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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/14/20171685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda March 14, 2017 Andover City Hall Council Chambers 7.00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes — February 28, 2017 Work Session and Regular Meeting 3. Public Hearing — Andover Comprehensive Plan Amendment — Rural Reserve Residential Land Use Density Changes 4. Other Business 5. Adjournment 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US TO: Planning and Zoning Commissioners FROM: Stephanie L. Hanson, City Planner SUBJECT: Approval of Minutes — February 28, 2017 Work Session and Regular Meeting DATE: March 14, 2017 REQUEST The Planning and Zoning Commission is requested to approve the work session and regular meeting minutes from February 28, 2017. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING — FEBRUARY28, 2017 The Workshop Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on February 28, 2017, 6:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Commissioners Scott Hudson, Bert Koehler IV, Kyle Nemeth and Jeff Sims Commissioners absent: Steve Peterson and Timothy Cleven Also present: City Planner Stephanie Hanson Associate Planner Dan Krumwiede Others DISCUSS APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRPERSONAND VICE CHAIRPERSON Chairperson Daninger stated that the City Council had previously appointed the Chairperson and Vice Chairperson and now this group nominates and approves the positions. The process begins with selecting the chairperson. It was noted that there was a quorum for the meeting. A nomination was made by Commissioner Koehler for Commissioner Daninger as chairperson. Commissioner Sims nominated Kyle Nemeth. There were no other nominations for the position of chairperson. Upon the vote, there were 4 votes for Commissioner Daninger and 1 vote for Commissioner Nemeth. Commissioner Daninger accepted the nomination. Commissioner Hudson nominated Kyle Nemeth as vice chairperson. There was no need to vote as Kyle Nemeth was the only nomination. Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes —February 28, 2017 Page 2 1 OTHER BUSINESS 2 3 Ms. Hanson stated that there was no other business. 4 5 Commissioner Nemeth asked about the joint session with the City Council. Ms. Hanson 6 stated that it would center around the Atlas 14 new modeling affecting the water 7 properties, especially the rural reserve area. On March 28, the Commission will be 8 sitting with the Council to talk about the new data. There will be some changes as it 9 relates to the Metropolitan Council. It will essentially be an educational session and a 10 kick off to the Comp Plan work. 11 12 The Planning & Zoning Commission will have a major role in the Comp Plan, through 13 City Council work sessions, going through each section of the plan and seeing what 14 needs to be updated. There is a consultant working on the transportation plan, the Parks 15 Commission will work on the parks section. Once updated, the Comp Plan will go 16 through the Planning & Zoning Commission and the water plan has already been updated 17 by a consultant. The timeline will require more meetings in April and in May. The 18 Comp Plan has to be turned in by December 2018. It actually has to be done 6 months 19 prior so that it can go to school district and the watershed district. 20 21 Chairperson Daninger confirmed that the Commission would have a workshop and make 22 a list of what to come back to at the next work session. Once it goes to the actual 23 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting it is important to make sure that the Comp Plan 24 is done and hashed out. Meetings will be starting at 6 pm. City staff will be working 25 with the Metropolitan Council. The big focus will be land use and rural reserve. The 26 Metropolitan Council may also come in and present to the Commission. The process 27 may require agreeing to disagree and then moving forward with the majority. 28 29 ADJOURNMENT 30 31 Motion by Koehler, seconded by Nemeth, to adjourn the meeting at 6:45 p.m. Motion 32 carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent vote (Peterson and Cleven). 