they had at the point they wrote this and if it was any more than that, they would bring it
back to the Council for approval. Mayor Gamache stated they had $5,000 donated by the Lions
Club.
Mr. Rischer stated that he looked into this with Mr. Haas and $10,700 would be the maximum
charged for the equipment and it could even be less than that.
Councilmember Trude stated in talking with Mr. Haas this was the best price they could get for the
equipment and the only company that made this type of equipment. Mr. Rischer stated that there was
other equipment but it cost more.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item No. 20 (Authorize expenditures to
purchase equipment including taxes and shipping). Motion carried 4 ayes, 1 nay (Orttel).
Councilmember Orttel stated the reason he was voting no was because of the attendant. It was an
unfounded, untested method and he suggested they see if that works before they purchase more
equipment because if they had to close the park down they would have to put the equipment just
purchased away in storage.
Councilmember Trude stated that any violations in the park should be enforced. She would like to
have staff research and work with the CSOs to find out if the City was adequate in that area. Mr.
Dickinson stated the helmet issue was an item provided to them from a skate board workshop
through the League. They provided the City and Mr. Haas with sample language from the League
and worked with them on being able to limit their liability on this park. He stated they were all
suggested to them from the League and to keep the park at a Tier I level so that was why the
language was written like that.
Mayor Gamache asked what it would do if the City did not enforce this issue. Mr. Dickinson stated
the limitation the League set was that it had to be listed at the park but it did not list the enforcement.
Councilmember Knight asked ifthe language was "shall" or was to encourage it. Mr. Erar stated the
helmet was required and other types of safety equipment were recommended. Councilmember
Knight asked if they changed the wording to "recommend" did that affect their liability. Mr.
Dickinson stated he would need to research that. Councilmember Trude stated she would like
something in writing from the League regarding this because if the other cities were not doing this
that was one of the big issues and she thought they could get some information from the insurance
division. Mr. Dickinson stated they would provide that research to the Council.
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BOND SALE/l00l GENERAL OBLIGATION WATER REVENUE BONDS
Mr. Dickinson introduced Mr. Mark Ruff, a Financial Advisor from Ehlers & Associates, to present
the results of the City's sale of the following bond issue authorized at the May 7,2002 Council
Meeting.
Mr. Dickinson stated the City Council authorized at the May 1,2001 Council Meeting to provide for
the sale ofthe $9,780,000 General Obligation Water Revenue Bonds, Series 2002.
Mr. Dickinson stated the issuance of bonds would provide for the water systems expenses
programmed in the 2002-2006 Capitallmprovement Plan and revenues of the water system would
pay the debt service.
Mr. Ruff stated it was a good day to sell bonds and they received five bids. The winning bid was
from US Bancorp Piper Jaffray in combination with Wells Fargo, Morgan Keegan and Edward
Jones. He stated the interest rates ranged from 2.3 percent to 5 percent which gave them a true
interest rate calculation which was their calculation because the City was paying fees at the same
time so they may have some bids with lower fees but higher rates. He stated they put it into a present
value calculation and it was 4.7946 percent, which was 40 to 45 basis points lower than what they
had anticipated. So, the annual payments should be thirty to forty thousand dollars less than what
they had previously presented to the Council.
Mr. Ruff stated the other bids were from a variety of places. He stated what was typical for this size
of a bond issue was they allowed the bidders at their option to buy bond insurance at their cost. The
bond insurance was purchased from Amback so this issue would carry a Triple A bond rating.
Mr. Ruff stated they had a conference call with Standard and Poors and they were very, impressed
with the growth of the City and the management ofthe City. In their rating report, it stated the City's
bond rating reflected strong market value growth, maintenance of strong reserve levels and very
moderate debt levels. He stated with the review and the growth in the City and the policies that had
been adopted in the last year the City did receive a bond rating upgrade from an A to an A plus. He
stated bond-rating upgrades do not happen very often and only two cities within Anoka County with
a higher bond rating are Coon Rapids and Fridley. He presented to the City Council a Bond rating
upgrade certificate.
The Council expressed their gratitude to the staff for a job well done.
Councilmember Trude stated this would mean every time the City issued bonds, it would be a benefit
to developers.
