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HomeMy WebLinkAboutWK - October 24, 201711 C I T Y O F R' © NDOVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W.. ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Work Session Meeting Agenda October 24, 2017 6:00 PM Andover City Hall City Council Chambers 6:00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Discussion: Lot Split - 643 Constance Blvd. — Todd and Cindy Christensen 3. Discussion: Conditional Use Permit — 3075 162"d Lane NW— Joseph Otto 4. Discussion: Preliminary Plat — White Pine Wilderness 3`d Addition — Tollberg Homes © 5. Other Business 6. Adjournment X PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING — OCTOBER 24, 2017 The Workshop Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairman Daninger on October 24, 2017, 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Commissioners Bert Koehler IV, Kyle Nemeth, Nick Loehlein, and Jeff Sims Commissioners absent: Timothy Cleven and Scott Hudson Also present: Community Development Director Joe Janish QCity Planner Stephanie Hanson Others Ms. Hanson invited Commissioners to ask questions about the agenda items. Chairperson Daninger described the role and procedures for the Planning & Zoning Commission meetings for the benefit of new Commissioner Nick Loehlein. LOT SPLIT — 643 CONSTANCE BLVD. — TODD AND CINDY CHRISTENSEN Ms. Hanson confirmed that the variances were already approved for this property, by the City Council. Commissioner Loehlein asked if there were any modifications. Ms. Hanson confirmed that there were none and indicated that splitting the lot this way saved the applicant a few thousand dollars. Commissioner Nemeth asked for confirmation that the barn was required to be removed. Ms. Hanson confirmed that the barn had already been removed. Commissioner Sims asked if the resident would need to pay a park dedication fee, even if © it was a lot split. Ms. Hanson indicated that was the case. Mr. Janish explained that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes — October 24, 2017 Page 2 © way cities determine these calculations are often based on population. The theory is that each household places a demand on the parks. A developer pays the fee if it is a development. Ms. Hanson confirmed that this is common in Metro cities. Sometimes a road improvement fee is also charged. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT — 3075162ND LANE NW — JOSEPH OTTO Ms. Hanson stated that in this situation, the purchase agreement was cancelled for the property because the improvements would be in excess of what the property/facility would be worth. This industrial area can be a difficult area of the City to develop. PRELIMINAR Y PLA T — WHITE PINE WILDERNESS 3RD ADDITION — TOLLBERG HOMES Chairperson Daninger described the process for a public hearing and the definition of a plat for Commissioner Loehlein's benefit. Ms. Hanson said that this request was pretty routine, and that another part of the plat will come back to the Commission at a later date. Three lots will be developed now so that the developer can get footings in the ground and build over the winter and have a home in the Parade of Homes in the spring of 2018. The wetlands are now being looked at by another government agency and once that process is completed, which will take about 2 months, then the rest of the plat will come back to be reviewed by the Commission. Mr. Janish addressed outlots. The City owns outlots once the developer is not paying taxes on it and then who owns the outlet comes into question. Generally, the City's view is to take the value of the outlot and combine it with other lots and increase their value. Long-term ownership is the main issue. Outlots are not allowed in the City of Andover if it is a wetland. Chairperson Daninger reiterated, if it's not buildable, it really is the upkeep of the outlot that is the issue. Commissioner Nemeth noted that the Preserve at Oakview had an outlot. Ms. Hanson stated the developer, in that case, decided to tie it into his own lot, since it was not allowable. Commissioner Loehlein noted that small plats, instead of big plats, are hard to look at as to how it affects the larger area around it. Ms. Hanson noted that the same developer owns the land/lots that will be around this small plat. Chairperson Daninger indicated that there is a Master Plan for sewer and roads. Sometimes there is a concern about a ghost plat or about water and drainage. A plat cannot affect water and drainage of the property of others. Ms. Hanson confirmed that the plat area is surrounded by Open Space that is preserved. Commissioner Loehlein asked if there was a maximum number of homes that have to be built to consider needing another way out of a development. Commissioner Koehler responded that there are several factors including: sewer, electrical, water, snowplowing, Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes —October 24, 2017 Page 3 © and fire. Commissioner Nemeth stated that the Commission relies on staff for that type of input, e.g. the fire chief reviews the plat. Chairperson Daninger commented that the Commission is guided by the rules, but needs to rely on the staff for details and advice. Staff reviews the requests ahead of time, so by the time it gets to the Commission there has been good guidance given to the applicant. Ms. Hanson confirmed, that by state statute, the Commission needs to give the reasons to deny the request. Issues identified by the Review Committee can be addressed ahead of the meeting of the Commission. Needed permits are also addressed by staff. OTHER BUSINESS Ms. Hanson gave a Comp Plan update. Putting in a new trunkline will likely be a discussion item at a joint work session coming up. Staff is also looking at flood range information now. It looks like 400 acres may be developable on the north end of the Rural Reserve area. Consideration will also need to include the Metropolitan Council. Chairperson Daninger noted that not much change would be made to the Comp Plan, but Parks will have some revisions. Sewer will be the big discussion item in the Rural Reserve. The Comp Plan update will have new traffic counts. Ms. Hanson also confirmed that water usage is down. There is anticipated construction planned for Hanson Boulevard in 2019. Bunker Lake Boulevard is now complete. Davinci Academy is building at the intersection of Bunker Lake Boulevard and Jefferson Street. Ms. Hanson noted that Lennar is changing the sketch plan and the development could be up to 80 lots. Mark Smith, who is working on Catcher's Creek East, got a mining permit. He is hoping to submit the preliminary plat to the City by the end of the year. Commissioner Koehler commented on Clocktower Commons not having a clocktower. Chairperson Daninger stated agreement. Commissioner Nemeth commented that sometimes Commissioners get to see the comments made in advance of the submission of the final plat. Chairperson Daninger agreed that sometimes it is nice to see the changes. Ms. Hanson anticipates that the Comp Plan will be finished by year end. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Sims, seconded by Koehler, to adjourn the meeting at 6:52 p.m. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent vote (Cleven and Hudson). Respectfully Submitted, Marlene White, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.