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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 3, 2013C I T Y O F © N 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755 -5100 FAX (763) 755 -8923 • WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting January 3, 2013 7:00 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Resident Forum 3. Approval of Minutes (12/20/12) 4. Consider Application for Scheduled Use of Recreational Facilities /Constance Free Church 5. Consider 2013 Tournament Applications for Softball /Baseball 6. Consider 2013 Tournament Applications for Soccer /Lacrosse 7. Outstanding Items 8. © 9. Chair's Report 10. Adjournment 7:15 P.M. Or Shortly Thereafter Workshop Session A. Discuss Master Plan of Sports Complex with Consultant/12 -31, Cont. B. Discuss Survey Results for Park Improvements /Green Acres Park, Cont. C. Discuss Survey Results for Park Improvements /Northwoods East Park, Cont. D. Discuss Skate Board Facility /08 -08 /Commission Van Vark E. Adjournment u I ANLb 6 V 9^ PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING —JANUARY 3, 2013 MINUTES The Regular Bi- Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chair Butler on January 3, 2013 at 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Vice Chair Jim Lindahl, Tony Kowalewski, Alisa Lewnau, Andrew Melberg, Mark Miskowiec and Shaun Van Vark Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas Others RESIDENT FORUM There were no comments at this time. Motion by Commissioner Kowalewski, seconded by Commissioner Miskowiec, to close the resident forum. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent, 0- present vote. APPROVAL OFMINUTES Commissioner Lindahl noted a change on the motion on page 2 at the bottom, striking the word "not" from the motion. The motion should read: Motion by Commissioner Lindahl, seconded by Commissioner Miskowiec, to recommend the City Council to remove the gravel parking lot at Pleasant Oaks Park. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. Motion by Commissioner Lewnau, seconded by Commissioner Van Vark, to approve the December 20, 2012 Park Commission minutes as amended. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent, 0- present vote. CONSIDER APPLICATION FOR SCHED VIED USE OF RECREATIONAL FA CILITIESICONSTANCE FREE CHURCH Mr. Haas reviewed this item is in regard to considering approval of the Application for Scheduled Use of Recreational Facilities for use of the hockey rink as requested by Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes — January 3, 2013 Page 2 Constance Free Church. The day that has been requested is Wednesday, February 20, 2013 from 6:30 — 9:00 pm at Prairie Knoll Park. Mr. Haas noted since the rink is not open on Wednesdays, the church will need to check out the necessary keys. A key deposit will be required for the warming house portion of the building and for the rink lights. Since this is a one -day request, the Commission may want to consider waiving the requirements that are to be submitted as part of the Guidelines to use the facility. Mr. Haas provided a copy of the proposed revised 2012 -2013 hockey rink schedule. The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to approve the Application for Scheduled Use of Recreational Facilities for use of the hockey rink at Prairie Knoll Park as requested by Constance Free Church. Commissioner Miskowiec asked if the lights were on a timer or would they need to be turned off and Mr. Haas stated they are not and would need to be turned off. Motion by Commissioner Lindahl, seconded by Commissioner Kowalewski, to approve the Application for Scheduled Use of Recreational Facilities for use of the hockey rink at Prairie Knoll Park as requested by Constance Free Church as presented waiving the requirements that are to be submitted as part of the guidelines to use the facility. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. CONSIDER 2013 TOURNAMENTAPPLICATIONS FOR SOFTBALLIBASEBALL Mr. Haas reviewed this item is regarding consideration of the softballibaseball tournament application forms for the upcoming 2013 softball/baseball season as requested by the Andover Athletic Association and Andover Baseball Association. Mr. Haas stated the earliest the applications can be submitted is December 15, for the following summer. The City has received applications from the Andover Athletic Association and Andover Baseball Association for tournaments for the upcoming season. The list of tournament requested is as follows: Note — the ABA tournaments are shown in bold type. April 27- 28 /AAA/Girls Slow Pitch Preseason Tournament/Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park. June 7- 9 /ABA/9U -12U In -House Midseason Tournament/Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park, City Hall Park Complex — Field #7, ASN Ball Fields (east field only) June 15- 16 /ABA/USSSA State Tournament 10AA and 11AA Mid Summer Classic /Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park June 22- 23 /ABA/14 & 15 Rec Mid - Season Tournament /ASN Ball Fields (west and middle fields only. June 28- 30 /AAA/Girls Slow Pitch End of Season Toumament/Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park. July 12- 14 /ABA/8U, IOU, & 12U End of Season Tournament and Jamboree /Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park, ASN Ball Fields (east field only), Hidden Creek North Park. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes —January 3, 2013 Page 3 July 12- 14 /ABA/15AA Gopher State Tournament of Champions /ASN Ball Fields (west and middle fields only). July 19- 21 /ABA/6 -7U, 9U, and 11U End of Season Tournament and Jamboree /Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park. July 19- 21 /ABA/14AAA Gopher State Tournament of Champions /ASN Ball Fields (west and middle fields only) July 24 /ABA/Skills Night and All -Star Games /Fields 1 -6 at Sunshine Park. August 2- 4 /ABA/MYAS State Rec. Championship 14 & 15 year olds /ASN Ball Fields (west and middle fields only). August 9- 11 /ABA/14U -15U GSBI, All -Star Weekend/ASN Ball Fields (west and middle fields only) The tournament schedule is subject to Andover Baseball Association submitting the required damage deposit fee of $250. The Andover Athletic Association (AAA) tournament schedule approval is subject to schedule submitting the required damage deposit fee of $250 and finding an individual to sign on as Tournament Director #2. Mr. Haas stated the Park & Recreation Commission is requested to consider approving the tournament applications forms from the Andover Baseball Association and the Andover Athletic Association subject to Andover Baseball Association submitting the required damage deposit fee of $250 and AAA finding an individual to sign on as Tournament Director #2. Chair Butler asked if the association was informed of an earlier cancellation requirement and Mr. Haas stated it was reworded on the applications. Commissioner Kowalewski asked if the tournament director would be responsible for keeping the fields maintained during the tournament and Mr. Has stated they are. Motion by Commissioner Kowalewski, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to approve the tournament applications forms from the Andover Baseball Association and the Andover Athletic Association subject to Andover Baseball Association submitting the required damage deposit fee of $250 and AAA finding an individual to sign on as Tournament Director #2. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. CONSIDER 2013 TO URNAMENTAPPLICATIONS FOR SOCCER/LACROSSE Mr. Haas stated this item is regarding consideration of the soccer /lacrosse application forms for the upcoming 2013 soccer /lacrosse tournaments, multi -day and jamboree season as requested by the North Metro Soccer Association. The earliest the associations can submit applications is December 15th for the following summer. The City has received three applications from North Metro Soccer Association (NMSA) for the upcoming season. The City did not receive any applications from the Andover Area Lacrosse Association. The following is a list of the applications received and the dates that have been requested for a tournament /multi -day event /jamboree: x Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes —January 3, 2013 Page 4 April 20/NMSA/NMSA Scrimmages /Fields 2 -3 at Sunshine Park, Hawkridge Park (west, middle, and east fields) June 24- 28/NMSA/NMSA Coerver Camp Soccer /Fields 3 -4 at Sunshine Park July 15- 19/NMSA/NMSA Challenge Soccer Camp /Fields 3 -4 at Sunshine Park The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to consider approving the soccer /lacrosse application forms for the upcoming 2013 soccer /lacrosse tournament, multi -day, and jamboree season as requested by North Metro Soccer Association. Commissioner Miskowiec asked what the earliest the fields are open and Mr. Haas stated around the last two weeks of April when the frost is out of the ground. Motion by Commissioner Lindahl, seconded by Commissioner Lewnau, to approve the soccer /lacrosse application forms for the upcoming 2013 soccer /lacrosse tournament, multi -day, and jamboree season as requested by North Metro Soccer Association. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS Mr. Haas reviewed the outstanding items providing updates on Completed Projects, On- Going Projects, Task Force Updates and Other Items of Interest. CHAIR'S REPORT Commissioner Kowalewski warned residents the trails can be slippery at times and care should be taken. ADJOURNMENT OF REGULAR MEETING Motion by Commissioner Van Vark, seconded by Commissioner Lewnau, to adjourn the regular meeting at 7:11 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. The Workshop Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chair Butler on January 3, 2013 at 7:15 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Vice Chair Jim Lindahl, Tony Kowalewski, Alisa Lewnau, Andrew Melberg, Mark Miskowiec and Shaun Van Vark Commissioners Absent: None © Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas David Berkowitz, City Engineer Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes — January 3, 2013 Page 5 © Jason Amberg — WSB Associates Others DISCUSS MASTER PLAN OF SPORTS COMPLEX WITH CONSULTANT 112 -31, CONT. Mr. Amberg reviewed the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing the preliminary Master Plan for Sports Complex, Project 12 -31 with WSB. A copy of the preliminary Master Plan that has been prepared by WSB based on the discussion from the last Park Commission meeting of December 20, 2012 was provided for Commission review and comments. Mr. Amberg stated in reviewing the preliminary Master Plan the Commission will notice there is probably not enough parking for the 3 fields if the associations do not spread out the time between games, which has been suggested in the past. If the Commission recommends additional parking stalls to be available for use of all 3 fields at one time with other games to follow immediately, then the preliminary Master Plan would need to be revised to reflect the additional parking stalls. The consequences of this will be more trees would need to come down, more likely on the west half of the complex since the east half will be the game fields. Staff understood from the last Commission meeting and from one resident, the desire to keep as many trees as possible. © Mr. Amberg indicated on the drawing where the reshaping was done adding parking spaces as requested in the last Commission worksession. He stated there are a number of trail loops that go through the park. The trails adjacent to the pond may involve some boardwalks. He reviewed what would be included in the play area. Mr. Amberg stated there would be a small tot lot near the soccer field. Bleachers would be put on the southern and eastern sides of the expanded multi -use Athletic Fields. Mr. Amberg stated north of the soccer field would be a Prairie Grass Demonstration Area. There may be some mining done that will make use of the existing pond and wetland area. Chair Butler asked if the Commission had any comments on the field layout and parking layout. He stated he believes the discussions from the last meeting were indicated in the revised plan. Commissioner Miskowiec stated he is happy with the number of parking spots. Commissioner Melberg stated he has no problems with the plan. Commissioner Lewnau stated her only concern would be the distance from the parking lot to the sledding hill and asked if the path would be plowed. Mr. Haas stated it would be similar to Andover Station North Ball Field Facility (ASN) where plowing is done at the west of the parking lot but not to the sliding hill is done since there is no gravel or paved trail to the sliding hill. At the new sports complex the parking lot closest to the sliding hill would be plowed and most likely trail once the trail has been constructed at some point in the future. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes —January 3, 2013 Page 6 © Commissioner Kowalewski asked if the bleachers on the east side could be moved to the west side to be closer to the tot lot and Mr. Haas stated the bleachers would be portable. Mr. Haas stated there is not going to be enough parking if all three fields were used at the same time. And with Pine Hills Park possibly being used in the fall to play baseball on the weekends, the Pine Hills Park parking lot could not be used as an overflow parking lot. Mr. Haas stated the Commission needs to decide if more parking needs to be added. Chair Butler asked if it is a problem to stagger the start times of the soccer games. Mr. Sean Beggin from North Metro Soccer Association stated they would need to have two games a night and possibly the field starting times could be staggered. Mr. Haas stated generally there hasn't been a problem with soccer but football draws more vehicles for their games. Chair Butler suggested people do not park efficiently if they do not have a marked paved parking lot. Commissioner Lindahl suggested some parking be added at the south end of the park. Mr. Amberg stated he would like to know what the Commission wants for parking per field. Mr. Amberg stated in his experience 35 -40 vehicles per field are needed. Ms. Barb Anderson, North Metro Soccer Association, stated she believes people will make do with the number of parking spots available. © Mr. Berkowitz stated Hawk Ridge has around 193 parking stalls. At times there are 5 