Councilmember Jacobson stated that on the winning bid sheet when he looked at the years 2020,
2021, 2022 there is roughly 1.4 million bond due with mandatory redemption 2001 and the others did
not have this. He asked Mr. Ruff to explain this. Mr. Ruffstated most ofthe time, longer rnaturities
would be bought by large bond funds or insurance companies and they only like to buy blocks of
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bonds that are at least a million dollars as a block in total. So, underwriters will combine three
maturities into one ticket that they write to a bond fund. This was called terming bonds up which is
combining principal from the three years into one ticket. It did not reduce flexibility to the City.
Years 2021 and 2022 would make normal principal payments, they would just have the bonds called
a year earlier than they expected. It is a sales technique used to get the interest of the larger
institutions.
Councilmember Jacobson wanted to make sure this was not a balloon payment. Mr. Ruff stated it
was not a balloon payment, it would be fully amortized. Councilmember Jacobson asked ifall the
bonds were callable at any time. Mr. Ruff stated that they were callable after ten years.
MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item No. 21 (Bond Sale/2002 General
Obligation Water Revenue Bonds). See Resolution No. 086-02. Motioncarried unanimously.
Councilmember Jacobson stated that there were two resolutions in the packet and the correct one was
handed out at the meeting. Mr. Dickinson stated that everything was the same except the first
whereas was modified.
Mr. Erar stated he would like to recognize Mr. Ruff for the good work he had done on the bond
Issue.
PRESENTATIONOF 1001 AUDIT-HLB TAUTGES REDPATH
Mr. Dickinson introduced Mr. Mark Gibbs, CPA, an Audit Partner with the City's auditing firm,
HLB Tautges Redpath, who made a presentation to the City Council related to the City of Andover
Audited Financial Report as of December 31,2001 and the corresponding Financial Analysis and
Management Considerations.
Mr. Dickinson stated the City is required to have an independent audit conducted annually. The
2001 Audit was conducted throughout the months of March and April, with the final day of
fieldwork conducted on April 15, 2002. The Finance Staff was very involved in the audit process
and enjoyed the excellent working relationship with HLB Tautges Redpath.
Mr. Dickinson stated there was no budget impact, the presentation, financial report, the
corresponding financial analysis and management considerations and report on internal controls were
provided as informational.
Mr. Gibbs stated they had completed the audit for the City of Andover for December 31, 2001 and
the audit reports were sent to the State Auditor in accordance with Minnesota Statutes.
Mr. Gibbs summarized the audit report to the City Council and stated four reports were given to the
City in the process of performing the audit. The first was the Annual Financial Report and the
second was the Financial Analysis of Management Considerations. He stated the third report was on
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internal controls, which are required under government accounting standards, and they had no
reportable conditions on that. He stated the fourth report was the State of Minnesota Legal
Compliance Report that dealt with five areas and was a checklist type of report.
Mr. Gibbs stated the general fund balance increased by $737,000 in 2001 and one of the main
reasons was because they had an under expenditure. That amount has been reserved for the Road
and Bridge fund in 2002.
Mr. Gibbs stated that a general rule was that they should have fifty percent of the ensuing budget
expenditures on hand at December 31. He stated their 2002 General Fund expenditure budget was
about 6.9 million and they had approximately 3.4 million on hand so the City met the ratio of fifty
percent coverage.
Councilmember Jacobson stated that usually there is a page or two of recommendations from the
auditors and this year he did not see any. He wanted to know ifthere were any concerns. Mr. Gibbs
stated that there were a few minor items they discussed with Mr. Dickinson. One was the recording
of special assessments; the nature of the reports they received fTom Anoka County was not conducive
to tying back their special assessment balances so the City could get a firm handle on them. He
stated the City of Fridley had developed proprietary software to monitor that and their
recommendation was for the City of Andover to explore that.
Mr. Gibbs stated another concern was the amount of debt the City had and Mr. Dickinson told him
that it was actually low and short term debt. Mr. Dickinson stated there were some suggestions
within the Financial Analysis and Management Consideration report where the auditors offered some
suggestions within the funds.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Trude, to Receive Item No. 22 (Accept the 2001 Audit - HLB
Tautges Redpath). Motion carried unanimously.
