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Regular City Council Meeting - Tuesday, February 5, 2002
. Special Economic Development Anthority Meeting - 5:45 PM - Conference Room A
Call to Order -'- 7:00 PM
I. Resident Forum
2. Agenda Approval
3. Approval of Minutes (1-15-02)
Consent Items
4. Approve Change Order #1/00-39/Chesterton Commons North 2nd Addition - Engineering
5. Approve Change Order #1/98-29/Grey Oaks (Supplemental) - Engineering
6. Reduce Letter of Credit/Developer's Improvements/W ood]and Estates 2nd Addition - Engineering
7. Reduce Letter ofCredit/Developer's Improvements/Woodland Oaks - Engineering .
8. . Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/O 1-27 /Creekside Estates 2nd Addition - Engineering
9. Accept Feasibility Report/02-10/Ashwood Estates (Lots 2 & 3, Block I) - Engineering
10. Accept Petition/02-13/Prairie Acres Addition (Lots I & 2, Block I)/SS & WM - Engineering
11. Order Supplemental Feasibility Report/00-42/ Aztec Estates - Engineering
12. Order Supplemental Feasibility Report/00-43/Natures Run - Engineering
13. Order FeasibiJity Report/OI-30/Prairie Road Reconstruction/2002 CIP - Engineering
14. Order Plans & Specs/02-3/2002 Crack Sealing/2002 CIP - Engineering
15. Order Plans & Specs/02-4/2002 Seal Coating/2002 CIP - Engineering
16. Order Plans & Specs/02-14/2002 Overlays/2002 CIP - Engineering
17. Order Plans & Specsl99-15/Water Treatment Plant/2002 CIP - Engineering
18. Approval to Advertise/Sell City Vehicles -Public Works
19. . Approval to Purchase New Forklift - Public Works
19a. Accept Resignation/Appoint Park and Recreation Member (Supplemental) - Engineering
Discussion Items
20. Review Residential Sketch Plan/Hans Hagen Homes/Property Located at 2054 Commercial Boulevard
NW - Planning
21. Review Residential Sketch PlanIBoone Builders/Foxburgh Crossing - Planning
22. Approve Ordinance Regulating Private Airfields & Ultralight Activity - Planning
23. Resident Concems/Fox Hollow Parking Issues/Oak View Middle School- Engineering
24. Appointment Recommendation/Community Development Director (Supplemental) - Administration
Staff Items
25. Reschedule March 5'b Council Meeting - Clerk
26. Schedule Board of Review- Clerk
Mayor/Council
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM ................................................................................................................. 1
AGENDA APPROV AL............................................................................................................. 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES......................................................................................................2
CONSENT ITEMS
Resolution R06-02 approving Change Order #1/00-39/Chesterton Commons
North 2nd Addition ..........................................................................................................2
Tabled ............ .............................................................................................................. ........ 2
Reduce Letter of CreditJDeveloper' s Improvements/W oodland Estates
2nd Addition..................................................................................................................... 2
Reduce Letter ofCredit/Developer's Improvements/Woodland Oaks ...............................2
Resolution R07-02 declaring Cost/Order Assessment RoIV01-27/
Creekside Estates 2nd Addition .=w............................................................................... 2
Resolution ROS-02 accepting Feasibility Report/02-10/Ashwood Estates
(Lots 2 and 3, Block 1)....................................................................................................2
Resolution R09-02 accepting Petition/02-13/Prairie Acres Addition
(Lots 1 and 2, Block 1)/SS and WM............................................................................... 2
Resolution RI0-02 ordering Supplemental Feasibility Report/00-42/ Aztec
Estates............................................................................................................................. 2
Resolution RII-02 ordering Supplemental Feasibility Report/00-43/Natures
Run..................................................................................................................................2
Resolution R12-02 ordering Feasibility Report/01-30/Prairie Road
Reconstruction/2002 CIP ................................................................................................ 2
Resolution R13-02 ordering Plans and Specs/02-3/2002 Crack Sealing!
