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City Council Workshop
Tuesday, June 30, 2020
Council Chambers
Call to Order — 7:00 p.m.
2. Comprehensive Plan Update Discussions—Administration/Planning
Other Business
4. Adjournment
Some or all members of the Andover City Council may participate in the June 30, 2020 Special
City Council meeting by telephone or video conference rather than by being personally present
at the City Council's regular meeting place at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, MN 55304. Members of the public can physically attend, although there is very
limited seating in the City Council Chambers as appropriate social distancing will be done by
the Council and visitors.
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FROM: Joe Janish, Community
SUBJECT: 2040 Comprehensive Plan
Administration
DATE: July 1, 2020
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DISCUSSION
Metropolitan Council has reviewed the 2018 Comprehensive Plan Update. The Metropolitan Council
(Met Council) has determined our submittal to be incomplete. Staffed worked with the City Council to
address concerns/changes that Met Council raised. One of the primary items the Met Council raised was
the density proposed by the City of Andover.
Originally the density calculations used for the recent submittal to the Met Council dated back to the early
2000's. This recent submittal staff attempted to use the same "mathematical formula" for density as in
the past, however, Met Council indicated new calculations are required. This caused the need for several
work sessions with the City Council. City staff and City Council met to discuss density and appropriate
locations for more dense development.
City staff originally identified areas for additional density based on transportation, sewer capacity,
acquisition costs, land uses around the locations, and additional criteria. With City Council input and
direction the Future Land Use Plan presented on June 23, 2020 was developed.
During our June 23, 2020 Council Work Session meeting, City Council did not appear to have enough
support for the Future Land Use Map as drafted. Staff took away that there are two areas of concern.
Those two areas are the redevelopment area along Bunker Lake Blvd and at the intersection of 7t° Avenue
and Bunker Lake Blvd.
#1) BUNKER LAKE BLVD.
Currently the proposed Future Land Use map shows the interior portion (between 138`h and
Bunker Lake Blvd.) of the redevelopment area as 12 to 20 units. A concern was noted that the 5
acres is slated for Urban Residential High Low (URHL) -12 to 20 units per acre in this area is too
high. This member noted this are should be Urban Residential Medium (URM) with a range of 8
to 12 units per acre.
Staff noted that at this time the area is developed roughly at 8 acres as each four plex is on
approximately % acre. If the City Council desires to reduce the density on this property it will
reduce the potentially affordable component of our math problem. This means additional land
will be needed with a density of at least 8+ unit per acre to make up the loss of affordable units.
If the Council added only 4 units per acre it does not increase the affordable number, meaning we
are exceeding the Met Council requirements for density.
#2) 7TH AVE & BUNKER LAKE BLVD.
Currently this area slated for 8.8 acres of Urban Residential High (URE) with 20 to 25 units per
acre. A concern was noted that this is also too high of density in this location and should be
reduced. If this area is reduced the new areas will need to be at least URM - 8 units per acre as
this made up a large portion of our affordable units.
IMPACTS TO ADJUSTING DENSITIES
Any changes to the density at this time will require staff to revise all 6 chapters of the
comprehensive plan and incur additional time delays and costs. The delays could have
unintended consequences such as impacting draft/proposed developments that are looking at
moving forward by securing approvals. A change tonight would push back the submittal to the
Met Council for their review from August to November or December. The Met Council then has
several months to review the plan prior to official adoption by the City Council and this assumes
no additional comments by the Met Council.
ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS
Staff will be present in attempt to assist in evaluating alternative locations for density
modifications.
ATTACHED MAPS
Staff has included the maps used during the work sessions in order to help review the meeting
minutes and also to consider other areas that may have been considered in the past.
ACTION REQUESTED
The City Council is requested to entertain discussion related to density in the Draft Comprehensive Plan
and provide feedback to staff regarding future land use, and physical locations.