RECEIVE FEASIBILITY REPORT/Ol-13/VERDIN STREET TRAIL
Mr. Erickson noted this item was in regard to receiving the feasibility report for the evaluation of
potential trail connections from neighborhoods adjacent to the Rum River Elementary School.
Mr. Erickson stated the funding for the trail improvement was identified in the 2002 CIP in the
amount of $100,000. Barring any issues that may arise during the project design, the actual
contractor bids for this work should be in line with the budget for this project. rfadditional funding
would be necessary, other funding sources could be identified.
Mr. Erickson stated there were three potential trails.
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Trail A is on the East side of V erdin Street and this trail is proposed in the report to be constructed
along the east side of Verdin Street between 169th Lane and 1720d Lane in Woodland Meadows.
Trail A has an estimated cost of$80,356.50.
Trail B is on 168th Lane to School and South Property Line and this trail would be constructed along
the west side of the Bjork property (2477 _168th Lane NW). The trail would be constructed 8 feet
wide from l68th Lane to the school parking lot and would be located within a 15-foot wide trail
easement of which the easement would need to be purchased from the property owner. The City
recently received the appraisal in regard to the value of the trail easement that would be necessary to
construct the trail on the Bjork property. The appraisal indicates the value of the easement to be
$3,700. The Bjorks have received a copy of the appraisal for review. Trail B has an estimated cost
of$33,472.95.
Councilmember Knight noted there would not be an official crossing on 169,h and asked how we
would they stop the kids from crossing there. Mr. Erickson stated there would be a crossing guard
farther down where the kids would cross.
The school district has indicated that a trail is necessary from 168th Lane but their preferred location
would be along the west side of Verdin Street from 168,h Lane north to the school's southerly
entrance. This location would tend to funnel the walkers to a location that would be monitored by a
school crossing guard. The difficulty with this option is a wetland would need to be filled on the
corner of 168th and Verdin Street to allow for the trail construction.
Trail C is the boardwalk from Bittersweet Street to the west property line of the School. The trail
would be constructed through the northwest comer of the school property. There are existing
wetlands that would be affected by the trail. The property owner at this location has indicated that
they would not be interested in having a trail at this location. Trail C has an estimated cost of
$51,381. 75. Mr. Erickson stated the school district has indicated to City staffthat this trail segment
is an aligrunent they would not prefer.
Mr. Erickson noted the funding for the trail improvement is identified in the 2002 CIP in the amount
of $1 00,000. If additional funding would be necessary, other funding sources could be identified.
Councilmember Jacobson noticed in all the other trail proposals, except in Trail C, there was not any
right of way fee, so if one went in there, would it be free. Mr. Erickson stated it was not reflected in
the estimate. He stated it did cross a wetland, the cost is over $51,000, it would have to be an
elevated boardwalk, and it does not include an easement purchase because the property owner stated
he was not interested in providing the easement at this time. The trail connection is not supported by
the school district either.
Councilmember Trude asked if the proposals were what the schools wanted. Mr. Erickson stated the
school wanted to see a trail connection on the west side of Verdin from 168th Lane to the southern
entrance. He stated the problem was a large wetland on the comer with a steep ditch and there would
probably need to be some property purchased and wetland filled to make a trail connection.
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Councilmember Jacobson asked if they really needed two trails or would one work. Mr. Erickson
stated to effectively provide some type of access to the school he would recommend two trails.
Trails A and B would be the minimum improvements to provide some kind of access to the school.
Mayor Gamache asked if Trail A is running along someone's property. Mr. Erickson stated this
would be on City right-of-way so they were not anticipating any additional purchase of property.
Mr. Jim Olsen, 16658 Wren Court, addressed the issue of philosophical trails to the elementary
school that no one wanted there in the first place. He stated that if they only have five or ten kids on
each side of the school using the trail, he could not see spending $80,000 on building trails when
they did not want to spend $9,000 on a skate board park attendant.
Mr. Olsen stated he worked with the City staff and the Park Commission to get the trail on the south
from 168'h and the property line. Everybody seemed to be in agreement that it was the best of the
solutions that they could see. Councilmember Trude asked ifhe lived on any of the properties that
were impacted or had elementary kids. Mr. Olsen stated he did not.
