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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 11, 2014ANLb Y O F © OWE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755 -5100 FAX (763) 755 -8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda August 11, 2014 Andover City Hall Council Chambers 7.00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes — July 8, 2014 Regular Meeting Public Hearing: Consider the Preliminary Plat of the Carson Ridge Planned Unit Development —18 lot single family urban residential development located at 14123 Prairie Road NW — TH Construction. 4. Other Business © 5. Adjournment x ANDOVEA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING — AUGUST 11, 2014 The Regular Bi- Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Holthus on August 11, 2014, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Holthus, Commissioners Timothy Cleven, Dean Daninger, Lynae Gudmundson, Bert Koehler IV, Kyle Nemeth and Steve Peterson. Commissioners absent: None. Also present: Community Development Director Dave Carlberg City Planner Stephanie Hanson Others 0 APPROVAL OFMINUTES. July 8, 2014 Commissioner Nemeth indicated he had a few changes. He noted a change on page 2, third paragraph, second sentence from the bottom, "approval or denial of the property." Page 4, third paragraph down, "Mr. Smolek clarified asked if the water table would be lowered ", the Community Development Director actually did the clarification. The fourth paragraph down, third sentence, "He explained the value of the home is not based on the size of the lot". Page 6, last paragraph, second sentence from the end "approved conditional use permit and to revise the approved planning unit development on lots three through five ". Page nine, fifth paragraph down with the motion, third sentence from the end should read "amend the existing approved Conditional Use Permit, and to revise the approved Plan Unit Development." Chairperson Holthus stated on page one, first paragraph under public hearing it states Tom Emmerich Construction and should be Tony Emmerich Construction. Page two, it shows Tommy Emmerich Construction and needs to change to Tony. Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Peterson, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2- present ( Daninger and Gudmundson), 0- absent vote. U Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes —August 11, 2014 Page 2 © PUBLIC HEARING: Consider the Preliminary Plat of the Carson Ridge Planned Unit Development — 18 Lot Single Family Urban Residential Development Located at 14123 Prairie Road NW— TH Construction. City Planner Hanson noted the purpose of this item is to hold a public hearing and take input on the Preliminary Plat of the Carson Ridge Planned Unit Development. City Planner Hanson reviewed the proposed Preliminary Plat with the Commission. Commissioner Nemeth asked in regards to the cul -de -sac length, 500 hundred feet is the maximum that is typical or designed. Mr. Carlberg stated that is a maximum requirement of the City's subdivision code, however there are several in the City that are longer where variances have been granted. Commissioner Nemeth asked if the Public Works Department reviewed this and were there any comments regarding the 598 foot length. Ms. Hanson stated they did not have any comments regarding the length of the cul -de -sac. Commissioner Gudmundson asked if there have been any changes made to the plans since last reviewed by them. Ms. Hanson stated there has not, the only thing that changed was it has now come back as a PUD. Commissioner Koehler stated when this was discussed in 2013, there was some question as to whether or not the developer had talked to adjacent property owners to see if there was property available for sale and he wondered if there was any information on this. Ms. Hanson indicated the developer could answer this question. Commissioner Peterson stated on Lot 6 it looks like there is a tree line which ends at Lot 7 and he wondered why this would stop and asked if they are planting additional trees on Lot 7. Ms. Hanson thought the developer could answer that question as well. Commissioner Peterson asked if there are additional enhancements on the plan since changing to a PUD. Ms. Hanson stated the enhancement is they are trying to save as many trees as possible along with some additional plantings and architectural standards will be higher than other areas. Commissioner Daninger stated in a PUD there is always give and take and he wondered what was in exchange by the developer for a PUD. He would like to hear from the developer in regards to this. Commissioner Nemeth wondered with the minimum lot depth change, 127 feet versus 130 feet, are there any concerns regarding safety or accessibility that came up when reviewed by staff. Ms. Hanson stated they do not have any concerns. LI Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes —August 11, 2014 Page 3 © Commissioner Koehler asked if there is any reason why the setbacks and lot depth are set where they are besides aesthetics. He wondered if there was something the City was concerned about. Ms. Hanson stated there was not. Motion by Daninger, seconded by Koehler, to open the public hearing at 7:20 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. There was an email submitted from Thomas and Susan Chounard, 14123 Prairie Rd NW regarding this item. Mr. Ed Gritton, 14157 Prairie Road NW, stated he had lots of concerns, most are personal. He stated he has been trying to market his property for the last ten to fifteen years without success. He stated his concern is this limits his ability to market his property. The other concerns have to do with their horses and he wondered what kind of problems this will cause to them personally with their livestock. It will create a financial issue for them because they are going to have to put up substantial fencing to secure their animals from the incoming neighborhood bordering their property. There are also other maintenance impacts such as what to do with the manure created. The biggest concern is the inability to market their property because of the way the plan is drawn up. Ms. Tricia Stanaway, 472 140th Lane NW, stated her concern is this is a big cul -de -sac © with a lot of traffic coming out and her driveway will be at the end of the road. She stated there will be a lot of added traffic coming out and she wondered if there will be some additional traffic control at the intersection such as a three way stop sign or something else. She wondered if it would help with fewer houses or if they could not make it a cul -de -sac and bring the road out to Prairie Road, which would help alleviate some traffic coming through. Also on the corner of Ilex and 140th Lane is a bus stop for elementary students and a safety