ATTACHMENTS:
Density of Development Handout/Slides
October 22, 2019 Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes
November 6, 2019 Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes
November 12, 2019 Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes
November 19, 2019 Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes
January 28, 2020 Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes
Existing Ml -M2 Zoning Map
OLD Future Land Use Map Option #1 DATE 11062019
OLD Future Land Use Map Option #2 DATE 11062019
OLD Future Land Use Map Option #I Revised DATE 11062019
OLD Future Land Use Map Option #2 Revised DATE 11062019
OLD Future Land Use Map Option #2.1 DATE 11122019
OLD Future Land Use Map Option #2.2 DATE 11122019
PROPOSED DRAFT Future Land Use Map
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Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes —October 22, 2019
Page 12
- Trude stated residents contact Councilmembers because they are elected so Council hears
of the complaints. She urged the Park Commissioners to contact staff if they were
.V,.d and questioned by residents and did not know the responses.
Commissioulk, Widmyer spoke about the Parks Department needing more money for
maintenance an eplacement. He brought up charging fees for associations that use the parks.
Mayor Trude responde that initiating association fees is a politically charged issue. She stated
she understands that the Ci has more turf that needs to be mowed and more irrigation.
Commissioner Perra stated the ty needs to recognize the cost of adding irrigation means
additional maintenance and would li to add more natural areas.
Park Commission Chair Lindahl stated the is a trend for decreased mowing and the City can
become a trendsetter.
Mayor Trude brought up pickleball and stated she wa ontacted by residents saying Andover is
the only City around that does not have outdoor courts.
Park Commission Chair Lindahl stated the Park Commission looked at it but there hasn't
been a big push. He responded that most pickleball players usecommunity center indoor
facilities.
The Park and Recreation Commissioners left the meeting. \
g. 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE DISCUSSION
Mr. Janish explained the 2040 Comprehensive Plan has been deemed incomplete and there is a T
discrepancy between what the City believes population growth will be and what the Met Council
has determined. This discrepancy is based on density rates within the MUSA boundary. Mr.
Janish informed the Council that the Met Council uses the lowest number of the City's zoning
range. The Met Council also uses gross land and not net land which takes out undevelopable
areas. Mr. Janish stated this process is bringing the population projection down. Mr. Janish
stated staff is looking for direction from Council on what variables to use and presented staffs
recommendation.
Mr. Janish stated staff would like to make the following changes: use net, not gross land; set low
density at 2-4 units per acre; set medium density at 4-9 units per acre; and set high density at 9-
16 units per acre. Medium density always goes through a PUD to ensure distribution of density;
setting the number at 9 allows the ability to build affordable housing.
Councilmember Holthus clarified that staffs proposal is keeping Andover with the same
development standards but demonstrates the opportunity for affordable housing to meet the Met
Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes — October 22, 2019
Page 13
Council standards.
Mr. Dickinson stated Councilmember Holthus is correct. He stated the City has 91 acres of
medium density and 112 acres of high density. He stated if we make changes to the
Comprehensive Plan after it is approved then the City would go through a Comprehensive Plan
Amendment.
Mr. Janish stated if the plan is not approved, Andover won't be able to extend the MUSA line
Mr. Dickinson presented other options of meeting the Met Council standards such as making the
family lot size lower and using the PUD process. He stated the last time the City made a
significant update to the Comprehensive Plan was the year 2000, the last submission proposed no
changes.
Mr. Janish presented locations where Andover could have medium or high-density zones based
on sewer capcity. He compared it to developments already completed in the City. He assured
the Council that density pockets will need to be spread out due to pipe capacity. If Council is
open to these ideas, staff can fine tune the areas where medium and high density is most feasible.
Mr. Dickinson stated staff can bring this item back to the November 6th workshop meeting. He
stressed the need for Council to define the strata and staff presented these numbers to Council as
a practical way to maintain the current format for how Andover is developing. When Council
decides on the strata, staff can identify smaller pockets where medium and high density is
preferred.
Mr. Janish stated staff is presenting a realistic number and not changing the character of
Andover.
Mayor Trude stated the Council is more concerned about medium density because it will make
Andover look more like Blaine.
Councilmember Bukkila would like to see what Mr. Janish comes up with regarding medium and
high-density locations at the next meeting.
Mr. Janish stated as the number for the low end of the ranges is increased, the less acreage the
City needs to identify at that density.
Mayor Trude stated she would prefer single-family housing on smaller lots rather than 3-4 level
townhomes.
Mr. Janish clarified the consensus of the Council was to have flexibility on the low residential
range, bring back proposed locations for high and medium density, and present this information
to Council at the November 61h workshop.
Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes — October 22, 2019
Page 14
ZCouncilmember Knight left the meeting 9:15 p.m.
h. 2020-2024 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT UPDATE DISCUSSION
Mr, ickinson provided an update on health care negotiations. He informed the Council that
Health artners has proposed a 29% increase over 2019 and Andover is now above average for
rates. H resented the options for the City to control the increase and provide good health care
benefits as uch as possible. Mr. Dickinson presented the following information:
Health artners - 29% increase
Blue Cr o Blue Shield — exceeded HealthPartner's increase
Medica — % increase
Sourcewell, eferred One, and United Health— declined
PEEP — value p n 34.24% increase; however, the HSA plan is competitive but changing
to a completely di erent environment with a co -pay and referral environment (not open
access).
Mr. Dickinson stated to stay wit 'n an open access plan the best he can do is institute an HRA
with a 10-14% increase. He pre nted the bigger question of what type of employer does
Andover want to be. He stated it is competitive marketplace, and if the City is not providing
good health insurance, the City is not go'g to be as competitive in the job market.
�IsCouncilmember Bukkila pointed out that ere are employees in two different buildings on the
City campus and when one person gets sick, tends to spread quickly. She stated if costs are too
high, employees won't go to the doctor and wi come to work sick, spreading the illness.
Mayor Trude asked if employees pay anything t6kyards the premium and most places have
employees pay something. Mr. Dickinson responded tke City covers the entire cost for the lower
level single coverage and contributes towards family cov age.
Councilmember Bukkila stated she used to get free singleoverage, but now pays for single
coverage. She stated her employer has multiple levels of verage: single, employee plus
children, employee plus spouse, and family. Mr. Dickinson re onded if the City had those
options, the family cost will go higher.
Mr. Dickinson stated the City provides options for two plans: one withI�wer out of pocket and
one with a higher deductible.
Councilmember Barthel asked what the employees preferred. Mr. Dickins responded it
depends on who you talk to. He asked Council to take the information and think al,,ut it so they
could provide guidance.
Mayor Trude stated it's not just a financial issue, it's also a retention and recruitment isstit The
Council concurred. \
Mr. Dickinson concurred and relayed that Andover has lost staff to neighboring cities and
ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING — NOVEMBER 6, 2019
\ MINUTES
The Workshop Meetin f the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Julie Trude,
November 6, 2019 6:00 p. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Sheri Bukkila, d Jamie Barthel
Councilmember absent: Mike Knight, Valerie
Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinso
Community Development Director, Jo .
Director of Public Works/City Engineer,
Others
2090 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE DISCUSSION (Continued from October 22,
2019)
Mr. Janish summarized the Comprehensive Plan discussion from the Council Workshop on
October 22, 2019. Mr. Janish explained staff utilized feedback from the work session and
created two options for Council to consider. Mr. Janish stated the goal is to meet the minimum
standards the Met Council has set for density and affordable housing. Mr. Janish presented three
maps, one showing current density and two showing the options staff is presenting.
Mr. Janish referred Council to Future Land Use Map Option 1. Mr. Janish pointed out the areas
designated for Urban Residential Medium (URM, M1) including the church property and the
Holasek property. He stated the Sonsteby property would be designated Urban Residential High
(URH, M2).
Mayor Trude cautioned against using the church property along the railroad north of 161st
Avenue due to the possibility of the church expanding or selling off property to build houses.
Mayor Trude stated she has an issue with zoning this property medium density with it being
adjacent to a neighborhood with 2.5 acre lots or larger, making it a mixed-use neighborhood and
presenting potential problems. Mayor Trude stated the Holasek property was more appropriate
for medium density.
Mr. Dickinson explained the church property will be zoned medium density but can be
developed for a church expansion using a Conditional Use Permit (CUP).
Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes — November 6, 2019
Page 2
Mr. Janish gave the Council another option of zoning an outlot within Andover Station North as
high density which is owned by the EDA.
Councilmember Bukkila stated she did not support that option because the land is more valuable
as commercial property.
Councilmember Barthel stated zoning an area of Andover Station North as high density is a good
option because the development of that EDA land is projected way into the future and the City
has control over the development of the property.
Mr. Dickinson stated staff has presented two options and believes the final option is somewhere
in between.