Councilmember Orttel stated that when the school went in he was concerned with the kids walking
on the busy road to get to the school and other activities located at the school. He noted the kids are
there even when the school is not open.
Mayor Gamache stated they had funding available for $100,000 in the 2002 CIP. If they do have
both trails this would exceed the amount so how would they come up with the additional money to
finish both trails. Mr. Erickson stated they would put together a set of plans and specifications and
hid the project. If they receive excellent bids it would be under the $100,000 but if they were over
that amount he would ask the City's Finance Director to make some recommendations.
Mr. Dickinson stated the other funds would be the Capital Equipment Reserve where the parks have
a specific designation offunds and they could reallocate to do this or they could use road and bridge
funds.
Councilmember Trude asked if the trails would be done before school opened in the fan if they
moved on this. Mr. Erickson stated that they were working to get it done by the time school opens
and the school has some internal trails that the new trails could connect to.
Councilmember Jacobson stated when voting on this he would like to have two separate motions
because he had some concems regarding Trail B. Mayor Gamache asked what the length of the trail
was. Mr. Erickson stated he did not have the exact footage on that.
Councilmember Trude stated she would recommend the trails as an investment and enhancement to
the area.
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MOTIONby Trude, Seconded by Orttel, to Approve Item No. 23 (Approve Trail A and Trail B and
direct staff to move forward with ordering the plans and specs and authorizing staffto work with the
property owner on the purchase ofthe easement, See Resolution R087-02). Motion carried 4 ayes, 1
nay (Jacobson).
ORDER TRAIL IMPROVEMENT/01-21/HANSON BOULEVARD & CROSSTOWN
BOULEVARD INTERSECTION
Mr. Erickson stated the City Council recently discussed trail improvements along certain sections of
Hanson Boulevard and Crosstown Boulevard. In conjunction with the reconstruction of the
Hanson/Crosstown intersection, a trail was recommended to be constructed along the east side of
Hanson Boulevard south of Crosstown Boulevard to 150th Lane. By constructing a trail at this
location it would provide a safer route for the schoolchildren to get to the crosswalk that are currently
using the shoulder along Hanson Boulevard.
Mr. Erickson stated the estimated cost for the Hanson Boulevard trail segment was $20,000, which
was not identified in the 2002 CIP.
Councilmember Trude stated if there was a trail put in, the kids would not need to cross the road.
They could follow the trail to the stoplight or if they were going to OakView, they ,""ould not need to
cross at all. Mr. Erickson stated that for school walkers and with all the activity in the area, this
would provide a safer connection. Councilmember Trude stated they would be collecting a lot of
trail money from new developments to the west of the area in the next year or two.
Mayor Gamache asked if this was all on the right-of-way for Hanson Boulevard. Mr. Erickson
stated this was true.
Councilmember Orttel asked when they would be starting on the intersection light. Mr. Erickson
stated they would be starting in June.
Councilmember Jacobson asked Mr. Dickinson where the money would come fTom for the trail. Mr.
Dickinson said the money was coming from the interest earnings on the pavement management
transfer. He recommended Council look at designating interest earned on those dollars to pay for
this project.
Councilmember Trude asked ifstaffwould research the other two trail sections. Mr. Erickson stated
they would do an additional analysis on the other two trail sections and approach the property owners
and explore their interest in an easement purchase fTom them for the trail. Councilmember Trude
asked if staff could check with the County about paving a shoulder where the trail ends if they could
not get the easements.
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MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item No. 24 (Authorize staff to draw plans
and specifications and prepare to build the trail from Crosstown south on Hanson to 150,h Lane and
put it as a change order to the Counties signalization project, See Resolution R088-02). Motion
carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE 1003 COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP
Mr. Erar explained that during the 2002 Budget process, Council had indicated their strong desire to
meet with staff earlier in the budget process to articulate Council service related concerns, discuss
fiscal implications affecting the new budgeting cycle and identify any new Council service related
priorities for the subsequent year. In response, a Council workshop has been included in the early
stages of the annual budget development calendar.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve Item No. 25 and direct staff to schedule a
City Council workshop to discuss 2003 budget, on Tuesday, June 18,2002,5:30 pm. Motion carried
unanimously.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS - COMMUNITY CENTER
Mr. Erar explained the Council has requested that two public infonnational meetings be scheduled to
begin the process of gaining citizen input regarding the proposed Community Center project.
