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Regular City Council Meeting - April 16, 2002
6:00 PM - Executive Session:
a. Woodland Development Pending Litigation
1. Call to Order - 7:00 PM
2. Resident Forum
3. Declare Proclamation/2002 National Night Out
4. Agenda Approval
5. Approval of Minutes (3/21/02) (3/26/02) (4/2/02)
Consent Items
6. Approve Plans & Specs/O l-21/Hanson Boulevard NW & Crosstown Boulevard NW - Engineering
7. Approve Joint Powers AgreementlOI-21/Hanson Boulevard NW & Crosstown Boulevard NW -.
Engineering.
8. Approve Resolution/ Allocating Off System Expenditure of City MSA Funds onto County
Systems/01-21/Hanson Boulevard NW & Crosstown Boulevard NW - Engineering
9. Approve Custodianship of Easements & Warranty Deed/O 1-2 I/Hanson Boulevard NW & Crosstown
Boulevard NW - Engineering
10. Approve Plans & Specs/00-5A12002 Street Rehabilitation/7th Avenue Area - Engineering
11. Approve Change Order #1 (Compensating)/00-16/Grey O.lks (Phase II) - Engineering
12. Award Bid/00-43/Natures Run - Engineering
13. Approve Plans & Specsl02-5/Shadowbrook East Parkl2002 CIP - Engineering
14. Approve Plans & Specs/02-6/Wild lris Parkl2002 CIP - Engineering
15. Approve Plans & Specs/02-I/Hidden Creek East Parkl2002 CIP - Engineering
16. Approve Plans & Specs/02-9IPine Hills & Timber Rivers Parksl2002 CIP - Engineering
17. Award Bid/02-l4/2002 Overlays/2002 CIP - Engineering
18. Approve Plans & Specs/99-15/Water Treatment Plant and Transmission Lines/2002 CIP - Engineering
19. Declare CostlO 1-12N erdin Street NW Street Improvements - Engineering
20. Authorize PreparationlLandscape Maintenance Contract & Order Quotations/02-19/ Andover Station
Median & Boulevard Maintenance - Engineering
21. RejectlReauthorize City Surplus Equipment-Public Works
22. Declare Surplus EquipmentlFire Department - Fire
23. Consider Lot Split at 3560 - I 42nd Lane - Planning
24. Approve Non-Intoxicating On-Sale Liquor LicenselW oodland Creek Golf Course - Clerk
25. Approve Precinct Boundaries and Polling Locations - Clerk
26. Appointment RecommendationlFinance Department - Administration
27. Acknowledge Audio Video Multimedia Council Chambers Update Bid -Administration
28. Approve Pavement Management Transfer - Finance
Discussion Items
29. Receive Anoka County Sheriff Department Monthly Report - Sheriff
30. Continuance of 2002 Board of Review Hearing - Administration
. 31. Consider Preliminary Plat of "Andover Marketplace"/Commercial Blvd. and Thrush Street-Planning
32. Consider Final Plat of "Andover Marketplace"/Conunercial Blvd. and Thrush Street-Planning
33. Amend Ordinance No. 260 /Adjusting Rental Inspection License Fees - Planning
34. Consider Request to Lease City Property Located at 15961 Makah Street NW - Planning
35. Request from Mr. La' Mont Knazze 1\1 to Address the Counci1./Drainage Easement (Supplemental)-
Engineering
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Staff Items
36. Appoint TAC Members/O I-I 8rrransportation Plan - Engineering
37. Schedule Special City Council W orkshop/O 1-18rrransportation Plan - Engineering
38. Consider LMC Board of Directors Nomination Process (Verbal) - Administration
Mayor/Council
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
Executive Session:
A. City Administrator Perfonnance Evaluation - Administration
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - APRIL 16, 2002
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM ................................................................................................................. 1
DECLARE PROCLAMATION/2002 NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ...........................................1
AGENDA APPROV AL....................................................................................................... ...... 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES ...................................................................................................... 2
CONSENT ITEMS
Resolution R055-02 approving Plans and Specs/01-2l/Hanson Boulevard NW and
Crosstown Boulevard NW. ............ ...... ..... ... .......... ........... ................ ........... ...... .......... ....2
Approving Joint Powers Agreement/OI-2l/Hanson Boulevard NW and Crosstown
Boulevard NW .......... ....... ...... '" ... .... ...... ... ....... ................. ......... ... .... ..... ................ ..... .... 2
Resolution R056-02 approving Resolution!Allocating Off System Expenditures
of City MSA Funds onto County Systems/01-21/Hanson Boulevard NW
and Crosstown Boulevard NW ....................................................................................... 2
Approving Custodianship of Easements and Warranty Deed/Hanson Boulevard NW
And Crosstown Boulevard NW ..................................................................................... 2
Resolution R057-02 approving Plans and Specs/00-5N2002 Street Rehabilitation!
7'h Avenue Area ..............................................................................................................2
Resolution R058-02 awarding BidJOO-43/Natures Run .......................................................3
Resolution R059-02 approving Plans and Specs/02-5/Shadowbrook East Park!