2002 CIP ......................................................................................................................... 2
Resolution R14-02 ordering Plans and Specs/02-4/2002 Seal Coating!
2002 CIP ...................................................................................................... ................... 2
Resolution R15-02 ordering Plans and Specs/02-14/2002 Overlays!
2002 CIP ......................................................................................................................... 2
Resolution R16-02 ordering Plans and Specs!99-15/Water Treatment Plant/
2002 CIP ................................................................................................................. ........ 2
Approval to Advertise/Sell City Vehic1es............................................................................. 2
Approval to Purchase New Forklift ...................................................................................... 2
Removed ............................................................................................................................... 2
ACCEPT RESIGNATION/APPOINT PARK AND RECREATION MEMBER..................... 2
REVIEW RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN/HANS HAGEN HOMES/PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 2054 COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD NW ............................................... 3
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Table of Contents
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REVIEW RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN/BOONE BUILDERS/
FOXBURGH CROSSING .................................................................................................... 3
APPROVE ORDINANCE REGULATING PRN ATE AIRFIELDS AND
ULTRALIGHT ACTIVITY
Ordinance No. 261 regulating private airfields and ultralight activity........................... 7
RESIDENT CONCERNS/FOX HOLLOW PARKING ISSUES/OAK VIEW MIDDLE
SCHOOL............................................................................................................................... 7
APPOINTMENT RECOMMENDA nON/COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR (SUPPLEMENTAL) ....................................................................................... 8
DISCUSS AMM MEMO............=..........................................................................................9
RESCHEDULE MARCH 5TH COUNCIL MEETING .............................................................. 9
RESCHEDULE FEBRUARY 13TH PERSONNEL MEETING ................................................9
SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW ......................................................................................... 10
SCHEDULE TASK FORCE WORKSHOP ..............................................................................10
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Anoka Area Chamber of Commerce Meeting ...................................................................... 10
Cable Company Sound.......................................................................................................... 11
LMC Bulletin ........................................................................................................................ 11
Metropolitan Council.............................................................................. .............................. 11
Trail Letter............................................................................................................................ 12
Design on Round Lake Boulevard........................................................................................ 12
Note from Pov litski' s............................................................................................... ............. 13
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS ........................................................................................................ 13
ADJOURNMENT...................................................................................................................... 13
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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 5,1002
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Mike
Gamache, February 5,2002,7:01 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel, Julie Trude
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, Wí11iam Hawkins
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Finance Director, Jim Dickinson
City Planner, Courtney Bedn~
City Administrator, John Erar
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Ed Hamilton, 6615 Highway 10, Ramsey - Advised the Council that as ofJanuary 18th he has a
signed purchased agreement with Midwest Development Company. He would like the Council to
work with the Development Company if possible to help in any way to market the property.
Councilmember Jacobson asked what the developer was proposing for the area. Mr. Hamilton stated
he thought he was proposing a grocery store and other businesses and the developer had sent out
thirty packets to different places. Mr. Hamilton stated the developer would be coming to the Council
in the near future and he wanted to update the Council on the developments.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add to the Agenda Item 3, (Approval of Executive Session Minutes for January 15, 2002). Remove
from Consent Items to Table until next Council meeting, Items 5, (Approve Change Order #1/98-
29/Grey Oaks); Add to Consent, Item 19a, (Accept Resignation/Appoint Park and Recreation
Member); and Add to Discussion, Item 24a, (Discuss AMM Memo).
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Agenda as amended above. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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January 15, 2002, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
January 15, 2002, Executive Session: Correct as written.
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Orttel, approval of Minutes as indicated above. Motion carried
unanimously.