Mr. Janish presented Option 2 which limits shows land for Urban Residential Medium (URM,
Ml) scattered in strategic locations throughout the City. The density range for Urban Residential
Medium of 4 units per acre to 9 units per acre. The density range for Urban Residential High of 9
units per acre to 16/20 units per acre but would leave the City short of 100 affordable units.
Councilmember Barthel asked for clarification regarding the minimum units for Urban High
Density and can there be a gap between medium and high.
Mr. Dickinson stated it would be better to add a different zoning district in between high and
medium instead of leaving a gap.
Mayor Trude stated the redevelopment area may be prime for higher density. Mayor Trude
would like to see higher density in the redevelopment area. Mayor Trude identified a property
near Prairie Knoll Park and asked if that would be appropriate for medium density.
Councilmember Barthel stated he would like the medium density property identified around the
high school to be taken off the map and have staff look at other options.
Councilmember Bukkila would like to see two options for medium — a medium low and a
medium high to have a little more control over the density and not such a large range.
Mayor Trude stated the community is more open to twin homes and townhomes rather than
apartment buildings with multiple floors. Mayor Trude stated that higher density is better along
busier roads with better access.
Councilmember Barthel reinforced his preference for using the ballfield land for high density.
Councilmember Bukkila stated she would like to see medium low in neighborhood areas and
medium high along arteries and a plan that allows for good transitions.
Mayor Trude stated the City likes single-family homeowner -maintained homes and association -
maintained homes.
Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes—November 6, 2019
Page 3
There was a significant amount of discussion regarding the ranges for density and appropriate
locations for each type of density. Various parcels were discussed including: the Holasek
property, the Sonsteby property, Centerpoint property, land along the railroad tracks, the
redevelopment district and the ballfields at Andover Station Park.
Council came to a consensus on density ranges:
Low 2.2-4
Medium Low 4-8
Medium High 8-12
High Low 12-20
High 20+
Council directed staff to take the feedback from the Workshop discussion and return with
additional options at the next Council Workshop on November 12, 2019 with the goal of
reaching the Met Council requirements. t
60MMUNITY VISION, GOALS AND VALUES DOCUMENT REVIEW
Not
OTHER BUSINESS
There was none.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Barthel, to adjourn. Motio rried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 6:54 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Shari Kunza, Recording Secretary
ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING —NOVEMBER l2, 2019
MINUTES
The Workshop Meeting e Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Julie Trude,
November 12, 2019 6:00 p. ., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover. Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Sheri Bukkila, Iv11k<Knight, Valerie Holthus, and Jamie Barthel
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinson
Community Development Director, Joe
Others
2090 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE DISCUSSION (Continued from November 6,
2019)
Mr. Janish summarized the previous workshops, discussion, and Council consensus related to
this item. Staff took the feedback from work sessions on October 22, 2019 and November 6,
2019 and developed a plan to meet Met Council standards and maintain the character of
Andover. Staff developed two new land use designations: Urban Residential Medium Low
URML) and Urban Residential High Low (URHL). The designations and min/max units are
listed below in the table:
Designations
Min. Units
Max. Units
Urban Res. Low (URL, R4)
2.2
4
Urban Res. Medium Low (URML, M1)
4
8
Urban Res. Medium (URM, M2)
8
12
Urban Res. High Low (URHL, H1)
12
20
Urban Res. High (URH, H2)
20
25
Council reached consensus on adding new Land Use Designations.
Mr. Janish referred to the map to show Council where each land use is proposed by staff to reach
the Met Council requirements. He indicated Urban Residential Medium (URM) located along
major roadways or the railroad tracks.
Mayor Trude asked if Council could have flexibility in the plan. Mr. Janish stated there will be
flexibility and the developer will have to go through the PUD process for higher densities. Mayor
Trude would like to allocate areas with natural buffers as higher density to ensure smooth
Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes—November 12, 2019
Page 2
transitions between neighborhoods.
Council discussed condensing higher density in specific locations or spreading it around the City.
Councilmember Bukkila stated there can be problems when you isolate higher density in one
area. Mayor Trude preferred larger properties of density as long as there are smooth transitions
and less impact on neighborhoods with larger lots.
