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CITY of ANDOVER
Special Park and Recreation Commission Meeting
October 30, 1991
1. Call to Order
2. Residents Forum
3. Approval of Minutes (October 10 & 24, 1991)
4. Kelsey-Round Lake Park dedication
5. Hills of Bunker Lake West Park Pond
6. The Meadows of Round Lake Sketch Plan, cont.
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8. Chairman's Report
9. Adjournment
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ANDOVER PARK COMMISSION
REQUEST FOR PARK RECOMMENDATlON
ITEM
DATE October 30. 1991
ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT
4. Kelsey-Round Lake
Park Dedication
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BY: Todd J. Haas
The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss
the Park Dedication requirements for the overall plat known
as Andover West. The original preliminary plat (date June 4,
1980) gross land area is 360.4 acres of which 36.07 acres was
originally proposed as park dedication which is 10% as
required in Ordinance 10, Section 9.07.
Kelsey Estates Final Plat has been presented to the City
Council at their meeting of October 15, 1991. In reviewing
the final plat, the developer did not include a parcel
(indicated as exception on the plat) as park. The Andover
West preliminary plat indicates this as future park.
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On February 5, 1991 City Council meeting, a motion was made
that the City Council agree or accept the proposal from the
owner New Generation Homes to dedicate Lot 1, Block 7 of the
preliminary plat of Andover West for park purposes. On
February 12, 1991 Mr. Bachman restated his understanding of
the park dedication/platting of the property (see attached
letter).
It is Staff's interpretation that if Lot 1, Block 7 as
indicated in the letter is for park dedication, then the land
dedicated would be given credit to future park dedication
requirements. The developer of Kelsey Estates is requesting
releasing the exception lot as park dedication and allow the
developer to develop a parcel so that the property owner can
construct a home.
To date, the City and Mr. Bachman do not have an agreement
for the 4 lots at Co. Rd. 20 and Xenia Street NW which would
allow the developer to plat but would not require
construction of streets or grading of lots.
In addition, Staff has included the resolution approving the
preliminary plat of Andover West.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 5, 1991
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~ INDIAN MEADOWS DISCUSSION/5-YEAR PLAN/PARK BOARD
Mr. Haas explained the Park Board's proposal for the development of
Kelsey Park to Include access from CoRd 20 and a parkIng lot at the
north end of the park. They have been working wIth the developer of
the property Involved to get the parking lot before the land Is
developed. Wayne Bachman, New Generation Homes, has made a proposal
to dedicate Lot 1, Block 7 on the prelimInary plat of Andover West for
the parkIng lot, to dedIcate 8.1 acres whIch would exceed the
dedIcation requirement for the balance of their property, and to pay
up to $20,000 for the grading and installation of Xenia Street for
access to the parking lot.
Mr. Haas stated the Staff recommendation is to allow Mr. Bachman to
plat and dedicate the right of way and all the land up front without
developing the property. The City would allow him to plat, but no
building permits would be issued until Xenia Street is constructed to
City standards.
Wayne Bachman - stated they agree to do that provided they would
obtain plat approval then so they know what they can do on their
property. They would be proposing some changes to Andover West
from what was originally approved and asking that the plat be
finalized prior to the construction of Xenia. They would construct
the road when they develop the four lots surroundIng It.
Park and Recreation Commission Chairperson Jeff Kieffer told the
CouncIl the proposal provides the access they desIre off CoRd 20.
They would prefer the area with the pond to be dedicated, but they
understand that would landlock some property for the developer. They
would like the City to acquire the pond area if possible.
Council agreed to the proposal, noting the Development Agreement would
spell out the conditions regarding Xenia Street.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that we accept the proposal
of the owner of New Generation Homes regardIng what is known as Indian
Meadows V In the proposal to open up XenIa Street and dedicate Lot 1,
Block 7 of that prelimInary to the City for park purposes; and
authorize the City Attorney to work out the proper legal documentation
to satisfactorIly make that transfer, and authorIze the Mayor to
execute the documents. MotIon carried unanImously.
STREET LIGHT REQUEST/142ND LANE AND ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD
Mr. Haas reviewed the request of four property owners to Install a
street lIght at 14267 Round Lake Boulevard wIth each petItIoner payIng
1/4 of the monthly costs for the light. He also outlIned the optIons
avaIlable to the CouncIl.
REISLlNG PARIi
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Mr. Todd Haas
City of Ar:dover
Andover, MN 55304
CITY OF ANDOVER
Re: India~ Meadows IV & V and Park Land Dedication
:)ear 'Hr. Ha.09.s.