games going on at one time and 193 has been sufficient. Chair Butler stated some scheduling adjustments may alleviate some of the parking issues. Mr. Haas stated football has been the worst as to the number of parking stalls needed. Commissioner Lindahl asked if an alternate plan could be done to add an additional 15 parking spots. Commissioner Lewnau stated she feels more parking is needed. Mr. Amberg stated with a reduction of the size of the islands in the parking lots the additional 15 spaces could be obtained. Commissioner Lewnau noted some times vehicles towing trailers are taking up 5 -6 parking spots. Commissioner Miskowiec asked if the center island in the center parking lot is removed, how many spots could be obtained. Mr. Amberg stated probably no spots would be gained there. Chair Butler suggested the Commission take the consultant's recommendation with the parking provided. There is the possibility of using other parks as overflow. Commissioner Lindahl stated the parking lot should not be over - built. © Ms. Barb Anderson asked that no permanent bleachers and goals be used. She stated bleachers are not really needed for soccer as people bring their own chairs. Mr. Amberg Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes —January 3, 2013 Page 7 Qstated if bleachers are there they need to be ADA accessible. Mr. Amberg stated they heard from maintenance that fields could not be moved from north to south but there could be some rotation from east to west. The soccer fields could be moved and resized. Ms. Anderson asked that football goals be portable also. Permanent goal posts could be put on the south field. The consensus of the Commission was they are happy with the layout and the master plan. Chair Butler suggested the Commission discuss some of the amenities to be included in the plan. Commissioner Melberg asked what would be included in Stage 1. Chair Butler stated what would be included is depending on the cost and this is a master plan and when the needs change it can be modified. Chair Butler stated some of the amenities are sand volleyball and there was some discussion as to whether that was needed. Chair Butler stated it may be used if it's close to other amenities it may be used. Commissioner Lewnau asked if a basketball court would be better. Chair Butler asked about a splash pad and suggested one be placed in another park rather than in this park. Commissioner Miskowiec asked about the cost of a splash pad and Mr. Amberg stated between $250,000 - $1,000,000. Mr. Haas in discussing this with the Parks Maintenance Department indicated there was a concern © with higher maintenance. Mr. Amberg stated some of the newer systems are self - monitored and less maintenance. Chair Butler suggested a pavilion with some grills and picnic tables may be better than the splash pond. Mr. Amberg suggested a gazebo. Mr. Haas suggested the Commission look at the gazebo size at Sunshine Park as a possibility for this park. Commissioner Van Vark suggested there be a half basketball court near the sand volleyball to be used by the older siblings attending the games. Mr. Amberg summarized the Commission would like to remove the splash pad, construct a gazebo, and add a games hard surface area near the sand volleyball. Shelly Zenner, resident, asked about safety in the park. Commissioner Lindahl stated the City counts on the neighbors to report any offenses in the parks after hours. Mr. Haas discussed the playground equipment. The structure at Pine Hills is currently adequate there but may need to be upgraded in the future. City staff suggested since this is a regional park a larger structure would be needed. Chair Butler suggested swings and a slide would be a nice addition. Mr. Amberg stated the planned play area is larger and more the size for a regional park. Commissioner Melberg asked about the all inclusive park video that was shown to the Commission. Chair Butler suggested a joint project with the elementary school be researched for the all- inclusive style park. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes —January 3, 2013 Page 8 10 Chair Butler asked for comments on the multi - purpose building and the tot lot. Chair Butler stated the location seems appropriate for both the building and the tot lot. Mr. Amberg stated the multi - purpose building is very centrally located and is highly visible and accessible. Chair Butler commented on the trails and asked if the trail was paved a crosswalk and signage could be added. Chair Butler asked for comments on the wetland demonstration area, the prairie grass demonstration area and the existing pond area. Commissioner Van Vark asked if there were organizations that would take care of the demonstration areas. Mr. Haas stated grant monies are available for areas such as those. Mr. Amberg stated maintenance