33 34 35 Respectfully Submitted, 36 37 Marlene White, Recording Secretary 38 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING — FEBRUARY 28, 2017 The Regular Bi -Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on February 28, 2017, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Commissioners Scott Hudson, Bert Koehler IV, Kyle Nemeth, and Jeff Sims. Commissioners absent: Timothy Cleven and Steve Peterson Also present: City Planner Stephanie Hanson Associate Planner Dan Krumwiede Others APPROVAL OF MINUTES December 13, 2016 Workshop Meeting Commissioner Nemeth recommended corrections as follows: Page 3, line 11, add the word "the" before past Page 3, line 41, indicate Vice Chairperson instead of Commissioner Page 4, line 12, add in "the summer of 2017 Page 4, line 21, strike "small amount of road that is" December 13, 2016 Regular Meeting Page 1, line 31, change Commissioner to Vice Chairman Page 1, line 45, change Commissioner to Vice Chairman Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Koehler, to approve the December 13 Workshop and Regular Meeting minutes as amended. Motion carried on a 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1 -present (Daninger), 2 -absent vote (Peterson and Cleven). PUBLICHEARING: Conditional Use Permit —Liquor Sales —13650 Hanson Blvd. NW, Suite 102 — Joy Kitchen Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes —February 28, 2017 Page 2 1 City Planner Hanson stated the purpose of this item is to hold a public hearing and take 2 input on a CUP for liquor licenses in an I — Industrial District. Once a CUP is approved, 3 the applicant will be required to obtain a liquor license that will be issued by the City 4 Council. The City Council will issue the liquor license. 5 6 Ms. Hanson noted that the resolution should indicate that the CUP is for Suite 102, not 7 103, as stated in the resolution in the packet. She explained that the CUP is connected to 8 the parcel itself as opposed to the business, Joy Kitchen. 9 10 Chairperson Daninger invited questions by Commissioners for staff. 11 12 To explain further, Ms. Hanson stated that the license stays with the property, not with 13 the owner. So, if the owner went to another suite, then they would have to apply for 14 another CUP. 15 16 City Planner Hanson reviewed the proposed CUP request with the Commission. 17 18 Motion by Koehler, seconded by Nemeth, to open the public hearing at 7:41 p.m. 19 Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent vote (Peterson and Cleven). 20 21 There was no public input. Chairperson Dauinger noted that only the applicants were in 22 the audience. 23 24 Motion by Koehler seconded by Nemeth, to close the public hearing at 7:42 p.m. Motion 25 carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent vote (Peterson and Cleven). 26 27 Ms. Hanson indicated two places in the resolution where there is a change from Suite 103 28 to 102 and the spelling of the business should be "Joy" not "Joy's." 29 30 Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Koehler, to recommend to the City Council approval of 31 Res No. approving the CUP for liquor sales, located at 13650 Hanson Blvd NW, 32 Suite.102. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent vote (Peterson and Cleven). 33 34 City Planner Hanson stated that this item would be before the Council at the next 35 Tuesday, March 7, 2017 City Council meeting. 36 37 OTHER BUSINESS 38 39 City Planner Hanson updated the Planning Commission on related items. Saturday, 40 March 11, is the North Suburban Home Show. March 14 there will be a Planning and 41 Zoning Commission meeting. March 28 there will be a joint meeting with the City 42 Council and Planning and Zoning with Comp Plan updates. 43 44 Commissioner Nemeth asked about the interim use permit on the stock pile discussed and 45 voted upon at a previous meeting. Ms. Hanson confirmed that it was finally approved by Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes —February 28, 2017 Page 3 1 the City Council after more work was done on the slopes. After a site visit more of the 2 pile was removed, it was steeper, and the Council and City staff wanted to take care of it. 3 4 Commissioner Sims inquired as to how liquor store and liquor licenses differ. Ms. 5 Hanson stated that off sale liquor licenses are distributed "so many per population" and 6 liquor licenses, for selling beer and wine, are unlimited. The distinction is made in the 7 code. She further clarified that any time you need a liquor license, you need a CUP. 8 9 Commissioner Nemeth welcomed Dan Krumwiede to the City of Andover as the new 10 Associate Planner. ll 12 ADJOURNMENT 13 14 Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Koehler, to adjourn the meeting at 7:16 p.m. Motion 15 carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent vote (Peterson and Cleven). 16 17 18 Respectfully Submitted, 19 20 21 22 Marlene White, Recording Secretary 23 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. 