concern for her. Mrs. Sandy Roslin, 486 140th Lane NW, agreed with Ms. Stanaway. She stated there is also a family with three children and one of the children has special needs and they play in the cul -de -sac, which will now be Ilex Street and is a safety concern for her. Mrs. Jean Streeter, 289 141St Avenue NW, stated their land abuts this property and there is a wetland area. They watched all of the trees across the creek being torn out and she wants to make sure the trees are not removed to the boundary on this property. She would like assurance that all the trees will not be removed because it is wildlife devastation. Mrs. Kathy Larson, 14237 Olive Street NW, felt the same way as the other residents. She stated they watched the entire corner be torn down and wildlife was not considered and she hopes the wildlife will be considered in this plan. She thought this will be a lot of houses thrown into a little area and Prairie Road is already a speedway. She wondered why this development is going in when the development on the corner has not even been started. U Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — August 11, 2014 Page 4 Mr. Everett Frederick, 609 142nd Avenue NW, stated it looks like the developers are using all that vacant land for a parking lot for equipment and he wondered what, if anything is going to happen soon. Ms. Hanson indicated she would update Mr. Frederic after the meeting. Mr. Tony Hennen, TH construction, 617 East Main Street, Anoka, was at the meeting to answer questions. Commissioner Daninger wondered what Mr. Hennen felt he was giving to get this PUD. Mr. Hennen indicated this is not a large development so there is not a lot more that can be done. They are going to be doing more tree plantings and also put nicer looking houses in there with the base point of $400,000. Mr. Hennen stated the tree line ends at Lot 7 because the City needs to have adequate drainage areas within the development. He noted he did not want to remove trees but was asked by the City Engineering Department to meet City standards. Commissioner Peterson stated it did not look like on Lot 6 any trees were planted or removed so the tree line might want to be continued from there. Mr. Hennen stated that could be a possibility depending on what the City wants. He did not see a problem with © additional trees. He did not think there would be an issue with the horses because people like to look at them. He stated he would also work with the property owner on fencing. Commissioner Gudmundson wondered how the houses will be different than the ones east of this development. Mr. Hennen stated he would make sure they keep up the architectural standards and will be consistent with homes surrounding this development. Commissioner Gudmundson wondered if Mr. Hennen has talked to the property owner to the north about purchasing the parcel. Mr. Hennen stated he did talk to the owner's wife and she was not sure if they would want to sell seven feet to him or not. Commissioner Nemeth stated they received an email from Susan Chounard, and she was not aware of a path or bike trail going in and she requested a fence be installed. He wondered if the residents were aware of a proposed trail going in. Mr. Hennen stated since the first sketch plan there was discussion with the Park Commission regarding a trail going in. Commissioner Nemeth wondered what the price point will be for the homes. Mr. Hennen stated it would be from $400,000 and up. Commissioner Nemeth stated he did not have a big issue with the back yard setback but the front setback concerns him and he asked why Mr. Hennen would want the homes © closer to the street. Mr. Hennen stated some of the Councilmembers were concerned Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — August 11, 2014 Page 5 © with the smaller backyards so he suggested moving the homes five feet closer to the road to make the backyards larger. Commissioner Nemeth stated the plan is showing two trees sitting on the corners of each lot and he wondered if this was where they were going to be planted. Mr. Hennen stated they would not be planted in the City Right -of -Way, it was just to show trees on the lots. Commissioner Koehler asked if there were any plans to put decks on the homes. Mr. Hennen stated decks may be added to the model homes but he would leave that up to the people purchasing the homes. Mrs. Sandy Roslin stated the only concern of the neighbors is when Shadowbrook first went in the homes were in the $500,000 range and there were not many homes built so the price range went down. The sign out on Prairie Road stated homes will be starting at $300,000 and not $400,000. Their concern is that the houses will not sell at $400,000 and the developer will start to lower the house base to get people to purchase. She wondered how they could make the developer not lower the home values if they do not sell. Mr. Ed Gritton stated when the developer approached his wife for the additional seven feet of land and they approached their lender to see if they could sell or give the © developer that property, the lender told them they could not do that. He stated with regard to the fencing, it will have to be something that will prevent toys and children from going into their property with the horses. Commissioner Daninger asked staff if the street width could be reduced. Mr. Carlberg stated they did not have any discussion about reducing the street width and there would also be an issue with the transition coming up Ilex Street. Commissioner Daninger asked if the shape of the cul -de -sac was due to the existing home there. Mr. Carlberg stated the location of where it stops is. The design of the bulb is for better lot design and the lots meeting the minimum lot requirements. Commissioner Daninger stated he wanted to make sure at the next meeting the ghost plat to the north is addressed. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the ghost plat adjoining this development. Chair Holthus asked when the traffic control plans would be discussed. Mr. Carlberg reviewed with the Commission traffic control changes for the area. Motion by Gudmundson, Seconded by Nemeth, to continue the public hearing until the August 26, 2014 Planning Commissioner Meeting. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. CJ Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — August 11, 2014 Page 6 © OTHER BUSINESS. Community Development Director Carlberg updated the Planning Commission on related items. City Planner Hanson updated the Commission on what will be discussed at the August 26, 2014 meeting. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Peterson, seconded by Nemeth, to adjourn the meeting at 8:04 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. Respectfully Submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.