After meeting with the Park Board and City Council, I t~o~ght it would
be appropriate to restate my understanding of where we are concerning
park dedication/platting of our property in Andover. In order to assist
the park board in meeting its concerns regarding access fro~ County Rd
20 to Kelsey Park, as part of the approval of the plats for Indian
Meadows 17 and V, New Generation Properties would agree to the
follm\fing:
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Dedication of the approxi~ate area described as Lot 1 Block 7
on the p,-eliminary plat of Andover West; this area to be usee
te provide a parking area ior acce3S to ~he park. Ihe area
consists of approximately 3 acres.
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(2) Dedication of all of the 8.1 acres outlined in green or. the
concept drawing and adjacent to the areas dedicated as part
of the previous plats. In exchange the City Council would
agree that the excess acreage above that required for India~
Meadows IV and V would be credited to future park dedication
requirements in the event New Generation Properties, or a
successor owner of the property, underta~e platting cf t~e
balar.ce of the property. The acreage to be dedic&ted exceeds
tJ.o ';u..cre.n~ dcdica.::"o:1 :::"cqui::emen't fer t:~e balance of '~~Lr
property.
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(3) New Generation Properties wou:d dedicate, as part of a final
plat for Indian MeadowslY, that portion of Xenia Street from
County 20 to the new parking area. The final plat would be
filed wichout construction of the streets or escrows or
letters of credit for cO~3truction o~ the i~provement3. New
Generation Properties w01lld enter an agreement with the City
to be recorded against each let stati~g that no building
per~its could be drawn on any of the four lots until the
street construction was completed or sufficient escrows to
insure completion were provided. At the time we decided to
develop the four lots, we would construct the street to normal
residential standards at our own cost. The south end of Xenia
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February 12, 1991
Mr. Todd Haas
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Street to be
for future
meantime, it
blade in and
requirements
constructed 3 feet below current grade to allow
grading of the balance of the site. In the
is our understanding that the park board would
gravel the dedicated roadway to meet the access
for Kelsey Park.
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In addition to the above, I would like to use this opportunity to look
at an additional alternative. It is clear from the Park Board meeting
that the Park Board is interested in acquiring the pond and surrounding
land shown in green on the attached diagram. This property serves as a
great amenity for our development. Howe'/.::r, in the ct;.rrently proposed
2 1/2 acre lot size plat, whether the parcel's ownership is in private
or public hands is less important. The ownership of the property
clearly becomes important if the balance of the property is not
platted prior to the effective date for any new rules the city is
considering concerning a 10 acre minimum lot size. Our ownership of
the pond property would mean one more lot could be included in the plat.
In view of the Park Board undertaking a study for the improvement of
Kelsey Park, the Park Board's interest in the pond as an amenity for the
park and the City's decision to proceed with final platting process for
the four lots on Xenia Street without requiring street construction to
be completed before platting, New Generation is willing to propose the
dedication of the pond property at this time if a final plat can be
approved for the balance of our property. We would need an agree~ent
similar to the one discussed in regard to Indian Meadows:V. Such an
agreement would provide that the development of the lots would be
delayed and that the road elevations could be lowered to permit renoval
of excess fill from the property. The City would immediately gain the
additional park area sought by the Park Board and the Park Board's
consultant could include the pond in the current Park plan. New
Generation Properties wou~d gain the security regarding the platting
process necessary to give up title to the land. This would have the
furth~L ben~f~t of completing the dev~lopffient of ou~ Andover p=cpc=~y
with lots of a size and character consistent with the plats surrounding
it.
I hope the above meets with the approval of the City Council so that we
can both work together to meet our objectives.
Sincerely,
NEW GENERATION PROPERTIES, INC.
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Wayne A. Bachman
_ \ Vice President
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CITY OF ANDOVER
COUNTY OF ANOKA
STATE OF MINNESOTA
NO. R 70-80
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ANDOVER WEST. PRESENTED BY
ANDOVER ~ROPERTIES FOR PROGRAMMED LANDS, INC.
WHEREAS. pursuant to notice published thereof._ the Planning and Zoning
Commission conducted a public hearing on April 28. 1980. on the Preliminary Plat
of Andover West; and
WHEREAS. as a result of such hearing and review. the Planning and
Zoning Commission is recommending approval of the Plat; and
WHEREAS. the Planning and Zoning Commission cites as reasons for such
recommendation as being l)the plat has received approval from the County Highway
Department. 2)the engineering firm of TKDA has reviewed the Plat and is recommending
approval. 3)the plat is subject to meeting road standards of the City of Andover,
4)a public hearing was held and no opposition was met to the intent of the Plat.