24 A C I T Y • LINDOVEIVW7�'Q 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US TO: Planning and Zoning Commission FROM: Stephanie L. Hanson, City Planner SUBJECT: Public Hearing: Andover Comprehensive Plan Amendment (CPA) — Rural Reserve Land Use Density Changes DATE: March 14, 2017 BACKGROUND At the October 25, 2016 City Council work session, City Council discussed a CPA request by Jake and Jon Packer to allow the subdivision of land within the Rural Reserve District into parcels smaller than what is currently allowed in the Comprehensive Plan. City Council provided direction to staff to proceed with a CPA and ordinance to address future development within the rural reserve area. At the February 28, 2017 City Council work session, staff proposed changes to the City Council. City Council supported the proposed changes. The meeting minutes are attached for your review. DISCUSSION Comprehensive Plan According to the Andover Comprehensive Plan, the Rural Reserve District was designated as an area to accommodate future urban growth beyond the planned Municipal Urban Service Area (MUSA). Lot splits of less than one unit/house per 20 acres and subdivisions of less than 1 unit/house per 40 acres is prohibited to prevent this area from rural residential development that would preclude orderly MUSA expansion. The city has reached an agreement with the Metropolitan Council (Met Council) that areas designated for residential development in the Rural Reserve will be developed at 3 units/houses per net acre once MUSA is available. Flexible Development The Met Council supports densities of 1 unit/house per 10 acres in the rural reserve area. Density beyond this is supported by Met Council; however, it requires provisions such as an ordinance to allow for future wastewater service at a minimum density of 3 units/houses per acre. Staff is proposing to retain a density of 1 unit/house per 10 acres; however with the adoption of an ordinance, the minimum lot size may be reduced to 5 acres as long as the provisions in the ordinance are addressed at the time of the lot split or subdivision. Planning tools that would need to be considered in the ordinance include requirements of build -out plans (ghost platting), the location of building pads that allow for future subdivision of the land into urban lots, and the use of deed restrictions, easements, and/or covenants to protect the remaining land for future development. The intent of the ordinance is to allow subdivision of land while preserving the land for future urban development. The following proposed language will be added to the Comprehensive Plan: RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DISTRICTS Rural Reserve Residential (RRRI) District was designated as an area of approximately one thousand acres in size to accommodate future urban growth beyond the previously planned Municipal Urban Service Area. This area is restricted from urban development until a master plan has been approved and municipal sewer and water can be constructed to serve the area. The city prohibits lot splits and subdivisions of less than one parcel per twefAy ten acres to prevent this area from rural residential development that would preclude orderly MUSA expansion. There are opportunities to allow for rural residential lot splits and development, but requires the majority of the land be preserved for future urban development. A new zoning district that reflects the recommended base and density options, lot sizes and typical uses is needed to implement this plan category. In the future, a new trunk sewer line will connect to the Coon Rapids Interceptor, a regional trunk sewer line located near the intersection of Crooked and Bunker Lake Boulevards. The city has reached agreement with the Metropolitan Council that areas designated for residential development in the Rural Reserve will be developed at three units per net acre once MUSA becomes available (subtracting parks, wetlands, floodplain, water bodies, arterial roads, and other areas restricted from development) Minimum Lot Size 5 acres with compliance of ordinance provisions Densi 1 unit per 10 acres City Utilities None Corresponding Zoning Districts RRR Rural Reserve Residential Type of Development Single Family Detached Housing Met Council City staff and the Met Council have been collaborating throughout the process to ensure compliancy with the Council policies. Met Council staff reviewed the proposed CPA and support the proposed language. It is common to submit the CPA to Met Council prior to the completion of the ordinance changes. However, once Met Council approves the CPA, it will not go into effect until the City Council adopts the ordinance that coincides with the CPA. Met Council does not need to review or approve the ordinance; .however City Staff must provide them with a _ copy once it is approved by City Council. According to the Metropolitan Council, there are 28 communities in the metropolitan area that are designated for future wastewater service, including Andover; 22 of which have some type of ordinances in place that allows higher density development while preserving open space for future expansion of municipal services. The variations in these ordinances differ among communities to reflect their original intent for adopting the ordinance. Some communities wish to preserve expanses of undeveloped land, while others have landscapes that are restricted by limiting features, and still others have planned to accommodate future growth. The Andover CPA proposal