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 4 Approve Change Order #1/00-39/Chesterton Commons North 2nd Addition (See
Resolution R06-02)
Item 6 Reduce Letter ofCreditlDeveloper's Improvements/Woodland Estates 2nd Addition
Item 7 Reduce Letter ofCreditlDeveloper's Improvements/Woodland Oaks
Item 8 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Rol1/01-27/Creekside Estates 2nd Addition (See
Resolution R07-02) -
Item 9 Accept Feasibility Report/02-10/Ashwood Estates (Lots 2 and 3, Block 1) (See
Resolution R08-02)
Item 10 Accept Petition/02-13/Prairie Acres Addition (Lots 1 and 2, Block 1)/SS and WM
(See Resolution R09-02)
Item 11 Order Supplemental Feasibility Report/00-42/ Aztec Estates (See Resolution Rl 0-02)
Item 12 Order Supplemental Feasibility Report/00-43/Natures Run (See Resolution RII-02)
Item 13 Order Feasibility Report/01-30/Prairie Road Reconstruction/2002 CIP (See
Resolution RI2-02)
Item 14 Order Plans and Specs/02-3/2002 Crack Sealing/2002 CIP (See Resolution R13-02)
Item 15 Order Plans and Specsl02-4/2002 Seal Coating/2002 CIP (See Resolution R14-02)
Item 16 Order Plans and Specs/02-l4/2002 Overlays/2002 CIP (See Resolution RI5-02)
Item 17 Order Plans and Specs/99-l5/W ater Treatment Plant/2002 CIP (See Resolution R16-
02)
Item 18 Approval to Advertise/Sell City Vehicles
Item 19 Approval to Purchase New Forklift
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion carried
unanimously.
ACCEPT RESIGNATION/APPOINT PARK AND RECREATION MEMBER
Mayor Gamache stated the Council accepted the resignation of Chris English and the appointment of
Dorrie Peterson to complete the term of Park and Recreation member.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve Item No. 19a (Accept Resignation of Chris
English and to appoint Dorrie Peterson as a Park and Recreation Member). Motion carried
unanimously.
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REVIEW RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN/HANS HAGEN HOMESIPROPERTY LOCATED
AT 1054 COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD NW
Mr. Bednarz presented to the City Council a recap of the proposed development in Andover Station
and introduced Mr. Hagen. Mr. Hagen presented the residential sketch plans to the City Council.
It was noted by Councilmember Trude that the Council had met forty-five minutes ago in an EDA
meeting as members ofthe EDA Board with Mr. Hagen regarding these plans. She asked Mr. Hagen
to show the sidewalks and the tree area to the public. Mr. Hagen summarized the location of the
sidewalks and the tree save area to buffer the homes to the south.
Councilmember Trude stated this is a parcel ofland the City owns and residents came forward and
said this development will be an improvement to the area.
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REVIEW RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN/BOONE BUILDERS/FOXBURGH CROSSING
Mr. Bednarz presented a brief overview of the project and stated the City Council is asked to review
a residential sketch plan for a detached townhouse and single-family development. The project area
is approximately 6.25 acres and includes four existing properties between Hanson Boulevard and Ibis
Street NW on the north side of Andover Boulevard.
Mr. Bednarz stated the land would have to be rezoned ITom R3 to Ml in order to develop this land
with townhomes.
Councilmember Jacobson stated he was not in favor of rezoning the land. One reason was the
opposition from the neighbors was unanimous. He stated another reason was the additional traffic
from the Nature's Run Townhouse Project and Andover High School. He stated the Comprehensive
Plan did not envision that development and he did not think the Council needed to spend any more
time revising the Comprehensive Plan. He stated he did like the look of the units but that specific
comer would not be the appropriate place for this development. He stated the development would be
better suited on other property elsewhere in the City.
Councilmember Knight and Trude agreed with Councilmember Jacobson for the same reasons.
Councilmember Orttel stated that three out of five Councilmembers opposed the plan, and in order to
continue, they would need three out of five Councilmembers to approve the plan. Four out of five
Councilmembers are needed to get it put on the Comprehensive Plan Amendment, so he believed
they would be wasting everybody's time to go any further.
Mr. Bill Gleason, Grand Teton Development, stated he would like to continue on. He stated the land
was looked at from all angles and there is not much that could be done with it except use it for multi-
home or commercial development. He stated it would be cost-prohibitive to make the piece ofland
single- family development. He stated when they went to the Planning Commission neighbors were
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not in favor of multi-family homes on the land. Since then they have changed the plan to put single-
family homes that would buffer against the neighborhood. He stated the private drive is intended to
get the traffic off the public roads and into the garages. All the house fronts would be facing the
public roads. The private drive is not meant to be the only access to emergency vehicles, it is
intended to be used as an alternative for emergency vehicles; the intended main emergency route is
from the public roads.