5)required variances are approved. 6)a letter has been received from United Power
Association with no objections, 7)a letter has been received from Northern
Natural Gas Co. with no objections. 8)the Park Board has reviewed the Plat and
has made a recommendation to the City Council regarding Parkland. and 9)the Plat
is consistent with the Comprehensive Development Plan and meets the basic intent
and application of its ordinances; and that all lots front on interior streets
and do not front on County Road No.7. and also do not front on stub streets; and
WHEREAS. the City Council did review the Plat on the 2Clh day of May. 1980
and do to an error in the calculation for park dedication it was referred back
to the Park & Recreation Commission and the Planning and Zoning Commission as
requested by the Developer; and
WHEREAS. both Commissions did again review the Plat and address the
requirements of Ordinance No. 10 and Ordinance No. 100; and
WHEREAS. another recommendation for approval wa5 submitted by the
Planning and Zoning Commission with additional reasons for such action being
l)parklands equal to 10% of the total Plat have been included. 2)Lot 13 and
Lot 14 of Block 7 have been set aside for potential parkland if it is found
the historic clay pits may be located on these lots. 3)a 15' walkway to
LakeRidge Park is being dedicated along the east side of Lot 1. Block 7,
4)Blackfoot Street will be dedicated to a full 66' width. and 5)an additional
variance for 152nd Circle is required; and
WHEREAS. the City Council is in agreement with those reasons stated
by the Planning and Zoning Commission; and
- WHEREAS, the City Council acknowledges the property owners to the
south of the Plat objections to the locations of the most southerly streets; and
WHEREAS. the City Council cannot obligate a developer to construct
streets so as to provide additional frontage for the development of adjoining
properties; and
WHEREAS the City Council is allowed by ordinance to require a developer
to provide for the extension of existing streets which has been done in the
Andover West Plat.
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of
Andover to hereby approve the Prel iminary Plat of Andover West as submitted under
the date of June 4, 1980.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Andover to hereby
approve the following exceptions within the Plat with such exceptions required due
to topography of the land:
a. Lot 9, Block 7 - Lot Size (Ordinance No. 1D, Section 9.06)
b. Inca Circle and 152nd Circle NW - Cul de Sac Length (Ordinance No. 10.
Section 9.03g)
c. 153rd Avenue Northwest between Highway No. 7 and Fox Street,
152nd Avenue Northwest between Highway No. 7 and Fox Street,
153rd Avenue Northwest between Eldorado Street and 155th Avenue Northwest,
154th Avenue Northwest between Eldorado Street and 155th Avenue Northwest,
Hopi Street between Eldorado Street and 155th Avenue Northwest,
Blackfoot Street between Eldorado Street and 155th Avenue Northwest _
Block Length (Ordinance No. 10, Section 9.05a)
BE IT STILL FURTHER RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Andover
to hereby accept parkland as shown on the Plat, dated June 4th, 1980; with the
understanding that should it be found the historic clay pits are located on
Lots 13 and/or Lot 14 of Block 7, such lot(s) would be substituted for potential
parkland.
J BE IT STILL FURTHER RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Andover
to hereby require the dedication of a 30' walkway/utility/roadway/drainage
easement in place of the 15' easement shown on the Plat dated June 4th, 1980;
with such easement to go to LakeRidge park.
BE IT STILL FURTHER RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Andover
to hereby make such approval contingent on the requirement that Guarani Street
and Blackfoot Street be shown with appropriate turnarounds; and that lots be
shaded to indicate if the 39,000 square foot requirement of Ordinance No. 10C
i s me t.
Adopted by the City Council of the City of Andover this 17th
June , 1980, by unanimous vote.
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CITY OF ANDOVER
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Jj(ry ; dschltl - Mayor
Patricla K. Lindquist - Clty Clerk
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ANDOVER PARK COMMISSION
REQUEST FOR PARK RECOMlfIJENDATION
ITEM
DATE October 30. 199
ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT
5. Hills of Bunker Lake
West Park Pond
Engineering
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Todd J. Haas
The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to
reconsider the dredging in the Hills of Bunker Lake West
Park as requested by Tony Emmerich, developer of the
property.
The park has been developed to plan except for the skating
rink area (see park plan).
By dredging the pond, this will to some extent create
additional ponding for the development and the pond would be
constructed at no additional cost to the City.
The pond should be dredged in a reasonable time frame and
seeding, mulching and/or erosion control is required. The
pond should be constructed with a six to eight foot depth
(to help to eliminate underwater vegetation from choking the
pond) .
Park and Recreation Meeting Minutes
January 7, 1988
Page 2
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Chairman McMullen queried whether the courts could be better located
somewhere else. Commissioner Sabel concurred with staff that the present
location is satisfactory. Surrounding residents reportedly do not want
it relocated.