2002 ClP ....... ..... .... ...... ............ ...... ....... .... ....... ...... ... .............. ...... .... ..... .... .... ...... ........... 3
Resolution R060-02 approving Plans and Specs/02-6/Wild Iris Park!2002 ClP .................3
Resolution R061-02 approving Plans and Specs/02-1/Hidden Creek East Park!2002
ClP ..................................................................................................................................3
Resolution R062-02 approving Plans and Specs/02-9/Pine Hills and Timber Rivers Parks/
2002 ClP ....... .... .... ... ... ...... .... ...... .... ..... ........ .... ...... .......... ...... ....... .... ...... .............. .......... 3
Resolution R063-02 awarding BidJ02-14/2002 Overlays/2002 ClP ................................... 3
Resolution R064-02 approving Plans and Specs/99-l5/Water Treatment Plant and
Transmission Lines/2002 ClP .........................................................................................3
Resolution R065-02 declare Cost/OI-12Nerdin Street NW Street Improvements ............. 3
Resolution R066-02 authorize PreparationlLandscape Maintenance Contract and
Order Quotations/02-19/Andover Station Median and Boulevard Maintenance............ 3
Reject/Reauthorize City Surplus Equipment ....................................................................... 3
Declare Surplus Equipment/Fire Department ...................................................................... 3
Resolution R067-02 consider Lot Split at 3560 142nd Lane NW ........................................ 3
Approve Non-Intoxicating Liquor License/Woodland Creek Golf Course .........................3
Resolution R068-02 approving Precinct Boundaries and Polling Locations....................... 3
Appointment Recommendation " ...... ..... ..... ..... .... ..... .... .......... ....... ...... .... ....... ..... ................ 3
Acknowledge AudioNisuallMulti-Media Council Chambers Upgrade Bid....................... 3
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Table of Contents
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RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT................ 3
Received............ ............. ......... ... ......... ...... ......................... ... ......... ................ ... ...... ......... ..... 4
APPROVE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT TRANSFER ....................................................... 4
CONTINUATION OF 2002 BOARD OF REVIEW HEARING ..............................................5
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT OF "A~'DOVER MARKETPLACE"/COMMERCIAL
BOULEVARD AND THRUSH STREET
Resolution R069-02 Approve ............................................................................................... 12
CONSIDER FINAL PLAT OF "ANDOVER MARKETPLACE"/COMMERCIAL
BOULEVARD AND THRUSH STREET
Resolution R070-02 Approving Final Plat ......................................~................................... 12
AMEND ORDINANCE NO. 260/ADJUSTING RENTAL INSPECTION LICENSE FEE
Ordinance No. 260C Adjusting Fees .................................................................................... 13
CONSIDER REQUEST TO LEASE CITY PROPERTY LOCATED AT 15961 MAKAH
STREET NW
Motion to Approve. ....... ...... ... ...... .... ........ ........ ....... .......... ................ ......... ................ ........... 14
REQUEST FROM MR. LA'MONT KNAZZE III TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIlJ
DRAINAGE EASEMENT ................................................................................................... 15
APPOINT TAC MEMBERS/01-18/TRANSPORTATION PLAN
Motion to Approve............ ........ ...... ......... ........ .......................... .... ......... ........ ... ...... ......... .... 15
SCHEDULE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP/01-18-TRANSPORTATION
PLAN .................................................................................................................................... 16
CONSIDER LMC BOARD OF DIRECTORS NOMINATION PROCESS............................. 16
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Elected Officials Meeting ..................................................................................................... 17
Codifications of Ordinance. ......... ... .... ......... ........ ... ......... ............ .......... ........ ...... ...... ....... .... 17
Memo Regarding Precinct Boundaries ................................................................................. 17
Consent Agenda. ....... ... .... ........ ..... ....... ....... .................... .......... ........... ... ........ ....... ........... .... 17
High Water Concern .............................................................................................................17
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS ........................................................................................................ 17
ADJOURNMENT.................................................................................................................. .... 17
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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING -APRIL 16, 2002
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache, April 16, 2002, 7:02 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William Hawkins
Fire Chief, Dan Winkel
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson -
Community Development Director, Will Neumeister
City Administrator, John Erar
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Charlie Veiman -13646 Crooked Lake Boulevard requested that on next year's budget a stop sign
be installed at Crooked Lake Boulevard. He stated it would be very wise to have a stop sign there.
He stated he had letters from the school district and the bus company recommending a stop sign and
asked ifthe Council had time during the day to come to the corner and watch the people trying to
cross the road at that intersection.
DECLARE PROCLAMATIONI2001 NATIONAL NIGHT OUT
Mayor Gamache proclaimed Tuesday, August 6, 2002 as "National Night Out" in Andover. He
read the proclamation.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Remove from Consent Items for discussion, Item 28, <Approve Pavement Management Transfer).
Mayor Gamache stated Item 11 was tabled and Item 35 had more information.
Councilmember Jacobson stated on Item 25 the effective date of the map was wrong and should be
corrected. He did not want this item pulled.
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MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the Agenda as amended above. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
March 21, 2002, Special Joint Meeting with Planning and Zoning: Correct as amended.
March 26, 2002, Special Meeting: Correct as written.
April 2, 2002, Regular Meeting: Correct as amended.
Councilmember Trude stated she had a correction on the minutes of March 21, in the discussion of
site D; statement Councilmember Trude made "whether wetland was controlled by the OOHH Corp
(as in Corp of Engineers).
Councilmember Trude stated she had a correction on the minutes of April 2. There was a discussion
on Anoka Hennepin School Update, paragraph 10, where she made comments referring to families
that live in Crown point Development in developments east of the railroad tracks.
Councilmember Orttel asked if the minutes could be approved separately because some of the
members were not at all the meetings.
MOTION by Trude, Seconded by Orttel, approval of Minutes of March 21. as amended above.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of Minutes of March 26, correct as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, approval of Minutes of April 2, as amended above.
Motion carried 4-1 present (Orttel present).