Councilmember Holthus did not like the smaller pockets of higher density that did not blend in
with the surrounding neighborhoods. She stated which areas she felt were more appropriate for
higher density.
Council and staff discussed locations for each type of land designation to meet Met Council
requirements and maintain the character of Andover.
Mr. Dickinson explained the map reflects locations where existing pipe can support higher
density. He also stated that the designation of land use on the map is a long-term plan and the
development of these areas are far off in the future.
Mayor Trude would like input from the Planning and Zoning Commission and the public before
changing land use.
Councilmember Barthel asked about the process once Council approves a Land Use Plan. Mr.
Janish stated the updated Land Use Plan: would go to Planning and Zoning Commission; staff
would update the Transportation Plan; staff would investigate how it impacts other areas of the
Comprehensive Plan; and staff would hold public meetings. The plan will then be sent back to
the Met Council for comment and then back to the City for approval. Mr. Janish stated there is a
development on hold waiting for the completion of the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Janish summarized the discussion of Council:
1. Andover Station North Ballfields out of rezoning
2. Centerpoint Energy property at URH (20-25)
3. North Sonsteby property at URH (20-25)
4. Crosstown/Bunker Redevelopment area: outer edge URHL (12-20) and interior URH
(20-25)
Council continued the discussion and Mr. Janish stressed the importance of Council consensus
prior to taking it to the Planning and Zoning Commission and the public. Mr. Janish went
through each property and asked for Council consensus.
Mayor Trude stated that staff will take the consensus of the Council and ensure the numbers
work. Staff will return at the next workshop meeting for a final plan.
ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING —NOVEMBER 19 , 2019
MINUTES
Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Julie Trude,
2019 8:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover,
Councilmembers present:
Councilmember absent:
Also present:
Mike Knight, and Valerie Holthus
Jamie Barthel
City Administrator, Jim Dickinsoii�
Community Development Director, Joe
Others
2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE DISCUSSION (Continued from November 12, , t
2019)
Mr. Janish gave background information regarding the Comprehensive Plan submitted to the Met
Council. The Met Council requires 3 units per acre for land within the MUSA line and the past
few workshops have been focused on zoning land at various densities to reach the Met Council
requirements. Mr. Janish stated the consensus the Council reached at the November 12,
Workshop exceeded the 3 units per acre requirement. Mr. Janish explained that Council can
adjust the densities to get closer to 3 units per acre rather than exceeding it. Mr. Janish explained
that any area zoned 8 units per acre or higher is deemed to be affordable housing, however, does
not have to be built as affordable housing.
Mr. Janish reviewed the categories for Council discussion:
Designations
Min. Units
Max. Units
Urban Res.
Low (URL, R4)
2.2
4
Urban Res.
Medium Low (URML, Ml)
4
8
Urban Res.
Medium (UR.M, M2)
8
12
Urban Res.
High Low (URHL, Hl)
12
20
Urban Res.
High (URH, H2)
20
25
Councilmember Bukkila stated she would like to reevaluate the Crosstown and Bunker Lake
Boulevard area. Councilmember Bukkila stated she would like to see the entire area (11.5 acres)
be URM, M2 at 8-12 units per acre. Councilmember Holthus discussed zoning the entire 11.5
acres as URHL at 12-20 units per acre. Mayor Trude concurred. Councilmember Bukkila stated
she preferred to not build an apartment building unless the City had to.
Andover City Council Workshop Meeting
Minutes — November 19, 2019
Page 2
Councilmember Holthus inquired about the property at Round Lake Boulevard and asked if the
zoning of the area made sense. Mayor Trude asked if the entire area could go URML (4-8 units
per acre). Mr. Dickinson stated it currently met the criteria for affordable housing and if Council
dropped it below 8 units per acre, it would not qualify as part of the affordable housing
computation. Mr. Janish reviewed the adjusted density number as a result of the two changes
which resulted in Council being very close to the Met Council requirements.
Councilmember Bukkila stated the 11.5 acres at Crosstown Boulevard is designated at too high
of a density and would result in an apartment building size which she is not in favor of. Mayor
Trude stated the City can bring it to URHL. Councilmember Holthus asked if it were zoned at
URM (8-12 units per acre), would the City have anyone interested in developing it. Mr.