Mr. Gleason stated that they have another development in Brooklyn Park in the Parade of Homes if
anyone would want to go and see what the townhomes would look like.
Mr. Steve Boone stated the Mayor came out to the development during the day in Brooklyn Park and
looked at it. He stated they had done everything the City had asked them to do to make the
development look nice.
Mayor Gamache asked what the value would be if a single-family development was built on the
property. Mr. Bednarz stated it would be impossible to have a public sixty-foot wide right-of-way
loop street on that land because by doing that l20-feet width ofland would be used up.
Mr. Gleason stated the price would be over $100,000 per lot, not including the housing. Mr. Boone
stated with a single-family house on the lot, the price would have to be around $400,000 in order to
justify the cost of the land.
Councilmember Trude stated for the record, she does not like bringing a road in between the new
development and the existing homes. She stated this would limit the neighbors in future expansion
or use of their property. She stated if a private road were put in, it should be put between the lots the
developer is building and not between the development and the existing homes. She stated the
streetscapes look good but another thing she did not like about the project was if a farnily with
children moved in, there would not be anywhere for the children to play except in the alleyway or
sidewalk areas. She stated that eight units per acre would be too dense for this location.
Mr. Gleason stated the type of buyer they would be looking at would not be people with children,
they would be working couples with no children, single people or retired couples. They have
designed this for a certain market segment. He stated that concerning density, townhomes have to
have density in order to get the value of the house. Mr. Boone stated they have allowed more space
between the townhouses than the average single-family house in the City. He stated most people
who buy townhomes do not have children.
Councilmember Trude stated this was true unless the townhouse was the only affordable housing
around.
Councilmember Jacobson stated to the public that a sketch plan is intended for the developer to get
input from the Council on what they like and dislike about the project, it does not mean that the
project would not be approved and that the developer could not continue with plans for the project.
Mr. Gleason stated that this is the reason they were there.
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Councilmember Orttel stated this proposal is premature because the City is still new to density
development and the City is moving slowly on these types of developments.
Councilmember Knight stated the Council has to listen to the residents. He stated the high school
and the new residential area is adding a lot of traffic to the area and the neighbors are against any
high density building in the area.
Councilmember Knight stated the average age is thirty-one in Andover and he does not understand
how the developer could base the townhomes on childless or retired couples.
Mr. Gleason stated the demand for townhomes is there and the upper bracket buyer does not want the
yard, they want to be able to do things on the weekends and leave the yard work to someone else. He
stated the biggest market they are seeing now is the single woman buyer; this was not seen a few
years ago.
Councilmember Orttel stated that Mr. Gleason should meet with the public and see what theírviews
are. Mr. Gleason stated they would be willing to go to the public and find out what the public wants.
Mayor Gamache stated another developer met with the neighbors to discuss their plans and get the
neighbors input and the City worked with the developer to set up the meeting. He stated the
townhomes in Brooklyn Park are very nice and if the public wanted to get a chance to see the
townhomes they could contact Mr. Gleason to look at them. Mr. Gleason stated he would meet with
the neighbors on this development before going forward on this project.
Mr. Gleason stated he would like clarification regarding the issue of the private drive. He stated the
only reason for a private drive is for the purpose ofthe people living there to get there. He stated the
private drive is not intended for emergency vehicle access. Councilmember Orttel stated the City has
an ordinance that prohibits private streets and that would be an issue the Council would need to
discuss to see ifthey needed to change their policy on that.
Mr. Boone asked what makes the Hagen development different than their development.
Councilmember Trude stated the main street through the Hagen Development is a public road.
Councilmember Jacobson stated the key issue is rezoning. If they cannot get it rezoned then nothing
else matters. He stated that three out of five Councilmembers do not want to rezone at this time.
