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Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting Agenda
December 10, 2013
Andover City Hall
Council Chambers
7.00 P.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes — November 12, 2013 Work Session and November 12,
2013 Regular Meeting
3. Public Hearing: Consider a Conditional Use Permit for Therapeutic Massage
Establishment as a Home Occupation -13847 Raven Street NW as requested by
Kristine Schonthaler.
• 4. Public Hearing: Consider a Preliminary Plat known as Bent Creek Shores — Six
(6) lot Single Family Urban Residential Development —13563 Crooked Lake
Blvd NW as requested by Boulder Contracting LLC.
5. Public Hearing: Consider Amendment to the City Code 14 -1 Flood Control
Regulations.
6. Other Business
7. Adjournment
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONMEETING —DECEMBER 10, 2013
The Regular Bi- Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Commissioner Holthus on December 10, 2013, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Commissioners Timothy Cleven, Lynae Gudmundson,
Valerie Holthus, Bert Koehler IV, Kyle Nemeth and Steve
Peterson (arrived at 7:05 p.m.).
Commissioners absent: Dean Daninger
Also present: Community Development Director Dave Carlberg
City Planner Stephanie Hanson
Associate City Planner Brett Angell
Others
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
November 12, 2013 Worksession Meeting
There were no changes.
Motion by Gudmundson, seconded by Nemeth, to approve the minutes as presented.
Motion carried on a 4 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- present ( Cleven), 2- absent (Daninger, Peterson)
vote.
Commissioner Peterson arrived at 7:05 p.m.
November 12, 2013 Regular Meeting
Commissioner Nemeth indicated that throughout the minutes the spelling of "collocation"
is not correct, it should be co- location. He also noted on page three, first paragraph it
should state "antennas." Also on page three, ninth paragraph "Miss Hill stated they will
be installed in the first quarter 2014." One page 4, between the fifth and sixth paragraph
it does not note that Mrs. Hill stepped forward to answer additional questions.
Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes — December 10, 2013
Page 2
• Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Koehler, to approve the minutes with the noted
corrections. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- present ( Cleven), 1- absent (Daninger)
vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: Conditional Use Permit for Therapeutic Massage Establishment
as a Home Occupation —13847 Raven Street NW.
Associate City Planner Brett Angell noted Kristine Maravelas is seeking a CUP for an in-
home therapeutic massage establishment. Therapeutic massage is permitted as a
conditional use in the R4 Single Family -Urban zoned district as a Home Occupation.
The 0.26 acre parcel is located north of Bunker Lake Blvd NW. The proposed massage
area will be located in a room in the basement and will require no physical changes to the
interior or exterior. There will be no outdoor space used.
Mr. Angell reviewed the proposed conditional use permit application with the
Commission.
Motion by Kohler, seconded by Nemeth, to open the public hearing at 7:12 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Commissioner Kohler asked if there will be only one client at a time or will there be
multiple clients at once.
Ms. Kristine Maravelas, 13847 Raven Street, stated there will be one client at a time.
Commissioner Koehler wondered if parking will be in the street or will there be room in
the driveway. Ms. Maravelas indicated there will be room in the driveway to park.
Commissioner Nemeth asked in regard to the hours, the staff reports shows the hours of
8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. but in the paperwork it shows as 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. and he
wondered which is correct. Ms. Maravelas stated she will be done by 9:00 p.m.
Commissioner Nemeth stated his hesitancy with 9:00 p.m. is with people leaving and
disturbing neighbors. Ms. Maravelas stated 9:00 p.m. will be the latest time people will
be leaving.
Commissioner Cleven wondered how many clients will be seen. Ms. Maravelas stated
right now her clients are around 20 people and it is all word of mouth so she anticipates 2
days a week but could be more over time.
Commissioner Gudmundson wondered if there was any response from neighbors. Staff
indicated there was not.
. Commissioner Peterson wondered if there was anticipation of having more staff. Ms.
Maravelas stated it would just be herself.
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Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes — December 10, 2013
Page 3
Motion by Gudmundson, seconded by Cleven, to close the public hearing at 7:23 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Acting Chairperson Holthus stated the City currently has active massage businesses and
she wondered how many there were. Mr. Carlberg indicated there were very few but of
the home occupation massage businesses they do have; there have not been any issues.
He noted in condition number five of the resolution it indicates "special" use and should
be "conditional" use.
Commissioner Peterson wondered if there will be any signage for the business on the
property. Mr. Angell stated that there would not be.
Motion by Kohler, seconded by Gudmundson, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the Conditional Use Permit with the change to condition #5 changing the
word from "special' to "conditional."
Commissioner Nemeth wanted to comment on the end time of 9:00 p.m. because he
thought there could be neighbor disturbances so wondered if the time should be changed
to 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Kohler stated because this is a business and only one person
would be leaving the home at a time, he did not feel this would be a big disturbance to the
• neighbors. Commissioner Peterson agreed and felt most of the business would be in the
evening and in order for the applicant to grow her business she may need additional time
for her clients.
Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 1 -nays (Nemeth), 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Community Development Director Carlberg stated that this item would be before the
Council at the December 17, 2013 City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: Consider a Preliminary Plat known as Bent Creek Shores —Six
(6) lot Single Family Urban Residential Development —13563 Crooked Lake Blvd NW.
City Planner Hanson noted the purpose of this item is to hold a public hearing and take
input on a Preliminary Plat for Bent Creek Shores. The proposed preliminary plat
contains 6 urban residential single family lots as proposed by Boulder Contracting, LLC.