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 6 Approve of Plans and Specs/01-21/Hanson Boulevard NW and Crosstown Boulevard
NW (See Resolution R055-02)
Item 7 Approve Joint Powers Agreement/OI-2l/Hanson Boulevard NW and Crosstown
Boulevard NW
Item 8 Approve Resolution/ Allocating Off System Expenditures of City MSA Funds onto
County Systems/O l-21/Hanson Boulevard NW and Crosstown Boulevard NW (See
Resolution R056-02)
Item 9 Approve Custodianship of Easements and Warranty DeedJOI-21/Hanson Boulevard
NW and Crosstown Boulevard NW
Item 10 Approve Plans and Specs/00-5N2002 Street Rehabilitation/7th Avenue Area (See
Resolution R057-02)
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Item 12 Award Bid/OO-43/Natures Run (See Resolution R058-02)
Item 13 Approve Plans and Specs/02-5/Shadowbrook East Park/2002 CIP (See Resolution
R059-02)
Item 14 Approve Plans & Specs/02-6/Wild Iris Park/2002 CIP (See Resolution R060-02)
Item 15 Approve Plans and Specs/02-l/Hidden Creek East Park/2002 CIP (See Resolution
R06l-02)
Item 16 Approve Plans and Specs/02-9/Pine Hills and Timber River Parks/2002 CIP (See
Resolution R062-02)
Item 17 Award Bidl02-l412002 Overlays/2002 CIP (See Resolution R063-02)
Item 18 Approve Plans and Specs/99-151W ater Treatment Plant and Transmission Lines/2002
CIP (See Resolution R064-02)
Item 19 Declare Cost!O l-12N erdin Street NW Street Improvements (See Resolution R065-
02)
Item 20 Authorize Preparation/Landscape Maintenance Contract and Order Quotations/02-
- 19/ Andover Station Median and Boulevard Maintenance (See Resolution R066-02)
Item 21 RejectlReauthorize City Surplus Equipment
Item 22 Declare Surplus EquipmentlFire Department
Item 23 Consider Lot Split at 3560 142nd Lane NW (See Resolution R067-02)
Item 24 Approve Non-Intoxicating On-Sale Liquor LicenselWoodland Creek Golf Course
Item 25 Approve Precinct Boundaries and Polling Locations (See Resolution R068-02)
Item 26 Appointment Recommendation
Item 27 Acknowledge AudioNisuallMulti-Media Council Chambers Upgrade Bid
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion
carried unanimously.
RECEIVE ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT MONTHLY REPORT
Captain Dave King, Anoka County Sheriffs Department, provided an update on law enforcement
activities occurring within Andover.
Captain King also updated the Council on the school bus situation. He did not have any numbers
together. He stated they softened their stance regarding zero tolerance because after two days, they
realized that there were a lot people that did not know the zones were changing. He stated there had
not been any incidents with school children that he was aware o£
Mayor Gamache asked how the traffic flow at the schools was being handled with parents dropping
off and picking up children. Captain King stated that he had not heard of any traffic problems with
the picking up and dropping offofchildren. He stated the school board had done a good job on the
traffic within the school property.
Councilmember Knight asked ifthere were a large number of small children on the roads going to
and from school. C¡lain Kin stated thl had not seen a lot of childmI,
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Captain King stated the last day they were going to be doing their overtime detail would be Friday.
Mayor Gamache asked if the children were following the crossing paths and not trying to cross
where they were not supposed to. Captain King stated that he had not heard any reports of children
crossing where they should not have been.
Councilmember Trude stated she was concerned with the children riding bikes along Crosstown
going east and then south, where there was not really any room to bike. Captain King stated they
would continue to monitor this in the next couple of months to see that there were not any hot spots
out there and if something comes to their attention, they would go back to patrolling the area and
deal with the issues as they occur. Councilmember Trude stated she had seen a few children at Oak
View crossing the driveway and they were supposed to follow the school so they did not have to
cross at the driveway. She also noticed vehicles were turning left when they were only supposed to
turn right to get out of the school at the Oak View site. Captain King stated he would relay that -
concern to Chuck Holden. Councilmember Trude stated they did not want kids in the parking lot
unless they were catching a ride.
Councilmember Orttel asked where at Crooked Lake School the speed limit changed. Captain King
stated it started a little bit before Meadow Creek Elementary on the west side and went to the east
side of the parking lot (Gladiola Street). Councilmember Ortte\ asked if this was the statute and
pointed out that if they could extend it another block, they could cover the Crooked Lake
intersection. Captain King stated it would be County Highway and County Resolution for that type
of thing.
Councilmember Trude stated she did notice that when you exit the Oak View parking lot you do not
see the newly posted speed zone until about a mile later. Captain King stated that they asked if the
speed limit sign could be moved farther down the road because the people who were turning would
miss the speed limit sign.
APPROVE PA VEMENT MANAGEMENT TRANSFER
Councilmember Jacobson stated he had this pulled because five years ago they designated a one
percent tax levy plus one percent of new passing growth and he would like staff to spend two
minutes and explain what that was for. Mr. Dickinson stated dating back to March 1997 the Public
Works Committee, elected a program for being more aggressive in their street maintenance in
Andover. The outcome of those discussions was the recommendation of a street maintenance
program which was called pavement management program to be financed by a one percent tax levy
in capturing one percent of the tax capacity for increased valuation each year. He stated that
generated a computation in prior years for 1998, 1999,2000 and 2001 budgets; the computation was
made based on the calculation. Annually if the funds were not spent, they were transferred to a
reserve fund to be utilized and accumulated to take on larger proj ects that need to be done. A
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significant amount of the dollars were programmed in the 2002 CIP to make improvements that they
had already approved through the process. The process would end in 2002.
MOTIONby Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve and move the transfer ofItem 28 (pavement
Management Transfer). Motion carried unanimously.
CONTINUATION OF 2001 BOARD OF REVIEW HEARING
It was noted the annual Board of Review was held on Wednesday, April 1 0,2002 and was continued
to the April 16th City Council meeting.
In order for the County Assessor to research market values, the Board of Review was continued.
Council must complete the process by May 1,2002. Council was requested to complete the process
and adjourn the Board of Review. -
Mr. Jagusch stated they had three appeals at the initial Board of Review meeting and he would give
the Board his recommendations on the properties.