is similar to what the other communities have adopted. Proposed Schedule Once the CPA is submitted to the Met Council, staff will begin to work on the zoning ordinance that coincides with the CPA. The following is the tentative schedule for the CPA and the zoning changes: March 21, 2017 City Council review of the CPA March 22, 2017 If CPA is approved by City Council, it will be submitted to the Met Council for the formal review and approval process March 28, 2017 City Council will review the proposed zoning changes at the work session April 11, 2017 Public hearing at PZ for the proposed zoning changes April 2017 Met Council will formally act on the CPA May 2, 2017 City Council will act on the proposed zoning changes ACTION REQUIRED Staff recommends the Planning and Zoning Commission hold a public hearing, consider the proposed CPA's and to make a recommendation of approval to the City Council. If approved by the City Council, this amendment will be forwarded to the Metropolitan Council for their approval. Res ectfu S miffed, Stephanie L. Hanson City Planner Attachments Resolution Attachment A: Comprehensive Plan Text Changes Attachment B: Future Land Use Map Figure 2.4 February 28, 2017 Draft City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes Cc: Jake and Jon Packer, 3074 161'` Avenue NW, Andover, MN 55304 CITY OF ANDOVER COUNTY OF ANOKA STATE OF MINNESOTA RES. NO. R A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN OF THE CITY OF ANDOVER TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING: WITHIN THE RURAL RESERVE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE, TO ALLOW ONE (1) UNIT PER TEN (10) ACRES WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW ONE (1) UNIT PER FIVE (5) ACRES WITH THE COMPLIANCE OF ORDINANCE PROVISIONS AS PROPOSED WITHIN ATTACHMENT A; AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS FOR THE RURAL RESERVE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE AS SHOWN ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP FIGURE 2.4 AS ATTACHMENT B WHEREAS, a public hearing was held pursuant to state statutes, and; WHEREAS, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council approval of the amendment as requested, and; WHEREAS, the City Council finds the proposed use will not be detrimental to the health, safety, morals and general welfare of the occupants of the surrounding land. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the City Council of the City of Andover has received the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Commission and adopts the following amendment to the Comprehensive Plan, subject to review and approval by the Metropolitan Council: 1. Within the Rural Reserve Residential Land Use, to allow one (1) unit per ten (10) acres with the opportunity to allow one (1) unit per five (5) acres with compliance of ordinance provisions. Adopted by the City Council of the City of Andover on this 21 st day of March, 2017. CITY OF ANDOVER ATTEST: Michelle Hartner, Deputy City Clerk Julie Trude, Mayor ATTACHMENT A 1 OWE' 2008 Comprehensive Plan Update City of Andover Land Use Districts Land use districts are established to ensure compatible development and to protect natural resources and amenities. The district definitions provided below are intended to state their purpose, provide location criteria and describe the relationship of each district with other land uses. RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DISTRICTS Rural Reserve Residential (RRR) District was designated as an area of approximately one thousand acres in size to accommodate future urban growth beyond the previously planned Municipal Urban Service Area. This area is restricted from urban development until a master plan has been approved and municipal sewer and water can be constructed to serve the area. The city prohibits lot splits and subdivisions of less than one parcel per twenty ten acres to prevent this area from rural residential development that would preclude orderly MUSA expansion. There are opportunities to allow for rural residential lot splits and development, but requires the majority of the land be preserved for future urban development. A new zoning district that reflects the recommended base and density options, lot sizes and typical uses is needed to implement this plan categorV. In the future, a new trunk sewer line will connect to the Coon Rapids Interceptor, a regional trunk sewer line located near the intersection of Crooked and Bunker Lake Boulevards. The city has reached agreement with the Metropolitan Council that areas designated for residential development in the Rural Reserve will be developed at three units per net acre once MUSA becomes available (subtracting parks, wetlands, floodplain, water bodies, arterial roads, and other areas restricted from development). Minimum Lot Size 5 acres with compliance of ordinance provisions Densi 1 unit per 10 