Mr. Gleason asked if the lot would not be rezoned then why should they meet with the neighbors; it
seems like a waste of time. Councilmember Orttel stated that most ofthe neighbors object to the
development oftownhomes but ifmeeting with the neighbors lessens the objection, then it would not
be a waste.
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Mayor Gamache stated they should meet with the neighbors and see if the neighbors do change their
minds. If the consensus changes then at that time they could consider coming back to the Council for
rezomng.
Mr. Dan Stave, 1668 146,h Avenue NW, stated there is no opposition to this land being developed.
He stated the neighbors would like to have some input regarding the development of this land and
they would like to have single-family housing on the property. He stated the neighbors did not hear
about this development until the Planning and Zoning Cornmission meeting. He stated the density is
pretty high for townhomes to be on this property.
Mayor Gamache asked Mr. Stave if having seven single-family homes behind his home and then
having townhomes on the other side of 1451h Lane would be more reasonable to the residents. Mr.
Stave stated it is hard to picture from the sketches what it would look like from his backyard. He
stated there are many things the neighbors would need to sit down with the builder and address.
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Councilmember Knight asked Mr. Bednarz what the lot size is of the seven single-family lots. Mr.
Bednarz stated they would meet the lot depth requirements but they are narrower than the typical R4
lots. He stated they are eleven to twelve thousand square feet each.
Mr. Gleason stated they have houses that are designed for these lots. He stated that any tree that can
be saved would be saved; they would have a spade come and pull the tree out. He stated they would
plant the perimeter of the development for privacy. Mr. Gleason stated the lot would still meet the
City's setback requirement.
Ms. Carol Coper, 1690 1461h Avenue, stated they are not against development in the area, but they
are against the development of townhouses. She stated the seven single-family houses would be too
close together and would not be a buffer to the townhouses. She stated that when the neighbors
purchased their houses, they knew the property was zoned as single-family housing and if it was
developed, it would be developed as single-family, not townhomes. She stated the area is kid
oriented, there are schools around the neighborhood, so why wouldn't people with kids want to move
into the area. It does not make sense that the townhomes would be built with childless couples in
mind. She stated this property could not be commercial because Andover made a commitment to the
School District that there would be no commercial buildings built in the vicinity of the High School.
She stated that she believed the developer would be wasting his time with the neighbors unless he
decided to build single-family houses on the property.
Councilmember Orttel stated the City did not make any commitment to the School District regarding
commercial building. The only place commercial buildings cannot be built is next to City Hall.
Mayor Gamache stated he hopes the neighborhood would take some time to meet with the developer
regarding this.
Mr. Boone stated the times and days the model home would be open.
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APPROVE ORDINANCE REGULATING PRIVATE AIRFIELDS AND ULTRALIGHT
ACTIVITY
Mr. Bednarz stated Staffwas directed to prepare language that would require properties intended to
be used for landing strips to obtain an administrative permit from the City. The intent would be for
this ordinance to regulate all types oflanding strips. The discussion included providing criteria to
evaluate sites to determine whether or not the site was appropriate for this use, as well as
performance requirements to limit the impacts on adjacent properties.
Councilmember Trude commented on how much she appreciated what staff did to draw up the
ordinance. She stated this ordinance, if approved, would take away any public concerns they had
heard.
Councilmember Jacobson stated this ordinance is less obtrusive than a normal ordinance. It does not
restrict it but prmådes the community with a lot ofinfonnation on both sides of the issue.
Councilmember Orttel stated this ordinance is restrictive because it brings it up to a vote.
Motion by Trude, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item No. 22 (See Ordinance No. 261-An
Ordinance Regulating Private Airfields and Ultralight Activity). Motion carried on a 3- Yes, 2-No.
(Orttel and Gamache) vote.
RESIDENT CONCERNS/ FOX HOLLOW PARKING ISSUES/OAK VIEW MIDDLE SCHOOL
Mr. Erickson stated the City Council is requested to discuss the neighborhood parking concerns
identified by Mr. Paul Dudley, who resides in the Fox Hollow Neighborhood.