Mr. J agusch stated regarding the property owned by Ms. Funk on Crooked Lake, he found no reason
to make an adjustment at all. He stated he went through the entire property and found no reason to
adjust the amount and recommended leaving the value at its current status, which was $242,500 for
2003.
Mayor Gamache asked what the breakdown was between the value of the land and the value of the
home. Mr. Jagusch stated the land was $111,000 and the remainder of that was the structure.
Councilmember Trude stated she was uncomfortable with him bringing this up without Mr. Nielsen
at the meeting. She stated she was sure he would have some comments to make regarding the
recommendation. She asked if Mr. Jagusch had spoken with Mr. Nielsen. Mr. Jagusch stated he had
spoken to Mr. Nielsen at least once today and he was aware of all the recommendations.
Councilmember Trude asked ifMr. Jagusch pulled other properties on the lake before he made that
determination. Mr. Jagusch stated he had looked at all the other properties on the lake including
properties in Coon Rapids to make sure that they were in scope. Mr. Jagusch stated that on this
particular property he recommended leaving the value at $242,500 for pay 2003. Councilrnember
Trude stated she remembered from the minutes that Ms. Funk's increase on the land was from
$60,000 to $110,000. Mr. Jagusch stated it was $111,000.
Councilmember Orttel asked how they got so far behind. Mr. Jagusch stated there might have been a
series of three to four years where they did not get a lot of data. He stated there were going to be
different kinds of properties that would flow with the market. Councilmember Orttel stated the
amount of increase was horrendous but was still conservative.
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Councilmember Jacobson asked ifthere was a reason why the land values along Crooked Lake and
the Rum River in Andover were significantly higher than what they find in land values on the Coon
Rapids side of the lake and on the Ramsey side ofthe river. Mr. Jagusch stated they did look at that
in-depth and there was a great deal of relativity not only with their lots along the Rum River with
regards to size and topography but on the Ramsey side of the river. He stated there also was
relativity between the lots on the Andover side and the lots on the Ramsey side. He stated most of
their lots were smaller than Andover's as far as river frontage, depth of lot, and overall square
footage. Councilmember Jacobson stated that on a percent basis their land cost would have gone up
the same percent as Andover's side of the river. Mr. Jagusch stated he could not personally attest to
the market in Ramsey because he has never done Ramsey.
Councilmember Orttel stated the issue was not how much they went up, it was the ultimate
calculations if they were equal, and if they equaled the market value.
Councilmember Trude stated it was based on all the conglomerated sales within the City to the
market value. Mr. Jagusch stated if the Board looked at the border, the Coon Rapids properties were
smaller than the ones in Andover. Councilmember Trude asked why it would cost so much less to
live in Coon Rapids than Andover. Mr. Jagusch stated he was not sure it cost less to live in Coon
Rapids. He stated they were dealing with value.
Councilmember Jacobson stated they did not assess the entire City of Andover in one year; it was
broken down and assessed every three or four years. He wanted to know how they do their
assessment. Mr. Jagusch stated they did reassess the entire City every year. He stated they did view
a portion of their residential properties every year. Councilmember Jacobson asked if someone
physically went out into the portion of the City in question and looked at every parcel. Mr. Jagusch
stated yes they did that.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if$60,000 was a fair value last year on Ms. Funk's property. Mr.
Jagusch stated that it more than likely was. Councilmember Jacobson asked what caused it to go
from $60,000 to $111,000 in one year. Mr. Jagusch stated he had a couple of sales. He stated that
when someone buys property, they buy the land and house so they need to look at the ratio ofland to
building. He stated every year they have to revaluate the land and decide what portion was
appreciating, whether it was the structure or the land. He stated the structure could be rebuilt. He
stated there would be a stronger appreciation on land that was on water than land that was not on
water.
Councilmember Jacobson stated that Mr. Sikora was at the previous meeting and if they compared
Oak Grove to what he was paying, there was no comparison. Councilmember Knight stated he had
only nine tillable acres out offorty and the rest was marshland. He stated Mr. Jagusch's explanation
for that before was people liked looking over marshes; therefore, the land was desirable. Mr.
J agusch stated that is what he said because the Council asked if it was because he had wetland.
Councilmember Knight stated Mr. Sikora had a large amount of wetland on the property.
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Councilmember Orttel stated the one thing he said many times was that he did not want to file a
protest; he stated he did not like the fact that it went up so fast. Councilmember Jacobson asked
what was market value when a couple blocks away, land in Oak Grove was substantially less per acre
than what Mr. Sikora was payíng. Mr. Jagusch presented a map that dealt with the issue.
Councilmember Knight asked the price per acre. Mr. J agusch stated the bottom line was $8,000 per
acre.
Councilmember Trude stated there were pockets of problems, not everyone in the City was unhappy
but many people were upset by the big jump. She stated in other areas there was not a big jump in
value.
Councilmember Jacobson stated Mr. Jagusch made a statement at the last meeting that on average,
housing values went up twenty percent in the last year. Mr. J agusch stated that he stated it was true
of the metro area and the percent was from the Board of Realtors. Councilmember Jacobson asked if -
that was true, why did some of the property values in Andover actually go up seventy to eighty-five
percent. Mr. Jagusch stated that it was total market value and one would have to assume that the
value from the previous year would be correct. He stated he was not saying it was correct in
previous years. Councilmember Jacobson stated that some of the rates of increase did not seem
correct when they were looked at by the Council. He stated there was something wrong someplace.
Mr. Dickinson stated if the Council had issues they would like Staff to check, they could address
individual properties to find a resolution to their issues and on the other issues they could sit down
with the Assessor at a workshop. Councilmember Jacobson asked what the deadline was. Mr.