acres City Utilities None Corresponding Zoning Districts RRR Rural Reserve Residential Type of Development Single Family Detached Housing Rural Residential (RR) district provides an area for low intensity residential development in areas outside of the Municipal Urban Service Area (MUSA) that will not be served by municipal sewer and water. The minimum lot size is 2.5 acres to provide sufficient space for on site sewer and water facilities and to prevent dense development that would create an adverse impact on municipal and regional infrastructure. However, smaller acreage lots exist in areas subdivided prior to 1978 and in the two previously approved rural planned unit developments: Nightingale Preserve and Timber River 19 c r r o c NDOAT 2008 Comprehensive Plan Update - - -• - - 07 _ _ - •• - --•- - - •� _ _ - • - - - „_ - -. ' -- - unnmr Wr SEWER STAGING PLAN Undeveloped land within the Municipal Urban Service Area is divided into five yeargrowth stages based primarily on the proximity of municipal sewer and water. Thegrowth stages are intended to provide a reasonable estimate of urban growth to the year 2030. Property owners may choose not to develop even if their property is shownwithin the current growth stage. Property owners seeking to develop sooner than shown on the Staging Plan may petition the city to change the growth stage designation. These changes are at the discretion of the City Council. The Staging Plan Map is represented on Figure 2.5. Figure 2.6 summarizes the map by providing theamount of acreage within each land use district in each of the five year stages. The Metropolitan Council also requests information that summarizes the density of future development in each residential land use district. This information is provided in Figure2.7. URBAN 25 u 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING — FEBRUARY28, 2017 MINUTES The Workshop Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Julie Trude, February 28, 2017, 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmembers present: Mike Knight, Sheri Bukkila, Valerie Holthus and James Goodrich Councilmember absent: None Also present: City Administrator Jim Dickinson Public Works Director/City Engineer, David Berkowitz City Planner, Stephanie Hanson Associate Planner, Dan Krumwiede Streets Maintenance Supervisor, Mark Becker Parks Maintenance Supervisor; Jason Grode Others Mr. Dickinson introduced to the Council the new Associate Planner, Dan Krumwiede. Ms. Hanson explained the Packer Family has requested a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to split their land. The Planning and Zoning Commission really liked this plan and would like it to move forward. She noted she has been working very closing with the Met Council on this item and they have already reviewed it and are on board with the plan. She stated the Met Council like the way it is proposed because it is very simple. Ms. Hanson stated what is being proposed is to add to the current Comprehensive Plan an amendment allowing for density of one unit per ten acres in Rural Reserve Residential areas. The Met Council already allows' for this in their policies, allowing people to further subdivide their land as long as there is a zoning ordinance with provisions in it providing for future urban development. She stated they would need to approve the Comprehensive Plan amendment and then create a zoning district which will be Rural Reserve Residential (RRR) and have the regulations in there with mechanisms providing for fixture urban development. She stated she is proposing a five acre lot minimum to keep very minimal impact in that area. Some of the things they will need to look at in the zoning code is requiring applicants to put the building pad in an area that it can be further subdivided in the future, this will require some type of ghost plating so they have a general idea on how the lot can be laid out and would keep in compliance of ordinance provisions. Mr. Dickinson reviewed with the Council how the new Rural Reserve Residential District would Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes —February 28, 2017 Page 2 1 look. 2 3 Councilmember Bukkila stated her only concern would be with people coming forward in the 4 future and the Council would not have enough guidance to make an informative decision. Mayor 5 Trude wondered if the Council would want more rules regarding this. 6 7 Ms. Hanson drew an example on the white board and stated their provision would allow 8 someone to subdivide to five acres per lot, but would still need to keep the density to four units 9 for forty acres of land. This will still be considered Rural Reserve and will not lose that 10 designation. Mr. Dickinson stated the applicant will still need to ghost plat the parcel to show 11 what it could look like in the future if developed. 