Mayor Gamache asked if there are any trails running from the development into Oak View. Mr.
Erickson stated there is a trail off of 153rd and Linette Street.
Councilmember Orttel asked if there is adequate parking. Councilmember Knight felt there is
adequate parking in the area.
Councilmember Orttel stated that maybe the City could put up temporary no parking signs. Mr.
Erickson stated they would need a resolution in order to put up no parking signs and the City Staff
would need to install them in the appropriate spots so they would be enforceable by the Sheriffs
Department.
Motion by Orttel to adopt a resolution to put up temporary no parking signs during athletic events at
the school facilities.
Councilmember Trude stated that maybe they should look at the City of Champlin and see how they
have dealt with the problem.
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Mr. Hawkins stated the City would need to be able to enforce the signs.
Councilmember Jacobson asked what is wrong with putting up pedestal signs on the Friday before
the events and taking them down the Monday after. Mr. Hawkins stated he has no problem with that
as long as City Staff is responsible for putting up and taking down the signs for each event.
Councilmember Orttel asked why they could not put up a permanent sign instead of always putting
up and taking down signs. He stated that over time that would cost a lot of money.
Councilmember Jacobson asked ifit would be legal to have no parking signs up without dates and
times posted on the permanent signs. Mr. Erickson stated that it would be difficult to determine
who would be parking there for the events and who would not. He suggested they draw up a
resolution with the City Attorney and come back to the Council with a sign they would propose to
install there and then staff would need to install them four to six times a year and take them down
after each event.
Councilmember Trude stated they should meet with the person who brought up this issue.
Mayor Gamache stated they should discuss this with Mr. Hawkins because they will be having
similar issues regarding this in the Lunds Evergreen Estates once the High School opens and they
start having events there.
Mr. Hawkins stated the Council should look at other communities and see how they have handled
this.
Mr. Erar suggested that staff come back with ideas on appropriate wording on a sign, meet with the
person who brought this up, and bring the ideas back to the meeting at the beginning of March.
Councilmember Orttel rescinded his motion.
APPOINTMENT RECOMMENDATION/COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
(SUPPLEMENTAL)
Mr. Erar presented the recommendation of Community Development Director. He reviewed the
qualifications of Mr. Will Neumeister and recommended the appointment of Mr. Neumeister for the
position of Community Development Director effective February 25th.
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Item No. 24 (To Appoint Mr. Neumeister for
the position of Community Development Director effective February 25, 2002). Motion carried
unanimously.
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DISCUSS AMM MEMO
Councilmember Jacobson stated they received a memo in their mailboxes regarding an (
application by Cornmissioner Kit Hadley of Minnesota Housing Finance Agency who released a
draft recommendation to the Legislature about some inc1usionary housing programs. He
recapped what the memo stated and indicated what some of the restrictions would be. He stated
the restrictions would be substantial and severe to the City if they were to become bills. He
suggested the City Council write a letter to their area Representatives and Senators and rnake
them aware of this so they could track it.
Councilmember Knight stated that in the metro section of the paper there was a large article
regarding this. Councilmember Trude stated the paper said the Senate had support for this but
the House did not. Councilmember Jacobson stated he was suggesting a letter to both the House
and the Senate.
Councilmember Knight suggested that the City should have someone there representing the City
if this would ever go to a hearing.
Councilmember Jacobson suggested staff pull up a copy of the draft legislation and write a letter
they could all sign stating why the Council is concerned and send a copy to the Representatives
and Senate and Mayors and Councils in surrounding cities. He also suggested sending a copy of
the letter to the newspaper, especially the community papers and let the residents know what is
going on.
RESCHEDULE MARCH 5TH COUNCIL MEETING
It was noted the Council is asked to reschedule the March 5th Council Meeting to either Monday,
March 4th or Wednesday, March 6,h. Precinct Caucuses will be held on Tuesday, March 5, 2002 and
Minnesota Election Law 202A.19 prohibits city councils from conducting meetings after 6:00 p.m.
on the day of a major political party precinct caucus.
Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to reschedule the Tuesday, March 5, 2002 Council Meeting
to Wednesday, March 6, 2002 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
RESCHEDULE FEBRUARY 13TH PERSONNEL MEETING
It was noted the Council is asked to reschedule the February 13th Personnel Meeting to either
Thursday, February 21 5t or Wednesday, February 27th.
Councilmember Trude suggested they add this meeting to a workshop meeting in March. Mr. Erar
suggested Tuesday, March 12'h.
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Motion by Trude, Seconded by Knight, to reschedule the February 13, 2002 Personnel Meeting to
Tuesday, March 12,2002 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW
It was noted that Anoka County has requested the City Council schedule the Board of Review. The
Board of Review needs to be held in April. Available dates are: Monday, April sth, Wednesday,
April 10th, Thursday, April 11 th or Monday, April 15,h.
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to schedule the Board of Review on Wednesday, April 1 0,
2002 at 7:00 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE TASK FORCE WORKSHOP
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Councilmember Trude stated that as long as they were scheduling meetings she wanted to know if
they should schedule the Task Force Workshop.
Mayor Gamache stated they should wait until the next City Council meeting on February 19th to set
that date.
Councilmember Trude asked ifthey would want to schedule a meeting for this month or next month.
Mr. Erar stated that a member of the task force who is also on the Council would not be able to
make a meeting this month and the entire Council should be at the meeting. The Council agreed.
Mr. Erar stated they could look at March for a meeting and suggested Thursday, March 7th.
Councilmember Trude stated they should add this to a workshop already scheduled in March.
Councilmember Orttel stated that would not work.
Mr. Erar asked if March 7th, 4th, 11th, 12'h or 13th, would work for the Council to meet. He stated
he would need to find out if these dates would work for the Task Force to meet also.
It was decided to add this meeting to the February 19, 2002 agenda.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Anoka Area Chamber of Commerce Meeting) - Mayor Gamache stated there would be a monthly
meeting on February 12, 2002 at 12:00 p.m. at the Links at Northfork. He stated the Chamber of
Commerce had asked the Mayors of the cities to give a five-minute brief wrap up ofthe state of the
City.
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(Cable Company Sound) - Councilmember Jacobson stated that the current Council meeting was
being televised but without sound. Mr. Erar stated this was not the entire fault ofQCTV. They had
sent out technicians to check on the problem. The sound was working at the time. He stated the
rebroadcast will have sound.
Councilmember Jacobson stated he, Mr. Erar, and QCTV met regarding the A V requirements. He
stated QCTV would be coming back with a list of equipment. He stated at that point they would be
getting bids.
Councilmember Trude asked if the equipment included new microphones so they could have
workshops using the room. Councilmember Jacobson stated they are looking at four new cameras
and a dedicated computer for PowerPoint presentations.
Councilmember Trude stated she looked at the QCTV minutes and noticed they had a surplus but are
not giving the City the money they said they would for equipment.
Councilmember Jacobson stated they are looking at a budget figure of$100,000. Councilmember
Trude stated they were talking of paring that down because the building was costing more.
Councilmember Jacobson stated they would see what the bids came in at, but he thought they could
still get $100,000. Councilmember Trude stated that for the record she wants them to cut the square
footage down on the building ifit comes in over budget.
(IMC Bulletin/Redistricting Article) - Councilmember Trude recapped the article from the LMC
bulletin. She stated that four of the current Councilmembers would be in a different district than
they are now. She would like a proposal where Andover was the main part of the district and
feedback from other cities. Councilmember Trude would like to have staff draft a letter to the
Minnesota Special Redistricting Panel stating they would like to have Andover be within one House
and Senate District and possibly pair up with Ham Lake or Ramsey, instead of splitting up the City.
Councilmember Orttel agreed.
(Metropolitan Council) - Councilmember Trude stated the Metropolitan Council formally adopted
the City's Comprehensive Plan.
Councilmember Trude stated the Council received a letter /Tom one of the landowners within the
study area and she had not responded to the landowner personally. She asked if staffwould be able
to draft a letter.