J agusch stated they had twenty days from convening the meeting on April 1 0, 2002.
Councilmember Knight asked if Mr. Jagusch evaluated land in agricultural categories and how that
affected the valuation. Mr. J agusch stated for true agricultural land they would look at different soil
types, different topography, and wetland versus woods versus tillable. Councilmember Knight asked
if someone was in agriculture preserve or green acres, how would they get looked at. Mr. Jagusch
stated in an agricultural preserve situation, that property would be valued based on comparables
taken outside of the seven county metro area of true agricultural sales that did not have a residential
influence. He stated green acres still carried a true market value based on what was going on in the
market area with all of the potential uses of that property, chiefly among them residential. He stated
the taxable value on green acres was arrived at in the same way as the overall market value was
arrived at in agricultural.
Councilmember Orttel stated they should decide if they were concerned that there were inconsistent
values within the City. If the residents in Andover were paying the same as people in surrounding
cities in similar circumstances as a totally separate issue and would come from a higher authority.
He asked ifboth of these were issues. Councilmember Knight stated if one was true then the second
one was affected. Councilmember Orttel stated there were pockets in the City that did not have
increases and some that did so this was an internal issue. He stated another thing they needed to
agree to was to try to get at the market value. Councilmember Knight stated it came down to the
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highest and best use definition, which means how much money the government could get out of the
property.
Councilmember Jacobson stated what they were seeing was if the job had been done correctly, and if
they assumed it was done correctly, why in one year was there such a huge increase. If it was
accurate in previous years, what was the reason for this. Councilmember Orttel stated it was because
they did not change last year's numbers and they should have.
Mr. Jagusch stated with regards to supply and demand, a lot more parcels were not on water, so there
was more supply than demand. Councilmember Jacobson stated that he found it hard to believe that
ifthe appraisals were accurate the last two to three years, why there was such a huge increase in one
year. Mr. Jagusch stated they were going to see fluctuations in the market. He stated the level of
assessment had been within two-tenths of a percent every year for the last five or six years.
Mayor Gamache stated they needed to address the other two properties. Mr. Jagusch stated that he
recommended an estimated market value of$460,80q. mid;¡ a limit &[S443. He stated he was in the
house last year. Wi-tt1 a... Ii (Y)í~ l1ìC\Yhc.t. VD.leK c~ 11 L1e~3('."~'
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Councilmember Jacobson asked what the breakdown in the land value was. Mr. Nielsen stated
$187,600 for the land and that was with the increase $159,000. After his argument with the
Assessor, it was brought down to $128,200 for the land. Mr. Jagusch stated the initial appeal was
on his land value and they saw no reason to change the structure value.
Mayor Gamache asked what the recommendation was for the third property. Mr. Jagusch stated the
third piece was already agreed upon. He stated the property was owned by Mr. Steven Nielson and
represented by his father, Mr. Nielsen. Mr. Jagusch stated he recornmended lowering that parcel to
$346,300.
Councilmember Jacobson asked what it was before. Mr. Jagusch stated it was at $360,000.
Councilmember Jacobson asked what the reason was for the adjustment. Mr. Jagusch stated they
made some adjustments on the land and this was also included in the inquiry the Council wanted the
Assessors to do into the Rum River land. He stated they not only looked at land on the water, they
looked at Timber River Estates.
Mayor Gamache asked ifhe had anything showing the Council the different property values. Mr.
J agusch stated he did but he did not have a map that showed what was changed. He stated in Timber
River they changed all the lots that abut the water. He stated they also changed thirty some lots on
the interior of the Timber River subdivision. He stated they lowered them. He stated they looked
farther south ofthe river and lowered seven or eight lots ITom $170,000 to the $130,000 or $140,000
range.
Mr. Erar stated the first priority would be whether the City Council as the Board of Review was
satisfied that the process and procedures employed by the County Assessor met the standards under
the definition of both the law and in terms of practice. He stated there were some questions related
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to specific properties in the community that suggested there might be some inconsistencies out there,
or some variations where Council was not satisfied with the explanation given. He stated that given
the fact that they were probably given some pretty detailed aspects of how the properties in question
were assessed, the best venue would be to have a workshop where the full Council could meet with
members of the County Assessor's office along with City staff. Or, a few Councilmembers could
represent the entire Council at a workshop during the day where some of the items could be
addressed and explained to Councilmembers' satisfaction. Then it could be brought back to a full
Council meeting. He stated the Council had until the end of month to decide what to do. He stated
this was a very important part of the process and when the tax statements come out next year, it
would be too late. He stated they needed to deal with it this year and ifthere was any questions in
their mind as the Board of Review, they needed to act upon them. If they were not comfortable with
moving forward with convening. then they should not.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if they should act on three appeals tonight, and noted there were a
number.of other questions regarding the process and how it was done. He suggested they should act
on what they had before them tonight and schedule a workshop in May. Mr. Erar stated that if they
wait until May, it would be too late to change things.
Mayor Gamache stated they should pick a few Councilmembers to meet the week of April 22 with
the County Assessor to discuss the issues. Councilmember Orttel stated he would feel better if they
would schedule a meeting with the full Council.
Ms. Hebert stated she was the Anoka County Assessor and also a real estate broker as well as a
certified federal general real property appraiser licensed by the State of Minnesota. She stated that
she brought information they present to the State regarding the average land values of all the
different types of property that the State requires they provide for Andover. She also had
information provided by the Board of Realtors explaining the average increase. She stated she had
internal documents they provide for Anoka County in preparation for truth in taxation regarding the
taxable market value increase of the properties and where Andover falls with all of these. She told
them in prior meetings that it was the Assessor's responsibility to let the Council know where
Andover fell and she would be willing to work with them and if there were some significant issues
that were discovered before the close of the Board of Review. She would like to continue working
on those issues through the County Board of Equalization. Ms. Hebert stated there were three issues
the Council wanted to discuss: the land values along the river, waterfront property around the lake,
and acreage properties. She stated they have maps regarding the total market value along the river,
the land value along the river, and the sales along the river. They have the same set of maps for the
waterfront property.