City Planner Hanson reviewed the proposed preliminary plat with the Commission.
Commissioner Koehler asked about the status of the house on the property. Ms. Hanson
stated it has been removed.
• Commissioner Peterson asked on Lot 4 he wondered where the location of the driveway
would be because of the road (13 5 h Lane NW) across the street from the development.
Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes —December 10, 2013
Page 4
• He did not know if it would be placed across from the road entrance or not and thought
staff might want to look at this.
Commissioner Cleven stated on Item 15, the seasonal high water has not been addressed.
Ms. Hanson stated the engineers and Coon Creek Watershed District will review this for
issues.
Commissioner Peterson asked if there were any special provisions that the developer has
to abide by during construction with the creek being there. Ms. Hanson stated there are
things the developer will have to abide by and NPDES requirements that will need to be
met.
Ms. Hanson noted the lots are really deep so the creek will not be affected at all.
Commissioner Nemeth stated regarding the tree preservation, these are recommendations
but he did not see them in the motion and wondered if they should be added. Ms. Hanson
stated those recommendations were comments and do not need to be added to the motion.
Acting Chairperson Holthus asked if the Andover Review Committee approved this plat.
Ms. Hanson stated this is discussed as a group and then goes out to the departments for
review and the only ones with comments were the engineering department and they will
• be the ones making sure the issues are addressed.
Motion by Gudmundson, seconded by Nemeth, to open the public hearing at 7:32 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Mr. Gary Rowley, 2815 135`x' Circle NW, asked if the lots were going all the way to the
creek. Ms. Hanson stated that was correct. Mr. Rowley asked what kind of homes will
be built in the development. He stated he was glad this was being developed.
Mr. Jim Cormear, Boulder Contracting, 2322 171 ' Lane NE, Ham Lake, stated homes
will typically be three bedroom, two baths or larger with basements. These will be
custom built homes and it will be up to the client on what they want built.
Commissioner Peterson stated on lot one, he noticed it appears to be wider than the
others. Mr. Cormear stated there are maintenance easements and sewer stubs already in
that the lots need to meet up with.
Commissioner Peterson asked if the lot sizes could be made more uniform. Mr. Cormear
stated because of the easement there would not be much more land that could be added to
each lot to make them more uniform.
Commissioner Peterson asked what the price point would be. Mr. Cormear thought the
• homes would be $275,000 to $350,000.
Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes — December 10, 2013
Page 5
• Commissioner Gudmundson asked if there would be any covenants or an association in
this development. Mr. Cormear stated at this point there would not be any.
Commissioner Peterson stated Lot 4 is across the street from a "T" intersection and he
wondered if the developer had any preference on where to place the driveway. Mr.
Cormear stated it would depend on the elevations and the type of elevations for the type
of home that would be built, but typically they would not want the driveway located
directly across from the intersection.
Commissioner Nemeth asked regarding the trees, would the developer try to save some of
the mature trees on the property. Mr. Cormear stated they will look at saving mature
trees but it all depends on the drainage and utility easements and how the homes will sit
on the property. He noted the trees next to the creek will remain to create a buffer.
Motion by Koehler, seconded by Nemeth, to close the public hearing at 7:42 p.m.
Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Commissioner Koehler asked if there were any anticipated changes to traffic patterns.
Mr. Carlberg indicated there were none.
Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Peterson, to recommend to the City Council approval of
• the Preliminary Plat for 6 urban lots. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent
(Daninger) vote.
City Planner Hanson stated that this item would be before the Council at the January 7,
2013 City Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: Consider Amendment to the City Code 14, Flood Control
Associate City Planner Angell noted the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources has
requested that Andover and surrounding cities update their ordinances on flood control
based upon the 3'd Generation Watershed Plan. As a member community of the Lower
Rum River Watershed Management Organization, adoption of the recommended changes
would bring Andover into conformance to Minnesota Rules, Chapter 6120.5000.
Commissioner Nemeth asked if the reason this was before them was to make sure this
conformed to the State rules. Mr. Angell indicated that was correct.
Commissioner Nemeth asked if the definitions that were added were from the rule itself
or did City staff create them. Mr. Angell stated the definitions were given to the City by
the DNR.
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Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes — December 10, 2013
Page 6
• Commissioner Gudmundson asked what the ramifications would be if they did not do
this. Mr. Angell stated he was not sure. Mr. Carlberg stated staff was ok with the
changes and did not want to find out what would happen if they were not followed.
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Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Gudmundson, to open the public hearing at 7:46.
Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
There was no public input.
Motion by Peterson, seconded by Nemeth, to close the public hearing at 7:47. Motion
carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Commissioner Cleven asked if there is anything in this regarding Atlas 14. Mr. Carlberg
stated there is not but the City is required to follow Atlas 14.
Motion by Nemeth, seconded by Koehler, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the Amendment to the City Code 14, Flood Control. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays,
1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Associate City Planner Angell stated that this item would be before the Council at the
December 17, 2013 City Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Community Development Director Carlberg introduced Associate Planner Brett Angell
and summarized his background.
Community Development Director Carlberg updated the Planning Commission on related
items:
• Cell Tower CUP permits were approved by the City Council
• 18 Lot Sketch Plan on Prairie Road was discussed by the City Council and the
Council thought this should be a planned unit development rather than variances on
the lots within the development.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Koehler, seconded by Nemeth, to adjourn the meeting at 7:52 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Daninger) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
• Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary, TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.