Mr. Erar stated Council was requested to schedule a Public Infonnation meeting on the proposed
Community Center for Thursday, June 13 at 6:30 p.m. at Andover Elementary School.
Mr. Erar stated the Council could discuss additional ideas for advertising the meeting date and
location because there seemed to be some question whether or not the public was notified of the
previous meeting on May 16, 2002. He stated he had authorized additional signage that would be
placed throughout the community at various physical locations, posting it in the newsletter and on
cable TV, placing it on the electronic bulletin board, placing flyers, and contacting the school to
place some infonnation.
Councilmember Knight stated that he had a request from different organizations that the meeting be
changed to a Sunday because the weekdays are too hectic with activities. Mayor Gamache stated
they could have two meetings on the same night to accommodate more people. Mr. Erar stated they
could have a meeting at 6:30 p.m. and another at 8:00 p.m. to accommodate everyone.
Councilmember Knight asked if the staff would be meeting anytime soon with the YMCA. Mr. Erar
stated that they would be meeting with them this week. Mr. Dickinson stated they would be meeting
regarding the amount of space that would be needed for the Community Center.
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MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Orttel, to approve Item No. 26 and direct staff to schedule two
Public Information meetings on the proposed Community Center on Thursday, June 13,2002 at 6:30
p.m. and 8:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Research New School Board District Lines) - Mr. Erar stated that this was in response to a concern
raised by Councilmember Trude. She had requested that staff provide information regarding the
school district boundary lines. The School Board acted on their proposed boundary lines on
Monday, May 20,2002. The proposal is to leave Mike Sullivan's district as is with the elimination
of Andover Precinct #2, which wí1l go to Ham Lake and Precinct #3, which wí1l go to Coon Rapids.
There was also the possibility ofa second proposal. The adopted boundary lines wí1l be available on
the School District's Website. Councilmember Trude stated she was upset that they did not get a
chance to comment on this before the lines were drawn.
(Letter in Regard to Wetland) - Councilmember Knight asked if everyone had received the letter
regarding the wetland. Mr. Erar stated staff had not had a chance to look at this letter.
Councilmember Orttel stated that he would like Staff to look into this and they could discuss this at
the next meeting. Councilmember Trude stated this brought up the issue of general drainage. Mr.
Erickson stated they would look at the issue and respond back.
(Rescheduling Executive Session) - Councilmember Trude stated she had a conflict with the May
Executive Session meeting.
Mr. Erar stated they could work it into June 5,h if everyone would have it open on their schedules.
Councilmember Trude stated June 5,h would be fine or they could start June 4,h.
Mayor Gamache asked ifJune 4th would be okay for everyone. Councilmember Jacobson stated that
June 5th would be better.
MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to reschedule the Executive Session to May 5,h at 7:00
p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Gamache asked ifby changing the meeting date, did they need to notify the people involved
ofthe change. Mr. Erar stated they would send out letters with the new date and again give them the
choice of an open or closed meeting.
(Phone Call) - Councilmember Trude stated she had a call from Mr. and Mrs. Knox at 15309 Linnet
Street regarding the drainage hole being so close to their home. She asked if this was an issue they
needed to go to their developer about or if it was the City's problem. Mr. Erickson stated they are
working with them and Mr. and Mrs. Knox were in the process of reconfiguring the pond in their
back yard.
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(Park Board Funds) - Councilmember Jacobson stated he would like staff to bring infonnation to the
next Council meeting in regard to park funds and what is left in the budget for the rest of the year in
regard to trail funds. He stated he would like to have an idea on what they have and don't have. Mr.
Dickinson stated they could do that and it would also be included in the upcoming quarterly report.
(Phosphorus Bill) - Mayor Gamache noted he had received a letter regarding the Phosphorus Bill.
(Memorial Services) - Mayor Gamache stated Memorial Day was coming up and there would be two
different memorial services to honor the September 11, 2001 victims. Anyone who would like to
attend would be welcome.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 9:53 p.m.
RespectfulJy submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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