would like to see the multi - purpose building expanded with a garage for storage. Mr. Amberg stated he would prefer to see storage separate and away from where a lot of people would be walking around. Mr. Berkowitz stated public works thought it would be one less building and less maintenance, however Mr. Berkowitz agrees with Jason and he would prefer a separate building. Commissioner Lindahl asked about frisbee disc golf course in the open area in the northwest of the park. Mr. Amberg asked if there are any baskets at parks in the area. 10 Commissioner Lindahl suggested even three baskets could be used. Mr. Berkowitz asked for the location of the wetland and Mr. Amberg indicated it on the drawing. The plan minimizes the amount of boardwalk and they are staying away from the wetland area with the trail routes. Chair Butler stated a soft surface trail /nature trail would be for the portion of the trail near the existing wetland. Chair Butler suggested soft surface trail be used along the western edge keeping the hard surface near the fields and the building. Mr. Amberg stated some of the areas are steep and soft surface trails may be problematic to maintain. Mr. Berkowitz suggested irrigation be discussed. Mr. Amberg suggested the dashed line around the fields be irrigated and everything within the trail look up to the parking lot areas oversprayed for irrigation. Some irrigation near the concession building with a stub for a future area near the multi - purpose building. Mr. Berkowitz stated this will come before the Council at their January 22nd at the 6pm work session. Mr. Haas stated the updated version will be reviewed at the January 17th Park Commission meeting. An Open House would be held with the residents to go over the plan to announce what would be included in Phase 1. The open house would be held around the first week of February. Mr. Berkowitz stated after the Master Plan is approved the consultant and staff will sit down and crunch the numbers to decide what would be included in Phase 1. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes — January 3, 2013 Page 9 © Shelly Zenner, resident, asked if Phase 1 would include the removal of all the trees. Mr. Amberg stated the new trees would be planted over time. The trees for the fields would be removed for Phase 1. Mr. Berkowitz stated trees in the non - developed Phase 1 area would remain. As many mature trees that can be retained will be retained. Mr. Amberg stated a master plan cost estimate can most likely be done by the January 29`h Council worksession. Mr. Amberg summarized his notes and the changes that were recommended (added parking, gazebo, small games court, no permanent bleachers and goals, 3 basket frisbee golf). Commissioner Van Vark asked if bleachers were needed at all and Mr. Amberg was directed to leave the bleachers off the plan. DISCUSS SUR VEY RESUL TS FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS/GREENACRES PARK, CONT. Mr. Haas reviewed the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing the survey results for park improvements regarding Green Acres Park and review the draft layout of the park that has been prepared by City Staff. The results of the survey were included in the December 20, 2012 packet. Staff provided a layout of the park with the ball field turned and the playground equipment located on the 1" base line © closer to parents who may have other younger aged children not playing ball so they have an opportunity to do something when they are there. Mr. Haas noted the Andover Baseball Association has reviewed the draft layout of the park and has no issues. Backstop and sideline fencing will be necessary to protect the players and spectators. The public information meeting with the neighborhood is scheduled for Thursday, January 17, 2013. Staff will notify the three (3) individuals that were interested in serving on the neighborhood park committee to attend this meeting. Mr. Haas stated the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing the survey results for park improvements regarding Green Acres Park and review the draft layout of the park that has been prepared by staff. Mr. Haas indicated on the drawing where the kids would be standing when playing in the outfield. He stated there is a decline and asked if that would meet the Commission's expectations. Chair Butler stated the four outfielders are placed on the outfield grass for the six or seven year old players. Commissioner Miskowiec asked if the field could be fanned out a little to the west 20 -30 feet tilted more towards Ivywood. Mr. Haas stated the neighborhood kids may end up hitting balls onto Ivywood. Mr. Haas stated room needs to be used for spectators and it would never be used for a tournament. Chair Butler stated the benefit not to tip it too much would be the kids setting