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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSeptember 10, 2013M S 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755 -5100 FAX (763) 755 -8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda September 10, 2013 Andover City Hall Council Chambers 7.00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Approval of Minutes — August 13, 2013 Regular Meeting 3. PUBLIC HEARING: Sketch Plan — 43 acres north of 161" Avenue NW and Wintergreen St NW for a 68 — lot urban residential development known as Country Oaks North — Scott Wold. 4. Review Program Modification and Tax Increment Financing Plan for Development District No. 1 and Tax Increment Financing District No. 1 -6 for compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan. 5. Other Business 6. Adjournment k C I T Y 0 F 0 NDOVEA_, E x PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING — SEPTEMBER 10, 2013 The Regular Bi- Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on September 10, 2013, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Commissioners absent: Also present: APPROVAL OF MINUTES. August 13, 2013 Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Timothy Cleven, Lynae Gudmundson, Valerie Holthus, Kyle Nemeth and Steve Peterson. Commissioner Bert Koehler IV Community Development Director Dave Carlberg City Planner Stephanie Hanson Assistant Public Works Director Todd Haas Others Motion by Holthus, seconded by Cleven, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- present (Peterson), 1- absent (Koehler) vote. PUBLICHEARING. Sketch Plan — 43 Acres North of 161St Avenue NW and Wintergreen St NW for a 65 —Lot Urban Residential Development Known as Country Oaks North — Scott Wold City Planner Hanson noted the purpose of this item is to hold a public hearing and take input on a sketch plan for 43 acres north of 1615 Avenue NW and Wintergreen Street NW for a 68 lot urban residential development known as Country Oaks North. Assistant Public Works Director Haas reviewed the proposed sketch plan regarding the future transportation needs with the Commission. Ms. Hanson noted the Park and Recreation Commission reviewed this sketch plan and would like to take cash in lieu of land. Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 2 law] Motion by Holthus, seconded by Peterson, to open the public hearing at 7:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Koehler) vote. Ms. Elizabeth Forg, 16527 Sycamore Street NW, stated the development is on the other side of the street and railroad tracks from her. She wondered why this development is happening. She did not have any desire for this parcel to be built out with small lots and moved to Andover for the spacious area. Ms. Forg stated they have never been informed that there was talk about rezoning this area and since she has moved in the area, it has lost the wildlife that used to be in the area. She would prefer some of this area to be left wild. They do not need another development in this area. Environmentally this new development will raise the fire risk in the area because they are on a pine plantation. Ms. Forg stated with additional traffic it will require an additional railroad crossing and in turn will back up traffic even more than it is now. She stated Constance Boulevard is a very busy road without bike lanes or trails and she has seen many close calls and accidents in that intersection. This will eventually require a road from 166x' or between her home and the farm next to her. Ms. Forg noted her property has a well and if more housing is put in the area she is afraid that her well not perform like it does now and she could end up with water that is not clear. She believed properties with high value are more important than multiple properties. She stated Andover does not have any center and right now the rural area in the City is the soul of the City. If this development is put in the soul will be lost. Ms. Donna Aasness, 16425 Hanson Boulevard NW, stated currently she understood the development does not have adequate water main support within the forty acres and would have to go through neighboring properties to satisfy that need. She wondered if that was correct. Mr. Carlberg stated there is the ability to provide this development with water service; however, to go farther north and to adequately provide fire protection the City is looking to loop a water main coming from the White Pine Wilderness area through the Aasness property, which would provide the ability to serve the next property to the north adequately. He noted this area can develop with the current water services. Mr. Jeff Simms, 16526 Sycamore Street, stated the reason he bought the land is for the rural area. There is a hunting designation north of 161St and he wondered what that would mean once the development goes in because he did not think they would want hunting to continue. He also wondered what will happen to the trees and will they be able to preserve most of the trees. H Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 3 © Mr. Carlberg stated the hunting area within this development will have to change and in the sketch plan they do not review the plan for tree protection but further down the road they will look for tree preservation in the plans through the platting process. Mr. Richard Kuiken, 16541 Hanson Boulevard, stated his concern is they hunt that property and ride on their race track on his property. He wondered if there is a noise ordinance because the lots of the new