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Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting Agenda
March 10, 2015
Andover City Hall
Council Chambers
7.00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes — February 10, 2015 Regular Meeting
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Comprehensive Plan Amendment - Tract A, RLS No.
262 — 3200 South Coon Creek Drive — Incorporate Property into MUSA and
Change Land Use Designation from OS, Open Space to URL Urban Residential
Low Density - City of Andover
0 4. Other Business
a. Discuss Participation in Andover Family Fun Fest City Booth
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5. Adjournment
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING — MARCH 10, 2015
The Regular Bi- Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Acting Chairperson Nemeth on March 10, 2015, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Acting Chairperson Kyle Nemeth, Commissioners Jeff
Sims, Lynae Gudmundson, and Bert Koehler IV.
Commissioners absent: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Timothy Cleven
and Steve Peterson.
Also present: Community Development Director Dave Carlberg
Others
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
February 10, 2015
Acting Chairperson Nemeth indicated in the February 10, 2015 Workshop minutes
Commissioner Sims named was misspelled. He noted it was also misspelled using
Simms instead of Sims in multiple places in the February 10, 2015 minutes.
Acting Chairperson Nemeth indicated in the approval of the 2015 meeting schedule the
motion is showing the year as 215 and should be 2015. He also noted in regards to the
adjournment of the meeting, it is showing 7:00 p.m. and should be reflected as 6:55 p.m.
because he believed they adjourned slightly before 7:00 p.m.
Acting Chairperson Nemeth stated on the regular minutes under Approval of Minutes;
page one, first paragraph, second sentence the word "pair" should be "peer ". On page
three, fifth paragraph, third sentence should read "An obstacle, need to be pruned more
and encroach onto the roadway."
Motion by Gudmundson, seconded by Koehler, to approve the minutes as amended.
Motion carried on a 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 3- absent ( Daninger, Cleven, Peterson) vote.
Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes —March 10, 2015
Page 2
PUBLIC HEARING: Comprehensive Plan Amendment —Tract A, RLS No. 262 —
3200 South Coon Creek Drive — Incorporate Property into MUSA and Change Land
Use Designation from OS, Open Space to URL Urban Residential Low Density
Community Development Director Carlberg noted the purpose of this item is to hold a
public hearing and take input on a Comprehensive Plan Amendment — Tract A, RLS No
262 — 3200 South Coon Creek Drive, to incorporate property into MUSA and change
land use designation from OS, Open Space to URL Urban Residential Low Density.
Community Development Director Carlberg reviewed the proposed Comprehensive Plan
Amendment with the Commission.
Commissioner Koehler asked what the premise of designating a land as open space and
what was the guideline for it. He wondered whether there was some sort of stipulation on
open space land that it should never be changed to anything else. Mr. Carlberg stated the
open space land use designation was put on any properties that were considered to never
be developed. He noted there has been a resident who expressed concern with the
proposed open space land use change and how the City can change the designation. He
indicated there is a difference between the land use designation and properties that have
been purchased with open space monies from the 2006 bond referendum. In this case,
the property was not purchased with those funds and the designation can be changed
because it is land use designation.
Commissioner Gudmundson asked why they would put all of the golf course land into the
MUSA sometime in the future. Mr. Carlberg stated if it does not count against their
density requirements they have with the Met Council it is probably better to be put into
the urban service area so the City does not have islands within the MUSA boundary.
This would be a map clean up item.
Commissioner Gudmundson asked if it was an error that this was labeled as open space
and zoned R -4. Mr. Carlberg stated this area has been zoned R -4 since the late 1980's
when the Woodland Creek Golf Course PUD was developed which included the course
and the adjacent residential housing units. The Open Space land use designation was
added in 2008.
Commissioner Sims requested that an explanation for the difference between an open
space designation and a zoning designation. He questioned whether a piece of land can
have two different labels. Mr. Carlberg stated they could. He discussed the land use
designation map and gave the definition of both types of land labels.