12 13 Mayor Trude stated the Council liked that the residents can build on their inheritance but 14 wondered if they would want to open this up for selling off the land and chipping the rural 15 reserve down. Mr. Dickinson stated the home would still need to be on road frontage and would 16 still have to maintain the four houses per forty -acre rule. 17 18 Mayor Trude wondered if a street came through like Veterans Memorial would they be able to 19 split off more land. Mr. Dickinson stated that would be up to the Council to decide and he did 20 not think this will be a big deal. He thought it would be unfeasible for that type of situation to 21 happen. 22 23 Mayor Trude wondered if this could be done on the fringes of the Rural Reserve because she did 24 not want this to include the entire Rural Reserve area. Ms. Hanson stated this would need to be 25 done throughout the entire Rural Reserve area and must be part of the Zoning Code. Mr. 26 Dickinson stated the Comprehensive Plan has to be put in place first and then they will have to 27 go and add language to the Zoning Code. 28 29 Councilmember Bukkila asked if there will be language in this stating that there needed to be 30 frontage road in order to split and develop. Ms. Hanson stated they could. Mr. Berkowitz 31 thought that was already in the City Code. 32 33 Councilmember Holthus asked if on a forty -acre parcel would there be 350 feet of frontage. Mr. 34 Berkowitz indicated there would be. 35 36 Councilmember Holthus asked what the MUSA potential is to expand into the Rural Reserve. 37 Mr. Berkowitz stated they are looking at the new Atlas 14 restrictions and are working with the 38 Coon Creek Watershed District on the potential of what impacts the Atlas 14 will have on the 39 Rural Reserve. He stated the current model shows a huge area within inundated with water. 40 Some culverts throughout the farm ditches could be lowered with the potential of alleviating 41 some of that impact. He stated the biggest challenge will be what will Atlas 14 impacts have on 42 that area and how will it develop. 43 44 Councilmember Knight asked what the Met Council's goal was in setting the rules in the area. 45 Mr. Dickinson stated right now the City rules are stricter than the Met Council rules and the City Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes —February 28, 2017 Page 3 1 is trying to be compatible with Met Council rules to allow one in ten in the Rural Reserve. 2 3 Councilmember Goodrich stated he wanted to let people do as much as they can without getting 4 jammed up. He wondered if there were any thoughts on one per eight or having five acres 5 across. Ms. Hanson stated the one unit per ten acres is Met Council policy. 6 7 Mayor Trude wondered if the City can push the Met Council on this. Ms. Hanson stated they 8 would likely not be successful pushing the Met Council on their policy as it is consistently 9 applied. 10 11 Ms. Hanson stated the next step will be a public hearing in March and then off to Met Council if 12 the Council approves moving this forward. The City Council unanimously agreed to have staff 13 move this item forward. 14 15 Ms. Hanson and Mr. Krumwiede left the meeting. 16 17 COMMUNITY SUR VEY DISCUSSIONS 18 19 Mr. Dickinson explained during the City of Andover 2017 Budget and 2017-2021 CIP 20 development discussions, there was a desire to pursue a community survey to determine resident 21 support for current city services, programs and potential capital projects. At the January 22 workshop, the City Council instructed Administration to proceed forward with a 2017 23 community survey. 24 25 Mr. Dickinson reviewed changes he has made to the survey questions for 2017. He noted 26 Councilmember Holthus asked to remove "issues facing" from the beginning paragraph in the 27 survey. 28 29 Councilmember Holthus indicated she would like to change question 4 from "issue" to 30 something else, like "challenge". The Council thought "challenge" was a better word than 31 "issue". 32 33 Mayor Trude thought they could replace iteml3, "One level housing for seniors maintained by 34 an association" with the new item below 7 "Association Maintained Housing". Councilmember 35 Bukkila wondered if the question is too long and as she looks at the question she wonders what 36 the purpose of the question is. Mr. Dickinson stated the question asks if the City has too much, 37 too little or enough of a particular type of housing. Councilmember Bukkila thought the question 38 ends up being too vague and thought this should be two different questions. 39 40 Councilmember Bukkila stated she did not understand what "move up" housing meant. Mr. 41 Dickinson stated this would be mid-range housing. 42 43 The Council thought the survey wording for item 9 should be changed from "move up" housing 44 to "mid-range housing". Mr. Dickinson stated they have "Starter homes for young families", 45 maybe they could change the item to "Move up housing for growing families". Mayor Trude