Dickinson stated eventually the City would find an interested developer. Mr. Dickinson stated a
zoning of URM (8-12 units per acre) could result in four-plex structures being built which
currently are very valuable. Councilmember Holthus asked if zoning it URM would still qualify
as affordable. Mr. Janish responded yes.
Mayor Trude discussed the desire of the EDA in getting rid of the older, less desirable apartment
buildings in Andover and replacing with something new. Councilmember Bukkila stated there is
concern from residents about a large apartment building. Mayor Trude stated it was the size of
the building that concerned residents. Mayor Trude explained Grey Oaks had residents renting in
that area because there weren't any other options. She stated at that time, the City expressed a
desire for a nice market rate apartment building for residents in transition.
Mr. Dickinson explained a developer who may want to build higher density housing than what
the area is zoned for, could apply for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment and go through a public
notification process with their proposal.
Councilmember Holthus stated nothing would happen on the Crosstown Boulevard property
until the owners wanted to sell and the City could see no change in that area for a very long
time. Councilmember Bukkila expressed concern that if the City makes the property attractive to
a large apartment builder, the City will get offers. Mayor Trude noted Andover will not allow
large apartment complexes to come in at 50 units per acre. Mayor Trude stated a70 -unit
building is a three-story complex like Arbor Oaks.
Mr. Janish reviewed the discussion with Council and stated the changes he had in his notes
including 11.5 acres at Crosstown and Bunker area at 12-20 units per acre. Councilmember
Bukkila asked if the 6.5 acres located on Crosstown and Bunker could be zoned at URM instead
of URHL. Mr. Janish reviewed the numbers and stated that change would bring Andover short
of the Met Council limit. Adjustments to other areas were made to change the 6.5 acres to URM.
Mayor Trude asked if the sliding hill next to the ballparks could be zoned URM. Mr. Dickinson
stated it was possible and development would be many years in the future.
Council gave verbal approval to staff to move forward with further work on the Comprehensive
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Plan based on direction given regarding the density ranges and location changes reached at this
✓L meeting. Councilmember Bukkila disagreed with the majority of the Council.
BUDGET PROGRESS REPORTS
Mr. kinson presented the 2019 Budget Progress Report stating the City is on target to meet
2019 bu et expectations. Mr. Dickinson stated revenue projections are over budget around 3%
due to th\un
number of building permits. Mr. Dickinson pointed out snow and ice
removal han likely be over budget, however, will be offset by other areas of the street
budget bebudget. Mr. Dickinson reported it is likely the City will not need to use any
reserve d19 for snow and ice removal.
2019 CITY INVESTMENTS REVIEW
Mr. Dickinson reviewed the 'nvestments report, explaining the Public Works and Community
Center improvements. Mr. Dilkmson stated the City has a small amount invested in more than
ten years because the return on ger term investments is not much different than short term
investments.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Janish presented photos of developments
public a visual of what certain densities woi
photos to the Met Council.
represented densities to give Council and the
)ok like. Staff has submitted some of these
Mr. Janish stated there are homeowners who would likeNq install solar panels on their property.
He explained the City's ordinance that limits ground inst led solar panels to 400 square and
only allowed in R-1 districts. The installation corporation wo d like the City to amend the code
to allow for more square footage of solar panels. Mr. Dickinso tared the square footage needs
to be increased to make it viable for a homeowners and installatio\updat
. Councilmember
Bukkila stated she is open to looking at a proposal from staff to ade. Mayor Trude
stated the ordinance is strict and at the time it was adopted, there wdemand for solar
panels. She stated she is open to reviewing the ordinance as wcus on aesthetics,
screening and glare. Staff will bring forward options for an ordin
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Holthus, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Shari Kunza, Recording Secretary
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or Trude asked if Council had consensus on lots larger than 3 acres having more square
foota of solar. Council consensus was yes as long as aesthetics are looked at.
Councilmem r Bukkila stated she is used to presentations of reasonable projects and feels this
coming to her so done. She is trying to figure out how it is supposed to be done in her City
and she doesn't feel is her role.
Mayor Trude stated Counci Beds more time and asked Mr. Patch if there is a way to do this in
the City. Mr. Patch stated it is p sible, but difficult. Mr. Patch stated when he is replaced the
boundaries need to be defined at tha ime or the code is up to new interpretation.