development will back up to his track and if there is a noise ordinance he may not be able to ride on his track. He stated he will not be happy if hunting is removed and if the City shuts down his race track. Mr. Carlberg stated the City does have noise regulations and it is based on decibels. He reviewed the regulations with the Commission and residents. Mr. Richard Kulke, 16683 Sycamore Street, stated a road is supposed to go through at 167th but the road cannot go in because there is a property owned by someone else unless the City purchases it. If the road is open over the railroad tracks that will bring a lot of traffic through their neighborhood and they do not need that with kids. He would like to know where the future cul -de -sacs will end up going to. Mr. Haas reviewed the transportation corridor in the proposed sketch plan. © Ms. Karen Murray, 16527 Sycamore Street NW, stated her first concern has to do with the character of Andover. She stated Andover is at the edge of the suburbs and has rural characteristics. By removing the rural areas, Andover is becoming just another suburb. She stated she did not want that much noise by her house either because that is why she moved out to Andover. She asked what it will take to stop this development from changing to R -4. Chairperson Daninger stated the first step is to come to the meetings and voice opinions. Mr. Mike Bambino, 16480 Wintergreen Street, wondered when this area changed from Rural Residential to R -4. Mr. Carlberg stated this was slated as Rural Residential but in the past year, they have found some additional sewer capacity in the system which will provide for another 155 units in the area. It is still Rural Residential and the City has some steps to go through before it would get changed to R -4. Mr. Bambino asked if there was a sketch plan for rural development. Mr. Carlberg thought there might have been to begin with but the developer has brought the current sketch plan forward for the City to review. Chairperson Daninger reviewed the process this sketch plan will go through in the City process. Mr. Bambino asked if the homes will be built north of the pipeline. Mr. Carlberg indicated that the building pad locations have yet to be determined but no building can be Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 4 © built on the easement. A building can be placed up to the easement and some building pads /lots could be eliminated once reviewed. Mr. Matt Sanders, 16395 Wintergreen, asked what if they cannot sell the land next to the race track and it is rezoned for multi -story condos. This will drive even more traffic down the roads and he has a special needs child along with another one in the neighborhood. How will they deal with the added traffic in the area. Ms. Hanson stated the R -4 zoning does not allow multi - family; it is all single family and R -4 is considered low density residential according to the Metropolitan Council. Mr. Sanders asked if there would ever be a way to rezone the land to allow for multi - families. Mr. Carlberg stated if this area is brought into the urban service area, it would be designated urban residential and the land use would be single - family, which is consistent with what is already there. Mr. Sanders wondered if in the future the capacity for water could change again. Mr. Carlberg stated there is always the possibility for that in the future with increased equipment efficiency but he did not think it would occur in the next twenty years. Ms. Lisa Ripken, 16410 Wintergreen Street, stated she has a lot of concerns. From a © strategic standpoint, she knows the City has a Comprehensive Plan, there is a plan for development and zoning, and a plan on how Andover should be built out. She stated from a common sense standpoint, she does not think this plan looks very good because what she is not hearing are the timelines for the roads. She thought with the new developments there will be a lot of vehicles going down Wintergreen Street before new roads are created. She did not think the residents felt they had a voice when it comes to rezoning and density. She would like to see how the City is going to deal with traffic on Wintergreen Street, environmental issues, and green space. Ms. Elizabeth Forg stated this process feels very backwards to them. She thought the Planning Commission should indicate to the developer that the area is not zoned for what the developer wants so the project cannot go through. She wondered who has more rights, the developer or the property owners. She thought the Board should not vote for this because the land is not zoned for this type of project. Chairperson Daninger noted being on the Commission, they do not have any interest in money; they are looking at the sketch plan. He stated the Commission is listening to the residents. Ms. Aasness stated she was able to attend a meeting this spring where Met Council was present and they were giving a geological one -on -one on the land in Anoka County indicating the issue of run off and the aquifer in Anoka County. She wondered if the j study has been completed. Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 5 © Mr. Carlberg stated there are two issues in Ms. Aasness' comments, one is rain and storm water run -off and those regulations are getting more restrictive as time goes on. The other issue is the sanitary sewer and use of the residents, which is different than treating storm water. Ms. Ripken asked if there is a timeframe for construction of the roads. Mr. Haas stated there is no timeline and it is up to the City Council but he thought the City will wait for the other properties to develop around this proposed development. Mr. Bambino asked what the likelihood is of getting a crossing at the railroad tracks. Mr. Haas stated the City did take right -of -way for a crossing but he did not think there would be a crossing because of other crossings in the area. He stated this decision will ultimately be up to the City Council. Motion by Gudmundson, seconded by Cleven, to close the public hearing at 8:08 p.m. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Koehler) vote. Chairperson Daninger stated an applicant does not need to come forward with the sketch plan. They could have come forward with a development plat for approval. Chairperson Daninger noted, for the record, that the City received a letter from Pete ® Steiger, 16473 Wintergreen Street that will be a part of public record and forwarded to the City Council. Commissioner Holthus asked how a street becomes a State Aid Street. Mr. Haas stated collector streets are based on development and they do look at traffic. He explained to the Commission how the roads are categorized. Commissioner Holthus asked what the procedure was to change the land use on property. Ms. Hanson stated this will go forward to the City Council and based on the decision, staff will start the Comprehensive Plan Amendment process. Commissioner Holthus stated the access point is not required for development to proceed. She asked if a sign would be erected indicating temporary cul -de -sac. Mr. Haas stated that was correct. Commissioner Holthus wondered if the road is adequate for the Fire Department or would a second access need to be installed and if so, where would it go into. Mr. Haas stated this could be over written by the City Council until another development is done. Commissioner Holthus wondered what the liability would be if the City Council overruled the Fire Department. Mr. Carlberg indicated they have liabilities throughout the City currently because of long cul -de -sacs. H Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 6 © Commissioner Gudmundson asked if the lots up and down Sycamore are two and a half acre lots. Mr. Haas stated they were. Commissioner Gudmundson asked if the two forty - acre properties are still privately owned. Mr. Carlberg indicated the City is working with the owner, Mr. Selmer, as open space but Mr. Selmer has not signed the purchase agreement yet. Once the property is acquired by the City, the City will need to do a roadway easement before it is purchased as open space in order to bring a road through. Commissioner Peterson asked if the future MSA road could be run along the north side of the property and if the City could have the developer pay for it. Mr. Haas stated it could. Commissioner Peterson asked on the sewer capacity, if additional development occurs downstream, would that lower the capacity and number of parcels that could be developed at this capacity. Mr. Carlberg stated the capacity has been figured into the total for the land that has not been developed in the lower part of the City. Commissioner Peterson wondered where they were at with the number of City lots and where they want to be. Mr. Carlberg stated at this point there are less than 80 urban lots available. Commissioner Cleven stated his understanding is that this is a preliminary plat and the lot sizes could change on future plans. Mr. Carlberg indicated this is a sketch plan so the © lots could change in size and location in future plans. Chairperson Daninger stated the density is still Rural Residential and there is no talk about townhomes. He also noted there will be a temporary cul -de -sac. He wondered if there is a service road for the railroad tracks. Mr. Haas thought there might be an access road for the pipeline. Chairperson Daninger wondered if a fire truck needed to get into the development by another route beside the main road, could they get through. Mr. Carlberg used the map to point out the limited access through property to the north. Chairperson Daninger asked how many properties have R -4 zoning north of 167th Avenue. Mr. Carlberg did not think there were any, this would be the first. Chairperson Daninger thought staff should look at the road layout to see if there is a better layout for roads. Commissioner Holthus agreed with Commissioner Peterson regarding the 167th going west and taking advantage of the open space area. Commissioner Peterson stated it may be hard to sell lots along the railroad tracks so he would suggest a berm or tree lines to shield the area. He stated in comparing the lot sizes © in Country Oaks to this plan, a lot are comparable except around the cul -de -sac area, which are considerably lower. He thought they could remove the cul -de -sac, lose some Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 7 © lots, and increase the parcel size to make it more consistent with the rest of the development. Chairperson Daninger stated he would like to see another sketch plan, for comparison, with 2.5 acres per lot. He thought this development looks out of place with the other developments. He thought maybe the cul -de -sac should be removed and the lots reworked. Commissioner Nemeth concurred with Commissioner Peterson that the cul -de -sac in the middle does not fit. He also did not know what the long -range plan was to add an additional road so he felt that additional planning needed to happen for an additional access point. He agreed that there will be a lot of traffic