Project financing was discussed. While there reportedly is no money
currently budgeted for this project, Commissioner Kinkade suggested placing
it in next year's budget. Mr. stone suggested cutting back on other projects
and just finishing what has been started. Chairman McMullen felt that per-
haps $1,000 of undedicated money could be taken from the dedication fund.
(Commissioner strootman arrived at 8:13 p.m.)
Motion was made by Commissioner Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner
Kieffer, to authorize staff to go for soil borings, to be evaluated, and
respond back to the Park Board at the first meeting in June, recommending
further procedures.
Commissioner Kinkade felt that surrounding residents should be informed.
Mr. Haas agreed to send out letters informing them' of the issue and invit-
ing them to the second meeting in June. Chairman McMullen suggested there
be an article placed in the newsletter regarding the Northwoods Tennis
Court issue.
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Upon voice vote on the motion, all voted yes. Motion carried.
~ HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE POND !
Chairman McMullen reviewed the proposed Hills of Bunker project,
relative to the Park Board. He reported that following the city council's
approval at their last meeting, the project developers discussed the pos-
sibility of trading the grading and seeding for doing ponding, estimated
at $1.50 to $2.00 per foot, totalling an estimated $11,000. Chairman McMullen
had invited the developers to the next Park Board meeting for further discussion.
Mr. Stone felt that the pond would be a benefit to the developers. Com-
missioner Kieffer asked what would happen to the top soil removed in the
excavation. Mr. Haas suggested that staff contact Burt Kraabel for his
opinion on the estimated $11,000 for grading and seeding. Chairman McMullen
felt the city would want to keep the dirt, but Mr. Haas didn't feel there
would be any excess after working the park. Staff noted that the ponding
issue was not part of the previous motion regarding this project. Further,
the softball field and sheltered area is part of the grading and seeding
of. the park.
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Commissioner Kinkade stated that he feels the park Board would want the
original agreement, as stated in the motion. He added that the developers
should grade and seed the area of the ball field and perimeter, make the
pond, and the city takes the dirt. Chairman McMullen explained that the
pond will only go as far as the park property. Mr. Haas stated that the
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Park and Recreation Meeting Hinutes
January 7, 1988
Page 3
original agreement included the grading and seeding plus the $11,000. They
now want to use some of the money to put in the pond.
Commissioners Kinkade, Kieffer, and Strootman concurred that the city
should receive the $11,000. If the developers want to put in a pond, they
should do so at their own expense. Mr. Haas agreed that the grading and
seeding is needed rather than the pond.
Motion was made by Commissioner Kinkade, seconded by Commissioner
Anderson, that the agreement regarding the Hills of Bunker Lake stands
as is, and if the developer wants to create a pond we will allow it, at
no cost to the city, and we get the dirt, which will stay in the park for
the grading of the rest of the park property.
Chairman McMullen reviewed what he considered the original agreement
to be, stating that the developers fulfilled their obligation with the park
land and $11,000. They merely agreed to do the grading and seeding above
and beyond the agreement in order to get it done this year.
staff was directed to provide the developer with a layout of the park.
Commissioner Strootman concurred that the city needs the money to develop
the park.
Upon voice vote on the motion all voted yes. Motion carried.
SOFTBALL SCHEDULING
Chairman McMullen reiterated that the Park Board will still be accept-
ing applications in January for softball scheduling. A final decision will
be made the first meeting in March.
Commissioner Kinkade suggested, and the Commission concurred"that the
city/Park Board, attempt to maintain better communications with the Andover
Athletic Association.
REPORT FROM PUBLIC WORKS
Nothing.
REPORT FROM THE PARK CHAIRMAN
Chairman McMullen reported rece1v1ng a call from Richard Seeling,
representing the st. Francis Hockey Association, requesting hockey time:
Mondays 5:30-9:00 p.m., Wednesdays 5:30-6:30 p.m., and Saturday 9:00 a.m.-
Noon.
Following discussion, a motion was made by Commissioner Sabel, seconded
by Commissioner Strootman, to accept Mr. Seeling's requested times: Monday
5:30-9:00 p.m., Wednesday 5:30-6:30 p.m., and Saturday 9:00-Noon. However,
on Saturday, there is no attendant, therefore, no warming house. Also on
Saturdays, if the rink is not shoveled, it is up to them to shovel it.
All voted yes. Motion carried.
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ANDOVER PARK COMMISSION
REQUEST FOR PARK RECOMMENDATION
DATlPctohpr ~O 1 qq1
ITEM
ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT
6. The Meadows of Round
Lake Sketch Plan, cont.
Engineering
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Todd J. Haas
The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss
the park dedication requirements for The Meadows of Round
Lake.
The minutes from the October 17, 1991 meeting are enclosed in
this packet. A copy of the Sketch Plan was in your
October 17, 1991 packet.
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