on the benches would not be facing directly into the sun. C Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes —January 3, 2013 Page 10 10 Mr. Haas stated there is one mature tree that may need to be removed. Trees would be planted along the third (between ball field fence and the right of way) and first base lines (between the fencing and the playground area). Construction would not begin until the end of July after the baseball association season is over as a fall project. Chair Butler stated one survey came in regarding parking and this plan would improve the parking situation. Where the homeplate would be located in the plan, residents would park along Ivywood and parking should improve from the neighborhoods perspective. Mr. Haas stated there were three residents interested in serving on the park committee and will be invited to the meeting on January 17, 2013. Commissioner Miskowiec suggested the neighbors be included in the discussions relating to parking and the realignment of the park. Mr. Haas stated $8- 10,000 carryover from last year can be transferred to this project if the Park Commission so chooses. Commissioner Miskowiec asked what the project cost would be and Mr. Haas stated estimates need to be obtained for the project and then the Commission would need to decide how it would be financed. City staff would do the construction. There is $45,000 for Green Acres and Northwoods Parks and in addition the $8- 10,000 from last year can be used for these parks. Mr. Haas stated the Andover Baseball © Association is comfortable with the new layout. DISCUSS SURVEY RESULTS FOR PARK IMPRO VEMENTSINORTHWOODS EAST PARK, CONT. Mr. Haas reviewed the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing the survey results for park improvements for Northwoods East Park. The results of the survey were included in the December 20, 2012 meeting packet. Based on the last meeting of December 20, 2012, the Commission would like to have equipment for the age range of 2 -12 to accommodate an older range of siblings, as this field is used for 11 -12 year olds. The public information meeting with the neighborhood is scheduled for Thursday, January 17, 2013. Staff will notify the one individual that was interested in serving on the neighborhood park committee to attend this meeting. Mr. Haas stated the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing the survey results for park improvements regarding Northwoods East Park. Mr. Haas will notify the individual interested in serving on the park committee about the meeting on January 171h DISCUSS SKATE BOARD FACILITY /08 -08 /COMMISSIONER VAN PARK H Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes — January 3, 2013 Page 11 Mr. Haas stated Commissioner Van Vark would like to address the Park and Recreation Commission regarding a concern relating to the existing skate park and possibly some new skate boarding features for the park. Mr. Haas stated staff has been in contact with American Ramp Company regarding some concerns that Commissioner Van Vark has heard from the skate boarders about the steepness of one of the pieces of equipment. A drawing identifying the additional decking that would be necessary to help resolve the concern that has been mentioned by the skate boarders regarding the center set being too steep. The Hubba Ledge and Grind Rail would be necessary if the center set was to be added to resolve the concern. Mr. Haas stated in addition there are a couple other new pieces identified on the plan. Staff has included the cost of the pieces so that if the skate boarders want to do some fundraising, they would have an idea of how much they would need to raise to buy one or more of the pieces of equipment. Mr. Haas stated articles for the next newsletter are due the end of January. Commissioner Van Vark stated the fix for the existing equipment is $8,801.84. The ramp would be made less steep. The fix would be to lengthen the ramp. It is not unsafe currently but would be more user - friendly with the fix. Commissioner Van Vark stated during the grand opening some Councilmembers suggested there be smaller equipment for beginner skateboarders. Commissioner Van Vark suggested there be smaller ramps added and the parents of those smaller children would be asked if smaller equipment was desired. Commissioner Van Vark stated the smaller equipment is also used by the older children. Commissioner Miskowiec asked if this would change the insurance binder for the City and Mr. Haas stated it would be covered with no changes. ADJOURNMENT OF WORKSHOP MEETING Motion by Commissioner Lewnau, seconded by Commissioner Miskowiec, to adjourn the workshop meeting at 8:30 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote. Respectfully Submitted, Debbie Wolfe, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. D tl