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Councilmember Trude stated Mr.Packc¡¡1Ï1l would like to address the Council.
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Mr. P-<lcKêiìim, 13890 Hol y Street NW, stated he was sorry he came so late with his inquiry but he
understood the Board of Review was still an open hearing. He stated he tried to call the County
Assessor yesterday but did not receive a call back. When he received his property taxes, he was not
too concerned about it. Last year his property values went up by $30,000 and this year they went up
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by $50,000. His initial reaction was if everything in the City was going up then he would not be
concerned. But from the discussion he had heard, it made a big difference if various parts ofthe City
were being assessed at higher rates of increase. He lives in Shadowbrook and did not believe the
value of his house went up $50,000 last year. Councilmember Jacobson asked ifhe was making an
official appeal.
Councilmember Trude stated that she lives in Shadowbrook and after the last hearing, she looked up
the value of the properties in the area. The lots were valued separately from the land and went up
seventy percent. They went from $45,900 to $76,900 and they are city lots, virtually treeless in a
new development. She pulled prices in Winslow Hills and Hills of Bunker Lake and none are at that
price, they were all in the $50,000's.
Mayor Gamache stated Mr. Nielsen would like to address the Board.
Mr. Nielsen, 4949 Marystone Boulevard NW, stated his valuation increase was too much and he --
made a call. It went up a total of$88,900 from $402,700 to $491,600 and he found out the increase
was in the land value. The land value went from $87,600 to $159,000. He asked why, where did the
Assessor have the comparabJes. In the end, the City Assessor did not have comparables. He stated
he told them he would do some checking. He found where the problem was and it was in Timber
River Estates. He restated what he talked about at the Board of Review meeting on April 16, 2002,
regarding Timber River Estates.
Mr. Nielsen stated his understanding and having been through tgisyrocedure before, they normally
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contact you; the City Assessor did not contact him until..§.;4e thIs evemng. The answer they gave
him was they were not going to do anything regarding his property. He stated he would have a
certified appraiser come out and appraise his property.
Mr. Nielsen stated that his statement for the public was, they thought he was the whistle blower so
they were not going to do anything regarding his property. The County Assessor has said they would
work with people, but they have not worked with people. The property in Timber River Estates was
on nice paved City streets and his property was on mud. He stated there was a problem on his
property, there was a problem on all kinds of properties that had gone up the same way and they say
there are comparables and there are not comparables.
Mr. Nielsen stated he wanted his property brought down to $115,000; it would still go up $44,000.
He would accept $115,000 but he would not accept $3,200 less than property that was larger, better
property than his. He checked the Rum River property in Ramsey, to see how much went up. The
increase percentage was 6.25 percent on every lot. He stated on the lot across the river from his
property, the increase was 6.31, 6.32 and one at 13.83 percent. He checked lots in Crooked Lake,
and they were not raised in Coon Rapids as they were raised in Andover. He checked the lots on the
Mississippi River, and those lots were much more valuable than Rum River lots. He stated no lot on
the Mississippi River had sold for $274,500. He stated he was complaining and he would continue
to complain on his property, his son's property and Mrs. Funk's property. He stated Mrs. Funk was
approached by the Assessor today and was led to believe she was satisfied but when he talked to her
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personally she said she was not satisfied. He stated the problem should be resolved and the citizens
of Andover have a right to know what was happening because the Council was sitting as a Board of
Equalization and they needed to equalize his property with someone else's property.
Councilmember Jacobson stated they should set a time and place for the workshop.
Councilmember Orttel stated there was an error that occurred in Timber River. Mr. Jagusch stated
they readjusted all the properties in Timber River. He stated the percentage increase was not
warranted on the property. Councilmember Orttel asked if everyone on the river got that or was it
just in that area. Mr. Jagusch stated Timber River was valued as its own entity; however, they also
value river lots in the same land zone. Mr. Jagusch stated all the parcels in Timber River had been
corrected. Mr. J agusch stated Mr. Nielsen's property was also corrected but it was not corrected as
much as Mr. Nielsen would like it to be.
Councilmember Knight stated his concern was if someone bad not brought this up, a lot of the
people would have been stuck with the higher value.
Mr. Jagusch stated throughout the Board of Review they had four appeals. Mrs. Funk stated to him
that she was satisfied and, in fact, told him that if she were to sell the property, she would sell it for
more then the County had it assessed for.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if April 25, 2002 at 2:00 p.m. would work for a workshop.
Mr. Jagusch asked if they wanted to take into consideration the recent appeal from Mr. Packemin.
Councilmember Trude stated they would.
Ms. Hebert stated that technically, once the first meeting was adjourned they were not supposed to
entertain additional appeals but the point was; they wanted to get at the accurate market value. She
would continue to review parcels if they were incorrect. The issue was, the market value and what
the property would sell for. Ms. Hebert stated there were some individual issues each of the
Councilmembers had and if they wanted to call her or Mary Boyle, they could address sorne of the
individual issues ahead of time and when they meet, talk in summary regarding those issues.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to continue the meeting to Wednesday, April 25, 2002
at 2:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT OF "ANDOVER MARKETPLACE"/COMMERCIAL
BOULEVARD AND THRUSH STREET
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Mr. Neumeister explained the applicant had requested a subdivision of property that was part ofthe
Andover Station redevelopment project. The two commercial lots comprise approximately 11.5
acres of land that the Andover Economic Development Authority (EDA) was planning to sell to
United Properties for a new grocery store and retail shopping center. Outlot B was to remain under
the EDA's ownership until United Properties exercised an option to purchase a portion at the
northeast comer of Commercial Boulevard and Quinn Street, approximately one year from now.
