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HomeMy WebLinkAboutWK - October 13, 20159 I1 U 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755 -5100 FAX (763) 755 -8923 • WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Agenda October 13, 2015 Andover City Hall Conference Rooms A & B 6:00 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Discuss Accessory Dwelling Units 3. Discuss PUD Requirements Continued 4. Other Business 5. Adjournment It O PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORKSHOP MEETING OCTOBER 13, 2015 The Workshop Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on October 13, 2015, 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Lynae Gudmundson, Bert Koehler, and Kyle Nemeth. Commissioners absent: Commissioner Tim Cleven, Steve Peterson and Jeff Sims. Also present: Community Development Director Dave Carlberg City Planner Stephanie Hanson • Others DISCUSS ACCESSORYDWELLING UNITS Ms. Hanson stated at the September 15, 2015 City Council work session, Council discussed an article in the Star Tribune "Granny Flats" may find a new home in Inver Grove Heights. The City Council indicated they would like further review and discussion on these types of accessory dwellings from the Planning Commission and brought back to the City Council for further review. Mr. Carlberg reviewed with the Commission the discussion that happened at the September 15, 2015 City Council workshop meeting. Ms. Hanson stated in many of the cities they reviewed the ordinances were very similar. She stated Farmington allows them through CUP's but have never approved a CUP for one. Commissioner Koehler asked if Farrington has denied a CUP for one. Ms. Hanson indicated they have. Commissioner Koehler asked how many cars are allowed in driveways today in Andover. Ms. Hanson stated they do not have any requirement other than they need to park on hard surface. Commissioner Koehler stated he saw a handout that goes out to new residents that states "two cars per driveway ". Commissioner Nemeth stated he has seen that too. for Chairperson Daninger thought that was a covenant the neighborhood association. Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes — October 13, 2015 Page 2 • Commissioner Koehler indicated this is on the City's website but he could not find it anywhere in the City Code. Mr. Carlberg indicated he would check into this. Mr. Carlberg stated the Commission should discuss where they would want to see these types of structures allowed in the City. Council discussed possibly allowing them in the rural areas where there is more room. Commissioner Nemeth asked if the structures would possibly overtax the city water and sewer systems. Commissioner Koehler stated he had the same concern and that other utilities such as gas and electric could be affected as well. He thought there needs to be a check on all of these things by all of the proper authorities. Mr. Carlberg stated if these would be allowed only in the rural areas they would not burden the city systems because they would be on private septic systems and wells. Chairperson Daninger asked how they would deal with these in an R -4 District. He thought there would be setback issues and other issues associated with it. Mr. Carlberg stated they could have a dwelling above the garage or in the basement of a home. Commissioner Gudmundson stated they would want to do CUP's on these because if they did not set any boundaries on what they could potentially build then their rural area is going to end up looking like Isanti County. She thought they would want to look at what • they are proposing and building and thought they would like a permit placed on this. Mr. Carlberg stated they could put conditions on them. Commissioner Nemeth stated he would like to then have a sunset clause placed on these in case the property gets sold. Mr. Carlberg did not think that would work because of the cost associated with the building on the structures. Commissioner Koehler stated they would need to tie up the language enough that the new homeowner would be painted into certain conditions where they could use that dwelling so it would not have to be removed. He stated another concern he had was for other utilities such as electrical and natural gas. Chairperson Daninger did not think that would be enough of an issue because that is coming into developments where sewer is going as well. Commissioner Nemeth stated they just had Centerpoint Energy come in asking for more capacity for tanks. Commissioner Gudmundson thought a CUP would be needed in order to address all of the possible concerns and issues. Commissioner Koehler stated a CUP needs to have some guidance. Mr. Carlberg reviewed some of the other cities requirements where the structures are allowed with the Commission. Commissioner Koehler thought there needed to be some regulation around what residential zoning they will allow these on. 0 Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes — October 13, 2015 Page 3 • The Commission discussed where in the City the structures should be allowed and requirements needed. The Commission thought the best procedure for allowing these types of structures in the City would be with a CUP. Staff indicated they would bring this information forward to the City Council for further discussion. DISCUSS PUD REQUIREMENTS, CONTINUED Ms. Hanson stated at the September 9, 2015 work session, the Planning and Zoning Commission discussed the intent of PUD's. During the discussion, it was suggested that staff provide a list for the Commission to reference when reviewing PUD's. Commissioner Koehler stated the idea of a list was not to come up with an exclusive all encompassing list but just something to get them thinking in the right direction. He thought they should have a checklist of things the City wants to avoid when looking at a PUD. • Commissioner Nemeth stated he would like to add three items to the list. First one being "No item that requires City or Association maintenance', such as roundabouts with center island plantings. The second one is related to parks and do they want to ask for a certain size of a park in a PUD. Mr. Carlberg stated the Park Commission has a City wide plan where parks are to be located. They would not take a park with a PUD but open space could be preserved by allowing clustering within the development. There was discussion about Homeowner Associations and PUD's. Mr. Carberg stated in order to allow a homeowner association in a PUD the PUD needs to be larger with enough units to support the HOA. He cited examples of failures such as Country Oaks West. Commissioner Nemeth stated he really liked having a developer's narrative about compliance with the City Code, 13 -3 -11 and thought for the Commission this should be front and foremost. Addressing how are they complying and meeting City requirements. He thought that needs to come from the developer in marketing their development to the Commission. Chairperson Daninger stated the lists are nice and he likes the points discussed but no two PUD's are alike. He thought as they see more PUD's they will get better and people get more experienced. He thought the list will help but as they see more of these come • forward they will get more experienced and better. Commissioner Nemeth agreed with Commissioner Koehler that if they have a list, they will remember to ask questions. Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Workshop Meeting Minutes — October 13, 2015 Page 4 Commissioner Nemeth stated he noticed Anoka is now requiring traffic studies with their new developments as part of their approval process and he thought that might be helpful for new developments with not enough arterial roads to possibly meet the demands. He thought this would give them something else to think about. Mr. Carlberg stated traffic studies are expensive and they have been done but typically only with very large residential developments in the City that require Environmental Assessment Worksheets and commercial developments such as Wal-Mart in the City. OTHER BUSINESS Community Development Director Carlberg updated the Planning Commission on related items. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Gudmundson, seconded by Nemeth, to adjourn the meeting at 6:56 p.m. Motion carried on 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 3- absent (Cleven, Peterson, Sims) vote. 0 Respectfully Submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary Timesaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. •