Councilmember Holthus stated larger lots c have more solar panels as long as there is
screening from neighbors.
Mayor Trude stated it isn't looking positive for the acre
d a half due to the closeness of the
neighbors and recommended Mr. Farnham come back with better sales pitch.
Mr. Dickinson stated anyone who wants to install 400 square feet round mounted can do it
within the current code. Mr. Dickinson proposed looking at the larger uare footage, closer to
1,000 square feet, for 3 acres plus properties. He stated the City has the op ' n to leave it alone
and state to residents the current options or the City could increase the lot size d allow
increased square footage.
Mayor Trude stated she would like to look at the options for over 3 acres in the R-1 distri
Councilmembers concurred. Staff will bring the item back to a future workshop.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE DISCUSSION
Mr. Janish provided an update on the 2040 Comprehensive Plan. The Met Council stated the
plan the City presented is too conceptual and would need to do comprehensive plan amendments
each time. In response Mr. Janish stated the circles will be outlined and defined in text and then
should meet the Met Council's requirements.
Mayor Trude asked if the Met Council was happy with the plan. Mr. Janish stated he expressed
to the Met Council that it was not what the City would have chosen to do and the Council did not
want to develop in the manner the Met Council was dictating.
Mr. Janish will conduct a work session with the Planning and Zoning Commission and get
moving on seeking approvals on the updated plan. The Met Council stated it is an option for the
City to have an open house on the updated plan, but not required. Councilmember Bukkila
stated it should go through the public process. Mayor Trude stated a public hearing will take a
month or two and asked if a presentation at a Council meeting is adequate. Mr. Janish stated
hosting an open house after the other parts of the plan have been updated is what staff would like
to do. He indicated it will take a few months to update the other segments of the plan.
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Mayor Trude stated there can also be a presentation at Council. Mr. Janish stated staff will
present it to the Council and the Planning and Zoning Commission. Councilmember Bukkila
asked if cable could do a news segment with staff as well.
Mayor Trude asked if the population has been adjusted. Mr. Janish stated it has been adjusted to
around 38,000 by 2040 which does exclude the Rural Reserve area. Y
J—'XEMPORARY CUL-DE-SAC DISCUSSION
Mr. rkowitz reviewed the history of development in Andover and temporary cul-de-sacs. He
stated s f members work hard on reviewing the impact on the neighboring parcels surrounding
a new de\theconfinua
nt. The purpose of the temporary cul-de-sac discussion is to provide
developmrtunity to the adjacent parcel to maximize future development. Staff brought
forward te-sac discussion because homes are being built at the end of the temporary cul-
de-sacs wdevelopment to the adjacent property.
Mr. Janisif ther is a property at the end of the cul-de-sac, the property owner needs to
provide a how a r d will go through and provide a set -back. He explained how the
current clding off de elopment in other areas. Mr. Janish pointed out several cul-de-sac
parcels tht the continua ' n of roads for future development.
Mr. Berkowitz described a property i the Stacks Woods development area where a state aid
road route is identified. He stated a buN came in and purchased land to build a house and it
could stop the road from going through to evelop the area to the south.
Staff has identified 86 temporary cul-de-sacs. yor Trude stated the policy the City is using
isn't in code and she supports putting it in the cod d allowing a variance. Mr. Janish stated if
they update the code, the City creates many non-co\abnding
that are recently constructed.
Mr. Berkowitz wants Council to understand the dilen and if there is support in
addressing the issues. He stated there will be backlthe road to build just one
home.
Mayor Trude asked if the City could use the Transportation Plan to idvritify these future
roadways and if someone buys the land, the road is on the map. Mr. Ja h stated local
connections aren't typically on the Transportation Plan, only collector' andiKajor roads. Mayor
Trude stated when they come to the City for a development, the City should i entify that they
want to see a street come through. Mr. Berkowitz stated the issue is that a buyelTurchases land
and only needs to provide a setback for a future road and does not need to build it. e stated the
question is who builds the road and who pays for it.
Councilmember Holthus clarified that staff is looking for a better solution. Mr. Janish stat
staff was seeking Council opinion and staff will go back and look for solutions and bring it
for more discussion.
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