Councilmember Jacobson asked what Lot 2 was about. Mr. Neumeister stated Lot 2 was the smaller
freestanding lot in the center of their parking field in front of the shopping center and would be a
future restaurant site or a free standing building.
Councilmember Orttel asked if the entire portion of Lot I would be a grocery store. Mr. Neumeister
showed a map of the lots and stated on the northwest corner of the plat there was a separate building
that would be on Lot 1 in addition to the commercial strip center that was attached to the commercial
grocery store. This was beside Lot 2, which would be a freestanding building of sorne sort.
Councilmember Orttel asked if this was a PUD. Mr. Neumeister stated it was not reviewed or
approved as a PUD. At this point, their only request was the review of the grocery store.
Councilmember Orttel stated he was only asking because there would be a lot with no road frontage
because it cannot have access to Bunker.
Councilmember Knight asked if the parking would be sufficient once the second building went in.
Mr. Neumeister stated it would be.
Councilmember Jacobson asked Attorney Hawkins why they have Outlots A and B and why not call
them Parcel 2 and 3. Attorney Hawkins stated that Outlot B would be re-platted again. Outlot A is
the ponding area and they would convey that to the association.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item 31 (Consider Preliminary Plat of
"Andover Marketplace"/Commercial Boulevard and Thrush Street). (See resolution R069-02)
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER FINAL PLAT OF "ANDOVER MARKETPLACE"ICOMMERCIAL BOULEVARD
AND THRUSH STREET
Mr. Neumeister explained the City Council was asked to approve the final plat ofthe project to be
known as "Andover Marketplace". The final plat was found to be in compliance with the
preliminary plat and applicable ordinances. The action required was to adopt the attached resolution
approving the final plat with conditions.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item No. 32 (See Resolution R070-02
Approving Final Plat of "Andover Marketplace"/Commercial Boulevard and Thrush Street). Motion
carried unanimously.
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AMEND ORDINANCE NO. 160/ADJUSTING RENTAL INSPECTION LICENSE FEES
Mr. Neumeister stated Staff had recently discussed adjustments to the rental inspection license fees
(contained in Ordinance No. 260). This report contained background information and analysis on
why the fees needed to be adjusted for buildings that had fire suppression systems.
Mr. Neumeister stated the building staff collected data from five other cities regarding the fees that
they charge for rental licenses. Also, members of the Building, Fire and Community Development
Departments discussed what the proper level offees for a rental inspection should be based on the
amount and type of inspection work to be done. The fee ordinance would need some slight
modification to allow a fee to be charged that was based on the level of inspections and number of
units that were actually being inspected in these buildings every two years.
Mr. Neumeister stated the City Council was requested to amend Ordinance 260, allowing adjustment
to the rental license fee Ordinance for buildings with fire suppression systems.
Councilmember Trude asked if they should have a resolution on the policy of the inspection of
thirty-three percent ofthe units and buildings that have fire suppression systems. Right now, it is in
a memo to the Council and it makes a difference on how you read the fee structure. She stated when
they adopt policies they should have them in a Resolution form. Councilmember Orttel asked if it
had more of an affect in the Ordinance form. Councilmember Trude asked if they were planning on
adopting an Ordinance on that. She stated the current Ordinance was just on the fees, it was not
saying that on buildings with fire suppression systems it would be thirty-three percent of the units
every year. Chief Winkel stated they did need to have a resolution, and they do need to amend the
Ordinance. They could look at some language for a Resolution that would address that, but he was
not sure how they would do it.
Mr. Neumeister stated he would remove the wording "eJlee3t owner/occupied", delete parenthesis
and insert for in the Ordinance. Councilmember Trude stated she would take that as a fiiendly
amendment to the ordinance.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, to approve amended Item No. 33 (See Ordinance No.
260C - An Ordinance Establishing Permit Fees, Service Charges, and Various Other Fees to be
collected by the City of Andover). Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER REQUEST TO LEASE CITY PROPERTY LOCA TED AT 15961 MAKAH STREET
NW
Mr. Neumeister explained the Council was asked to consider a request ¡¡-om Mark and Patricia
Monroe to lease City property located at 4517 159th Avenue NW. This was property that Council
previously discussed (January 2, 2002) and decided to retain ownership.
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Mr. Mark Monroe stated they lived adjacent to the property and were afraid of what it might be sold
for. He stated they were told the plats were five-acre plats, would remain five-acre plats, and they
were fighting for the last three years to stop the lot splits. They were afraid the land could be sold for
a gas station location. They had been keeping an eye on the property and have cleaned up trash on
the property. They are asking permission to take care ofthe property with some type oflease to give
them first right of refusal. He stated that there were many different types of animals in that area.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if they had the ability to lease public land for private purposes.
Attorney Hawkins stated they could if there was a purpose for it, such as generating revenue to be
put into a private fund.
Councilmember Trude stated this would enhance the maintenance of the site. Councilmernber
Jacobson stated that if it was legal to do so, he would suggest the City Attorney draft a lease
document with the rate being $1 or $10 a year, with the restrictions that they cannot do anything to it
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Councilmember Orttel stated it should have a quick termination. He stated he was concerned with
the first right of refusal and would give Mr. Monroe the first chance to buy the property.
Councilmember Trude stated if they do this lease and needed to terminate it, Monroe would know.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if they needed to put a dollar amount in the lease. Attorney
Hawkins stated they would need to put that in the lease.
Councilmember Orttel stated they should put a no parking agreement in the lease too. Mr. Monroe
stated that it concerned him regarding the parking offor sale vehicles, on his property and he would
like this written into the lease.