going through Wintergreen Street. City Planner Hanson stated that this item would be before the Council at the September 17, 2013 City Council meeting. REVIEW PROGRAM MODIFICATIONAND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NO. I AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT NO 1 -6 FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S Q COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. Community Development Director Carlberg noted the purpose of this item is to review the Program Modification and Tax Increment Financing Plan for Development District No. 1 and Tax Increment Financing District No. 1 -6 for compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Carlberg reviewed the information with the Commission. Commissioner Nemeth stated on the site it was noted there was a landfill and environmental issues, which have been taken care of so the land can be built on and the City will not be liable for anything. Mr. Carlberg stated the only issue with this is that the land is close to the landfill. It is the restrictions of the landfill, not that the land is contaminated. Commissioner Gudmundson asked for clarification on the TIF. Mr. Carlberg reviewed what a TIF District is. Commissioner Gudmundson asked if the City will end up getting the full price for the property over time. Mr. Carlberg indicated they will likely not generate that much because the taxes based on the improvement will not get them to that level. But, the City in turn will tell the new business they need to create six more jobs over two to three years in addition to the hundred they are bringing into the community. The jobs will be at a minimum wage dictated by the City. H Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 8 Commissioner Gudmundson wondered if this could hurt the City because the City would be losing money. Mr. Carlberg asked what is better, not receiving taxes for eight or nine years or having a parcel that will never develop. Commissioner Gudmundson wondered if the School or anyone else will lose money because of this. Mr. Carlberg stated they will not see their portion for nine years but there would not be a building on the site without assistance. He noted everyone understands that at some time, they will get a portion of the taxes. Commissioner Holthus asked what happens if Measurement Specialties goes out of business. Mr. Carlberg stated there are provisions within the TIF agreement that says they have to build a building of a certain size and a certain value and during the life of that district if they were to walk away, there would be provisions that the business would have to pay back the assistance. Commissioner Holthus asked with the development of this TIF District will they have to pay park dedication and trail fees. Mr. Carlberg stated they have not gotten to the site plan portion of this yet but they will have to do a commercial worksheet and look at dedication fees and other fees. © Commissioner Holthus asked if they are modifying the 1986 TIF plan. Mr. Carlberg stated they are doing modifications to that plan and the new TIF plan references that. Mr. Carlberg noted the City will be creating a TIF District for the eight acres, which is a modification to the original plan. Commissioner Holthus thought the TIF plan coincides with their Comprehensive Plan so she would recommend they approve this. Commissioner Peterson wondered if this is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and if they look at the housing/jobs mismatch in Andover, this is consistent with trying to bring more high paying jobs to the City that are not necessarily retail or weekend jobs. He thought the cost sharing for parking for the ball fields is a good idea and as far as the transportation improvements at Jay Street and Hanson Boulevard, he wondered if Wal- Mart was doing improvements to the corner because of additional traffic. Mr. Carlberg stated the City did a traffic study when the area developed and with Wal -Mart, they are not exceeding that study but Wal -Mart agreed to put in a right turn lane. Commissioner Peterson asked if the increment on this property goes to pay for any other transportation improvements to better access the park or the facility itself. Mr. Carlberg stated it would not. Their only access will come out at 1391h because of the way the road is constructed. He stated this project does not generate any additional traffic © improvements out of the site. Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes — September 10, 2013 Page 9 Chairperson Daninger asked how many jobs will be created. Mr. Carlberg stated one hundred new jobs will come with the facility and then five to six additional jobs carrying over from their current place of business. Motion by Holthus, seconded by Nemeth, to approve Resolution RXX -13, finding the proposed modifications to be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Koehler) vote. OTHER BUSINESS. Community Development Director Carlberg updated the Planning Commission on related items. Commissioner Peterson stated the Nightingale reconstruct project is almost done and he has received a lot of great feedback on the road. He wanted to thank Mr. Haas and Mr. Berkowitz for a great job. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Holthus, seconded by Nemeth, to adjourn the meeting at 9:08 p.m. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Koehler) vote. Respectfully Submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary Timesaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. S