Councilmember Orttel stated he talked personally with the landowner and he understands the process
better. He stated he suggested the landowner talk to staff regarding this.
Councilmember Trude stated she thought it was important the landowners understand why their land
is under study, how they will get it zoned for the future, and if it would have sewer or not.
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Councilmember Orttel stated the Council needed to keep in mind that the landowners had parcels
they had developed and they do not like the idea that their property is frozen. He stated he explained
to the landowners that it may not take the entire eighteen months and they may be put into a district
where there may be a restriction. He stated they understood more about what was going on.
Mr. Erar stated the staff would be having several meetings with the landowners regarding the
property in the area. He stated his office and the City Planner had been actively responding to
landowner's questions regarding the issue of what would be happening next.
Councilmember Trude stated that they should inform the Planning Commission that the Metropolitan
Council has accepted their Comprehensive Plan.
(Trail letter) - Mayor Gamache asked Mr. Erickson about the letter regarding the trails and a
meeting with the residents in the Rum River Elementary area. Mr. Erickson stated he sent out
another letter to the residents asking if there was any interest to work on a trail connection to the
school. He stated he gave them a deadline date of February Sth to get back to staff so they could
move forward with their discussion.
Councilmember Trude suggested staff contact the principal of the school to include this in their letter
to every parent. Mr. Erickson stated staff had asked the property owners around the school if they
were willing to work with them on providing an easement for the trail. Mr. Erar stated a staff
member had been in contact with all the property owners at the meeting. He stated they had very
little success and they had utilized every means of communication possible with the residents. He
stated they do not feel they will have any success in trying to work with any of the property owners.
He stated they would probably go back to the original plan with the trail being on Verdin and then
Council would have to decide ifthat would be something to go with or not to provide a trail for any
of the students.
Councilmember Trude stated that if the trail would go on Verdin, they would need to look into tree
removal and how far from the road the trail would be. Mr. Erickson stated they could provide an
aerial view of the road. Councilmember Trude stated that would help the residents as well as the
Council.
Mr. Erar stated once Council authorized them to move forward, engineering would conduct a
feasibility study. He stated that a feasibility study would describe the types of actions the City would
have to take in terms of trying to install a trail. He stated that before the feasibility study would be
done, Council would need to decide if they want or need a trail there.
Councilmember Trude stated there are other places a trail could go in that would work.
(Design on Round Lake Boulevard) - Councilmember Orttel stated the County is starting to get into
design on Round Lake Boulevard. He stated they would need to make sure the City Council meets to
approve the intersection of the possible Andover Boulevard going across the low area.
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Councilmember Orttel stated he understood the County was going to put the trail on the east side of
Round Lake and he thought the object of the trail was to get to Kelsey Park. He stated crossing
Round Lake is impossible and the City Council should look into that. He stated the County said it
was too steep on the west side so they did not want to put the trail on that side. Mr. Erickson stated
that was true. He said the County would have difficulty filling the flood plain along Round Lake.
He stated the County had changed the plans since the neighborhood meeting.
(Note from Pov/itski 's) - Councilmember Jacobson stated he had a note from Povlitski's regarding
the outdoor event. Mr. Erar stated this would be brought up at the meeting on February 19,h. He
stated it was pulled from this meeting agenda because they did not get the information they needed.
Mr. Erar had two items he needed clarification on. He asked if the Mayor should sign the letter
Councilmember Trude brought up regarding the LMC Bulletin article. Councilmember Trude stated
that would be fine.
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Mr. Erar asked what should be done on the inclusionary housing recommendations. He stated
Councilmember Jacobson had indicated his thoughts about a direction and how it should be
distributed and signed. He did not get Council's input.
Councilmember Orttel stated they should get the full Councils' signatures on the letter and send it to
the elected officials and the cities bordering Andover. Mr. Erar stated he would get a letter drafted
by the end of the week,
Councilmember Jacobson asked if Mr. Erar could get them the number of the Senate bill. Mr. Erar
stated he would be doing research on that.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, for approval of the Claims. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 9:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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