Councilmember Jacobson stated the ¡ease should be for $1.00 a year.
Councilmernber Orttel asked if this would be an annual renewable lease. Attorney Hawkins stated
he would make this a thirty-day termination.
Councilmember Knight asked if they would get something to show they are leasing the property.
Attorney Hawkins stated they would get a copy of the lease.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve Item No. 34 (Consider Request to Lease
City Property Located at 4517_l59th Avenue NW). Motion carried unanimously.
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REQUEST FROM MR. LA 'MONT KNAZZE III TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIUDRAINAGE
EASEMENT
Mr. Erickson stated that Mr. Knazze is not in the audience. Attorney Hawkins stated this was
discussed and they feel the city has a prescriptive easement through that area. The water had drained
that way for many years. Mr. Erickson stated Mr. Knazze was copied on the agenda item.
APPOINT TAC MEMBERSI01-18/TRANSPORTATION PLAN
Mr. Erickson explained the City Council was requested to appoint a Transportation Advisory
Committee (T AC) to assist in the development ofthe City Transportation Plan.
The City Council previously authorized the preparation and development of a Transportation Plan
for the City of Andover. City staff has begun meeting with the City's Consulting Engineers from
Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik and Associates (BRA) to begin the development of the Transportation
Plan. A key component in the preparation of the transportation plan would be the appointment of a
Technical Advisory Committee (T AC) to provide technical input throughout the plan development
process. The T AC would be a technical committee, which would assist in identifying, and
recommending transportation related issues and improvements. The committee will be a diverse
technical group, which will meet monthly or bi-monthly to assist in the plan development. It was
recommended the Transportation Technical Advisory Committee be appointed as follows:
1. Scott Erickson, City Engineer (with Todd Haas as Alternate)
2. John Erar, City Administrator
3. Will Neumeister, City Community Development Director
4. Frank Stone, City Public Works Superintendent (with Irwin Russell as Alternate)
5. Kate Gerwood, Anoka County Transportation Specialist
6. Chuck Holden, Anoka Hennepin School District (or designee)
7. Mike Quigley, Business Representative/Andover Resident
8. Tim Kirchoff, Planning Commission! Anoka County Traveler/Andover Resident)
9. Dave King, Anoka County Sheriffs Department Representative (Dave Jenkins as
alternate)
10. Dan Winkel, Andover Fire Department Representative (or designee)
11. Don Jacobson, City Council Member (with Julie Trude as Alternate)
12. BRA Representative (Shelly Johnson, Kevin Hoglund and Stuart Kralm)
Councilmember Jacobson asked if this would be during the day. Mr. Erickson stated yes.
Councilmember Jacobson volunteered to be on the committee.
Councilmember Knight asked what specifically is the charge. Mr. Erickson stated this was the
Technical Advisory Committee to assist with the development of the City's transportation plan.
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Councilmember Trude stated that if Councilmember Jacobson needed an alternate, she would fill in.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to approve Item No. 36 (Appoint TAC Members/OI-
lS/Transportation Plan). Motion carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP/01-1SnRANSPORTATION PLAN
Mr. Erickson stated the City Council was requested to schedule a Council Workshop during the
week of May 20, 2002 to discuss the development of a Community Transportation Plan.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to approve Item No. 37 and direct staffto schedule a
Council Workshop to discuss the development ofa Community Transportation Plan on Thursday,
May 23, 2002 at 6:30 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER LMC BOARD OF DIRECTORS NOMINATION PROCESS
Mr. Erar stated the League of Minnesota Cities (LMC) was looking for individuals or elected
officials interested in serving on the Board of Directors for the LMC. They would be going
through the process within the next couple of weeks and then be having interviews at the annual
League of Minnesota conference in June. He wanted to know if anyone on the City Council was
interested in submitting their name or would like to be nominated to serve on the LMC Board of
Directors.
Mayor Gamache stated he did have an application that he was filling out. He stated there have
been a number of things that they had run into over the last year, and they needed to be a little
more proactive and work with these groups.
Councilmember Orttel stated that was a fantastic idea. He stated they needed to look at the
existing board and find out who they know because it is a very political process.
Councilmember Knight stated the Board needed to meet gender requirements as well as location
requirements. Councilmember Orttel stated they needed to find out who is on the Board and try
to lobby them.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to nominate Mayor Gamache as a candidate to the
League of Minnesota Cities Board of Directors. Motion carried unanimously.
MA fOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Elected Officials Meeting) - Councilmember Jacobson asked if they would be going to the meeting
on April 24, 2002. Mayor Gamache stated he would be going. Councilmember Orttel stated he
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would not be able to go. Everyone else stated they would be going. Mr. Erar stated he would get
them the information and directions on how to get there.
(Codification of Ordinances) - Councilmember Jacobson asked how they were coming on the
codification of the Ordinances that they had approved a long time ago. Mr. Erar stated he talked
with the City Clerk who was in charge of the project. They had sent them a table of contents, which
had been approved and were in the process of codifying the Ordinances. The Council should be
seeing something within the next thirty to sixty days.
(Memo Regarding Precinct Boundaries) - Mayor Gamache stated the voters who are living in the
precincts that had changed would be notified by the Anoka County in July of where they would vote
and where the new polling places would be.
(Signalization) - Mayor Gamache stated the light on Hanson and Crosstown Boulevard is moving
ahead and they should expect to see some work there this summer~
(High Water Concern) - Councilmember Knight stated he noticed the water level was up and
wondered if they had heard if anyone was having problems. Mr. Erar stated he was talking with Mr.
Dave Almgren and water was spiking but it is about an inch to two inches below what it was last
year.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Trude, for approval of the Claims. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTIONby Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The rneeting
adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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