Commissioner Sims indicated he was confused and wondered why a piece of land can
have an open space designation and also be labeled R -4 Zoning. Mr. Carlberg stated
there is no open space zoning designation but they have a land use designation that
guides it.
Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes —March 10, 2015
Page 3
Acting Chairperson Nemeth asked how many additional lots will be added. Mr. Carlberg
stated there will be six.
Commissioner Koehler stated there will also be a limited number of parking spaces in the
development to provide access for people to access this open space area which was the
former golf club. Mr. Carlberg indicated that was correct and indicated there would be
four parking spaces and trail access to the open space.
Commissioner Gudmundson asked if the resident who wrote the email lived in the
vicinity. Mr. Carlberg stated she did not.
Commissioner Sims asked if the intent of this would be open space for the public to use
but is not covered the bond issue. Mr. Carlberg indicated that was correct.
Commissioner Sims inquired whether in the future the land use could be changed. Mr.
Carlberg stated it would not be because the City is working collaboratively with the
Board of Water and Soil Resources on establishing a conservation easement over the
property for the development of a wetland banking program which will restore the
wetland areas that were filled when the golf course was developed.
Motion by Koehler, seconded by Gudmundson, to open the public hearing at 7:22 p.m.
Motion carried on a 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 3- absent (Daninger, Cleven, Peterson) vote.
Mr. Ron Dombeck, 3272 143d Avenue NW, stated he wondered how much of a mess is
the construction going to create for the residents because they all have to use the same
drive off of South Coon Creek. He thought there will be mud brought in onto the roads
which will make a mess for the people who live in the area. He wondered if there was
some stipulation that the contractors are required to clean up after themselves. Mr.
Carlberg stated the City does require the streets are cleaned and swept. The construction
company will do a rip rap rock type entrance to the site and grading should occur on the
property itself and they will not be bringing fill and dirt onto the site. He stated there will
be heavy equipment and through the City's approval process they make sure the streets
are clean and that the developer implements erosion control measures on the site.
Commissioner Koehler stated in that area they can have a lot of dust blowing around so
the contractor will water down the area at the end of the day to help alleviate that issue.
Mr. Dombeck asked how large the lots will be. Mr. Carlberg stated there will be six
homes with at least a half -acre in size.
Commissioner Koehler stated one of the concerns the City had while reviewing the site
plan was the value of the neighborhood and plans were reviewed and the homes look
really nice and would benefit residents of the neighborhood.
Acting Chairperson Nemeth submitted into the record an email received from Donna
Aasness.
Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes —March 10, 2015
Page 4
Motion by Koehler, seconded by Gudmundson, to close the public hearing at 7:29 p.m.
Motion carried on a 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 3- absent (Daninger, Cleven, Peterson) vote.
Motion by Koehler, seconded by Gudmundson, to recommend to the City Council
approval of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment — Tract A, RLS No. 262 — 3200 South
Coon Creek Drive — Incorporate Property into MUSA and Change Land Use Designation
from OS, Open Space to URL Urban Residential Low Density. Motion carried on a 4-
ayes, 0 -nays, 3- absent (Daninger, Cleven, Peterson) vote.
Community Development Director Carlberg stated that this item would be before the City
Council at the March 17, 2015 meeting.
OTHER B USINESS.
a. Discuss Participation in Andover Family Fun Fest City Booth
Community Development Director Carlberg stated the City gets a booth every year and
traditionally the City Council attends and spends time in the booth. In recent years, the
Open Space Commission and Park and Recreation Commission have started participating
in the booth and giving out information. He thought this was a good resource booth for
the different Commissions to spend time in and he wondered if the Planning and Zoning
Commission would like to spend some time in the booth volunteering. He stated if
interested the Commissioners could email him.
Community Development Director Carlberg updated the Planning and Zoning
Commission on related items.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Koehler, seconded by Gudmundson, to adjourn the meeting at 7:36 p.m.
Motion carried on a 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 3- absent (Daninger, Cleven, Peterson) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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